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Funding for this project was suspended by Kickstarter on June 26, 2014.

Powered by our patent pending technologies, iFind is the world's first Bluetooth item locator that requires no battery.

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    1. Creator Francesco 4 days ago

      Guys, if you are interesting in tracking, you should like this one as well
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1635076988/home-for-a-safe-and-comfortable-home-no-wearables

    2. Creator Warren Coakley on December 13

      Sorry for invading the space here,but i cam across this.
      Thought i would give this a mention,nice piece of kit and they are doing a referral scheme too so you can get it for FREE. No complaints there.

      https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/flexcharger-r-evolutionizing-the-way-you-charge/x/3844491

    3. Creator Warren Coakley on November 11

      FlexCharger. Its coming,are you ready? Join the Google+ Community to keep up to date on Flexcharger.

      https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116195828972612412799/116195828972612412799/about

    4. Creator Marcel M. on October 31

      @James Hua: what refunds do you mean? The money never left your pocket...

    5. Creator James Hua on October 31

      Creators have the ability to refund backers through Amazon Payments....but WeTag not! they are cheating! :(

    6. Creator Zach Marshall on October 14

      Oh god seriously "how about my money" & "what about my money"? oh god how do we explain this one to you?

      Sure! that Dapper Sasquatch with the blue vest on the ridge has taken your doubloons!!! and if you're quick you can catch him!! If you believe that your will also believe kickstarter and amazon took your money before ending this project. You would have recived an email stating payment has been made aaaand you would see it in your amazon payments account.

      Also if they did take your money (highly unlikely) use the kick starter "contact us" section instead of chasing Sasquatches.

      Wonder if the mods can lock comment threads on here...

    7. Creator Parisri on October 14

      How about my money ?

    8. Creator Francesco on October 10

      I agree. It is done for this project. Considering how much they raise, any creator (just like myself) would go mad to see it gone. So the fact they never comments here, it means it was a scam.

    9. Creator DrTune on October 8

      I don't think any crown-funding sites will touch this product with a bargepole. Fortunately, it's "coming soon" (still) as reposted endlessly (along with link-bait and cat pictures) on their FB page. But no, no actual pictures or anything remotely credible. Yawn.

    10. Creator Genki Sakoda on October 1

      Is there any possibility of this project restarting?

    11. Creator Derek Schmell on September 15

      So we will never receive the product?

    12. Creator Marcel M. on September 9

      @Cynthia: Your money never left your wallet as the Kickstarter campaign was suspended.

      What money do you mean otherwise?

    13. Creator Cynthia Lasley on September 5

      So what happened to my money?

    14. Creator Pablo on August 13, 2014

      @Warren I'm curious, how is isensor a scam?

    15. Creator Warren Coakley on August 10, 2014

      Another scam in the form of isensor going on but Kickstarter again won't listen. Trying to use the platform as a pre ordering sales tool to gather and the product is already been made

    16. Creator Rob W. on July 24, 2014

      This comment has been removed by Kickstarter.

    17. Creator Matthew rust on July 22, 2014

      What is going to happen now with the product? It won't let me view any previous messages

    18. Creator Fan Kwok Kei on July 21, 2014

      Thumbs up for KS! Project like this harm those with honest intentions!

    19. Creator Len on July 19, 2014

      @Jeffrey
      Not sure what you are saying. The WeTag directors are shown on this incorporation form http://goo.gl/CSen0j

    20. Creator Jeffrey Price on July 19, 2014

      Typical scamming method is to register a company to make you look legitimate. Using Texas, you don't have to disclose any names until well after the fact. I suspect the company will not renew or disclose.

      "Dear Mr. Price:

      We received your request regarding WeTag, Inc. Your request has been assigned ID # 10523131426 by this agency.

      According to the records of this office, WeTag, Inc., taxpayer number 3-20524-7819-8, has until November 15, 2014, to file its first annual Texas Franchise Tax Report and Texas Franchise Tax Public Information Report with this office, therefore no officer or director information is available at this office."

    21. Creator Rob W. on July 14, 2014

      This comment has been removed by Kickstarter.

    22. Creator huwawawawa on July 14, 2014

      This comment has been removed by Kickstarter.

    23. Creator Brandon Zylstra on July 12, 2014

      @DrTune: Awesome! Thanks. I had given up hope of this being real and was going to pull out, but forgot to. (I should have done it much sooner, but my early bird status made me irrationally resistant to doing so until I was completely convinced it couldn't be real.) Just the other day I realized my mistake, and now came to the project page to find it wonderfully suspended.

      I'm glad you spent the time you did, and apparently pushed KS over the edge. If you're ever in Grand Rapids (Michigan) I'll gladly buy you a beer.

    24. Creator Len on July 12, 2014

      @DrTune

      Congratulations on the thanks from KS. Well deserved.

      In your honor, I have developed this truly battery-free locator device. Available in 12 attractive colors with NO patent pending. Always in "rope" mode and should last at least 3 decades. Details are shown here http://goo.gl/dNwpp4 ;-)

    25. Creator DrTune on July 12, 2014

      I just filled in the regular KS complaints form like a number of other people on here. I compiled that google doc (from many sources around the web) which has had about 6000 hits. the great majority from slashdot; for stats see: http://bit.do/ifs-

      I notified a few news sites, and obviously I posted on here. Skeptically one might think the press coverage is what tipped the balance for KS, but quite possibly KS just followed up on the number of people reporting this project and made their own minds up (after - I hope - sending WeTag a warning email giving them a chance to redeem themselves).
      While it's possible KS looked at the math and agreed "no way is this real" it seems fair to think that KS actually weren't swayed by my ranting, more by WeTag's gratuitous mismanagement of their own campaign, most of all the continued lack of evidence to back up their claims.

      Basically; if anyone else smells a serious rat on a KS project; gather lots of evidence, document everything with ample references, challenge the creators to answer the questions, then take your story to the press & Kickstarter alike. Try to keep your cool also, I regret the tone of a few of my comments on here. :-)

    26. Creator Roma on July 12, 2014

      @DrTune, Well done!
      Out of interest, would you mind telling us how many messages you sent Kickstarter, please? When was the first and when was the last? Just trying to get a feel for how responsive they were.
      Thanks.

    27. Creator DrTune on July 11, 2014

      Just got an email from Kickstarter:
      "This is a message from Kickstarter’s Trust and Safety team. We just wanted to reach out to thank you for so proactively educating us, as well your fellow backers, about the risks of the iFind project. We take the integrity of the Kickstarter system very seriously, and rely on the input of whistleblowers like you to help us maintain the health of our ecosystem. Please keep up the great work, and again, thank you."
      Awww... nice to be appreciated. :-)
      Of course it's practically impossible to conclusively _prove_ this is/was a scam - the onus was on WeTag to prove they were for real and they completely failed at that - but a number of people did the math on their energy-harvesting claims and none of it came anywhere even close to working out. The numbers they did give in their 'technical updates' were absurd. There is still no evidence they've built a prototype - not even a single photo.
      IF, on the incredibly unlikely off-chance that two guys in a garage have rewritten the laws of physics with their (invisible) product, I'm sure we all look forward to them completing and shipping their product this fall (as stated on their Facebook page).
      As long as WeTag are spending their own money (or that of accredited investors, who will want to see rock solid proof of their outlandish claims just as we did) they can keep working on their perpetual motion machine till hell freezes over.

    28. Creator Len on July 11, 2014

      @Davjd Schwartz

      Did you check your spam folder? Or maybe the KS email is in your scam folder?

      Due process is great but there are way too many lawsuits. Much better that KS has rules and takes action against significant violators. WeTag can still demonstrate their product, just not on KS. Apparently, WeTag considers this suspension to be just a minor inconvenience.

    29. Creator David Schwartz on July 11, 2014

      Well I never got any email from KS, I just got this sad notice above. I feel sorry for these people if they have something that works, and if they don't and were just trying to run away with $500K, well shame on them. However, we live in a society of laws and due process and they should have their chance to demonstrate their product.

    30. Creator Rob W. on July 11, 2014

      This comment has been removed by Kickstarter.

    31. Creator Warren Coakley on July 9, 2014

      Chipolos are rubbish go check their comments page,they have all started to break and the creators have done a runner.

    32. Creator Giorgio Di Paolo on July 5, 2014

      Nice chipolo but i ve tried trackr bravo

    33. Creator Cameron (BLINK) on July 5, 2014

      Just buy a chipolo. They work great and only costs me $4 a year to replace the batteries. ($16 really since I have 4 of them. $1 per 3 months).

    34. Creator Curt H. on July 4, 2014

      I had my doubts when ordering the 10 pack for a mere few dollars more than the pledge below it. I'll be trusting my gut feeling much more from now on. Appreciate you wasting everyone's time.

    35. Creator Len on July 4, 2014

      @Tamir
      You really are not paying attention:
      1. You received an email from KS on June 26 explaining why this project was suspended
      2. As described in the comments, WeTag violated many KS guidelines
      3. There is no evidence of a working prototype.
      4. The demonstrated software was fake
      5. The video was made in Chicago. There are no scenes of a workshop in Plano
      6. Significant evidence indicated that this would not be a successful project

    36. Creator Tamir E. on July 4, 2014

      Funny how I just discovered today that this project got suspended. Ive backed a lot of projects on Kickstarter and Ive seen it all. Ive seen those with lots of detailed updates and those with barely any updates at all. They have all been either funded or not funded, but never suspended. I dont understand why there was so much negative PR and people thinking this was a scam. They kept to the Kickstarter guidelines. They showed a working prototype with software AND showed behind the scenes in their workshop in Plano. I want Kickstarter to start giving legitimate reasons and explanations for suspending funding...especially to successful projects such as this one. Its not fair to the backers or the project founders. Im greatly dissapointed that this project was not allowed to be funded.

    37. Creator Schuyler James Hagglund on July 4, 2014

      I LIKE TURTLES!!

    38. Creator Jian H on July 3, 2014

      Christopher Childs found an existing patent "Wearable system for monitoring physiological signals" that describes a RF harvesting scheme very similar to the one used by IFind. It uses both 900MHz and 2.4GHz bands. However, its max transmission power is set to 4W EIRP. And the system works only within the same room....

      http://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2014/06/42995-ifind-supports-kickstarters-decision-ban-crowdfunding-campaign/#comment-1461383675

    39. Creator Kelly Higgins on July 3, 2014

      @Len
      Thanks :)

    40. Creator Len on July 3, 2014

      @Kelly - The KS definition of suspended means permanently, see faqs here: http://goo.gl/BDAgGx , Your pledge for this project was also cancelled permanently.

      An' dagnabbit, them thar WeTag varmints bin run out of Dodge.

    41. Creator Kelly Higgins on July 2, 2014

      I am new to kickstarter. I have no real scientific knowledge, but from what I have gathered, there are serious concerns about the legitimacy of this product and as a result funding has been suspended. I do have a few kickstarter related questions in this case. To me, the word 'suspended' implies that there is a possibility that it could be reinstated. Is there a chance of my pledge being reinstated or would it be more accurate to say that pledging has been 'terminated'? If there is a chance of reinstatement, would I be notified about that and any findings that were made by kickstarter?

    42. Creator Len on July 2, 2014

      @Bruce
      Yer bum's oot the windae! As a former electronic engineer, It seems that ye made up yer mynd arlie oan. Ye wur then sorely insulted by they b@st@rd unbelievers. Noo ye'll fiercely defend yer beliefs 'til th' end o' time, na maiter whit happens. Och, pride...

    43. Creator Bruce Sutherland on July 2, 2014

      Only problem is you really didn't debunk it as you've not seen a design to debunk, tracked down the creator or proved that there was no project. You can't, no one can. It has been all pure speculation (some more educated than others I'll grant you that) the only thing that is true is the bidding on the project and lack of video evidence. Many things in life have been called impossible but sometimes things are shown to be possible. I'll back a pre-order up to $30 (that's like a few pints of beer back here in the UK) just to see where it goes, if it's lost. Ah well.

    44. Creator Richard Redpath (deleted) on July 2, 2014

      SO what is the story why this project is suspended?
      Can anyone state something concisely

    45. Creator DrTune on July 2, 2014

      @Bruce - how would you spending money annoy anyone? Odd comment; you please yourself.
      Yes we put a lot of effort into providing a thorough skeptical view of iFind's claims, some people have said they appreciated that, personally I rather enjoyed debunking them and doing it properly (as ever, corrections welcome). If I/we'd just said "it's a bunch of crap" without providing evidence we'd be no better than iFind.

      Be sure to post a review/teardown here when you receive your preordered devices, and happy summer to you too.

    46. Creator Bruce Sutherland on July 2, 2014

      I'm going to pre-order just for giggles and to annoy you guys, great if they deliver, no biggy if it fails to. It's amazing how much effort and time you guys have gone into this. It's no longer on KS yet you are still here. It's summer time guys!

    47. Creator Sarah on July 2, 2014

      The bit I found troubling about the KS email is that WeTag was basically committing fraud. They would create accounts under different aliases to comment positively and donate to their own campaign. Yeah, that's not shady dealings at all. I'm more convinced this is a scam than ever.

    48. Creator Jian H on July 1, 2014

      In techrepublic article: "...In 2004, he and several other authors were granted a patent for an article locator system that used GPS and, by his account, didn't pan out...". This is not correct, In fact, as I mentioned in one of my comments a while ago (see https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yuansong84/ifind-the-worlds-first-battery-free-item-locating/comments…), That US Patent 6788199 "ARTICLE LOCATOR SYSTEM" does indeed include using RF harvesting for location tag. Its frequency range is from 902 MHz to 928 MHz. Although Paul McArthur is one of its inventors, the patent now belongs to Eureka Technology Partners, LLC, Therefore, it seems that WeTag either legally used the patent or infringed it.

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