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Here's an idea: ship the RCH, then start selling them along with the boards to raise money faster to make seafarers boards.
All these resource cards... nothing to hold them.
I would REALLY like to see an audit of where, when, and how much money from this project (and the other one) has been spent. He gets money and then "unforeseen circumstances" eat it up. Sounds like he's wasting the money on something.
My Credit card got charged but no RCH... guess I have to cancel that charge.
There is a difference between being patient, and having enough of the lies.... Anyone who thinks he's actually going to honor anything is just enabling his entitled behavior - and that's what keeps him from responding, he doesn't feel the need to be held accountable.
@Steve - Update #92, October 26, 2015. He's been claiming for the past year that RCH will be shipping any day now. Words mean nothing. Actions do. Until there are any concrete actions taken, I will believe him just as much as I did a year ago. Holding a man accountable for what he says, and calling him out when he is lying is not whining. We knew what we were getting ourselves into, but he had to as well; especially after telling us lies time and again for a year to pacify us.
When will original backers get their addon RCH's? I pledged for a pari of those over 3.5 years ago.
I too have been waiting from the beginning. I did receive the 3-4 player blue plastic board but am waiting for the 5-6 player and the RCHs. Every single one of us knew the risks of backing a Kickstarter. If you weren't willing to be patient and accept what that risk meant then you shouldn't have been a backer. It's that simple. Whining about it and making baseless threats accomplishes nothing. If you can't at least act like adults here, then do the rest of us a favor and shut up. Your toxicity and negativity is exactly why Bill Trammel no longer reads these comments.
I backed this for 2 boards + RCHs. One for me, and one for a friend. The friend has moved since I backed this. TWICE. Still no RCH.
Okay, so September 25th has come and went, maybe by October 25th we'll get an update.
No, @Josh - it'll be more like:
I really planned on sending the RCH's out this month, but you guys haven't bought enough of my overstocked items, that I over-extended myself beyond actual demand for, and so I can't afford to ship them (loose paraphrase, of course)
Or (most likely) the next update will be a no-details update on the sale of the company, because he won't be allowed to disclose the actual details, for legal reasons, but he knows we'll understand.
Well, only 4 more days until his two month update telling us the RCHs will be sent out starting October 1. He really means it this time guys, he's super serial.
@Josh Nothing you said is wrong. So say that instead of hyperbolic statements like, "It's unlikely he'll ever do a single damn thing he says." Comments like that serve no purpose and only add to the toxicity runs rampant here.
Don't forget, the RCHs have been FINISHED since LAST February. As in 19 months ago! And he supposedly began shipping them LAST July. I've yet to hear of a single person receiving a RCH holder 14 months later! It's simply unbelievable!
@Christopher - We've not been getting updates on this KS though, we've gotten plenty on the other one. I don't care about the bags or dice towers. He's been saying since May that the RCH will be shipped out soon (just wait ten days longer!) but he never follows through with it. Funding shortfalls don't just happen overnight, he had to be aware of the budget when writing the update and thus didn't intend to ship them at that time. Most recently he told us that they would start shipping on August 1st. This obviously hasn't happened, yet we've heard nothing from him.
Yes, this campaign is taking a long time. Yes, this campaign has seen more downs than ups. And yet, we still receive an update every one to two months, usually with pictures ands video. It is clear things are moving forward, albeit, not as fast as many people (myself included) would like. While that can be both discouraging and disappointing, it is clear that progress is being made, and to say otherwise is foolhardy.
My current theory is that he posted those updates to placate the masses and make things look like they are moving along while he negotiated to sell his 'smoothly operating' company.
@david - because instead of honoring his word (which he hasn't done since the original boards went out) he apparently was out trying to sell his company - he doesn't give a single care to any of his backers, his ongoing negligence and lies have demonstrated this time and time, again.
Six weeks later...nothing!
From July 25...
When will you ship Resource Card Holders (RCHs)?
Our previous update stated that backers of the 2012 Kickstarter who already received a standard board, walnut board or aluminum board and who are also owed one or more RCHs and no other rewards would receive a final shipment in June 2016. Unfortunately, unplanned financial constraints made it impossible to fulfill this commitment. We now plan to ship RCHs to affected backers starting August 1, 2016.
@josh - I fell ya.... Personally, I gave up giving any benefit of doubt over a year ago.....
@Michael - It's unlikely he'll ever do a single damn thing he says, but I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Six days (time between last update and August 1) is apparently more than enough time to decide he won't be sending out RCH to anybody, if he ever intended to in the first place.
@josh - it is unlikely that they are being mailed out - not with the sale of the "company"
And depending on who buys it, they may not even fulfill them.... They'd be under no obligation.
A month out, has anybody got the RCH yet?
Has anyone heard who the scam artist is selling the "company" to?
Screenshotting for @Jeff: http://imgur.com/a/AdgKc
Bill, care to weigh in on the future of the KS rewards and what this means for us backers?
Not that Bill does in the first place, but it would be nice to have SOMEBODY that gives a shit...
And will the purchasers of the company give two shits about fulfilling KS rewards.
Now the question in my mind is : Who is he selling the company to ?
Nope, and we may never!
8/16 on Twitter
"In the process of selling previous company, and I want to take a break from startup life. 9 to 5 sounds A-OK right now"
Just curious, has anybody received their RCH since they were supposed to start shipping on 8/1?
It's this and one other that I have waited just as long for that are like 2 of my three Kickstarter experiences. These two experiences are why I don't support Kickstarter projects any longer.
@Kyle I don't even play the game that often anymore. We always play seafarers, so I can with play without that and use my board, or not use the board and play how I want.
At this point, I would rather have the catan bag than the rchs and seafarers board. I don't play the game enough anymore with the expansion.
You all realize he isn't actually going to ship anything... His last update gave him a year to do nothing, and not have to answer to anything.... The RCH's have been "ready to ship" for over a year, already... What makes you think he'd care enough to send them now?
Any news on the RCHs? I look forward to hearing from you! Thanks.
The last update from May 25th stated that they would ship RCH's June 3rd. Just wondering if anyone received a shipping confirmation as I have not and it's been a month. Just curious.
It's been a month. Exactly how often were you planning on these regular updates to be given?
@brad - the problem is he has, effectively, run and hidden.... he posts occasional vague posts, and even throws in a backhanded apology, once in awhile.... but hasn't actually produced a thing in years, just keeps posting pics of things we've already seen... it's nothing but smoke and mirrors, Ponzi scheme at best....
I do hope you have more to sell to make enough to take care of all these orders Bill. Your site is very light on things it is selling. Make some more wooden boards for example, those have been sold out for some time. The base plastic boards are nice, but the market for them is likely quite limited.
Many of you need to grow up a bit. Life happens. All KS campaigns don't wildly succeed. I will be glad to get anything out of this. Legal means would end up meaning you would get pennies on the dollar for what you spent, if you got anything at all. Lawyers are expensive.
He has a tough thing to dig out of, but at least he didn't run away and hide as some do for failed KS campaigns.
So what is the best approach for taking legal action?
Unfortunately, while Kickstarter made it easy to get into this situation. They offer nothing of help for us backers now.
I understood the risk, and know the chances of seeing rewards is low. So, am looking to at least keep the the creator from walking away for free. I would think something like a bankruptcy is in order, and force them to sell their assets and provide at least a percentage in refunds.
So, I'm looking at all the other lies told (aka "updates").... how much money is being wasted on storing the finished/almost finished products? through the updates on the other KS (that I thankfully dodged) there are pics of the same dice towers and collector boxes that are shown in the recent update (but from a year ago).
I run a screen printing shop, I can't imagine having product just stacked up for a year+ taking up room.
Had to contact my credit card company to recover my $40.
I wonder if Bill could sell the rights to hex boards and other designs, and use those proceeds to produce and deliver our merchandise.
I'm calling it, next update in three weeks, telling us how lucky we are that bag production has begun, Seafarers boards have been moved up to January estimated ship time (before the following update telling us they've moved back farther to June), reminder that we can't have our RCH no matter how much we ask, and rounding it out by begging for more money.
I WANT MY MONEY BACK! I've just paid $40 in the mistaken belief that my Seafarers board, a mere three years late, was about to be delivered. Now I find out it's pushed back another year. Hands up who thinks it will show up then? Seriously I do want my hard earned money back, or is this just a con?
Interesting, I have to wait 5 years to get my board while others are buying other things and are able to get them a lot sooner?
Unbelievable. Literally, unbelievable. GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE! YOU ONLY HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR FROM LAST MONTH FOR. YOUR SEAFARERS BOARD AFTER WE PROMISED IT TO YOU THIS SUMMER.
We just have to raise the money to replace YOUR money that we just spent to fulfill past orders. You could REALLY help us get your items to you by selling stuff for us.
This isn't a pyramid scheme at all.
Promises to update more frequently; nothing for two weeks. Keep it classy, Bill.