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BC GamesBy BC Games
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BC GamesBy BC Games
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Funding Canceled
Funding for this project was canceled by the project creator on Jun 2 2018

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    1. BC Games Creator about 10 hours ago

      @Brandon,
      The Cards have been ordered and received on our end. And I checked the list, and you are on it. Troy has been gone for the last month, but is now back ready to sign with Josh. Then they will be shipping out.
      Thanks!

    2. Brandon about 12 hours ago

      Been quite lately... was also wondering about the free gift and when that might be going out? I also signed up but never recieved anything saying i was signed up so hopefully i got it in there... still waiting for the next campaign to start any month now =)

    3. BC Games Creator on

      @Baki I checked our mailing list for the free gift, and I did not see anyone with the name Baki nor Hanma. You need to sign up at the top of the website where we have free gift campaign, and where you input your mailing address. https://www.towersofconquest.com/
      if you have any other issues, feel free to send us a personal email.

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      Baki Hanma
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      on

      It seems that the website took my e-mail, but I never got a follow up. Any way to confirm with you gents?

    5. Patrick SAYET
      Superbacker
      on

      something that has been on my mind for some time : can the name "towers of conquest" be changed? It feels generic, like there's conquest and towers involved (even somewhat not making sense as towers are stationary and will not conquer anything), I see either games with more imaginary names like Too many bones, Fireball island, Edge of darkness, Neon knights, Legendary ; some with a flavour name : Gloom of Kilforth, Settlers of Catan, Xia legends of a drift, Settlers of Catan or even some using composite words : DinoGenics, SaltLands ...
      This is to give a more unique and memorable name to the game.

    6. BC Games Creator on

      Conventions are fun, and a good source to meet new people in person. It is where we met our initial fans, and had our game play tested. We are very happy that we did our local conventions. However, The time it takes and the cost effectiveness to go away is not good. It is a main question we ask ourselves, what is the return on the investment? And that is harder to answer. More the time is the difficult part. I have limited vacation and I have to be careful where I put it towards, especially since I take a portion of it to go with our local boy scout summer camp.

    7. Kehlenschnitt (Miremarsh Stumpy)
      Superbacker
      on

      @Patrick SAYET: Hahahah, ok that makes sense. Seems like you misled us all with your previous comment ;-) But it is good to still see some buzz and backers in this comment section, that try to spread the word about this game. So thank you for your input.

      Although attending a convention might bring in some new backers, I'm not sure if this is financially feasible for them. As far as I'm aware of, BC Games is basically run by two friends with (normal) full-time jobs. A convention costs a lot of money (exhibition booth, travel and hotel, advertising material, flyers, roll-up displays, freebies and even more) and time (which they might lack because of their normal jobs). It might give them some more exposure to a broader audience, but the question is, if an investment like this brings the desired results ?

    8. Patrick SAYET
      Superbacker
      on

      or if a Print and play can be done anyone can show the game in conventions? (maybe there's advertisement authorizations needed for that)

    9. Patrick SAYET
      Superbacker
      on

      @Kelenschnitt : no, the Shadowrun Sprawl Ops guys use conventions to make the game advertised and have people play it so that the word spreads out to have more people back the game ;
      so I thought it would be a good idea if Towers of conquest can go to conventions to show the game and get backers there

    10. Kehlenschnitt (Miremarsh Stumpy)
      Superbacker
      on

      @Patrick SAYET: I also didn't understand your last comment. Do you mean the creators of the "Shadowrun Sprawl Ops" will feature/advertise/talk about "Towers of Conquest" on their own KS campaign page ? *confused*

    11. BC Games Creator on

      Im not sure what Patrick means on how we can market there

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      mike higgs on

      What do we have to do to get this advertised there?

    13. Patrick SAYET
      Superbacker
      on

      I'm backing Shadorun sprawl ops, and they will advertise the project there, so this can be another way make Towers of conquest known and to find backers

    14. Kehlenschnitt (Miremarsh Stumpy)
      Superbacker
      on

      @Patrick SAYET: Yes, we will be informed about the re-launch. They are aiming for a re-launch in fall (no set date so far), they will post an update here, so you will get a notification from KS. You could also subscribe to their mailing list (see the top of the campaign page for this) to also receive a free and signed Tarot sized character card. Really looking forward for the re-launch.

    15. Patrick SAYET
      Superbacker
      on

      we'll get a message from this KS for the relaunch?

    16. Jim on

      God Speed on the next campaign!!

    17. Almar Zwets on

      Same for me, Freddy

    18. Freddy on

      @Ronald - yeah, I too supported a few too many KSs these past few months. I'm going to take it slow for a while. In fact, if I manage to stick to my plan, this relaunch may well be the only one between now and the end of the year.

    19. Ronald L.
      Superbacker
      on

      @freddy And I hope when they relaunch the project I already recovered from some of the projects I backed and the dnd miniatures I bought. Lol!

    20. Freddy on

      A company's very first Kickstarter is never easy, and many companies underestimate the complexities involved. This has been a good learning experience, and I'm sure the relaunched campaign will do a LOT better!

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      zack gardiner
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      on

      Good luck with the relaunch BC games! I love the game and can't wait for it to get the run and attention it and you two deserve!!! I'll definitely be back

    22. BC Games Creator on

      @Nichola Good one, lol

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      Nicholas Cole
      Superbacker
      on

      Lol I managed to post that two minutes before the update.

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      Nicholas Cole
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      on

      BC is cutting it really close with the cancelation. I hope they're not gonna go through with it and rely on late pledges to meet their break even point.

    25. Preston
      Superbacker
      on

      I like the box art as it is too.

    26. Crazy Celt
      Superbacker
      on

      I agree with @Alejandro Duarte, water tiles should be part of the core game if they are going to be included. I understand the areas not being covered are water and I am fine with that, will just put the game on a blue piece of fabric when I play it. I understand very well about NRE costs and recurring costs of manufacturing and the way the SGs are laid out appears to have the spacing of miniatures set to cover the NRE during the period of time the more simple cardboard items are earned, but let's face it, miniatures are supposed to be a key component of this game and the way they are laid out now it would appear we would have to more than double the base funding goal to get 3 miniatures (based on the spread of the first couple SGs with value), Most backers will do the same math and determine that a backer could be looking at about 9 new miniatures for a grand funding level of 4X the original goal (I know everyone in my gaming group did the math and I am the only one that backed since the others did not see the value, but all saw the potential). I want this game to be a successes for both the creators and the backers, and I am looking forward to the relaunch.

    27. Freddy on

      @Alejandro Duarte - well, that's one of the reasons why a relaunch is a good idea... that will hopefully give them enough backers and enough funding to include all those great stretch goals in the box.

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      David Gonsalves on

      @ Flemming Madsen. I love the box art! Definitely would not want them to change that.

    29. Alejandro Duarte on

      @Freddy, I’m sure you’re right. I still think they should be a part of the core game. It’s a gorgeous production, those tiles only add to the appeal.

    30. Freddy on

      @Alejandro Duarte - well, you don't really *need* the water hexes. Any hex that isn't filled in when you connect the boards, is considered water by default. So those hexes are just a quality upgrade to make the board look a bit nicer. And it's fairly normal that such kinds of quanity upgrades are stretch goals (comparable to many campaigns that have stretch goals to upgrade cardboard tokens to plastic).

    31. Alejandro Duarte on

      The water hexes really should be apart of the core game. It’s silly that they’re a stretch goal and that they were so high on the list.

    32. GrimmPendragon on

      @freddy- thank you for the reply. That clears things up. Hopefully this gets more attention during the relaunch, I for one will definitely be back.

    33. Freddy on

      @GrimmPendragon - welcome on board. Have you read update #20?

    34. GrimmPendragon on

      I just came onto this and tried to find my answers through the flood of comments, they really should have a search feature, and it isn't answered in FAQ. Please excuse me if this has been answered. If, this doesn't get cancelled, how long will we have the opportunity to upgrade a $1 pledge to the full game?

    35. Flemming Madsen
      Superbacker
      on

      Suggestion for BC Games - In order to attract more backers there are some marketing thoughts. I think the cover box should not focus on the dragon and the tower and the dark theme in general. This is very cliché and signal that the selling point is only the theme. This is clouding the special good game as I think this is. I think the box cover needs to be a lot more colorfull as the playboard itself is, and showing some resource gathering and some hero fight and towers in background. Signal that there are actually 4x elements in this game. Show on front page that it is all about Explore, Expand, Collect Resources, Build, Upgrade and Fight... :-)

    36. Almar Zwets on

      The miniatures look great! I hope that the relaunch will be good. I would like to paint these.

    37. Freddy on

      @Brian Bari - I guess we just both have an eye for good games ;-)

    38. Freddy on

      @Chris Lockley - very true, but it's not just the add-ons. The current number of backers of the core game itself will also need to rise significantly as well.... the gap between the current 408 backers and the minimum print size of 1000 is just too big!

    39. NecroNuke9
      Superbacker
      on

      This is a great looking game. Unfortunately, I can see that the campaign is doing poorly. This was caused by a slow start which led to poor momentum. I believe that the main cause of this was just bad timing. The campaign started around the same time as "The Black Rose Wars" and "Hellboy". Both campaigns were hugely popular. Backers only have so much money to spend on KS campaigns and are more likely to support the wildly successful campaigns. The currently successful OrcQuest doesn't help the situation. The competition "Towers Of Conquest" faced was just too overwhelming.

      Cancelling and later restarting the campaign will probably be the best option. It would give this campaign the benefit of starting fresh and hopefully gain a stronger momentum the second time around. Backers shouldn't panic over a cancellation and restart. I have been apart of few KS campaigns that originally cancelled and restarted again to end their second try very successfully. An example of this would be the game "Vampire Hunters". They cancelled their first KS campaign even though they achieved their funding goal. They ended their restarted second KS campaign with almost $566,000.

    40. BC Games Creator on

      @Chris The Hordes of Hazor and Obake Clan Expansions with their Tier III miniatures: Akkorokamui and Hazor can be used in game play by anybody, not just by the person playing that faction.
      Lol, I thought i saw that comment when you asked about it. but now I don't. Anyways it was a good question to be answered.

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      Chris Lockley on

      @ Freddy - so, if every backer sees the merit and value in the extra factions and opts for both the Obake and Hordes of Hazor, not only will it make a more compelling reason for the publisher to pursue completing the ks, it would up the $$$ and get to some more sweet SG.

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      Brian Bari
      Superbacker
      on

      Thanks Freddy, Man I see you on almost every campaign I back. Are you a collector or store owner or like me an addicted completionist

    43. Freddy on

      @Brian Bari - in this campaign, they have a minimum print run of 1000 copies. Right now the number of backers is still considerably lower, so they're still losing money. When you combine the remaining stretch goals into optional add-ons, it's even worse... if they have to print 1000 copies of those add-ons, and only 100 people add that particular add-on in PM, then they will be left with 900 copies of an add-on that nobody pays for. That is why very few campaigns do this (and only if they know that the demand for a certain add-on is very large, or if they are able to get a much lower minimum print run size).

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      Brian Bari
      Superbacker
      on

      I wanna see the figure that’s missing top part of his head or at least it looks that way. Very silent hill looking. I would def buy the other figures as an add on or hopefully they get unlocked on the reboot campaign

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      Brian Bari
      Superbacker
      on

      I don’t know if this has been done by any campaign (I’ve never seen it done,yet) but I would love for a campaign to take all the unlocked stretch goals and combine them into an optional upgrade/add on. I know this doesn’t work for SGs that permanently upgrade components it for more figures I can’t believe campaigns don’t do this. Or have contingency based add on for the rest of the models like if at least 300 backers commit to the add on at a certain price then it will be made if not no harm done as they didn’t produce anything

    46. BC Games Creator on

      @alejandro I believe comments cannot be deleted. We certainly haven’t deleted any although lol I wish we could. We will be updating everyone very soon regarding our plans and reasons. The bottom line is that we appreciate everyone’s enthusiasm and we all desire pretty much the same thing. On how to get there well there’s lots of ideas

    47. BC Games Creator on

      @Freddy thanks for all your responses you should be on staff lol that is correct all tier3 characters are faction-less the ghouls belong to hazor and can be resurrected ad infinitum until hazor dies.

    48. Freddy on

      What comment was that? The last one I see from you, is from 7 hours ago... if you wrote another one, maybe you forgot to 'post' it?

    49. Alejandro Duarte on

      Why did my previous comments disappear?

    50. Freddy on

      @Chris Lockley - you're right, figures like Drogo, Lich King, etc in the core game, as well as Akkorokamui and Hazor in the expansions, are factionless and can be purchased by anyone. I believe the same applies to the 2 Ghouls, but I'm not 100% sure on those... I hope @BCG can confirm that.

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