by Tiko 3D
I am requesting again a refund for my non delivered Tiko and the shipping cost you fleeced me for.
You people are worthless losers and I’m happy that I got a Kossel printer instead. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is I’m glad also a Chinese company copied your design =)). Maybe I sound like a jerk but I’m so happy that you will live with what happened for your whole life
There is one thing you can do now to ensure this project lives on beyond this kickstarter.
Release the design and code into the public domain.
This is far far more valuable to me as a backer than any possible remuneration to be gained selling that intellectual property on.
IMHO you should have open sourced the whole project from the start. It's plausible you would have avoided many of the mistakes made by having far more eyeballs, and the code quality would have been much improved.
I have been trying unsuccessfully to update tiko from print.tiko . Is there another way to do it?
Maybe interesting: (Unterstützer means Backer)
Die meisten Unterstützer kommen aus
Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika
Fuck you guys. You stole the shipping money went so far as to tell me (and the other shipment 3) backers that the printers were on a boat, and had the gall to include a fucking map showing its location. Not only did it not arrive, apparently those units were sold directly to people IN CHINA. Fuck the lot of you and your bullshit explanations, you ran out of money, tried to scam us into paying additional money and then failed to produce. Its as simple as that.
I have to say I agree about the shipping. That is total bullshit if you spent our shipping costs otherwise. Further, I'm a little pissed to learn that you had enough Tiko's to attempt to sell them in a retail setting. Why not send those to at least a few more backers. Agreed, share the tech at least with this community, considering your default on the product, you really do owe us the IP. Taking it with you to other ventures would violate the sanctity of the Kickstarter terms.
I find your 'explored all avenues' sentiment on funding daft, in that you never came back to your support base - us, the backers, to explore our appetite for funding you further, even on a 'loan' basis.
At no point have to presented the business case, not even a 'we need $100k' or whatever - you do seem to have burnt through $29 million already however...
Thanks for the closure, guys and gals. What is life but a path of steps. I like my printer. I’m a Physicist and EE. I’ll tinker and play with it.
I ordered 3 of them and received all 3. Could never get them to work right.
I didn't receive my TIKO and you said, project ins down. So you will not deliver my TIKO. I pay for the shipping and without shipping I want my money back immediately. If you use it for something else, it's a fraud and you lie about how you will use it.
I’m not mad. This is a risk that we signed up for.
Release software to open source.
See if you can arrange a source of repair parts
For those who didn’t get a printer, see if a competitor might offer a goodwill discount.
Where/ how do I get software updates? I would like to update it and donate it to a school.
I haven't received Tiko, I haven't received refund for Tiko, I haven't received refund for shipping Tiko.
Do you know the law of Karma?
For fuck sake people. Stop whininng about it. Move on in your lives.
I'm also pissed what happened...so what? Shit happens every day.
我们买了大房子 豪车 取了美女 到处旅游度假 但是我们破产了 所以
We bought a big house, a luxury car, hot girl, alsoTravel around for vacation, but we went bankrupt,
The only fair thing Tiko can do at this point is:
A: Return all shipping costs for products that were never shipped. Taking money with no intend on using it the way it was supposed to be is a horrible thing to do and you should be ashamed of scamming people.
B: Make everything open source. You failed, that's okay. But at least share how and why you failed, give us the what you learned, show us the software etc. Or are you afraid we might find out you did a bad job?
Hi there, I would like to request for a refund please.
There's an idea I just came across yesterday. Failed startups should release their works as open source.
You've likely got CAD designs, software and with a day or two's documentation could note the known problems.
Obviously a lot of the issues were in manufacturing, with some in a lack of finances allowing those problems to be rectified before you ran out of money.
As a backer of Tiko who's desperately wanted you guys to succeed, but knowing you tried something amazing but it didn't quite work, I would feel very happy if my funds weren't returned* but were instead the money was put on open sourcing the learnings.
* Note: I think my funds were already returned, but I'd donate some money to having this released open source.
Can we all get our money back pls?
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I did get a machine - but after the first few days of attempting to get it to print anything worthwhile it has sat gathering dust. I've since moved on to better products. A shame that this goes down as only the second KS I've backed that has failed. I may have a printer but it's so poor as to consider it non-existent.
I hope you all learned a lot if you choose to make any other hardware ventures down the road...
I would like my shipping fee back immediately. Thanks
I don't want to wait any more.
Please give my money back ASAP.
How can you let a product delay for more than 2 years?
You knew the project was failing when you asked for delivery fee. Thats fraud in my eyes.
Eat a dick.
Sad to see the end of TIKO, but good to see an honest hands in the air admission of failure, that's tough to do. Such an update would, on other projects, have garnered a level of respect, however, I still cannot forgive charging for a delivery that you never delivered on. I understand kickstarting is a gamble,so that money lost was my choice, my mistake. Charging me for delivery on the other hand was not my mistake, it was yours and it was fraud.
I hope you address the delivery charge issue that has left this distaste, and return a level of respect to you and your company.
If the company is so worth less open source it. Then the community could help make a product you could sell.
Also can I have my shipping money back pleas
I encourage you to make the TIKO firmware and the test software that you developed under this project available under an open source license. If that is not possible due to legal or intellectual property constraints, then could you at least publish the hardware details (connector pinouts, voltages, sensor information, control signals, etc.) to allow those of us fortunate enough to have received a TIKO to use it for something?
I feel really stolen by this project and because of this I will never believe in a kickstarted project again. Because apart from receiving nothing they made us the illusion of something that never arrived and more they stole my shipment.
I will buy your TIKO :)
I never got any TIKO as compared to the others. Kindly update me as to how I will be refunded my backer money. I would prefer via PayPal using my yahoomail email@example.com or direct to paypal.me/REspinueva.
What Clifford Huffman said. I also received a TIKO but need parts to get it running. Any firmware updates would be appreciated. Making this open source would be awesome.
Such a sad ending to a great project. You all worked hard to bring an idea to life. TIKO was a wonderful idea and I fully backed and still back your moves. Thanks for the constant and transparent updates and communications.
I hope there will be the possibility to purchase remaining parts and pieces for those who did get a unit.
Beat of luck.
I would be interested in parts and the firmware updates or making it open source. I got my TIKO But without a couple parts It is just a paperweight.. Please make parts available. I would be willing to purchase them.
Pretty sad outcome and has been the case with most Kickstarter projects I've backed - either they go broke without delivering anything, or they deliver a reasonable looking product and then go broke and there's no support, or they deliver something that is not nearly what was promised. Even Pebble, one of the few relative success stories, is now gone, having been absorbed by Fitbit and then deconstructed (more of an acquihire than a product acquisition). I think I'm done with Kickstarter now.
Thats surprising you took the tikos you had working and didnt send them to anybody, & you got shipping fees for an un finished product. Yea guys lets go to china and get it massed produced there, its not like the government itself runs the industrial aspect of its country. They do not respect patents at all and will do whatever they can to shut down the main company and produce the knock off product by whatever means neccessary, i am currently going to school for mechatronics and the method of making your printer should be easy and cheap af. Who ever you had over production and or financial are both incompetent. I inderstand when you have a web of people you have to pay it takes alot of money but obviously your web was much more vast then it should have been.
Tiko says: "Together we have learned so much."
So, I have paid Tiko and received a service: A learning experience + shipping fee.
I think I'm obliged to pay VAT on a service too. We don't want to commit a fraud, do we?
What might Tiko think for the value of this learning experience?
Shipping cost I remember, well, and VAT on that is about $10.
Where's my shipping money? You don't get to keep that.
will you be doing some kind of last firmware update or open up the source code to let developpers improve the existing hardware that was shipped?
With the shipping cost money send at least the disassembled pieces you have available!
Con i soldi delle spese di spedizione spedite almeno i pezzi disassemblati che avete a disposizione!
How come such a lengthy excuses email and not even mention about shipping fee?
Which means they are not sincere and still try to deceive us. Tiko, you guys really need to take legal responsibility for fraud.
My friend is an electronics enthusiast and quite good with 3D printers and has offered to help. If you would do your investors one final nod and show your true class through this whole thing it would be to release your printer's code. This way the Tiko may be able to live on through the tinkerers. You said it was not for nothing, this would be the right way to prove that.
You requested shipping fees based on an expectation that you were ready to ship. Those were not to be used for any other purpose, amd refusal to refund them is fraud. They should have been refunded six months ago, and in no way does a 'backer-specific' email relieve you of the obligation to return those funds. KS should be suing you. Every backer who did not receive their Tiko should be suing you. You should be prosecuted for wire fraud.
I would like my shipping fee back immediately!
I want my shipping fee back ASAP!
I would like my shipping fee back immediately.
Will the hardware and software be open-sourced?