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Tiko is the 3D printer you’ve been waiting for. Simple, accessible, and dependable, all for a pledge of $179.
Tiko is the 3D printer you’ve been waiting for. Simple, accessible, and dependable, all for a pledge of $179.
Tiko is the 3D printer you’ve been waiting for. Simple, accessible, and dependable, all for a pledge of $179.
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    1. Jerry Bocci about 20 hours ago

      @Slyde: you don't have to fill it out again. BDO has indicated that the most recent email went out to all "good standing" backers of the TIKO Kickstarter project - i.e., those who weren't provided refunds from their credit card companies, those who didn't "sell" their "place in line", and those who didn't cancel their pledge (or get it cancelled); and, of course, those who didn't receive a TIKO, working or otherwise.
      If you already submitted the forms, you should should be okay, but you can email BDO to verify that they've received your email.

    2. Slyde 1 day ago

      when i first filled this out 6 months ago, i submitted both the tiko plus shipping. I figured, why not?


      I'm still not clear on if we really have to fill out all these forms again..... i'm not doing shit until someone tell me without question that i have to do it a 2nd time.

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      Alvin Khoo 1 day ago

      @Tamarinen , possibly would like to get back both USD55+179(234). Anyone else heading this way?

    4. Alex Tutusaus 1 day ago

      The most fun part of humanity is that in 1 year time from TODAY you'll still be able to browse THIS page and up-to-date "I invoke my rights" crap posted over and over.... See you in 1 year! LOL

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      Tamarinen 1 day ago

      @Alvin Khoo
      That's up to you. Some choose to see the USD179-or-so as the price for the lottery ticket, and concentrate on the USD55 shipping collected in spite of there being nothing substantial to ship.

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      Alvin Khoo 1 day ago

      Hey people, do we include the SHIPPING MONEY together with the USD179 in the claim??

    7. Ben 1 day ago

      Dear BDO Canada,

      based on your message of 22.05.2018 I confirm my submitted claim again by today's letter and attached form update. This contains the required exchange rate in CAD.

      With kind regards

    8. Kamphan Soulfly 2 days ago

      I try to call BDO Canada and send them the email to ask about this proof claim form but they do not respond me anything. Any idea?

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      Tamarinen 2 days ago

      @Slyde
      I see what you mean.

      @Adam Hogsett
      I suspect that the staff wasn't all that involved in it, but rather some kind of smart algorithm that noticed that the project would have a ton of money to collect at the end of the funding period, and that there could be two tons of it if advertised a bit more.

    10. Adam Hogsett 2 days ago

      Just found out this won't ever be delivered. Very frustrating.
      However, it is Kickstarter, and that is an inherent risk. Making a few prototypes is one thing, but being expected to know how to run a business and set up a supply chain in a foreign country after you get handed 3 million is dollars is another. Totally agree with the comments about not backing big tech Kickstarter projects. Won't be doing that again.

      Having launched and completed 6 Kickstarter Projects of my own (albeit nowhere near the scale of this one), I do empathize with these guys, even if bad decisions were made.

      What's more frustrating to me is this project was a "Staff Pick" and KS basically gave them a ton of free advertising on the site. How do the staff pick these?

    11. Slyde 2 days ago

      hey Tam...

      Yeah i do get that, but they had these thousands of forms for 6 months now. Further, when i first filled mine out, i emailed them asking if all was ok and they indicated i was all set.

      If they are telling us NOW that we have to redo them all because of a currency change, then thats complete BS.

      How many more ways can this shitshow of a project fail us....?

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      Tamarinen 2 days ago

      @Slyde
      You probably specified the amount in USD, while this last communication from them explicitly says they want the amount in CAD, with the conversion rate from a specific day. That's why people think it has to be redone.

    13. Remco Kossen 3 days ago

      I have not received my order.
      I invoke my rights under Kickstarter's Terms of Use:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012
      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
      I demand a full refund for my pledge amount

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      Derek Sullivan 3 days ago

      Do we seriously need to get these notarized?

    15. Slyde 3 days ago

      i dont believe that, if we already filled out this form months ago, that we have to now do it again? What in that email is making people think that they have to fill it out again?

      Also, based on what they originally said, they estimated that each person was going to get (i think) between $10-20. Far from what we paid, but i'll gladly take it.

    16. Phillip Sabolta 3 days ago

      The best bit in all this is that even if we only get 50c back its being converted to Canadian dollars so my 50c will be 60c

    17. Alex Tutusaus 3 days ago

      I ALSO don't know which words to circle at point 5 of the form, because I don't understand what is meant by "the meaning of section 4 of the Act". Do they ask if I'm personally related to the debtor?

    18. Tomislav Curkovic
      Superbacker
      3 days ago

      RIP TIKO3D

      Guys do not expect any money out of bankruptcy letter!
      Recent events have me thinking not to send so much details to anyone even if it is BDO...

    19. Dennis
      Superbacker
      3 days ago

      if you just backed one tiko, this is not worth any time. the compay couldn't pay any bills anymore which means there is *no big money* left: bankruptcy. you may receive at max CAD$0.5 (had this before with another campaign)

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      Tamarinen 3 days ago

      +1 Glenn.

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      Ralph Crützen 3 days ago

      I don't know which words to circle at point 5 of the form, because I don't understand what is meant by "the meaning of section 4 of the Act". Do they ask if I'm personally related to the debtor?

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      Glenn 3 days ago

      People asking about the bankruptcy letter, (I've yet to fill in mine), I've looked at what exactly this means.

      1. Why did you just get a letter regarding the bankruptcy?
      1A. Because it is normal to send one to the creditors without a claim the last month before due.

      2. What is a trustee? Did someone purchase Tiko?
      2A. When a company files a bankruptcy, the bank creates a bankruptcy estate which contains all the debtor's property, in other words "Tiko3D"'s everything, down to the last pen.
      A trustee is a person overseeing the bankruptcy estate and performs the duties required by law, f.ex. sending you this letter.
      In short he/she rounds up all the property from Tiko, sells it, collects all creditor claims (from us) and distribute money to the creditors (us).

      3. Will I get all my money back?
      3A. Probably not, they've used it, but this did purchase stuff that can be sold. Someone might of course be interested in purchasing absolutely everything, but most likely not. They used a lot of money for salary for a lot of people, this is something that can never come back.

      4. Will everyone get money or just some of us?
      4A. "The Trustee intends to declare and pay a dividend to all proven creditors of Tiko." In theory all of us should get a piece of the cake, but how much? If we're talking $1.000.000 in total, the 16.000 of us will get around $60 each.
      If it's $100.000 we'll get $6...

      In other words they are required by law to get a hold of all creditors. I'm not sure about this one, but I think they can also pay creditors that didn't file a claim if they have proof that they should have a claim.

      In any case, I encourage everyone to file a claim, but don't be prepared to get all of your money back. Tiko3D is bankrupt - anyone purchasing absolutely everything they had of parts, machining equipment etc. will do so for a fraction of the price (because the trustee wishes to sell it to any buyer interested). Bear in mind they only purchase the estate, and not the company - they have no connection to you afterwards, and no responsibility to fulfill Tiko3D's delivery promise.

      What you can hope for is that the trustee has been able to get some money for the estate, and if creditors aren't claiming, they won't get any (maybe only 5000 out of 16.000 will file a claim).

      But this is NOT a refund, and you will never get one. Tiko3D is bankrupt, and now you're considered a creditor which the trustee is obligated by law to contact.

      The only positive thing is the part I sited; "The Trustee intends to declare and pay a dividend to all proven creditors of Tiko", so everyone that files a claim will be involved in getting "some" money.

      These are all my personal thoughts on the matter, no one has won the lottery and will be reimbursing you for your full loss.

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      Marc W. 4 days ago

      I was sent an email notice from BDO that Tiko is in bankruptcy court with BDO of Canada. In order to claim the amounts both we paid for the Tiko (and for the $55. postage provided?) I/we need to show proof of purchase. Because I can not recall HOW I paid for it –nor can I locate the transaction amount of $179. amount via paypal or my bank account (which may have very well been a different bank than I now have) --Can we request some proof of purchase with a transaction IDs from Kickstarter? They must have that recorded somewhere right?

    24. Michael Sharman 4 days ago

      Read the email...
      - Examples there
      - Confirm your mailing address
      - Use CAD instead of your local currency for the specified date.

      So yes, likely have to redo the form if sent earlier and didn't use CAD.

    25. Xavi P.
      Superbacker
      4 days ago

      So can anyone put an example of how to fill the claim they just send? (without personal data oc).

    26. Alex Dixon 4 days ago

      I submitted a claim months ago - do I have to submit another regarding that email we just got?

    27. Harry Liu 4 days ago

      I have not received my order.
      I invoke my rights under Kickstarter's Terms of Use:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012
      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
      I demand a full refund for my pledge amount

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      Eric M 4 days ago

      If we already sent in a proof of claim months ago, is this a new one, or are we still good?

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      Flavien Rebattet 4 days ago

      For the amount Owing we put Shipping+Pledge?

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      john 4 days ago

      so someone is buying them out? We are getting out money back?

    31. Damian Vila 4 days ago

      Ha! Looks like we may get some money back after all... (how much, is a mystery)

    32. Robert Roeder 4 days ago

      Phil watt are you still around. Maybe can schedule a play date with our tikos. You seem to have house trained yours. Contact me at rcroeder@az-technology.com if you are interested. I am down in North bay and can come up your way.

    33. Phillip Sabolta 4 days ago

      KS is a gamble you take investing in a new product.

      Ive backed another 3D printer (cetus: which delivered and is great), a key "declutteter" (orbitket) and currently 16 boardgames.. of which 4 have been delivered. About 5 are delayed and the rest still in production.. but all likely to eventually ship.
      Apart from the Tiko, everything else has been fantastic albiet a few delays, which Ive come to expect.
      However Tiko was an expensive mistake and and an eye opener to the world of crowdfunding and product development.
      I was baited by flashy marketing and attractive design.

      I now mull over backing a project with whether I really need it, is there something tried and tested already available and ultimately is it worth the wait.
      Don't be put off, just be cautious.

    34. Slyde 4 days ago

      reason #1001 why i will never back another tech KS every again.....

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      Brian Kuhr 5 days ago

      Another kickstarter fail, over $5Million raised
      https://www.google.com/url…

    36. RoyT 5 days ago

      @alexandre
      Wow you are so out of date! The company went bankrupt like 6 months ago! You can read about it in the updates section. Since the company no longer exists, there will be no printer or refund. About the best you can do is file a claim with the bankruptcy trustee but maybe too late for that.

    37. Alexandre Du Pasquier 5 days ago

      It's been 2 years since I took part in the Tiko project, and I have not heard anything and received no printer since. It is indomitable!

      If you can not fulfill your commitments, please proceed to my refund.

      thanks for your understanding

    38. Slyde on May 17

      @sha: thanks for that update....

      I plan on paying off my mortgage with this refund, so im anxiously awaiting to receive it...

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      Tamarinen on May 17

      Oh crap, it's apology time!

      I said this campaign is bound by https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use , but that's not true! That one will go into effect on May 25, 2018, at 12 a.m. Eastern Time. The Terms of Use this campaign is bound by is actually https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/sept2014 , which has this to say about refunds:

      "You can refund individual pledges if you want. After your project has been funded, you can cancel and refund a backer’s pledge at any time. If you do, you have no further obligation to that specific backer, and no agreement exists between you."

      Still no cookie, though.

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      Tamarinen on May 17

      @วโรดม ด่านสุวรรณดำรง

      The Terms of Use that this campaign is bound by, https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use , doesn't have that line. It says this about refunds:

      "You can refund individual pledges if you want. After your project has been funded, you can cancel and refund a backer’s pledge at any time. If you do, you have no further obligation to that specific backer, and no agreement exists between you."

      That's all the rights a backer has regarding refunds, and even those are out the window in case of bankruptcy, which is the case here.

    41. วโรดม ด่านสุวรรณดำรง on May 17

      I have not received my order.
      I invoke my rights under Kickstarter's Terms of Use:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012
      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
      I demand a full refund for my pledge amount

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      Tamarinen on May 17

      @Phillip Sabolta
      The 2012 ToS people link to says "This page applies only to projects launched on or before October 18th, 2014 at 11:59pm ET.".

      https://3dprint.com/54740/tiko-unibody-3d-printer/ says this project was launched March 30th, 2015, which falls squarely outside of that date.

    43. Phillip Sabolta on May 17

      Despite the terms being updated.. wouldn't the "contract" we agreed to be the terms from when this campaign was launched?

      Don't get me wrong I would love to see $200 back in my account.

      Also they're bankrupt so.. you know.. not keeping my hopes up.

      This would be a scapegoat for any new projects too.. "oh no we ran out of funds because of X reason" *declares bankrupcy*

    44. RoyT on May 16

      Oh boy, it will be fun reading the howls and whines when BDO announces the results of the bankruptcy. Anyone want to take bets? Maybe a poll? I predict unsecured types get a big fat zero!

    45. sha on May 16

      I check with BDO Canada,they say update will come around next week in regards to the refund and stuffs.

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      Tamarinen on May 16

      @Slyde
      @Dungeonstone

      Thank you!

    47. Dungeonstone on May 15

      I have not received my order.

      I would like to invoke my rights under Kickstarter's Terms of Use:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012
      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."

      However that company has been dissolved, its assets transferred to a bankruptcy holding group and that specific TOS dosen't even apply to this Kickstarter.

      So in the end, I demand nothing and expect nothing from "Tiko 3D" for my pledge amount

    48. Lorenzo JB Saponetta on May 15

      Any news? I'm backer number 205 I still got nothing.
      Thank you all

    49. Slyde on May 15

      @Tamarinen: Thanks for reminding me! Thank Goodness i posted this in time!



      I have not received my order.
      I invoke my rights under Kickstarter's Terms of Use:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012
      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
      I demand a full refund for my pledge amount

    50. Aaron Howdle on May 15

      I have not received my order.
      I invoke my rights under Kickstarter's Terms of Use:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012
      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
      I demand a full refund for my pledge amount

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