HUB is a set of custom double-shot, injection molded keycaps, designed for the modern typist and keyboard enthusiast.
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Thanks for that information. I'm definitely going to be getting one then!
@Johnathan Butterworth we have the minivan stuff pretty much ready to run and will be working on a stand-alone campaign for the MiniVan. Stay tuned!
I understand the reasoning for cancelling.
I'm just hoping I can get my hands on a Minivan still!
Super bummed the campaign was cancelled but I look forward to updates and taking part in what you guys do next. I still am in love with those colorways so I look forward to having them on my board one day. Good luck!
Oh noes! There goes my chance for early bird MiniVan. :( I'll try harder next time!
Best of luck Evan & Co. - it's sad to see the campaign go down, but on the other hand if the next iteration will be better and have all (most?) of the community feedback included, it's for the best.
Any idea when we could expect the campaign to rerun?
What just happened?
Everyone needs to man up and drop the 3OO I think. https://imgur.com/gallery/9h7nL
I really really want this campaign to succeed... I know the tooling and all that goes into something as precise as a keycap isn't cheap. That said, I still feel like $500k goal is a bit of a stretch in this kind of niche community (vs something like bags and photog gear that regularly raise hundreds of thousands).
Either way I backed immediately when the campaign launched. And if it doesn't meet the goal for some reason, I hope the colorways can be made in a profile already available or... A lower goal possibly?
One reason why it's not catching on as much as it should is because it is an entirely new profile that would be totally incompatible with the keysets that people already have and I know a lot of people who like to mix and match keys from different keysets, which works well as long as the profiles are the same. Also, I was hoping the profile was symmetrical like DSA or XDA. Perhaps this would have a wider appeal if it came in one of those profiles, which are more versatile for customization.
I hope this project gets some new supporters the coming month, still a long way to go.
@Draic I knew that, but it doesn't mean a better package can not be offer.
@Draic Yea... except I will already have 3mm LEDs on a board I'd like to put a set of these caps on, that's why I wanted to clear up if there would be clearance issues or not.
@Jonathan. Comparing Hubs to Cherry their heights are nearly identical. Just stick to 1.8mm LEDs. Not worries then
Do you know if there will be enough room under the keycap to fit in different LED sizes and clips?
I know some GMK Cherry rows have trouble with 3mm LEDs so I'm hoping this profile fixes that problem.
@Juta: You realize that a minivan without plate is usually 200 by itself, right?
Evan, what keyboard was the 1.5u R2 Del intended for?
Hey there @ALL
Please check this strawpoll and vote in regards to DEL>>BSPACE 1.5U R2
@Evan sorry to be a bit of a penny-pincher. I mean 6 set tier is $200, and based on 3 + minivan tier price, I assumed the minivan is around $125. Was hoping for something less than $375 for 6 + minivan tier.
@Kyle N if you are adding an additional three it would just be that reward tier so 125 additional
@Evan how much per set though? If you back for just the 6 set they are like 33 bucks each instead of 50 each. or the 3 set is around 41 bucks per set.
@Juta C. Just get the 3set + minivan and then increase the pledge amount for the extra 3 sets. Simple!
Waiting for 6 set + minivan tier. Will increase my pledge.
@Eric Strathmeyer. Ha! I have the same issue with my WhiteFox. I was toying around with the idea of flipping the Delete key 180 degrees to turn it into a Backspace. Unfortunately the profile is not vertically symmetrical so the key would end up sticking out a bit and also the glyph would end up on the other corner. I hope a stretch goal would address this.
@Starius. That would have been a good idea but the Whitefox has both a BS and Del key next to each other.
Maybe a Kickstarter only case color(s) (hex codes) could be something similar to:
1) Crimson Red (#ce0000) - My personal favorite since you don't see crimson often
2) Elf Green (#166E56)
3) Siren Blue (#005b96)
4) Stardust Grey (#868F98 or B2BCC0)
5) Cosmic Purple (#7A1A57)
6) Kickstarter Green (#096017)
Either way I'll be looking forward to the finished product. Maybe colored cases could be offered later in the future if they are not feasible at this time.
You know, on most Apple/Mac keyboards since the 80s (with a few exceptions) the "traditional" Backspace key is called the Delete key anyways. So you have a viable precedent there!
Ah crumbs… I realized I’m a “Why isn’t layout XYZ supported?” person. I’m trying to find keycaps for the WhiteFox True Fox layout which uses an R2 1.5U Backspace. D:
I guess a 1.5U Delete key will suffice! :)
Kickstarter exclusive green would be sooooooooooooo nice! :)
Also, I'm all aboard ditching Caps Lock in favour of Ctrl and Fn keys.
@Evan - I’d suggest swapping the R3 1.75U stepped Caps Lock and the R5 1.75U Caps Lock for an R3 1.75U Ctrl and a n R3 1.75U Fn.
I think it’s worth keeping a Caps Lock key in the standard layout, but we don’t need so many extras. I love a stepped Caps, but the Fn or Ctrl would be more useful to more people – and they both seem more widely used than an R5 Caps Lock.
@Draic we can look at adding a kickstarter exclusive color, we could do a backer vote for the color.
still more options would be nice :(
@Draic we chose silver for a couple reasons.
1) cheap to do
2) compliments all the sets really well
3) easier to get a really nice finish
kickstarter coloring for items is usually black with green accents.
btw why was silve chosen as color? I guess it is because it's a bit cheaper to produce than the black version?
Is it possible to include a R4 2u Left Shift for some of us 60%ers ?
@Logan Gilley the MiniVan case will be silver anodize. I like the idea of a limited edition KS color though. What color would you like to see if that were added as an option?
@Draic Thanks for the feedback, it's incredibly useful. USPS removed their cheapest rate earlier this year. I will investigate other carriers for international shipments.
I’m not sure if this has been asked yet but what material/color will the case be for the minivan in the Kickstarter campaign? It may be neat to offer a limited edition case color or something for the people who buy a minivan in this Kickstarter campaign. Let’s hope we reach 500k!
Agree with @Kasper. USPS could do a better job, if they would provide proper information sharing with our national carriers, but they do not (Unlike canada post for example). So every USPS package that has a declared value above threshold (25€), will get stuck in customs, be delayed and is a hassle to receive.
DHL works much better in that regard, but depending on the items and value they will still hand it over to customs, but the process is more streamlined in my experience. And it depends on what services and options you take when using DHL.
Also UPS and fedex of course, which will always handle customs themselves, but their service is of course much more expensive.
I've had the best experiences with DHL. Any fees or tax are announced via SMS/E-mail and can be paid immediately.
When USPS handles shipping the package gets handed over to our national carrier as soon as it enters the country and then it usually gets stuck in customs for a week or two.
@Raul R. I think there are not quite enough to support the ergodox. The keys that we do have wouldn't all be correct profile/legend. It's tough picking what should and shouldn't be included.
@Draic thanks for the feedback, I did not think about the issue in that way. Duncan did seem to be coming from the cheaper point of view, but I'm glad you added what you did. I was not aware that USPS was not a good method for EU folks (I've never had any complaints about them). What is the best carrier that you've dealt with?
You could still offer ways for EU-friendly shipping, as a lot of other kickstarter projects do via warehouse distribution. Or atleast offer optional different carriers, as USPS is the worst you could do to anyone in the EU. EU-friendly does not mean cheaper or tax-avoiding, but simply less hassle for the consumer.
Hi, just double checking, but the current set looks like there are enough 1.5u keys to support Input Clubs’ Infinity Ergodox. Am I correct or are there any keys missing that can be considered.
@Ruel Franco they are the kailh sockets and all MiniVan layouts are supported (standard, arrow, southpaw)
@Duncan Sample unfortunately we have no control over import taxes. You will need to take that up with your government.
Is there any chance there will be EU-friendly shipping? At the moment I'm looking at the $200/250 pledge, but after $35 shipping and ~£40 (~$55) import duty, the $200 pledge turns into nearly $300. I don't know how many other backers are in the EU though, so maybe I'm in a minority.
Evan, what hot swap sockets do you use for the MiniVan, and does the board allow to be reconfigured to arrow layout?
@foxfluff I'll be doing a run of plates before the kickstarter fulfills so sometime between now and October (probably June or July)
@Margarita Vasileva the J and F keys are deep dish and do not have bumps.
@tanvir175 thank you so so much. We really appreciate the support!
Just pledged for the $500 tier. Hope this succeeds!
Hey guys. I wanted to thank you for the hard work. I was wondering if J and F keys will have bumps?
Saw somewhere that the minivan would be PCB mount only and would need a plate to be manufactured, and then purchased separately on thevan's site. Is this still planned to happen? and if so when might we be able to purchase the plate?
I agree with Eric.
I agree with Eric. Would prefer CTRL/FN in R3