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You and up to three friends must try to reclaim the realms. Explore, gather, trade and customise your hero to prepare for battle!
You and up to three friends must try to reclaim the realms. Explore, gather, trade and customise your hero to prepare for battle!
You and up to three friends must try to reclaim the realms. Explore, gather, trade and customise your hero to prepare for battle!
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    1. Frank West 3-time creator
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      Lee: If we order the deluxe upgrade/set-up trays, are they the same size as before or are the resized for the new, larger box? I'm trying to decide whether or not I should order the larger box but a proper storage option is more important for me so I' prioritise the trays.

      Everything is the same as the first print run apart from the box.

    2. Frank West 3-time creator
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      on

      tracey roper: I can’t see latest delivery timing anywhere. Moving from China to USA in Nov.... not sure which address I should give

      The delivery date is set for January 2019, we'll send out an update if we see any reason this might change.

    3. Frank West 3-time creator
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      on

      Jason: AHHHHH I am finally getting this game!!! $1 pledge turned into ALL IN PLEDGE!!! phew.... Thanks @Frank for allowing us to do this via Backerkit.... money isn't as tight now.

      Thank you!

    4. Frank West 3-time creator
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      on

      DJForget: @Frank, I completed my Backerkit survey and paid a few weeks ago. Now, I would like to add/edit my add-ons. Is this possible? I do not see a way to do this on the backerkit page.

      You will need to message me if you would like to do this and I will be able to unlock your account.

    5. Lee on

      I'm sure this must have been asked before but there are over 2,000 comments to search now and I can't find the information elsewhere.

      If we order the deluxe upgrade/set-up trays, are they the same size as before or are the resized for the new, larger box? I'm trying to decide whether or not I should order the larger box but a proper storage option is more important for me so I' prioritise the trays.

    6. J.D. Zuber Jr on

      @tracey: Unless I am severely mistaken, the game is set for delivery in January 2019 or so. If you are going to be back in the States in November, that would seem to be the correct address to provide.

    7. Preston
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      on

      Thank you DJ!

    8. tracey roper
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      on

      I can’t see latest delivery timing anywhere. Moving from China to USA in Nov.... not sure which address I should give

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      DJForget on

      From update #17:
      "Pledge Manager will be open until at least July 13th and I will send out another update in a few weeks to let you know if this date will be extended".

    10. Preston
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      on

      When does the PM close?

    11. Jason Winterfeld on

      AHHHHH I am finally getting this game!!! $1 pledge turned into ALL IN PLEDGE!!! phew.... Thanks @Frank for allowing us to do this via Backerkit.... money isn't as tight now.

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      DJForget on

      @Frank, I completed my Backerkit survey and paid a few weeks ago. Now, I would like to add/edit my add-ons. Is this possible? I do not see a way to do this on the backerkit page.

    13. Adam Wickham on

      Perfect! Thanks Frank!

    14. Frank West 3-time creator
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      on

      Hey Adam,

      The next card charge will happen on Friday 29th!

      I hope that helps.

    15. Adam Wickham on

      Hey Frank! Perhaps this has been answered but I completed my backerkit early last week and the funds still haven't been taken. Is there a specific date for those to be withdrawn from my account or will that happen when the pledge manager closes at the end of the month? Thank you.

    16. Frank West 3-time creator
      Superbacker
      on

      Thanks Jason, I appreciate that!

      I'll put a note about it in an update soon, I try to limit how frequently I send updates out (once every few weeks when possible) and want to send one on Friday/Monday so will keep it for then.

    17. Jason Winterfeld on

      @Frank WOW sorry to hear about the PayPal issue. I was going to do my backerkit this week as I finally have the funds needed... Luckily for you I read the comments section today and now I will wait a few extra days for my PayPal balance to transfer to my credit card before completing the backerkit.... I would rather take the extra time to allow you to use my money for completing the game.

      PS you might want to put that in an Update so it doesn't get buried in the comments like it currently is doing. Just make it a simple BackerKit update, and drop the info about PayPal.

    18. René Schultze
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      on

      @Joe: Good idea - but what else can you expect from a fellow Vindicator :)

    19. Joe
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      on

      PayPal has been locking down funds for many publishers. Why they think holding funds that are often needed in order to pay for manufacturing and shipping actually helps people get their games is beyond me. Preventing an account from accepting new payments is one thing. But holding funds just hurts everyone involved.

      Jamey Stegmaier wrote an article about this last year: https://stonemaiergames.com/the-danger-of-accepting-pre-orders-via-paypal/

      For anyone in the US or UK who was planning on using PayPal, one alternative is to get a PayPal debit card. This will still allow you to use your PayPal funds, but the difference is it won't go to Frank's PayPal account, thus bypassing the freeze.

      Here are the links for those:

      US: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/cash-card
      UK: https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/accesscard

      PayPal might have similar options for other countries, so if you are in a different country, you might want to look to see what is available.

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      TreeMunky on

      @Tim Frank's wood is always worth it 🤣

    21. Tim Root on

      OK, Frank, I had no intention or interest in Vadoran Gardens, but I just watched Rahdo's video on it and now I have to add it to my pledge. I haven't payed up with the backerkit yet, because I have to go through a few extra hoops when paying to Europe, but at least you can expect another Vadoran sale and the full Ancient Allies purchase. I'm still enjoying my CoK deluxe from the first round, and if anyone is on the fence about regular or deluxe CoK. GO DELUXE! The wood is worth it.

    22. Frank West 3-time creator
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      on

      @Anders Pihl Kofoed

      Not at all, it may impact our ability to attend some conventions or other events, but it wont impact the delivery of the games.

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      Anders Pihl Kofoed
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      on

      @Frank So at this point it has no influence on our deliveries? :-)

    24. Preston
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      on

      Fans of this game on the Kickstarter Gaming Discord have created a channel for City of Kings. Come join and discuss the game. Let's talk about the updates, progress and when the game releases we’ll organize City of Kings game events in our local areas.
      https://discord.gg/XFsa4Tq

    25. Frank West 3-time creator
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      on

      Hey Penguin,

      The % of PayPal users isn't too high so currently I see this as a major inconvenience rather than problem, for the time being we'll keep the PayPal option open for those who need it.

      For the time being I'll continue negotiating with PayPal on release dates.

    26. Penguin on

      @Frank another game I pledged gugong also suffer from this and they disable the PayPal channel ...
      seem possible or able to communicate with PayPal to release the fund early maybe can ask how they handle ?

    27. Penguin on

      I hope the % of using paypal isn’t that more ..
      you need funds to produce and ship the product ...

    28. Frank West 3-time creator
      Superbacker
      on

      PayPal announcement: Hi everyone, unfortunately last week our PayPal account was put under limitations by PayPal due to us using it for pre-orders. The result of this is all funds received through PayPal are being held by PayPal until January and we no longer have access to them.

      Our goal is always to offer our games to as many people as possible, and as we understand not everyone has other payment options, we have decided to keep PayPal as an option for both pre-orders and on our store.

      However, with this limitation in place, we would ask that people only use PayPal to purchase items from our stores when they don't have the ability to pay using other methods.

      Thank you

    29. Frank West 3-time creator
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      on

      Hi MrDL,

      The pledge manager is via BackerKit.

      Once you have completed your survey it will become closed and you will only be able to edit your shipping address.

      The "staying open" update is for those who have not yet filled it in.

    30. MrDL on

      Is the pledge manager via Backerkit? I got an email for a survey which directed me to backerkit and filled out my order. But now with the update saying the pledge manager will stay open I am a bit confused since when I go to Backerkit it's closed.

    31. Frank West 3-time creator
      Superbacker
      on

      Hi Justin, the next charge date will be Friday 29th June.

    32. Justin "Vex" Brissette
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      on

      So is there going to be another date that Backers get charged again?

    33. Frank West 3-time creator
      Superbacker
      on

      The latest version of the Vadoran Gardens rulebook is now online and feedback would be appreciated! It wont be long until this goes off to print and we wont be able to make any further modifications.

      https://boardgamegeek.com/article/29308449

    34. Frank West 3-time creator
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      on

      Zac Nelson: So if your card is charged on Friday can you still buy things from the pledge manager

      If your card is charged, then your account will be marked locked by default. However I am able to unlock accounts and add items after this if you message me, so it would still be possible to add more.

      Note. If you've not yet completed your survey then your account wont be locked.

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      Zac Nelson on

      So if your card is charged on Friday can you still buy things from the pledge manager

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      Marco
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      Thanks!

    37. Frank West 3-time creator
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      on

      Hi Marco, The KS pack is included in the Deluxe Edition. So it would only be the Big Box / Art Book from The City of Kings, and Vadoran Gardens which is our new standalone game.

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      Marco
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      on

      Hi frank,

      If I have a deluxe first ks edition and world pack, what am I missing to have all content? Ks pack, big box and art book only right?

    39. Frank West 3-time creator
      Superbacker
      on

      Leonardo Russo: hi frank, i had update my pledge few days ago buying the delude base and the side quest pack, but the amount has not been charged in my credit card... is this normal?

      Hi Leonardo, this is normal. BackerKit don't charge credit cards straight away, the first payment will be processed on Friday 15th June.

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      Sandra on

      Thank you Frank! I‘m convinced now and PM is done 😁

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      Leonardo Russo on

      hi frank, i had update my pledge few days ago buying the delude base and the side quest pack, but the amount has not been charged in my credit card... is this normal?

    42. Frank West 3-time creator
      Superbacker
      on

      and thank you Ronald!

    43. Frank West 3-time creator
      Superbacker
      on

      Thank you Blaine !

    44. Frank West 3-time creator
      Superbacker
      on

      Sandra: I still don't know if I want the bigger box. I pledged for the World Pack. Does it come in 6 different boxes as shown in the pictures? If so, I'd rather get the big box that can hold everything.

      The world packs come in 4 boxes, some of the photos show both the front/back of the boxes as they are double sided, but it's 4 in total.

    45. Ronald L.
      Superbacker
      on

      @frank west. Thank you! Hoping until July because batman's all-in shipping cost killed me.

    46. Blaine on

      So I just got the base game and the side quests pack. Being Canadian, the deluxe upgrade and extra characters really added up so I figured I’d save $140 and “make due” with the base game stories and scenarios. Adding in the PNP scenarios from this campaign bumps up the content too. If I’m really into the game when I get it then hopefully I can order this stuff later.

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      Sandra on

      I still don't know if I want the bigger box. I pledged for the World Pack. Does it come in 6 different boxes as shown in the pictures? If so, I'd rather get the big box that can hold everything.

      @Frank, it would be great if you teamed up with e.g. Folded Space for a customized insert in your next Kickstarter project. I would happily invest in it to get everything nicely organized. :-)

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      Vince M. on

      @René Schultze Yes, the trays are part of my pledge. I went all-in! I'm really excited to get it to the table in early 2019.

    49. René Schultze
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      on

      @Vince: I played TCoK once solo and it was nice. But I played it multiple times with four players and I like it much better because the coop factor of the game is brilliant and more fun with other player. I wish you therefore luck that you will get one of your players at the table. It’s worth the effort. And if you have the trays the game didn’t look so intimidating anymore ;)

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