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@Jason, he will be. Booth 2765
@Frank West do you plan on being at Gen Con this year?
Hi @ Frank
When is the next backer kit charge ?
@Hagen, DJForget is correct, completed surveys have been locked.
If you wish to make changes then please send me a message and I will sort it for you.
Thanks, Frank, decision made.
@Hagen Munsch, direct message Frank, and he can unlock your PM account for you.
Is it right that I can only change the shipping address in the PM right now?
Addons are not available anymore?
My Order is locked.
Hi Christof, I'm afraid I'm not 100% sure of the question. I have just checked and it looks like your survey has been completed. If you need some further help, please feel free to message me via Kickstarter and I'll be happy to help.
Hi frank, i have a question if the pledge and met ADD ons are deducted from met account have i been in order with the servey?
Hi frank, i hardly can’t wait until i have the game delivered.
@Lee Moving forward this will be the only box size we make, yes. So it will be the one used for any organisers and other 3rd party items that depend on box size.
Thanks, Frank. Sounds like I'd better stump up the cash for the bigger box. It feels horrible to think about throwing the existing one away, though! I'm guessing this is the new 'standard' and, therefore, if anybody develops organisers it will be for this size box.
Hey Lee. That really depends on the version, if you have the retail version and the original smaller box then it might fit, but I wouldn't want to promise.
Thanks, Frank. So how foolhardy would it be to try and fit the new character packs and dexterity pack, with trays, into the current box?
Lee: If we order the deluxe upgrade/set-up trays, are they the same size as before or are the resized for the new, larger box? I'm trying to decide whether or not I should order the larger box but a proper storage option is more important for me so I' prioritise the trays.
Everything is the same as the first print run apart from the box.
tracey roper: I can’t see latest delivery timing anywhere. Moving from China to USA in Nov.... not sure which address I should give
The delivery date is set for January 2019, we'll send out an update if we see any reason this might change.
Jason: AHHHHH I am finally getting this game!!! $1 pledge turned into ALL IN PLEDGE!!! phew.... Thanks @Frank for allowing us to do this via Backerkit.... money isn't as tight now.
DJForget: @Frank, I completed my Backerkit survey and paid a few weeks ago. Now, I would like to add/edit my add-ons. Is this possible? I do not see a way to do this on the backerkit page.
You will need to message me if you would like to do this and I will be able to unlock your account.
I'm sure this must have been asked before but there are over 2,000 comments to search now and I can't find the information elsewhere.
If we order the deluxe upgrade/set-up trays, are they the same size as before or are the resized for the new, larger box? I'm trying to decide whether or not I should order the larger box but a proper storage option is more important for me so I' prioritise the trays.
@tracey: Unless I am severely mistaken, the game is set for delivery in January 2019 or so. If you are going to be back in the States in November, that would seem to be the correct address to provide.
Thank you DJ!
I can’t see latest delivery timing anywhere. Moving from China to USA in Nov.... not sure which address I should give
From update #17:
"Pledge Manager will be open until at least July 13th and I will send out another update in a few weeks to let you know if this date will be extended".
When does the PM close?
AHHHHH I am finally getting this game!!! $1 pledge turned into ALL IN PLEDGE!!! phew.... Thanks @Frank for allowing us to do this via Backerkit.... money isn't as tight now.
@Frank, I completed my Backerkit survey and paid a few weeks ago. Now, I would like to add/edit my add-ons. Is this possible? I do not see a way to do this on the backerkit page.
Perfect! Thanks Frank!
The next card charge will happen on Friday 29th!
I hope that helps.
Hey Frank! Perhaps this has been answered but I completed my backerkit early last week and the funds still haven't been taken. Is there a specific date for those to be withdrawn from my account or will that happen when the pledge manager closes at the end of the month? Thank you.
Thanks Jason, I appreciate that!
I'll put a note about it in an update soon, I try to limit how frequently I send updates out (once every few weeks when possible) and want to send one on Friday/Monday so will keep it for then.
@Frank WOW sorry to hear about the PayPal issue. I was going to do my backerkit this week as I finally have the funds needed... Luckily for you I read the comments section today and now I will wait a few extra days for my PayPal balance to transfer to my credit card before completing the backerkit.... I would rather take the extra time to allow you to use my money for completing the game.
PS you might want to put that in an Update so it doesn't get buried in the comments like it currently is doing. Just make it a simple BackerKit update, and drop the info about PayPal.
@Joe: Good idea - but what else can you expect from a fellow Vindicator :)
PayPal has been locking down funds for many publishers. Why they think holding funds that are often needed in order to pay for manufacturing and shipping actually helps people get their games is beyond me. Preventing an account from accepting new payments is one thing. But holding funds just hurts everyone involved.
Jamey Stegmaier wrote an article about this last year: https://stonemaiergames.com/the-danger-of-accepting-pre-orders-via-paypal/
For anyone in the US or UK who was planning on using PayPal, one alternative is to get a PayPal debit card. This will still allow you to use your PayPal funds, but the difference is it won't go to Frank's PayPal account, thus bypassing the freeze.
Here are the links for those:
PayPal might have similar options for other countries, so if you are in a different country, you might want to look to see what is available.
@Tim Frank's wood is always worth it 🤣
OK, Frank, I had no intention or interest in Vadoran Gardens, but I just watched Rahdo's video on it and now I have to add it to my pledge. I haven't payed up with the backerkit yet, because I have to go through a few extra hoops when paying to Europe, but at least you can expect another Vadoran sale and the full Ancient Allies purchase. I'm still enjoying my CoK deluxe from the first round, and if anyone is on the fence about regular or deluxe CoK. GO DELUXE! The wood is worth it.
@Anders Pihl Kofoed
Not at all, it may impact our ability to attend some conventions or other events, but it wont impact the delivery of the games.
@Frank So at this point it has no influence on our deliveries? :-)
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The % of PayPal users isn't too high so currently I see this as a major inconvenience rather than problem, for the time being we'll keep the PayPal option open for those who need it.
For the time being I'll continue negotiating with PayPal on release dates.
@Frank another game I pledged gugong also suffer from this and they disable the PayPal channel ...
seem possible or able to communicate with PayPal to release the fund early maybe can ask how they handle ?
I hope the % of using paypal isn’t that more ..
you need funds to produce and ship the product ...
PayPal announcement: Hi everyone, unfortunately last week our PayPal account was put under limitations by PayPal due to us using it for pre-orders. The result of this is all funds received through PayPal are being held by PayPal until January and we no longer have access to them.
Our goal is always to offer our games to as many people as possible, and as we understand not everyone has other payment options, we have decided to keep PayPal as an option for both pre-orders and on our store.
However, with this limitation in place, we would ask that people only use PayPal to purchase items from our stores when they don't have the ability to pay using other methods.
The pledge manager is via BackerKit.
Once you have completed your survey it will become closed and you will only be able to edit your shipping address.
The "staying open" update is for those who have not yet filled it in.
Is the pledge manager via Backerkit? I got an email for a survey which directed me to backerkit and filled out my order. But now with the update saying the pledge manager will stay open I am a bit confused since when I go to Backerkit it's closed.
Hi Justin, the next charge date will be Friday 29th June.
So is there going to be another date that Backers get charged again?
The latest version of the Vadoran Gardens rulebook is now online and feedback would be appreciated! It wont be long until this goes off to print and we wont be able to make any further modifications.
Zac Nelson: So if your card is charged on Friday can you still buy things from the pledge manager
If your card is charged, then your account will be marked locked by default. However I am able to unlock accounts and add items after this if you message me, so it would still be possible to add more.
Note. If you've not yet completed your survey then your account wont be locked.
So if your card is charged on Friday can you still buy things from the pledge manager