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After no updates or communication in more than 18 months, I understand that ZoPro is defunct, as there were numerous unexpected and complex financial, design, and manufacturing setbacks. I have made multiple requests via comments and KS message to Joe Adams for a refund. In terms of a refund, it is only appropriate for Joe Adams / ZoPro to respond to and refund its loyal backers. It is an ethical breach, and I encourage an appropriate refund strategy that complies with the polices as defined by KS without further delay. I believe it has been a learning opportunity for all involved (designers and backers), however, resolution is needed.
I have also submitted the form passed along by others in the message thread: https://docs.google.com/a/kickstarter.com/forms/d/1KvWOM5qEvurz4EaZJch3B_1f3c3WLKe56vRI1gb4uRg/viewform
Oh Mr. Adams... Are you still avoiding us?
Eastpointvet - yup, only thing I've never received either ...
I hadn't checked the comments for a while but I filled in the form too, hopefully we'll all see something from this, and thanks for the link Marika!
this is the only thing i have never received on kickstarter
I want a refund, do we have to start suing for our refunds?
Funding goal reached two years ago today - happy anniversary everyone :-(
I would suggest everyone fill out the form at the link below and voice your opinion. We all spent a good deal of money on a product that we will not be receiving, which equals fraud.
Joe, it's sad that you weren't able to get your dream off the ground (although it's odd you were able to get another project done right after this -- presumably using ZoPro funds). Be straight and tell people you failed. Be a man.
I second that. I'd be happy if Joe Adams was permanently banned from KickStarter. Also filled in the form. https://docs.google.com/a/kickstarter.com/forms/d/1KvWOM5qEvurz4EaZJch3B_1f3c3WLKe56vRI1gb4uRg/viewform
Thank you I have also filled out this form.
It appears he hasn't even been online since Early August. I've filled out this Kickstarter form to report the project, though I doubt anything will come of it:
So, can I have my money back?
Joe your a joke, not only did you lose all of our money but you now don't even have the courage to reply to us. Your a terrible business man as well as a terrible person. Thanks for wasting years of our time
Nearly two years and two (three, if you count the 6 plus) phone revisions, and still nothing. Could we at least get the extras like the tripod and lens kits that were part of our packages?
Darryl, I think the real reason is that he used up all the money in manufacturing. The only way we're getting a refund is if he gets sued.
I tried asking for a refund at least a year ago now, but Joe stated that it would be unfair to the other backers if I got a refund since he was still (I don't know how) optimistic that the ZoPro would be shipped at some point.
What are you waiting for now Joe? The release of the iPhone 7???
Do the right thing and refund the funds from all 389 backers ...
Kickstarter, can you please make this scam artist refund our money with your new terms and conditions?
I'm thinking about starting a Kickstarter project to help with fitting the iPhone 6 into the iPhone 5 sized ZOpro: Incredibly Thin Case-Integrated Charging case.
I'm having difficulty deciding whether to produce some kind of tool that will cut the iPhone 6 down to size so it fits in the case, or a tool that will stretch the ZOpro: Incredibly Thin Case-Integrated Charging case so it can fit the iPhone 6.
Before I would have argued other way But... This is a TOTAL SCAM!! NO UPDATES, NO INFORMATION, NO COMPLETION!! Please if you even want to support the little faith that is still "maybe" left in any of us, let us know what is going on!!
This is absolutely ridiculous. I have been patient and understanding, but this has gone to far. Last response I saw was from June!!! Please tell us what is going on!
Did you order a iPhone 6 or 6+ ?
Joe somehow had my post removed the popular site Kickscammed.com... The project needed to be posted on the site to make everyone aware it failed and there is still no action after almost 2 years.
Did you watch the event joe?
Life Spot - KS project is issuing a refund since they will not be able to deliver the product; https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/651803572/life-spot-powerful-solution/posts/978469
iPhone 6 in less than a week....... What are you doing about moving this project forward? It's crazy to think this was supposed to be ready for when the new iPhone 5 came out....
We deserve answers, what's the deal joe?
Clearly Joe Adams is a gutless wonder.
I DEMAND my money back!!!
From Kickstarter FAQ:
Is a creator legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project?
After two years of waiting, it's time to refund ZOpro backers.
@Raymond it would have to be through your credit card company, on Amazon Payments it says you have to file a dispute within 30 days of payment.
Looks like backers might as well start sending fraud claims with Amazon Payments and their respective credit cards. If nothing else, we would either get our money back, or end up pestering him enough to get some sort of response. This is getting to "Founders" level of disappointment.
No update in 10 months and radio silence to any comments or questions on here!
Very poor customer service and very little compassion or consideration for any of the packers who supported you.
You'll never succeed if this is your work ethic!
Sorry, sounds like you need to take a loan out to refund. You may not be in a position - but according to Kickstarter, if you cannot fulfill, you need to refund. What about those of us that gave you the money and trusted in you?- heading your way to a bit of a lawsuit if you don't figure this out.
So now he's selling that POS metal thing on Stack Social...
Renamed to 'Project Joke' due to a lack of updates, product or general respect for backers.
So... Are we going to have to sue you to get an update? How about providing us with some exact numbers to give your backers some transparency on why you are so behind and on what still needs to be done? How much money do you still need? What do you need to get done? How many XiStera's do you need to distribute in order have enough funds to complete the ZOpro project? Are the ZOpro's ready and just waiting for distribution funds? Are the ZOpro's even made yet? What are you going to do if the iPhone 6 is released and neither the ZOpro, nor the XiStera fit it?
With all due respect, your "not posting and update because there is nothing to update" philosophy is full of crap and just serves to anger us backers even more. At this point, you might as well sell more XiStera products to generate enough cash to repay all the ZOpro backers you have been teasing for the past two years.
It's time to refund all the backers since you are unable to deliver the promised product.
Yes, its been really frustrating that we don't have anything to update. We have shipped many XiStera's to backers who have give up on us as far as ZOpro is concerned. From our stand point we cannot give up on the project even though we are passing the product cycle. Since we were well short on funds to complete the project we obviously are in no position to refund. Distribution to our other product is key to getting the funds to complete the project and we have had some delays there. We will get something done here and as soon as we have concrete plans everyone will get an update. Joe
We've seen 2 updates since update #14 which happened a year ago.
Joe. How about an update? You are lumping yourself with the lowest tier of Kickstarter...
Oh look, Mario's link suggest that a lawsuit could do the job. Looks like someone else also promised stuff but because of the lack of experience they didn't fulfil the orders and ended up bankrupt and jobless... Fascinating what lack of experience can do to you when you play with other people's money...
Yes Dashiell. I will message you directly about that.
And I understand everyone's frustration. We would much rather have product on the market instead of very expensive tooling sitting on a shelf. We had two deals fall through from companies that were interested in a coop deal with ZOpro. Now we are trying to get your supplier agree to make a very small run at the same cost just to cover backers instead of a mass production like we planned. Timing this with our other project getting fulfilled and moving to retail will give us the cash we need if our supplier agrees to terms.
So, I had pledged the $70 upgrade proof reward, and I am at the point here where I am more than likely going to be getting rid of the iphone 5 soon. So, rather than getting 2 zopro's when and if they do come to market, can I just get two full sets of the XiStera system? I would like to get some use out of the money that I invested here, even if just for a month or two, with a different project than I had initially backed.
Even in the best case scenario the iPhone 6 will be In stores by the time we receive the case
This is a fail, no way you should be allowed to run another Kickstarter until people have their money back or a product they can use. I've said it before this is the first Kickstarter I backed and that's unfortunate since I haven't wanted to throw my money at others.
If you do ever get anything made, it can go straight to the bargain bin since it would be so far out of date.
I contacted Kickstarter to see what could be done about this project as you are in clear breach of their terms of service. Their response was pretty weak and they didn't really have any urgent to pursue this project so I think we can safely say our money is gone.
We live, learn and move on from failures.
Refund. Now. Two years and no product = major failure.
Just putting this out there....
Gizmodo just tweeted the following;
The government is trying to hold Kickstarter scammers responsible http://t.co/dfN3VqcNiB http://t.co/KAXjKMoCm2