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Hi guys, a link to the 0.9v PDF has now been sent to your Kickstarter Inbox.
@Scott M - I’d imagine one factor (of several) would be licensee requirements. Chaosium (or any IP Holder) would want to make sure a draft that’s released is using said stuff correctly per their contract with the licensee in regards to rules and whatnot.
Another factor, at least in my mind, is that crowd-proofing is a huge undertaking. Imagine all the backers emailing over and/or commenting here (or on a specific update) typos, suggestions, formatting issues, rule concerns, punctuation usage rules, etc. And then it’s up to someone at Stygian Fox to sort through all the different formats it’d be sent to them in, deciding what changes are necessary and/or even possible (or even legit as some people would suggest corrections to things like MOV while not taking Age into account) before changes are made...so it’s definitely easier if it’s 99% of the way there already. I think the fact that Stephanie still allows crowd-proofing is a testament to her sincere desire to only put out the best products possible.
Q) Why not share the current PDF as a "beta" and crowd source final proofing?
I'm happy to wait, BTW, mainly curious about this process.
I kickstarted FSLN at the level where I was entitled to a hard copy of TTWLB. For some reason I never received it earlier, and worked it out to receive it now. Once I pointed out the issue, Stephanie and team rectified the problem quickly. Read all the comments below and you will see the history of my request.
TTWLB is a finished project from maybe a year ago...no surprise that they got it.
No surprise that they would comment on getting it.
Really no surprises here.
It's weird seeing comments here that people have received fulfillment on other ks projects when other people on the same project are still wondering when their fulfillment will come through.
Looking forward to the PDF!
The .pdf is close.
So very, very close.
Stephanie - Got the hardcopy of TTWLB today! Thank you so much for the followup and handling the issue so quickly. As an aside, I've started reading the first adventure and Wow!! I am loving it (and totally creeped out by it too) - Looking forward to FSLN more than ever. Thank you!
So any news on the PDF?
Hi Steve, sorry, it completely slipped my mind. Sent!
You should have a shipping confirmation email from DriveThruRPG in the next few days.
Hi @Stephanie & Stygian Fox - any update on my missing TTWLB hardcover? You were looking into it a week ago. Please let me know and thank you.
Thank you @squamous I appreciate the response. I was just curious with the newest book ending.
Zachary, if your question is, will FSLN be finished before New Tales is done, book-wise? Oh, most definitely. I've plugged in all the corrections from lists that both myself and Chitin have compiled; there are a couple of last minute tweaks to one handout and one art piece that I need, and I need to put together the frontispiece and back pages. I should have all of this done, and the book ready to go to the printer (pending Chaosium's approval, natch), in a week or two at most.
As NTMV finishes tomorrow, that's unlikely. We've discovered that adding two maps would be helpful so ill be drawing those. I *think* that the FSLN PDF might be out within a week or two. That said, not all of the remaining work is down to me. I can't seeing it being longer than that, though.
Will FSLN be all wrapped up before Tales of the Miskatonic Valley finishes? Or will we see more delays when the new project takes attention away from FLSN? (Genuinely asking questions, not trying to be an asshole. I just didn't know how else to phrase my questions).
Thanks Stephanie, appreciate the follow-up. Let me know if you need anything from me to resolve this.
...and a new prescription for these darn glasses...
Whoops... I stand corrected...I thought he was referring to FSLN...
My bad...think I’ll go find some cookies...
...er... Sorry to disagree with Pandarian but the copies of TTWLB went out almost immediately. I'll take a look and resolve the issue for you, Steve.
Nobody has gotten them...yet.
Hi guys - I practically forgot about this KS... it's been so long... anyway, I was just checking my please and noticed I am a Protector level backer, yet I never received my Hardcopy of the Things We Leave Behind - which was supposed to be shipped a while ago. Did anyone else get their copy, or was mine forgotten?
** From the Protector Pledge level - (The hardcopy of The Things We Leave Behind and it's supporting play aid PDF will be sent as soon as the Kickstarter campaign funds clear, normally 20 days after campaign end).
Thank you for the update, Badger.
Hey everyone, Badger here. I wanted to give you all an update on how things are progressing. I recently did an editing/proofreading sweep of FSLN, and finished putting in my list of corrections. We then sent the book out to a third party, who put together their own list. That batch of corrections is in the process of getting plugged in. It's going fairly quickly, but there are a lot of little things to tweak (the list is 27 pages long!). I'm hoping to get them all done in the next few days.
Meanwhile, the maps are almost done; Stephanie is creating them as fast as she can. One piece of art needs to be modified, as pointed out by our eagle-eyed proofreader. I'll have that in hand very soon as well.
After that, we'll do one final sanity check, and send the pdf off to Chaosium for approval. :)
A player version of the maps in PDF format solves my problem as well. I am perfectly able to adopt it to VTT myself as long as the map itself does not contain embedded spoiler text :)
Karl- unfortunately, specifically tailoring play aids and maps for VTT is outside of the remit of our license.
Ben- Thanks! And yes, I'll be doing a separate pdf with keeper and player versions.
Quick question. Are you doing a separate player handout booklet in pdf? Those are really useful. :)
Really excited that this is coming together! Looks fab! X
Regarding the maps: If at all possible could you please provide map versions without text and legend for use in VTTs?
Yes,an update would be cool.
Any update? PDF version ready yet?
It would be great to get that update!
Crazy cat: It's mere days away 😊
Yet another new Kickstarter and not even an update for this one? At this point it feels like you're just messing with us.
Noticed you've got a new KS up and running - looks great.
Does this mean that the maps for FSLN are all done now and that we can expect an update soon on a delivery date for the pdf version to help proof for errors?
Hi Benoit and Zachery, this is my second day back working. I'm doing half days as I'm still struggling with breathing and the pain. That said, I'm feeling ok in myself and I'm getting better every day 😀
The maps for FSLN need completing (there are four remaining) and I'm currently using my half days back to do those. Apologies for the wait.
Hello, any news ? Thanks
Any new news for a monthly update?
All the best, Steph! Recover well.
Best wishes to Stephanie.
Thank you Badger!
Hope you feel better soon Stephanie!!
Badger here. I got permission from Stephanie to post this update. First, the bad news: Stephanie has been in the hospital recently, and because of this, will be unable to do any work for another week or two. Obviously, this will delay the completion of the maps by a bit.
The good news is that the layout is almost complete. At this point, I'm awaiting one final piece of artwork from Reuben, and the last of the maps from Stephanie. All other work, except for some bits at the beginning of the book, and the collection of maps and handouts at the back of the book, are completed. Once I have those final assets, I can finish everything off, and send the whole book to Stephanie for approval.
Thanks for your continued patience. We're getting very close to the end.
Hi Thomas, please read the update fully. The PDF for this campaign is not yet complete but will be soon. Badger is very patiently waiting for me to finish the maps.
Hi, I backed FSLN with a pdf-only pledge. But I did not receive any files yet. I do get the updates from Stephanie, though. According to the last update, the pdfs have already been sent out. Could you please confirm?
Hi, ill post an update tomorrow including a map from one of the scenarios.
Is it time for our monthly update yet? It's been almost 4 weeks since the last update. This project has been closed for over 11 months and is 8 months past due. Is there any real update, possible release date, anything?
Any ETA as yet? Is layout nearly done, are we getting closer to a PDF and initial proof version?
Is it possible to upgrade my pledge from PDF to Hardcover + PDF? Or is it too late in the game for that?
I missed backing TTWLB, but got it as an add-on in this KS. Given the new outlook on KS backer exclusives at Stygian Fox, will l be able to purchse the TTWLB "The Grand Plan" anytime soon?