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Estimated delivery Sep 2012, yet I'm still waiting for the Linux port I backed this project for.
Where is my Linux port?
Is there an official message about physical rewards?
Hey, Stained Games! Looks like you're in good company! Do some of these sentences look awfully familiar?
Yes, she's the one behind the handheld Spectrum scam. At least she made a follow-up to her promise of refunds that would never materialise. You never tried to get out of it. You just ignored it!
Heh, speaking of experience, this is the norm here, that is what he means.
I'm in the same camp, I kickstopped, it's way to stressful to agonize about gone dark game devs.
@Todd Junker :
Because you don't like how Stainless Games managed this campaign and every other project on Kickstarter is also managed by Stainless Games?
This doesn't make sense...
This project is why I will never invest in another kickstarter project.
I have to correct myself, my notification arrived now. Still not cool.
It seems they added a drm-free key for GOG on the Humble bundle page they previously linked ot the backers. Without an update to warn us.
However it seems it's only one key, I should have more copies of the game but still one drm-free key and the link to gift other copies still don't works.
What's up with you? Where are the physical rewards? At least you could do it official and say that you just play us all, that way we will stop asking you...what a disappointment...
Still no DRM free version as promised. I paid for this and did NOT receive it.
I am about as disappointed with Stainless Steel Software as I could be.
Clearly they do NOT deserve any of the good graces that were heaped upon them by their fanbase.
Stainless steel has, it seemed, rusted clean away.
Just posting my annual reminder that Stainless is operated by scummy liars and thieves, who fail to honor their commitments or even apologize for being the shady bags of crap that they are. You suck Stainless, but then you must already know that by now right? I mean when you look in the mirror you must say to yourself everyday, "Wow what an embarrassment I am, I sure do suck for not fulfilling my obligations, or apologizing, or offering refunds, or doing any of those things that a good company would do. Yep, I, Stainless, sure do suck.".
At this point I'll accept a physical reward of watching someone here kick Nobby in the balls.
Thanks for the one and a three quarters of mediocre games and absolute lack of an honest/open communication regarding the kickstarter campaign I have been a fan since my dad bought me C1, even though I was too young to play it. I have never been more disappointed in a game developer (even with Gearbox/3D Realms and Duke Nukem Forever). And that's not because of not getting the rewards, it is because of the cowering silence you guys have emitted through all of this.)
I'm not mad at you, just severely disappointed.
FUCK YOU, Carmageddon is dead.
Haha, you're all like some old grandma who after decades can't believe she's just been robbed.
I am still awaiting rewards from kickstarting your campaign. I put into have a Mac copy of the game, but from previous discussions this will not happen for a while.
As I have not had anything (or even played the beta) - can someone please sort this out asap!
Can you confirm my details too - to check shipping address etc and what rewards I'm entitled to,
Another person stuck in reward limbo here. Does anybody know what's going on with this company anymore? Bankruptcy? Run over by a combine harvester? Hiding in a fallout shelter until we all go away? Surely at this point simply telling the truth is the best option? I know it might be unfamiliar territory, but they can give it a go, right?
STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE GODDAMN GAME! I HAVE WAITED FOR YEARS NOW. WHERE IS IT!
Meh. I assumed that at this point the physical rewards were a write off and moved on. Risks of crowd funding ain't it...
HOW MANY DECADES DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE DVD OF THE MAC VERSION??? HOW ABOUT A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST STAINLESS?
Still waiting for my physical rewards.
Man I've been waiting patiently for years to get my $150 rewards, the last official response I got said they are coming, but it has been ages and I haven't heard anything since. Please Stainless, if you don't intend to fulfil the rewards just put us out of our misery and let us know rather than continuing to string us along :(.
"Stainless said that if they hit $600,000 in pledges before time runs out, they would commit themselves to creating a Linux port of the game, as well as a MacOS port. Today they made it official: the fundraising has come so close to netting $600K overall, with a few more hours left to go, that they are officially committing themselves to creating a Linux port of the new game. PC gamers will get to play Carmageddon 4 first, with a February 2013 release date. The MacOS & Linux versions will follow the PC version later in 2013"
Mac and Linux Versions in late 2013 HMM 2014 2015 2016 2017 when will we get our refund for undelivered reward.
ZikZak: "Available Now on the App Store and Google Play Store." I cursed them to make very small mobile apps in the future so I'm glad it worked.
So where the hell is my reward?
It seems we're fast approaching the anniversary of Stainless' last communication to backers. Like I mentioned ages ago, when it comes to gaming I'm pretty positive a fellow, but this is getting dire.
I've attempted to contact Stainless via KS, Twitter and their help desk system, asking if the rewards are still a thing. I wasn't rude, but polite and chipper, yet every time the answer was pure, concentrated silence.
It's time to write this one off, I guess. This makes me a sad penguin.
Will there ever be a DRM-free version of the game? I still got no reward ...
I just noticed that Reincarnation isn't even on Steam anymore... I wonder if unused keys can still be entered...
These Stainless thieves been spending our money on other games before doing anything about this fiasco;
Carmageddon Crashers: It’s the antidote to dreary drag strip racing games!
Where is my Mac version of Carmageddon?
ZikZak, I was thinking that too... More money spent on something that didn't involve the physical rewards or anything else they promised and haven't delivered on... Of the 31 projects I've backed, this is basically the only one that has just taken my money and run.
you must be kidding me!
No Mac version, No linux version, No DRM-free version, No physical rewards delivered with many people paying $150 or more for never delivered items. Thieves, that is who operates Stainless Games... Liars and Thieves.
Still want that DRM-free LAN version! Make it happen Santa!
Seriousy disappointed here :(
What we can keep in mind from this campaign is that next time we see the name Patrick Buckland
or Neil Barnden we can simply forget about whatever they say and just run away.
Their company sucks and proofs about how much it does is listed below.
We'll be using Steamworks for our online services on PC & Mac, so we require Steam for online play. However, we can confirm that there will be a non-steam, DRM-free release available to backers at a later date that supports single player and LAN multiplayer only. Obviously, this version won't have those Steamworks features.
This. This was the only reason I backed this project. Where is my DRM free version? Where?
I don't want steam. I never want steam. I am never going to want steam.
At this point I feel very much like I have been bait and switched.
Still waiting for a DRM-free version. It'll probably never happen though.
While the game itself is finally fun and running pretty decently, I am severely disappointed that I paid 150$ for this game.
If I could reverse the charge I would, but it's too late for that now.
@Bob M, Yea this Kickstarter was a blatant rip-off, the worst project I have backed. Instead of delivering on Kickstarter promises, Stainless Games most likely shifted the funds and resources to make the console ports. But that is not what I had intended my money to go towards.
So basically the Linux version and physical goods haven't been delivered, not because of the developer lacking funds or resources, but because they were dishonest and greedy. If they actually had any intentions of making this right, they would have posted an update or comment
Can't believe I pledged to this almost five years ago now. This might actually turn out to be the first Kickstarter project I have ever backed that flat out ripped me off by not at least attempting to fulfill what I pledged for. I guess it was bound to happen sometime.
Here one of the idiots thats 150Bugs for nothing.. NO "KICK in THE BOX"
No Box, no Eagle Car... or other physical Stuff.
Thats very sad. And i was a absolut hyped guy.
Where is the linux version we were promised?
Another 150$ backer here without the physical goodies. That's a shame! Despite being the ones who believed and had faith with the project! Is there anything we can do??
Another 150$-backer here... no shirts, no model, zilch, nada, nothing.
Only the keys for Steam.
@Mike Dennis - Same. Only one I've backed that didn't deliver was Colossal Kaiju Combat, but in that case they had a pretty darn good reason for folding (lead programmer passed away). On the most part the Kickstarted games have been a delightful - faves being Republique and Satellite Reign.
@Mike Dennis oh, I can give you a list if you wish, and I assure you none of them looked sketchy in any sense at the time. I get the feeling the "golden days" of Kickstarter are over (if they ever existed at all) as lots of experience surfaces about how the typical KS project is likely to end up - delivering significantly sub-par results, no results at all, or simply being an outright scam, and definitely over budget and way, way over deadline in either case. Successful delivery is not unheard of but about as likely as winning the lottery. I think in a decade or two crowdfunding will either need to transform completely getting much more responsible and accountable, or it will be well and truly dead...
Sounds like e might have a class action suit here folks... we've been ripped off. This is outright fraud.
I backed for 150 bucks, and apart from the steam keys, I got none of the rewards.
They aren't the only ones who've ripped off their fans, I've had devs abandon their projects, release DRM locked games (when promising otherwise) ask for more money when asking to switch platforms, etc. Lots of slimeballs out there. And I agree I back much less than I used too and mostly to devs who have delivered in the past. Had to buy the console version (used thankfully) to actually be able to play this game, that's ridiculous.... >=/
This Kickstarter is still the ONLY ONE that I've had where the creators just screwed over the backers and didn't fulfill the rewards of most of the backers. I'm pretty careful about the projects that I back, and even more careful after Stainless did this to us.
Still waiting on Stainless to fulfill their rewards tiers.
The DRM-free version is still absent. Last I heard not all platforms offered are covered either.
Considering the amount of time that has passed and the continued refusal of Stainless to communicate with their backers I've now moved on to warning my friends and fellow gamers about them.
If they ever shape up and actually deliver on their promised rewards options I'll be sure to let folks know that as well, but I'm not holding my breath.