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This is a Panda-themed gambling game about getting away with lying and laughing about it. Expansion and new base sets available.
This is a Panda-themed gambling game about getting away with lying and laughing about it. Expansion and new base sets available.
648 backers pledged $61,446 to help bring this project to life.

Upgrading Components

Posted by David Sirlin (Creator)

I’m going to make a change with the stretch goals that benefits you all.

Pandante is such a great game that I want to put out the best version I possibly can components-wise, no matter what funding level we reach. Even if we only raise a portion of what’s needed to fully fund this print run, I’m willing to pay for the component upgrades that I think Pandante and Flash Duel should have. I’m hoping that eventually positive word of mouth about the games will make that a worthwhile choice.

Golden Panda Coin. This coin is so hype! When you feel it in your hands, it has a coolness factor that makes you want to win it in the game. I didn’t know what the quality of the coin would be when we first started out, but now that I have physical samples and I can see how great it is, we just have to have it even if it costs me a lot.

Also, it's huge. One player thought it should be called a gold medal, rather than a coin!

  • Pandante deluxe will have the 2” metal coin, no stretch goal for it, you just get it.
  • The $25 Pandante expansion will also have the same metal coin.

There’s also Flash Duel. I’m pretty happy about the adjustments to the core system we’ve done. Removing the last-hits mechanic makes it simpler to explain and more focused on the back and forth part of the game that you’d hope was the emphasis anyway. Balance is in a better state now too. I want to follow that up with another component upgrade:

Flash Duel will contain 21 character standups, rather than pawns. No stretch goal, you just get it.

And there’s more. I want to thank all you kickstarter backers, I’m so grateful for your support. So I want to include the 3 extra Pandante casino cards for all you kickstarter backers (not part of the retail products) at all levels. That means if you get the deluxe version, standard version, or the expansion, you’ll get these 3 extra casino cards. The extra cards are a bit crazier than the rest of the casinos, so I bet you’ll enjoy that.

Your Help

I’d like to ask you for some help. Not because of stretch goals though; I’ll just build most of those in with just a couple stretch goals left for Flash Duel things. (My own personal stretch goal is: $100k, not come out negative after this print run and shipping costs.) Just out of the goodness of your hearts, I thought you might want to help make the project more successful and spread some Pandante joy. I know a lot of you have the print-and-play version—hundreds of people downloaded it for free last weekend—so if you happen to play it, post your thoughts somewhere before the campaign ends. It could be on Boardgamegeek, or anywhere else. Let us know if you do!

Here’s some great examples so far:

Also, can you tweet some funny images (or clever text) about Pandas to #LyingPandas or #Pandante? I actually don’t know if that would help at all, but it would be fun and I was looking forward to laughing at some of them. ;)


Here’s the bottom line summary:

  • Pandante deluxe will have the 2” metal Panda Coin
  • Pandante expansion will have it too
  • Flash Duel will have 21 character standups rather than pawns
  • All pledge levels (of $25 or more) get the 3 extra Pandante casino cards, for backers only (not part of the retail product later)
  • You post your thoughts on the game somewhere, or tweet to #LyingPandas or #Pandante

Thanks for your support everyone!


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    1. Eric Engstrom

      That's really cool, man. Panda Power!

    2. David Sirlin 6-time creator on

      Thanks Tom and Vivienne!

      Albey: Yeah I do like to avoid kickstarter exclusives, though I've had minor ones before like this. It hurts pretty bad when people don't back a project because "why not just wait for retail?" That's especially an issue here when we're fighting to even fund the project at all in the first place. So I thought a little incentive to pledge now rather than later was in order.

    3. Julien R. Nathan Vial on

      i tweet it this morning and i receive a link :
      Dunno if you were aware but could be interesting ?

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      Vivienne Raper on

      Wow! Very cool. Thanks!

    5. Tom Howard on

      Wow... above and beyond, really. I'll do what I can to get the word out!

    6. Albey Amakiir on

      Awesome! I'll be linking this project to my friends. Weren't you avoiding Kickstarter exclusives last time, though? Has your perspective on that changed with the three extra casino cards, or am I misunderstanding something?