Use this space to cheer the creator along, and talk to your fellow backers.
Have a question?
I'll be in NY this summer. How can I sue him? Anyone wants to join me?
Silly me for thinking Kickstarter was fun. It was for some time until I ran into this thief and he stole money from 5685 other people. I also backed a game called "Scale" and the creator stole our money and clearly abandoned the project. At least I only backed him for $10.
200 fucking dollars. I want them back.
FUCK YOU CHRIS WALKER
FUCK YOU KICKSTARTER
The reply from Kickstarter:
"Thank you for following up with us about the status of this project. I’m sorry you’ve been experiencing these issues with communication. We've reached out to the creator again with a reminder of their obligations to their backer community, and have forwarded along your concerns and those of your fellow backers. While we're disheartened that they have not yet updated backers on the status of their project, we're unable to force them to do so — it's the creator's responsibility to communicate and complete the project as promised.
Backing a project on Kickstarter is an expression of trust and can help lead to the creation of new and exciting things. But it’s important to remember that sometimes complications arise that might prevent a project from unfolding as planned — or from happening at all. This certainly isn’t ideal, but we hope that creators and backers will try to communicate with each other through these developments.
Although we are unable to offer refunds, we are constantly working to improve the vetting process for creators and thank you for sharing your experience. We hope you’ll continue to be an active member of the Kickstarter community as we learn and grow.
If you have already reported this project to Kickstarter they don't make it easy to report again. So just send an email to firstname.lastname@example.org . The more, the merrier.
I did that again recently and will update you if/when I get other than their usual facile canned reply.
I'm still here, il check weekly. Il report the project. Is there anything else I can do?
@Simon - you bring up an interesting angle on this fiasco. If you could get someone to sue you, you would have the ability to legally go after all sorts of related information. ...like the whereabouts of CW and more. Hmmm, how can we get CW to sue you?
Once the magical 1 year milestone hits for time passed since Crooked Chris' last update, I propose we do a massive KS report, email Crooked Chris and advise a media outlet campaign.
Everyone make sure to report the project to Kickstarter using the button below the project description. Maybe if enough of us report it, they'll actually do something.
Going on a year since the last update...At what point does Kickstarter decide to say anything?
Where's our update about the watch strap stitching? Or what about the shelf life of the electronic components? Has Chris decided that the spring bars need to be totally redesigned from scratch even though the watch industry perfected them 100 years ago?
In short, fuck you Chris Walker. I will continue to follow you around and post what you did here every time you poke your head up and try to scam more money. You're a thief and a scam artist. There will be a special place in hell for you.
If Kickstarter admits this is dead, can we file the theft as a write off on our taxes?
This is a smartwatch nowadays:
But no, I won't back it. Guess why...
Still can't believe I pissed away $200 on this thief. It's even worse than a thief, since I truly believed in your "dream" to develop an awesome invention, and you clearly had zero intention of producing this. I guarantee you pocketed the money from the beginning and have been living on the interest ever since. You're a charlatan, and I hope you enjoy your life, knowing that the only reason you can eat is because you screwed over thousands of people.
The book Chris Walker wrote about "Getting Started with Netduino" is still available on Amazon as someone recently pointed out. I know that it's old and not likely to get much attention anymore but I posted a bunch of comments in the reviews stating the following:
"I know that this is an old product but should you happen to come across this review, please do not buy this book or anything else from, or associated with, Chris Walker. He scammed over 5600 people out of over 1 million dollars though his "Agent Smartwatch" Kickstarter campaign. He strung backers along for several years posting increasingly meaningless updates in order to carry on the appearance that the project/product was still active and would be eventually completed. That is until he decided that even maintaining that façade was too much work at which time, and without any explanation, he took what was left of the money and ran. He stole our money. Please do not give him any of yours.
If you want to learn about how Chris Walker / Secret Labs stole money from over 5600 people, you can read through over 11,500 comments (as of posting) here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/secretlabs/agent-the-worlds-smartest-watch/comments
Or you can read a write-up about it here: https://www.wareable.com/crowdfund/the-saga-of-the-agent-smartwatch-2434"
The comments may never be seen, they may get deleted. But just one more opportunity to try and ensure the legacy of this disaster hangs around Chris Walker's neck for as long as possible.
you are so right we should pursuit kickstater for steeling because they should have done what indigogo did here
Indigogo there move to help their backers
@Michael: The Walking dead!
This project will be here forever, because Kickstarter doesn't care at all
Where is Chris Walker?
New post here:
Very frustrating - is anyone still in touch with Lawrence? Perhaps he could shed some light on the situation.
Soo...nothing? Has Crooked Chris kicked the bucket?
So, I've been a complete jerk here and will continue to do so until kickstarter and the buttholes that started this campaign own their shit. So, here goes. FUCK YOU KICKSTARTER! FUCK YOU @Creator. I truly hope everyone that defended this asshole feel stupid for doing it. And to kickstarter, if you really cared about your stupid rules, you would have banned me by now. But you didn't, because you know you are as much to blame as the people that fuck people out of their cash.
Great work on http://www.wilderness-labs.com Simon. Made me chuckle
I've put this project down to experience and another nail in the coffin for no longer using KS. As with everything to be on the crest of the concept (crowd sourcing) is exciting and fun. Then the thieves want some of what they think is easy money and it all goes down hill from there. Chris Walker - thief of a slaves money :-(
I can't wait to go to California this summer and see this scum. Anyone wants to join?
Like other here, I just came across this website www.wilderness-labs.com and it is brilliant. It's not going to help us get our money back, but you might laugh a little which should temporarily stop the flow of tears.
Maybe he actually bought his wife this:
At this point, if I got this from Crooked Chris then I'd be happy. Sure as hell would be useful than an obsolete wrist turd.
The curious case of the missing dehydrator and parts is now up on the site.
If you have any comments, can link to the website, fancy doing some SEO or contributing a blog post feel free to contact me through the website.
Chris Walker should not be allowed to just disappear without any account of where our million bucks went. He should not be allowed to "start again" or make a "fresh start" until he apologises for being a grade A arse and give us some of his ill gotten gains back even if it means he ends up living in a dumpster.
Don't let him get away with it. Let's make sure anyone who searches for Chris Walker, Netduino or Secret Labs knows that he is a wrong'un.
That is tough on wilderness labs inc but frankly they didn't give a damn about us so why should we care that much?
Help me out people.
It is my estimation that Kickstarter should have profited over $50k USD from this fraud. I asked the to return the ~$8.90 per backer they collected as an act of good faith, however I got the typical BS about not being able to offer refunds, projects don't always go as planned, etc. If CW didn't maintain his part of the agreement and Kickstarter was aware of that wouldn't that mean that Kickstarter is aiding and abetting fraud? It doesn't sit well with me that Kickstarter is knowingly and willingly profiting from fraud. I will never back a Kickstarter project again.
It's amazing this dude got over $1 million and no response. No following up from Kickstarter. Nothing at all.
@Simon He's either really stupid for buying the Netduino IP (and all of CW's problems) or he's got one heck of a legal shield from the nightmare... It'll be interesting to see how this plays out
Wilderness Labs... Sell whatever stock, cabinets, and capital used from funding in those project and return to the investors.
Chris Walker... Rott in hell. I hope we never run into one another.
@Simon I've just came across www.wilderness-labs.com. Keep up the great job! Hilarious.
Oh goody, if he's bought Secret Labs then responsibility for the project falls to him, kinda like Fitbit and Pebble. Then he cancel the project, and the shitstorm publicity will poison the Wilderness Labs brand.
Until you're served with legal papers, tell em to go to hell.
Feel free to join in.
for anyone interested an update on Wilderness Labs Inc.
Bottom line - WL inc have acquired Secret Labs and Netduino off of Chris. However they don't appear to be taking any responsibilities for the Kickstarter disaster.
This I find odd as the Dehydrator Chris bought with our money may now be owned by Wilderness Labs Inc. I don't know because nobody will tell me. However if they have taken the assets but not the liabilities I don't know how that could be legal. It wouldn't be in the UK so how about in post truth 'Merica?
Also as the project is still "live" then surely Secret Labs has the responsibility to update and deliver.
It appears that the owner of Wilderness Labs Inc knows Chris Walker well - so much so he is one of the few on the planet that actually wore a test version of the AGENT watch.
He is, like his mate, threatening me with legal action over the website so any advice or help is appreciated.
One thing I can promise - the content posted on there (unlike on here) will always be available. That is the great thing about facts and opinions on the internet - it never has to go away.
Had an interesting email today from someone who claims to have purchased the IP of Secret Labs (what IP?) and also the Netduino brand. He claims that his company established Wilderness Labs to rescue Netduino and that Chris Walker has nothing to do with the business. The email alleges that they were going to make an announcement next month but weirdly their suppliers know about my website and it is harming their business.
All this amounted to "your website is wrong so cease and desist" with a demand to take it down.
The weird thing is that the url that the email came from doesn't link to any business nor does it have a live web presence. Smells fishier than Chris Walkers mum.
Anyone want to lend a hand?
Is there no way to contact all the people with pledges to this project to start a class action lawsuit or anything?
there's over 5600 of us, and we've collectively paid a million dollars, surely there's a legal way to deal with scammers like Chris?
Hahahaha comedy gold: www.wilderness-labs.com
It amazes me that when I backed this watch it was really going to be one of the smartest watches I'd ever owned. As time went on I got the Pebble then later the Apple Watch. Now if I was to receive it I'd be happy I got something but honestly would I even wear it?
I'm sad that I no longer use KickStarter. We the backers are guaranteed nothing.
If I was a scammer....I'd make some really great graphics, cool video, and promise the world.
But mama didn't raise a crook.
I feel this article from the extremely reliable news source The Onion sums up Chris Walker...
Ha -- love the site -www.wilderness-labs.com
Thanks Simon - love the site at www.wilderness-labs.com.
Hi to all.
Feel free to comment on www.wilderness-labs.com - Every click helps. Will soon be making a few changes to make it clearer about what Chris has done.
If you wish to write a blog post or help with SEO then please email agentisdead at gmail dot com
For those still asking for refunds. It aint going to happen so stop wasting pixels. Chris is simply spending the money he has left on this project and likely billing it as consultancy/project management or something equally fraudulent.
Hope the guy goes bankrupt but sadly these sorts rarely see any justice until someone finally smacks him.
@lumar, yeah quite a difference. No doubt it helps that they are unarguably pre-orders (not pledges) and the dealings are with the company (not a crowdfunding platform).
Also, the San Francisco DA is suing them for misrepresentation. Not a good year ahead for that mob.
Here is another crowdfunding campaign that went kaput. The difference is that they actually will issue refunds to each backers: http://newatlas.com/lily-drone-shuts-down/47363/
@David, which face?