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The COOLEST is a portable party disguised as a cooler, bringing blended drinks, music and fun to any outdoor occasion.
The COOLEST is a portable party disguised as a cooler, bringing blended drinks, music and fun to any outdoor occasion.
The COOLEST is a portable party disguised as a cooler, bringing blended drinks, music and fun to any outdoor occasion.
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    1. Phil Gardner on November 21, 2014

      @consumer speaking of personal attacks against people, do you think fellow backers should be researching each other online and attempting to post personal information online about each other?

    2. Conscious Consumer on November 21, 2014

      The policing and personal attacks @Al, myself, as well as @Six for making comments that are not agreeable with other backers is a waste of energy*. Instead of trying to rip on your fellow backers, stay on location and contribute to their ideas or give your own idea by staying on location and making it a debate, not a petty exchange of ignorant rants, and redundant responses about how we have know right to comment since we only paid a $1.

    3. Conscious Consumer on November 21, 2014

      @Andrew

      Nice hit and run.

      Interesting that Ryan got away once again without articulating any dates or deadlines. Hopefully he can pull through and get them out to backers close to deadline.

      When it comes to peoples reaction to any ideas that are not excessively optimistic, it has been highly interesting gauging the responses by those who have self appointed themselves as spokesmen for Ryan's project. The policing and personal attacks @Al, myself, as well as @Six for making comments that are not agreeable with other backers. Instead of trying to rip on your fellow backers, stay on location and build on their idea or give your own idea by staying on location and making it a debate not a petty exchange of ignorant rants, and redundant responses about how we have know right to comment since we only paid a $1, even though we totally do.

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      Andrew Stevens on November 20, 2014

      Can we have a big round of applause for Frank Cruz and Six? Proving once again that it's still possible for grown men to take time away from their busy lives...just to step into an elementary school sandbox, and fling shit at each other.

      Please continue, I don't have cable.

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      Frank Cruz on November 20, 2014

      All I know is that the blue clooset...wow that thing looks awesome! Can't wait to get it

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      Frank Cruz on November 20, 2014

      @six, what are your thoughts on this update and the coolest being featured by Time magazine? Haha, must suck to be wrong all the time

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      Zilpha Haycox on November 20, 2014

      Ryan has done an incredible service to all of us to keep us informed of all progress!
      Here's to you Ryan! Happy Thanksgiving

    8. Team TROBO on November 20, 2014

      Coolest Gang,

      Congratulations for landing in Time's 25 Best Inventions of 2014!
      The prototypes are gorgeous! :]

    9. Donna doucet on November 20, 2014

      I'm getting so excited! Can't wait to hug my coolest cooler in person. Momma's waiting for you in da swamps and bayous of louisiana !

    10. TechyBeemer on November 20, 2014

      It's looking fantastic! Thanks for the update guys…

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      Seth on November 20, 2014

      I have to ask...I can only assume that the blender hole has a cover to put over it when the Blender is not in it right? So that sand or anything doesn't get into the gears and ruin it?

    12. Nicole Resnick
      Superbacker
      on November 20, 2014

      Brady the color selection comes in the backer survey we should be getting in the next 2 weeks

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      Brady Herrmann on November 20, 2014

      Does anyone know when we can select the color?

    14. Martin Sanchez on November 20, 2014

      Thanks for the update. Look forward to seeing the end product. Look even more forward to the fabulous margaritas I'm going to make when I use this at our next outdoor party.

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      Brian on November 20, 2014

      New update, please stop with all the bitching back and forth, either wait for it or shut up!

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      Daniel
      Superbacker
      on November 20, 2014

      @Six posts a blog on 8/25/2014 about this project. At the same time he also backs this project for $1 so he can then paste his blog as a comment 4 days before the end of the funding period. Would he had even seen this project if it had not raised over $10 million?
      Now that the project is funded and the real backers are waiting for the coolers, why does he keep bothering us with the same details over & over?

    17. Phil Gardner on November 20, 2014

      @Six, once again may i direct you back to the kickstarter community guidelines - specifically one seemingly named after you:

      Don’t be a jerk.

      Conversation is an essential part of our community — we encourage backers to talk to creators and to talk to each other, especially when they have questions. All we ask is that those conversations stay honest and considerate. Don’t post obscene, hateful, or objectionable content. Don’t post personal information. Don’t post copyrighted content without permission. If you don’t like a project, don’t back it, simply move along. Please always have respect for our shared space and the other folks visiting it.
      -------------------------------------

      Once again, don't be a jerk, if you don't like it don't back it, and don't post personal information. Even though you were incorrect about who i was, you still attempted to post personal information about me, my career, my credentials, and called my integrity into question.

      What part of "don't be a jerk" are you not understanding?

    18. Phil Gardner on November 20, 2014

      @Nicole, they will send out a survey soon, presumably by email, or email instructions on how to get set up with it. As we understand it, they are still testing the survey.

    19. Phil Gardner on November 20, 2014

      @Six, wrong philip gardner, i'm neither an engineer, nor did i write a 25 page paper on anything to do with project management.

      Now i'm asking you outright. You've called me a shill, now you're calling me a hypocrite (because of you're incorrect google search) and seemingly you're trying to destroy my credibility? As a backer? as somebody excited for a cooler?

      What the heck do you want? what are you trying to prove? Why are you trying to be perry mason of kickstarter?

    20. Nicole Blackburn on November 20, 2014

      Can someone help me with pledge manager, I can't figure out how to sign up or sign in. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

    21. Six on November 20, 2014

      @Phil Gardner I'll steal a quote from your own, now defunct blog "Check your sensitive feelings at the door" - Man up and stop playing the victim. Relying on the narcotizing effect to misdirect people into a spiral of silence are pointless.

      As far as your credibility goes, based on your 155+ comments, for a guy who wrote a 25 page paper, "All We Want is Better Projects - Why So Difficult? it sure looks like you talk out of both sides of your mouth - to what end, I don't know and honestly don't care.

      Several of the points you wrote about, such as the difficulty managing complacency which can manifest in any stakeholder; the lack of grasp of cause and effect which lead to the rejection of best practices; myopic views; the most harmful faulty paradigms such as compartmental thinking, excessive value of tradition, due diligence is undue and excessive optimism and lack of accountability are the very same points we are bringing to the forefront - and that you are the poster child for.

      You are well aware of the risk of setting unrealistic expectations - It's time you take your own advice and step back, look at the big picture and demonstrate some proactive behaviour instead of the contradictory "wait and see" rhetoric you have been spewing.

      Once again for your edification, my comments began here on 08/25/14 "https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryangrepper/coolest-cooler-21st-century-cooler-thats-actually/comments…

    22. Phil Gardner on November 20, 2014

      @consumer: his "warning" was on his blog, not in here. Yes it was 4 days before the end of the pledge period, but it was not in a place where many backers would see it

      As for the tap dance around whether or not it was hypothetical or directed at me, like I said this all could have been cleared up with 'no I do not think you're a shill, sorry for the confusion, I can see now how you got that impression but that's not what I meant' but rather uou and he tap dance around the matter. This isn't a court room, this is a community of backers discussing the project. I felt he called me a shill, and he's never retracted it in the previous 10 times I've voiced that concern.

      For people so intent on communication, you guys are horrible at communicating yourself

    23. Conscious Consumer on November 20, 2014

      +1

      "Six about 7 hours ago
      "I think there is a serious communication issue being ignored by Ryan and his team."
      "never in my career would I expect to be excused for failing to notify my clients about jeopardized delivery dates, development issues, etc. I would have been on the hook for providing a mitigation plan, new schedule dates and regular status updates on progress (whether good or bad). Once "commitments" are missed (and I use quotes because I realize they are delivery estimates) I don't think it is unreasonable to be given at least weekly updates addressing specifics on various delivery items that were or are due."
      @Jack Daniels brings up some great points, he obviously has built his career on high ethics, accountability and delivery.
      Where the disconnect occurs regarding Ryan Grepper's intent lies in a video interview he gave where his views of crowd funding are specifically stated:
      "you're leveraging a network of strangers to fund your project. They're not giving you a loan; they're not taking equity in your company; they're not investing. It's basically money that never has to be paid back."
      "the beautiful part about crowd funding is the money you get from these strangers, never has to be paid back."
      "think of crowd funding as a pledge drive for your idea"
      None of the comments made in that video lend themselves to establishing his intent to deliver. If he views the funds collected here as "free money" as he details on video, there is no need for him to pay it back i.e. deliver to his KickStarter backers.
      The fact that the majority of support for Grepper comes from Ryan's buddy and "Get rich! Work at home" scheme peddler, Brendon Burchard who offered an inducement worth $997 to anyone "backing Ryan's campaign at any level" provides support for the assertion that there are indeed compensated backers or "shills" in this group.
      The other big supporter and advocate of Grepper is Mark Reyland, the disgraced former Executive Director of the United Inventor's Association of America.
      The internet has many dubious accounts of Reyland's past, most disturbing is how he attempted to steal a member of the UIA's rights as an inventor by manipulating her patent application. http://bit.ly/KS_Reyland
      Lastly, if you watch his Power to the Prototype video, Grepper demonstrates a blatant disregard for ethical conduct. The video he posted on 02/11/2012, demonstrates his luggage scale "invention" - The same product which resulted in him being slapped with a patent infringement lawsuit 09/17/2009. It wasn't his invention.
      In Update 15 he mentions he hired Dragon Innovation to help source Chinese manufacturers which is great, the guys at Dragon specialize in that and excel at their job.- They do not have any bearing on product delivery though.
      Among Dragon's list of Kickstarter clients are:
      Pebble - You can go buy one in any Best Buy or in a vending machine at the airport; but many of the Kickstarter backers, the ones who made it all possible with their $10.3 mil on 05/18/2012 never received theirs. http://bit.ly/KS_Pebble
      LIFX - Another product you can pick up at any Best Buy or Amazon, yet many of the Kickstarter backers who made it possible with their $1.3 mil on 11/14/2012 have not received theirs. http://bit.ly/KS_LIFX
      So yes, for a price Dragon Innovation offers factory selection services and/or project management - Neither of which guarantee Kickstarter backers will actually receive a product even if it is on the retail market.
      So timeline aside, Grepper's history and connections are at the very least questionable.
      Given the fact there are indeed compensated backers/commenters here there is reason to be suspect.
      All of this information was unknown to me back on 08/25/2014 when I published my first thoughts on this campaign. http://bit.ly/KS_Coolest
      As for the ad hominem attacks and the pejorative "trolls", I call bullshit. As I can only speak for myself, the comments and information I post is directly related to the vetting of the project creator and relevant.
      The bullying tactics are childish and counter productive as when all is said and done, there are over 62k people expecting delivery - on time or not."

    24. Conscious Consumer on November 20, 2014

      @Phil

      "@Six i'm referring to October 22, when, after i was the only person to comment subsequent to your post, you questioned what the going rate was for a cyber shill these days. I've called you on it a number of times now, and find it very insightful you reply with accusations now against me rather than "I'm sorry, you must have me mistaken, i do not think you're a cyber shill" which would have been appropriate."

      So your admitting @Six that he never called you a"cyber shill". He simply asked a rhetorical question about how much a shill make, not directing the question at anyone personally. Seems like your trying to take his posts out of context, in a failed attempt to smear his ethos.

      "If you really did care about us, you would have used your $1 entrance fee to voice your concerns here in this comment thread in a timely manner before and during the pledge period rather than posting your concerns on an unknown blog and waiting until after before warning us."

      So your saying he didn't warn people before the project ended? When he clearly started warning people during his first post on August 25th which was 4 days before the campaign ended?

      "Your warnings are zero help, and you're otherwise rude and incendiary."

      So you feel comfortable speaking for all of the 62,642 backers?

      "You copied and pasted everything else, i'm not sure how you missed calling me out as a cyber shill"

      So your honestly saying that everything else he posted was copied and pasted? Exaggerate much?

    25. Phil Gardner on November 20, 2014

      @Six i'm referring to October 22, when, after i was the only person to comment subsequent to your post, you questioned what the going rate was for a cyber shill these days. I've called you on it a number of times now, and find it very insightful you reply with accusations now against me rather than "I'm sorry, you must have me mistaken, i do not think you're a cyber shill" which would have been appropriate.

      If you really did care about us, you would have used your $1 entrance fee to voice your concerns here in this comment thread in a timely manner before and during the pledge period rather than posting your concerns on an unknown blog and waiting until after before warning us. Your warnings are zero help, and you're otherwise rude and incendiary. And rather than accuse me, an apology for misunderstanding would have been appropriate. You copied and pasted everything else, i'm not sure how you missed calling me out as a cyber shill

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      Frank Cruz on November 20, 2014

      By the way your comments about "free money" dude please tell me you really aren't this stupid. Ryan is clearly implying that kickstarter backers do not need to be paid back in the way that a investor would be!!!! Crowdfunding is a new way to make the money to fund your dream or idea without having to give up equity or royalties! It has nothing to do with Ryan's intent to rip us off. It has to do with the difference between crowdfunding and the old school start up way of needed investors. Your lack of knowledge of these things is mind boggling. All you seem to do is copy and paste things out of context, which I really don't think you know what out of context means. Everything you post is just BS propaganda. I just can't seem to figure out why. Get over yourself.

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      Frank Cruz on November 20, 2014

      Six... Run along kid. You don't belong here. You are clearly a loser. We are excited about this project. We knew the risks involved. If you have been burned many times than that is your own stupidity. If ryan runs off with my money, it would suck, but it's on me. That is the risk. I went into this knowing and accepting that as a possibility. You are the type of tool who wants to blame everybody else when something like that happens. Just like a child. Kickstarter is about helping fund a project from the ground up and putting trust into that projects developer/creator. There are crooks who will lie and try to disappear and run with the money. That has obviously happened to you, and it is your fault for failing to do more research. Don't blame the people who ran with your money. You gave it to them. You desire to be some kind of kickstarter jr police man is lost here. What is your purpose? Can you at least answer that question? What would you like the outcome to be from your comments when people read them? Nobody takes what you say seriously because it's just pointless BS to fulfill your pathetic agenda. Whatever that may be. When the survey comes out, you will go hide again like the troll you are. And when February comes and goes you will be back. You have some serious self righteous issues going on. Why do you need to be right so desperately? When I get my coolest next year I will be sure to go onto your kiddie blog just to tell you that you were wrong this whole time. See you then

    28. Six on November 20, 2014

      @Phil Gardner if you want to accuse me of something, you may want to get your facts straight. For your edification, I have mentioned your name a total of 8 times - now 9. Below is every comment I have mentioned you in. Please stop trolling for sympathy and spreading misinformation.

      09/03/14 @Phil Gardner - With all due respect, you have made over 100 comments on the 1 project you have backed - I admire your interesting sense of loyalty to Ryan and your lack of understanding the pitfalls prevalent in crowdfunding are evident

      09/04/13 @Phil Gardner It's a matter of semantics. You are right, it is too soon to determine the nature of this project and I agree it is too early in the game to use the word scam.

      09/12/14 @Phil Gardner "I come up with ideas all the time. But mass production capability is a whole separate matter.

      10/22/14 @Phil Gardner your vast wealth of knowledge and information on Ryan Grepper's plans, Kickstarter and manufacturing are impressive. How remarkable that a fella with supposedly no affiliation of any sort to this creator or project and only 1 backed campaign has so much insight.

      10/29/14 @Phil Gardner This blogger only became a blogger because of a situation similar to this; and sadly I was right about everything I said. - @Phil Gardner What I am saying is that per Kickstarter terms it is the backers responsibility to vet the creator

      11/05/14 @Phil Gardner Google Search: Custom Solo Cup - @Phil Gardner Perhaps you can educate me since you are Ryan Grepper's advocate and spokesman. Can you show my the difference

      I have made a total of 58, now 59 comments here beginning on 08/25/14. Here is a link to the 1st one, you can verify from there. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryangrepper/coolest-cooler-21st-century-cooler-thats-actually/comments…

    29. Phil Gardner on November 19, 2014

      @six said: The bullying tactics are childish and counter productive as when all is said and done, there are over 62k people expecting delivery - on time or not.
      ------------------------------

      I believe it was you who called me a corporate shill and insulted me on a personal level numerous times. If you want to complain about the bullies, you shouldn't be one yourself

      Sorry to say, but none of us saw your "first thoughts" on an out of the way blog days before the backer period ended. It really didn't help us evaluate the project before choosing whether or not to pledge our support. However, congratulations on using this experience to shill your blog for hits

      I'm offended by the fact you feel free to insult me, and make allegations against me simply because you pledged your $1 for the right to complain. I'm using my real name, how about you?

    30. Six on November 19, 2014

      "I think there is a serious communication issue being ignored by Ryan and his team."

      "never in my career would I expect to be excused for failing to notify my clients about jeopardized delivery dates, development issues, etc. I would have been on the hook for providing a mitigation plan, new schedule dates and regular status updates on progress (whether good or bad). Once "commitments" are missed (and I use quotes because I realize they are delivery estimates) I don't think it is unreasonable to be given at least weekly updates addressing specifics on various delivery items that were or are due."

      @Jack Daniels brings up some great points, he obviously has built his career on high ethics, accountability and delivery.

      Where the disconnect occurs regarding Ryan Grepper's intent lies in a video interview he gave where his views of crowd funding are specifically stated:

      "you're leveraging a network of strangers to fund your project. They're not giving you a loan; they're not taking equity in your company; they're not investing. It's basically money that never has to be paid back."

      "the beautiful part about crowd funding is the money you get from these strangers, never has to be paid back."

      "think of crowd funding as a pledge drive for your idea"

      None of the comments made in that video lend themselves to establishing his intent to deliver. If he views the funds collected here as "free money" as he details on video, there is no need for him to pay it back i.e. deliver to his KickStarter backers.

      The fact that the majority of support for Grepper comes from Ryan's buddy and "Get rich! Work at home" scheme peddler, Brendon Burchard who offered an inducement worth $997 to anyone "backing Ryan's campaign at any level" provides support for the assertion that there are indeed compensated backers or "shills" in this group.

      The other big supporter and advocate of Grepper is Mark Reyland, the disgraced former Executive Director of the United Inventor's Association of America.

      The internet has many dubious accounts of Reyland's past, most disturbing is how he attempted to steal a member of the UIA's rights as an inventor by manipulating her patent application. http://bit.ly/KS_Reyland

      Lastly, if you watch his Power to the Prototype video, Grepper demonstrates a blatant disregard for ethical conduct. The video he posted on 02/11/2012, demonstrates his luggage scale "invention" - The same product which resulted in him being slapped with a patent infringement lawsuit 09/17/2009. It wasn't his invention.

      In Update 15 he mentions he hired Dragon Innovation to help source Chinese manufacturers which is great, the guys at Dragon specialize in that and excel at their job.- They do not have any bearing on product delivery though.

      Among Dragon's list of Kickstarter clients are:

      Pebble - You can go buy one in any Best Buy or in a vending machine at the airport; but many of the Kickstarter backers, the ones who made it all possible with their $10.3 mil on 05/18/2012 never received theirs. http://bit.ly/KS_Pebble

      LIFX - Another product you can pick up at any Best Buy or Amazon, yet many of the Kickstarter backers who made it possible with their $1.3 mil on 11/14/2012 have not received theirs. http://bit.ly/KS_LIFX

      So yes, for a price Dragon Innovation offers factory selection services and/or project management - Neither of which guarantee Kickstarter backers will actually receive a product even if it is on the retail market.

      So timeline aside, Grepper's history and connections are at the very least questionable.

      Given the fact there are indeed compensated backers/commenters here there is reason to be suspect.

      All of this information was unknown to me back on 08/25/2014 when I published my first thoughts on this campaign. http://bit.ly/KS_Coolest

      As for the ad hominem attacks and the pejorative "trolls", I call bullshit. As I can only speak for myself, the comments and information I post is directly related to the vetting of the project creator and relevant.

      The bullying tactics are childish and counter productive as when all is said and done, there are over 62k people expecting delivery - on time or not.

    31. Grepper on November 19, 2014

      @Jack Daniels, If that question is directed to me, I think that more frequent updates on all aspects of the planning, production and distribution is more than reasonable and should be expected by everyone.

    32. Brian on November 19, 2014

      So you're saying getting more regular status updates on progress is unreasonable?

    33. Grepper on November 19, 2014

      The February 2015 date was the estimate when Ryan thought he was going to build and sell a few hundred units. He had a prototype that he was lugging around to the morning news shows and he was going figure out how to build and deliver them in 6 months. Now he has commitments for 60,000+ units. To think that the timeline wouldn't be affected is asinine and it was disingenuous for the Coolest Team to continue touting that fantasy up to the end.

      Even if the surveys go out over the next few weeks, he will maybe get 75% of the people to respond in a timely manner (based on historic data). This may cause delays because they they won't know what colors to build and they haven't collected all of the shipping costs.

      Manage your expectations for an early 2015 delivery.

    34. Brian on November 19, 2014

      I guess I'm sort of middle of the road. I knew what I was getting into and the risk of delays; that's the nature of the beast. I'm also one of those backers that doesn't have an estimated due date until February 2015. For all I know they will be late ramping up production but then things will smooth out and later delivery date units will be on time after catching up on the early deliveries. Likewise my February due date could be delayed to April or something. As long as I get it at all and within some reasonable time I'm cool with that (granted I'd be irritated waiting going into May and beyond to be honest).

      That said, I think there is a serious communication issue being ignored by Ryan and his team. I've worked in supply chain mgmt as well as project and program mgmt for 20 years. I get that stuff happens that causes delays, but never in my career would I expect to be excused for failing to notify my clients about jeopardized delivery dates, development issues, etc. I would have been on the hook for providing a mitigation plan, new schedule dates, and regular status updates on progress (whether good or bad). Once "commitments" are missed (and I use quotes because I realize they are delivery estimates) I don't think it is unreasonable to be given at least weekly updates addressing specifics on various delivery items that were or are due. They don't need to be long drawn out and creative or special updates; simple and to the point woulds be fine (e.g. T-shirt orders are scheduled for shipping on xx/xx/xx; As of xx/xx/xx 8500 surveys have been sent out and 3200 responses received. ETA to complete survey distribution). It's not rocket science; this should all be data they already have and are tracking. Being kept out of the loop is what drives the nay sayers to troll because there is nothing to use to refute them even if it is just reported data.

      As I said, I'm not going to run around claiming fraud or anything and I'm certainly willing to wait a reasonable amount of time beyond estimation, but I would feel much better having some idea what the current issues really are, what those impacts look like, and what ripple effects are anticipated along with mitigation/contingency plans.

    35. Roger Dahl on November 19, 2014

      Reply regarding the survey from Coolest Cooler copied from their Facebook page today:
      We're testing it now,then we'll be slowly distributing it over the coming two weeks. We've got a lot of people to get through and can't send them all at once, but they are definitely coming. Thanks so much for your patience while we customized a great solution for everyone!

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      Frank Cruz on November 19, 2014

      Not me, but after reading the update again, I think it will take a while before they are all sent out. With 62000 backers, ryan says they will stagger the surveys, so obviously only sending to X amount of backers each day or week or so. I'm sure some people have gotten them already while others might not get it until December. That's just my guess. Not saying that's what will happen. I didn't take his update as everybody would be getting the survey the week after the 6th. Really for there being 62k backers, there only seem to be the same handful of people who post comments here. Hopefully if anybody did receive the survey, they can post that they did. Guess we will see...

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      Jerry on November 18, 2014

      Anyone got a survey yet?

    38. Austin Ramsey on November 18, 2014

      Does anybody know what the requirements are for the charging aspects of this device? I am going to try to find a solar panel cell so that I can plug into it when necessary. Anybody else done any research into this?

    39. Andy "Da Bank" on November 18, 2014

      Wow, a comment that is 100 percent identical to one yesterday. Original........again if you aren't familiar with kickstarter and delays then some may be disappointed.

      Again, I am happy we have fine people giving us all the bad news to prep us. :)

      I am wondering what is their angle? Who are they representing? The doomsayers seem to have an agenda of goodwill to help educate the masses but why? Why do they give so much time to help us. Good for thought.

    40. Conscious Consumer on November 18, 2014

      It's going to be really interesting to see how many coolers are actually delivered to Kickstarter backers come February considering Ryan Grepper's view of crowdfunding sites

      "you're leveraging a network of strangers to fund your project. They're not giving you a loan; they're not taking equity in your company; they're not investing. It's basically money that never has to be paid back."

      "the beautiful part about crowdfunding is the money you get from these strangers, never has to be paid back."

      "think of crowdfunding as a pledge drive for your idea"

      Of course given that Ryan's buddy and "Get rich! Work at home" scheme peddler, Brendon Burchard offered an inducement worth $997 to anyone "backing Ryan's campaign at any level" - it is without question that there are compensated backers or "shills" in this group.

      How many people here intended to give Ryan "free money"?

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      Frank Cruz on November 18, 2014

      @six, I seriously doubt anybody is actually expecting the coolest in February. I'm thinking April realistically. Delays should be expected!! Read the rules and regulations where it says just that. But wait kickstarter is wrong and you are right? You are not getting one. So why are you here? We know what we signed up for with kickstarter and backing a project. We aren't like you dude. We don't think kickstarter is Amazon the way you do. We know that there is risk when backing a project, which you don't seem to realize. You say you have researched crowdfunding for over two years and yet you have zero understanding of the risk involved in it. You just don't seem to get it or what crowdfunding is all about. For some reason you think it's a retail store. Your comments are proof of this. We don't need you here pretending to be the kickstarter police with your bs lies about "laws" and what not. You are lost here. Go find another outlet kid. The majority of the people here who actually purchased a cooler know the risks involved. The others are too clueless to read the rules and regulations before backing, and then the select few like yourself apparently just have nothing better to. If ryan runs off with our money, guess what...Oh well. That is the risk we took when backing a project. The fact that you are here now is just beyond stupid. You can't change people's minds who have already paid and backed this project. So what purpose do you have here? Nobody can get a refund at this point. And when we all get our coolers next year then what? You troll through kickstarter again and find the next project to back a dollar for just to tell people not to trust the creator? Get a life buddy. Hopefully when the coolers eventually get delivered it will show you that you just spent 6 months trolling for zero reason. That you were wrong the entire time. You don't need to come on here every time a estimated date for something has passed. That's why dates are estimated and not guaranteed. You do know the difference right? And as I said earlier, delays should be expected. So why don't you run along and come back in 2016 if we haven't gotten our coolers by then.

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      Frank Cruz on November 17, 2014

      Haha. There they all are. David, six...haha. Impatience....wow. Smh. dudes (or women, that makes more sense) just waiting by their computer counting down the seconds of the week and couldn't wait to post once the week passed. Then we will all get survey, and these dudes will go back into hiding until the next minor delay...

    43. Andy "Da Bank" on November 17, 2014

      Six. Wow you are right , really you are but what is the point? Really, what is your angle? Why are you soooo obsessed with helping everyone? Why the free charity work for all of us naive poor souls? LOL. I thank god every night that I know people are looking out for me.

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      Andrew Stevens on November 17, 2014

      Someone got bored twiddled their thumbs ^.^

    45. Six on November 17, 2014

      It's going to be really interesting to see how many coolers are actually delivered to Kickstarter backers come February considering Ryan Grepper's view of crowdfunding sites

      "you're leveraging a network of strangers to fund your project. They're not giving you a loan; they're not taking equity in your company; they're not investing. It's basically money that never has to be paid back."

      "the beautiful part about crowdfunding is the money you get from these strangers, never has to be paid back."

      "think of crowdfunding as a pledge drive for your idea"

      Of course given that Ryan's buddy and "Get rich! Work at home" scheme peddler, Brendon Burchard offered an inducement worth $997 to anyone "backing Ryan's campaign at any level" - it is without question that there are compensated backers or "shills" in this group.

      How many people here intended to give Ryan "free money"?

    46. Grepper on November 17, 2014

      It clearly said "We’ll begin sending the surveys out next week, but don’t panic if someone get’s a survey before you do."

      Is there a different way to interpret that statement?

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      Segove25 on November 17, 2014

      @Daryl, the update said they "Are coming out ASAP" no mention of a week was stated.

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