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Robotech® RPG Tactics™ is a fast paced strategy battle game that expands on the popular Palladium role playing game.
Robotech® RPG Tactics™ is a fast paced strategy battle game that expands on the popular Palladium role playing game.
5,342 backers pledged $1,442,312 to help bring this project to life.

Gen Con Indy – we leave it up to YOU

First, let me state that all of us at Palladium Books appreciate our Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Kickstarter backers more than words can ever express. I meant it with all my heart when I wrote that, “we could not have done this product without YOU.” I meant it when I said, “ALL of us at Palladium Books, Ninja Division, Harmony Gold USA, and every Robotech® fan who enjoys this product owes you – our Kickstarter backers – a debt of gratitude, and that you should take a bow.”

I also meant it when I said I hope you stop by the Palladium booth at Gen Con so we can shake your hand and thank you personally for making this outstanding product possible.

We completely understand being frustrated and disappointed about the long time it has taken to make and release Robotech® RPG Tactics™. You want this product so bad you can taste it. You wanted it last year! You want it now!!

Us too.

If we could have made and shipped Robotech® RPG Tactics™ last Fall as we originally intended, we most certainly would have done so. I have NEVER lied about anticipated release dates. We were working with the limited knowledge and information we had at each announcement. We honestly and completely believed the release dates ourselves. We spent money advertising them because we believed them. That was our intention.

Time and time again, there have been unavoidable delays we did not anticipate.

As I have stated repeatedly, the creation of a product line such as this is new to us. There has been a lot of new territory to navigate. The learning curve has been steep. As this was a highly publicized and successful Kickstarter, that means all 5,000+ of you have been dragged along with us on that turbulent journey.

You are feeling the agony of the delays, the waiting, the unexpected problems that, normally, only we quietly endure behind the scenes ourselves.

We know how frustrated and upset you feel about everything. We feel the same, many times over. There have been many moments when we have felt like tearing our hair out and screaming to the heavens. We all deal with it as best we can.

Some people say there is no way this should have taken so long. Perhaps they could have done all of this faster and without the bumps Palladium has encountered. I don’t know. What I do know is that Palladium Books and Ninja Division could NOT. That is the simple reality. You don’t have to like that answer. I sure don’t. You don’t have to believe it, either. But it is the truth. We have worked tirelessly and diligently to get Robotech® RPG Tactics™ manufactured as fast as we could. Robotech® RPG Tactics™ has been Palladium’s top priority. We have been doing our best and have learned a lot. Wave One is coming off the production line now and will start shipping soon.

Gen Con Indy

Gen Con Indy is on the horizon. It is the largest gaming convention for this hobby in the country. I announced we are planning to bring some Robotech® RPG Tactics™ product to sell. A few hundred of six items: the main box game, four of the expansion packs (Tomahawk/Defender Destroids, Regult Battlepods, Artillery Battlepods, and Glaug Command) and the rule book. That would mean a few hundred people will get these items before most of the 5,200+ Kickstarter backers, and around the same time as the first backers are receiving theirs in the mail.

That was a tough decision for me to make. Here is how and why I made it:

● We will begin shipping Robotech® RPG Tactics™ to Kickstarter backers before we leave for Gen Con Indy.

● We will have people continuing to prep, package and ship Robotech® RPG Tactics™ to Kickstarter backers while the rest of us are at Gen Con.

● Bringing or not bringing Robotech® RPG Tactics™ to sell at Gen Con will NOT make any difference to shipping to Kickstarter backers. If we were to leave that product at our warehouse instead of taking it to Gen Con, not one single Kickstarter backer would get his or her rewards any sooner.

● Shipping to our Kickstarter backers will take what we estimate to be 3-4 weeks, maybe longer. We are NOT Amazon.com. We can’t ship what we estimate will be 7,000-9,000 packages (those add-ons and exclusives add up) in a few days, even with the upgrades we are making to our shipping system.

● Palladium is NOT shipping to distributors or to retail stores until after all the Wave One Kickstarter backer rewards have left our warehouse.

● We are not selling any Kickstarter exclusives, just the basic items listed above. Only a few hundred people will be able to buy them, as quantities will be limited.

● We have been promising for months that we would have Robotech® RPG Tactics™ product to sell at Gen Con. People have made travel plans, hotel reservations, bought tickets to Gen Con, etc., counting on it being available at Gen Con. We thought we’d have plenty of time to ship to backers before Gen Con, but the product is coming months later than we thought it would. If we could push back Gen Con, we would, but obviously we can’t.

● Gen Con Indy is critical to a successful product launch in the Fall. Having a major game like Robotech® RPG Tactics™ to show, demo and sell is HUGE. It creates buzz, attracts media attention, and is vital to the upcoming big, full scale retail push this Fall. We NEED to do this for the good of the product line. And there is so much more we want to release: more mecha, aircraft and combat vehicles, additional eras of Robotech® and their mecha, and so much more. Isn't this what we all want?

Though I feared making product available to even just a few hundred gamers at Gen Con, I believe the vast majority of you, our backers, will understand why this is a necessity and be okay with it.

Here’s why. The entire purpose of a Kickstarter is to help fund a product that you, yourself, would love to see made and brought to market. It’s about more than getting cool swag before anyone else. It is about funding something YOU want and believe in. To make a shared dream into reality. That’s why it’s called crowdfunding.

Together, we are making the game we have always wanted. And for other people than just ourselves to enjoy. Making and bringing Robotech® RPG Tactics™ to market is the whole point of the Kickstarter, and having it available at Gen Con is a critical part of that effort.

You, our Kickstarter backers, are still getting special rewards for your funding, including those same retail products at below retail prices, plus Kickstarter exclusives that nobody else will ever get, and add-ons that won’t hit retail stores for some time to come. We would only be letting a few hundred people buy (at full retail price) a few items at Gen Con.

I believe we are all working toward the same goal and that most of our Kickstarter backers understand how important Gen Con Indy really is. That our backers might not be thrilled we’re selling a small selection of Robotech® RPG Tactics™ items at Gen Con Indy – but would understand the importance of doing so, and be okay with that. After all, only a few hundred people will join the ELITE Kickstarter backers in getting the product before it hits store shelves. And none of them are getting the goodies and exclusives going to our backers.

Maybe I’m wrong. I’m very sorry if our Gen Con announcement upset, angered or made you feel unappreciated in any way.

You are important to us.

We do respect and appreciate you.

So we are asking for YOUR permission.

We humbly ask, may we please sell some Robotech® RPG Tactics™ at Gen Con Indy? It’s only a few hundred of six items: the main box game, four of the expansion packs (Tomahawk/Defender Destroids, Regult Battlepods, Artillery Battlepods, and Glaug Command) and the rule book.

Post your “Yes” or “No” in the comments on this Update by Monday, July 21st. Please try to restrict your comments on this Update to “yes” or “no” votes, so that we can count them more accurately. There are plenty of other places to discuss your opinions about this voting process, the lateness of the rewards, or anything else.

If the majority of you say “no,” we will NOT bring Robotech® RPG Tactics™ to Gen Con Indy, except for the purpose of display and demos.

I implore you to say “yes.” Please give us your permission. We believe it would be disastrous not to have the small selection of items I've listed available for sale. Not having them will hurt the launch of Robotech® RPG Tactics™ and Palladium Books.

Please make your voices heard. If you are totally opposed to us selling Robotech® RPG Tactics™ at Gen Con, tell us. Do NOT sit back and be silent. Spread the word that we want every backer to make their voices heard.

Anyone who does NOT respond by July 21st, we will consider to be a “yes.”

Some may say that it is not fair to count non-responses as “yes” votes. After all, it may well be that more than half of the 5,000+ Kickstarter backers won’t respond at all. But that would say something, too: That the majority of backers aren't that worried or upset about this. If you are, please let us know. We need to know. All the more reason you need to spread the word and make sure every backer reads this Update and makes their opinion known.

But we sincerely want your clear permission, so if it is okay with you, please vote “yes.”

How to vote. Since this really only impacts the Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Kickstarter backers, only you get a say. That means we need YOU to reply via comments on this Update, where only you backers can post.

  • Please vote once.
  • Keep it simple. All you need to say is “Yes.” or “No.” If you have more to say, please put it after your “yes” or “no” vote, but please keep it to a minimum to make counting the votes easier.
  • Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Kickstarter backers only.

DEADLINE: July 21, 2014. We need your response by July 21, 2014, so we can adjust our travel plans accordingly. If we’re not bringing Robotech® RPG Tactics™, we need a smaller truck, fewer people at the booth, fewer hotel rooms, some of our volunteers will need to cancel their travel plans, etc. PLEASE vote pronto. Thank you.

I don’t know what else to say. I am very sorry for the long delays despite our best efforts. I apologize for any anguish our plan to sell Robotech® RPG Tactics™ product at Gen Con may have caused you.

All we have ever wanted is to create a great Robotech® battle game and figures that Robotech fans like ourselves would love. I think you’ll find Robotech® RPG Tactics™ to be that product. It is an honor and a privilege to be in a position to bring you that game line. And we have plans for much more. Getting that great game into your hands has been a challenge. We are almost there. Please vote how you think is best. Thank so very much for your support.

With sincere appreciation,

Kevin Siembieda
Publisher and Fan Boy

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    1. Grimoire Studios on July 25, 2014

      I couldn't make it to GAMA :( wanted to though

    2. Pedro Barrenechea on July 25, 2014

      To be honest...as of late, unless your one of the big game companies... The distributaries are not interested in stocking you.

      But miss gencon...no one will

      Btw I think I saw them at GAMA...not 100% sure, all the GAMA's have blurred into eachother :p

    3. Grimoire Studios on July 25, 2014

      @Pedro I wouldn't say your opinion means zip. After all, we are all just theory crafting. We may disagree, but they're just opinions, eh?

      I wonder, did Palladium go to GAMA? Origins? I know they missed AdeptiCon (but that was ninja divisions fault for not reminding them).

      As mentioned previously, I don't know many people who sell Palladium products at all. My war game distributor isn't bothering with robotech yet, and I don't think he will at all. GTS Distribution will sell it. Peachstate Hobby Distributions back end was down when I checked so I'm not sure if they will sell it, but probably so. Haven't checked Allied or Southern Hobby. So... Distributors are selling it. Without GenCon.

      I've only seen one store that carried Palladium. the Game Keep in Hermitage, Tennessee (outside of Nashville). But they only had 1 rifts book. In Atlanta, Georgia I haven't seen anyone carry it. I talked to the owner of a big store down there and he won't stock Palladium due to their shenanigans even while the kickstarter was going on.

      That's only 2 states, in big cities, true. But if that's any indication to the rest of the US... They need all of the support they can get. Not by pissing off 400+ backers before they even get their product. I know I won't stock them in my store.

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      John Null on July 25, 2014

      pedro, if they're at gencon or not it's not changing the fact a lot of stores and distributors will not deal with pb. there is only 1 store I know of in the Chicago burbs that actively stocks anything palladium, 1 maybe 2 that'll do a special order warning that it might come in it might not and that's it. I'm not denying gencon's impact but when pb blamed nd for not telling them of adepticon coming around that looks pretty crappy. adepticon is ALL wargames. not sure if they bothered with origins or little wars but I'm sure it was someone else's fault pb didn't know they have to get off their buts and demo the game.

    5. Pedro Barrenechea on July 25, 2014

      Stephen,

      I know my opinion means zip.... But as someone who owns part of a RPG publishing company... Missing GenCon = dead product...

      You miss sales at gencon, miss people picking up the game AT the con... Expect to lose 40% of sales as most distributors will not even order your product.

      Players have zero idea how GenCon effects overall sales... My company has delayed a product an entire year to have 'the gencon boost'

      Which in a small industry like ours can equal death of a new
      Product

    6. Chadwick on July 25, 2014

      For the record, my vote in no way indicates I am willing to wait until later to receive my products. If that is what this vote was really for - to send product to those who will complain or file injunctions, and those who were willing to let you sell at Gencon means they get shoved to the back of the list for deliveries.

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      John Null on July 24, 2014

      Sorry chad dude, you missed the vote, but don't worry due to a underhanded bs rigged vote you still count as a yes

    8. Jorel Levenson on July 23, 2014

      I'm not really feeling like promoting Palladium at my local store lately. I was at the start of the campaign. Now I'd rather not be associated with a company that treats it's customer base so poorly as Palladium does.

    9. Grimoire Studios on July 22, 2014

      I would also like to add. The voting did show majority in favor of selling at GenCon. However, I notice your quotes for "rigging it". It was rigged. It was a stacked deck. It was a stuffed ballot. All 3 of those are synonyms as far as I'm concerned, and I would wager the majority of the people using the word 'rigged'.

      It shows that Palladium didn't have faith in their backers so they made a guarantee win. If they had lost, then they were betting that they were going to piss off over half of their game base. And that was ok.

      Fact is. The vote was a poor choice. They could have not chosen to go to GenCon. They could not have held a vote. They could not have split the community further. It all could have been avoided. Was going to GenCon worth over 400+ (people who voted no, and those who voted yes but think it was a despicable choice to stuff the ballot) swearing off Palladium? Are those "few hundred boxes" worth it? If it is "only a few hundred will have it before you"... "Only a..." Which signifies and insignificance. If it's so minuscule that it shouldn't bother us, then the reverse should also be true. If it's so minuscule then GenCon wouldn't miss it. Also, using "only a..." Is a sales pitch. Using key words to comfort us to still get their way.

      Honestly. I don't think GenCon will make that big of a splash. Us backers would do better with spreading the word. But that can be left to opinion. I could or could not be wrong.

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      David M Brown on July 22, 2014

      @Nick, have you demo'd the game, because every time I did (both at Gen Con and Adepticon) and every time I did I got monkey stomped by Zents whose anti missle system blew my missiles out of the sky. Not a single missile hit once. So I don't understand your reference to the game simulating the good guys shooting down missiles with ease.

    11. Grimoire Studios on July 22, 2014

      @Nick HAH! I needed a good laugh today. My "agenda"? I'll be perfectly honest. I didn't really know the difference between robotech and macross before the kickstarter I thought they were the same. It wasn't until recently I found out that Robotech was a macross hack job. And robotech is a series that hasn't really finished anything since the mid-80s. As where macross has tons of stuff.

      If you like robotech. Awesome. But my infatuation with it is waning. I'll take a finished product over this start stop crap that Harmony Gold/Palladium has been doing.

    12. Nick on July 22, 2014

      Christian, there are a few things you need to consider. The vote was overwhelmingly in favor of selling at GenCon, without the need to "rig it" as you claim. Look at the numbers. 1300-350 is an a$$ kicking.

      You claim they pissed off their backers by wanting to sell at GenCon and that the game won't be a huge success because of it. To that I say BS. The vast majority of backers are not pissed off as evident by the vote conducted here and the comments associated with it.

      As for that miniscule PR gag at GC, you are vastly undervaluing what this means to the game. A good debut and review at GenCon will be extremely valuable to success of the game. Not having it there would be far more damaging.

      Stephen - as for missiles, I wouldn't say that they are easily shot down, but keep in mind that this game is to simulate the show where missiles are easily shot down in every episode by the heroes. And well your view of "a chopped up Robotech" shows your agenda anyways. I'll take Robotech all day every day over Macross and it's sequels (and non-sequel sequels).

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      John Null on July 22, 2014

      so what's taking so dam long for them to officially say they got their way? rdfskull did a good job keeping up with the votes and all wayne has to do is look at the comments which is no where close to 1/2 the backers then say kevin got his way.

      I do have agree with many people on here that after this kickstarter pb will not get anymore of my money. I understand delays but, the good clear communication hasn't been(nd told us of the file issues months after 98% done went to 0, pb needed to say something the second they found out), forgetting other cons that are heavy with miniature wargames was a bad move made worse by blaming the ninjas again(I guess pb doesn't allow looking things up on the internet, just posting useless pics of geese).

      overall I hope pb is around long enough for us to get our 2nd wave then after that other rpg's and mini's will get my attention and money.

    14. Grimoire Studios on July 22, 2014

      I'm still worried about the rules. Apparently blast missiles are worthless as they can be shot down pretty easy (from what I was told from someone who played in a demo). And the whole monster treating rough terrain as deadly terrain doesn't make much sense. Anywho. I'm worried.

      I also no longer care if Palladium does well or not. As stated before, I would rather have Macross instead of the chopped up Robotech.

      But I'm rambling. Short answer is this. I'm done with Palladium. They did lie. They do not value their backers. And they take responsibility for nothing (it's not their fault they missed Adepticon, that ones on Ninja division, remember?).

      Hope they enjoy the one time payment of $600-$700 that I chipped in. They won't be getting more.

    15. Christian Bleier on July 22, 2014

      Nick, this game won't be a "huge success" They ignored every other possible PR chance except for gencon and they thought it is a good idea to piss off their backers just for this miniscule PR gag at gencon.

      But you are right, this whole issue generated buzz, just not the buzz Palladium wants. Almost everywhere the only topic is Palladium rigging the vote and that will stick.

    16. Nick on July 22, 2014

      and there you go. Over 78% of the voting backers voted for selling at Gen Con. That's a landslide margin.

      It's nice to see that 1300 or so backers that took the time to vote, whether you are upset or not, realize that the best thing for the game's success is to generate buzz at GenCon and not to try and spite Palladium or ND.

      As a Robotech fan since 1985, I want this game to be as big a success as possible - more so than my own interests - because I have been waiting for a game like this since the series aired. I demoed this last year at GenCon and really believe it will be a fun game. I can't wait! Let's hope it is a smashing success so that we can get expansions for the other eras.

      Thanks again to the 1300.

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      Jason Ernst on July 22, 2014

      So, since I missed the "vote" and am a bit less than pleased with the communication and being counted as a yes (I'd have leaned towards yes, but counting those that did not vote as a yes is just dirty pool), you've had 7+ months to figure out what you'd do regarding shipping and expediting/upgrading the system for backers, 3-4 weeks (I'm assuming USPS, which makes it a craps shoot for actual delivery on top of that) is a bit ridiculous. Given the other promises and delays, a betting man would wager that the delay will be "or longer" as stated above. Anxious to get my hands on them and get some folks interested/playing, but really soured right now on Palladium.

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      David M Brown on July 22, 2014

      Hmm Flying Frog Productions just sent an update stating that they are allowing limited pick up at Gen Con this year. They to have had some issues and yet have no problem letting backers get product (be it a limited number) and they are also selling a limited number there as well. So I am still confused as to why this can't be done here, even if it is a limited number (first come first serve through e-mail notification before the show).

    19. Louie Tejeda on July 22, 2014

      No, even though it will still probably carry.

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      David M Brown on July 21, 2014

      @Michael very well said I could not agree more or have put it better. I like you had abstained from comments until this latest debacle and it certainly leaves with with concern for the future of this game. Sure I backed it and received product far below retail, but what good is that if it just sits on my shelf collecting dust because the game is dead. Then we all lose.

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      Bliss E. Ojala on July 21, 2014

      Abstain. To not be counted as a yes or no.

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      John Null on July 21, 2014

      take me off the abstain and put me in the NO vote.

    23. Darren Ashmore on July 21, 2014

      @Michael - Perfectly said, and reflective of why both initially voted 'no' but ultimately voted 'yes'.

      I doubt anyone here is completely 'happy' with the way Kevin has managed this (natural issues aside), and I cannot bring myself to blame those who stay with their NOte of discontent - their feelings in the matter cannot be set aside simply because th majority thinks otherwise.

      If the community is divided, it is on the slimmest of margins, but I'd say we all have varying degrees of rancour and disconent within us over the way we have been treated as backers.

      Still, the voice of the community has been heard - and I too am glad that the vote seems to be a clear one, even without need to reel in the stuffed ballot box. The yes majority sends the message of support, but the sheer number of 'no' votes (though a minority) sends another: the sympathy is waning fast. Palladium would do well to take note.

    24. Jorel Levenson on July 21, 2014

      wise words Michael

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      Michael England on July 21, 2014

      Yes.

      I think this is my first comment on here. Over a year since I committed to this project, and I've waited quietly, and patiently, and watched the non-stop vitriol on this site increase with each passing week. And while I have mostly just been disappointed at the late delivery, and even more disappointed at what seems to be ongoing dishonesty with regards to project status, I chose to stay disengaged emotionally and simply wait for the product's eventual delivery.

      I've attended GenCon, and I agree that good press at that event can make a difference to a game's ongoing success. So that's why I voted "yes".

      It was not because of the passive-aggressive plea to the fans, or the obvious insincerity with which it was delivered.

      But if good press and game success is the goal, you need to take an honest look at what you've done here, and what you continue to do. When I say "honest", I mean strip away the excuses, and the useless empathizing, and ask yourselves if THIS is truly the best you can do for the people who committed to a game with an unfinished ruleset and concept drawings to the tune of $1.4 million. Because it's those 5,342+ fans that will make the difference in this game's future success. Sure, no one is happy about the delays, but after the boxes are finally delivered, will they be able to say they were treated well in the end? If your answer is the usual "but they got product below retail prices", then you're still missing the point. And if you can't find a way to resolve this as professionals, it won't be long before everyone is able to get the game below retail, as it's clearanced off store shelves and/or sold on ebay.

    26. Barry on July 21, 2014

      Well, if rdfskull's count is accurate, (and I have no reason to believe it's not) it looks like we have a clear majority "yes" result, with, or without, the non-responders.

      I'm glad to see that the VAST majority of the backers are supportive of the project and it is simply a highly vocal minority that is dissatisfied.

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      Daniel Waugh on July 21, 2014

      Nice. Fill the orders of the vocal crowd first so they will shut up. Like that would happen. It would just switch to how they hated what they got. Fill the orders in the order they were made in the kickstarter. That is fair and I don't care if you love or hate the game.

    28. Khyron's Eye on July 21, 2014

      At the risk of retaliation from fan friend volunteers I vote no. Your going to do what you need to do at Gen Con regardless and stuffed the ballot box accordingly. But we were told repeatedly backers would receive product before anyone else. Now this product is going to change hands two or three times before the people that made it possible even see it. The least you could do is fill the rewards of the No voters first since evidently no other considerations or efforts see being made to staunch the torrent of animosity being generated by PB and the way this kick starter is being managed.

    29. Carl on July 21, 2014

      "the con exclusives from last year would make a nice "thank you for understanding." I'm with Spartacus there

    30. EvilSpock on July 21, 2014

      Yes.

      Not a lot to say that hasn't been said already but I'll add this...

      Creating "buzz" at Gen-Con is not what will make Robotech Tactics successful. Creating a game that has a good set of rules, beautiful miniatures, and ongoing long-term support from the parent company IS what makes a game successful.

      If there had not been so many delays, this entire issue would not have become an issue. All of the backers have been waiting a long time hopefully its worth the wait.

      I will also add, the con exclusives from last year would make a nice "thank you for understanding."

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      Markus Witthaus on July 20, 2014

      Yes

      But still you leave so many questions unanswered. And show a little bit more respect to us , your international Customers. I missed that for a while

    32. Khyron's Eye on July 20, 2014

      I already expected PB would be selling this game at Gen Con since April in an effort to promote it. But I'm not really sure what kind of "buzz" a game that isn't playable out of the box and is available in such limited quantity which will vanish into the rooms and trunks of VIP eBay opportunists is expected to generate. Ironically, those who see the game being carried around will assume some kickstarter backers are just picking up their reward.
      Games that generate buzz are the ones being played all over the gaming rooms and on the floors of the hallways. Games that generate buzz sell by the pallet full 15 minutes AFTER the vendor hall is open to the general public. Games that generate buzz are the ones that are demoed to scores of people in an hour, not a few dozen a day.

    33. Andrew Carter on July 20, 2014

      I waited until the last day to vote, to ensure it would be on of the last you read.Whatever pros and cons there are to selling at GenCon, they are ultimately outweighed by the fact that those not voting will be counted as yes. That is incredibly unethical, and not something I can condone. Therefore I vote no.

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      G K
      Superbacker
      on July 20, 2014

      No

    35. Rdfskull on July 20, 2014

      Not a lot of movement on the last day, but another voting update nonetheless! By my count the vote, as of Shawn Barker, stands at:

      YES*: 1296 (78.45%)#
      NO: 348 (21.07%)
      ABSTAIN: 8 (0.48%)

      As an overall percentage of backers:

      Voted^: 30.92%

      YES: 24.26%
      NO: 6.51%
      ABSTAIN: 0.15%

      It has been a pleasure reading everyone’s thoughtful input and I hope you all found these updates useful. Now over to PB for the final tally!

      *This is a pure count of YES/NO/ABSTAIN (plus a few votes where intention was clear, ie Go ahead = YES, I want a refund = NO). I have not attempted to capture caveats/conditions only votes. Where caveats could not be resolved (ie I vote YES if…but NO if…) I did not record a vote. Where people explicitly say they are changing their vote I have also reflected that in the numbers.

      #Due to the unsophisticated way I am collecting votes (ie plugging them into a spreadsheet 1 at a time), I cannot cross check voters and cannot guarantee that some people have voted more than once, so I am trusting backers honesty to only vote once (plus the group seems to be pretty good at self-policing multiple voters)

      ^This is a count of voters, not total ‘turnout’. I lack the capacity to distinguish between ‘commentary’ posts and those registering a ‘non-vote’. Having read all the posts I would guess the ‘turnout’ count is probably 3 to 4% points higher.

      Disclosure: I voted YES, but this count is as accurate as possible.

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      Shawn Barker on July 20, 2014

      Yes, and I whole heartedly agree with Jeff G! From the beginning of Robotech we have been exposed to many products of The Macross Saga. A few from The New Generation, but hardly any from The Southern Cross. And I know that is because of the popularity of the different sagas respectively, however this is our chance as true fans to finally add something to those sagas of lesser popularity. If we can just be patient, stay the course, and be happy knowing that we all have contributed to the universe that we obviously love. (And it is my understanding that Kickstarter is not a store but a place to give or get contributions.) Then we may finally have a chance to bring out those lesser known mecha, and who knows what other possibilities. I for one would love to get my hands on a version of the AJACs.

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      mac on July 19, 2014

      To echo the comment made by Kapow Ltd , NO to any future palladium KS projects as well. Consider myself no longer a member of your MUCH MUCH smaller fan base.

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      Kapow Ltd on July 19, 2014

      The backers preaching "think long term" are really missing the point. Palladium is on a blade's edge as is, especially before this kickstarter. Yes, they needed this money to keep going, get stronger as a company and fill the bank, but the execution has been nothing but awful. Constant delays, constant promises... and then all those promises instantly broken. There won't be much of a future with the large number of pissed off customers. A relative small fan base just got MUCH MUCH smaller.