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Robotech® RPG Tactics™ is a fast paced strategy battle game that expands on the popular Palladium role playing game.
Robotech® RPG Tactics™ is a fast paced strategy battle game that expands on the popular Palladium role playing game.
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Ninja John to the Rescue!

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We got a treat last night, in the form of several photos posted on Facebook by John Cadice over at Ninja Division, of him assembling half a dozen Regults from the test runs we received last week. He also sent me some higher resolution versions to post, so here they are. As usual, click on the images below to get larger versions. The captions are his, quoted from his Facebook posts.

“Some early sprues, ready to go - only test shots of the bases so far, so please pardon the color discrepancy on the bases - they will ALL be black in final production.”

“Add the tools of the trade - we have had questions about what was needed to assemble basic kits - the plastic is really nice and glues well with both plastic cement and super glue (I used some simple miniature glue from PP) cutters, and a blade.”

“Official start time 1:55 - ..and in my style.. roughly cutting the bits from the sprue - you will see I have set aside different piles here with paired legs (shown on sprue) hip segments, heads/cockpits, feet, etc. I have opted to leave the lasers on the sprue - they are fiddly, and need to get the big work done before I worry about them.”

“2:10 - about 30 minutes into construction - my pods all have legs, feet, and laser turrets - I noticed that one of my sprues (the only ones I had as samples) was missing an anti missle laser turret for the back of one of my pods' heads. So, looks like I'll be short a bit - which goes onto my list to have the factories check their quality assurance process so that no customers end up with missing bits from their sprues.”

“2:23 - before arming - got them all comfy on their bases - the 40mm bases are marked off to present a forward point, and mark off 180 degrees to the front, as well as their ID tag on the back of their bases - I cant wait to get some paint on these guys”

“2:54 - well, a few facebook posts and some phone calls, and still i have managed to get them all together just under an hour - they can use a little cleaning and filing - but overall - snappy and easy”

“KK - put them on a clean surface so you guys can see the seams and lines etc. They are not touched up much, I pretty much just daubed glue on 'em and stuck em together without much ceremony (which I will have to get used to when the 60+ pods I ordered get here)”

“..and now... from behind... note- the hips are two pieces, we are confident that most seams on armor will be treated this way - and anything in the test-shot phases that do not pass muster will get tightened up.”

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    1. Forar on May 29, 2014

      The decision to deliver retail waves was made in mid 2013 or earlier.

    2. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 29, 2014

      then tell us Mike why were they already planning on releasing in wave to retail long before that? even told us and listed them as such with only the base game and 5-6 sets being released ?

    3. Mike "Morpheus" on May 29, 2014

      The decision to split into waves was not made until the week before it was announced.

    4. Forar on May 29, 2014

      And before anyone points out that the wave split wasn't announced until January, we've known from a distributor leak what was to be in retail's first wave since around spring 2013, off hand.

    5. Andrew Carter on May 29, 2014

      Actually, they said the same of the Ghost and the Lancer as well.

    6. Andrew Carter on May 29, 2014

      You may not be far off Forar. If I recall correctly, ND has mentioned the Female Power Armor is laid out in sprues already,

    7. Forar on May 29, 2014

      @Kendachi: "3D printed component parts" doesn't necessarily mean they're reflective of the final sprue 3D print test. As some of the larger models, it might've just been a reference to them not necessarily being a single piece printed as a whole.

      Or it might simply be indicative that rather than doing the smart thing and focusing specifically on the wave one stuff first and foremost, they just worked on whatever, since it was all due to go out at the same time, and then when the official call was made to split into two waves, they had a bunch of wave two stuff worked on or nearly complete and a bunch of wave one stuff they hadn't even started on. It wouldn't shock me if that were the case, and would help explain how we've gotten to approximately 20 months of work and are still waiting to begin production.

    8. Merijeek on May 29, 2014

      man, it's a good thing that they didn't think it was worth their time to produce a schedule/checklist that was asked for months ago.

      It would be a shame to have missed all this completely unnecessary confusion.

    9. Mr. Dachi on May 29, 2014

      @Forar: What were those things they showed, then?

      Example, Update 122: "Ninja John sent us some prototype game pieces last week... we’ll start things off with the mighty Glaug-Eldare!"

      Update 125: "Note: The Female Power Armor and Battlepods shown above are pre-production prototypes assembled from 3D printed component parts."

    10. Forar on May 29, 2014

      The Pre Production Prototypes, as I understand it, are 3D prints of the pieces that would eventually be made on a sprue, and assembled to check for a fit.

      The sprues we're seeing are test runs, checking to make sure the molds produce things that can actually be put together. They're a step after the PPPs, but the PPPs are important to make absolutely sure the design is ready to be milled into molds, as that's a time consuming and expensive process.

      We've seen PPPs of almost everything in wave one except a few destroids, best I can tell, but you're right, we haven't seen actual test sprues from the RDF side yet. Which is kind of huge, given that we're at around two weeks past the target date for production to begin. Obviously these things aren't perfect sciences, but if they want to even be able to air freight some crates over for Gencon, they really need to get those machines fired up and running. Not to mention "delivering in July", which is all but impossible at this point.

    11. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 29, 2014

      sorry was thought you were talking about on sprues, if not then yes they have some of the destroids which they showed pre-production models of, well at least the Spartans

    12. Forar on May 29, 2014

      Valkyries?

      Ummm... Update 141?

    13. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 29, 2014

      @Forar no PPP's yet shown of those destroids or Valkyries.

    14. Forar on May 29, 2014

      @Kendachi: there were a bunch of 3D prints done, including those, the Infantry, the MAC II, etc, but I believe those were merely full figure prints, not the "PPP" (Pre Production Prototypes) that represented 3D printed sprue pieces for assembly.

      They've had those for nearly a year in some cases, stuff we saw back at Gencon.

      I think we've seen PPP's of almost everything from Wave One now? Just missing a couple of destroids; we had Spartangate, but I don't think they've specifically shown off assembled PPP's of the Tomahawk, Defender and Phalanx, but we're going back months now, so feel free to point me in the right direction if anyone recalls seeing those as well. Note: NOT mere figure prints; the "we built this using facsimile sprue pieces" builds.

    15. Rache Bartmoss on May 29, 2014

      Jorel it is just what he does. He can't reply to something right away because it takes him days to climb down his mountain of limo money to get to the computer, so everything is going to be out of context.

    16. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 29, 2014

      Jorel think he was commenting about this post:

      Rache Bartmoss 3 days ago

      I see that Duncan drove through here in his fan friend Limo. Good deal, I was getting worried he might have rage crashed while escorting Justin Bieber around.

    17. Jorel Levenson on May 29, 2014

      I don't see Rache posting in the last 4 days. I know Rick is a jerk, but I don't see how that comment about Rache is even topical.

    18. Jorel Levenson on May 29, 2014

      Where the fuck does that last comment even come into context?

    19. Duncan Gregson on May 28, 2014

      Ahhhh Rache buttplug... you remain and always will be a source of great amusement to me. Please continue. I need another laugh!

    20. Mr. Dachi on May 28, 2014

      Haven't we already seen some Wave 2 printed prototypes? FPA and Glaug-Eldare I think?

    21. Forar on May 28, 2014

      Did you or your kids watch Reading Rainbow?

      Because Levar Burton and his team are bringing it back. They've raised 1 million dollars in about 8 or 9 hours (breaking their target easily) and have ~34 days left.

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/readingrainbow/bring-reading-rainbow-back-for-every-child-everywh

    22. Merijeek on May 28, 2014

      I think I've dated no less than three women with the initials "JAB". It's almost as common as a J*S (hi mom!).

    23. Robert Oakes on May 28, 2014

      Man i hope so Rick,

      I hope it is of assembled VF's with little to no seam lines.
      Or the redone Spartan to show the improvements.

      Or maybe some 3d printed prototypes of any Wave two minis, to show that they are also being worked while the Wave One nears completion.
      And Possibly yes the aforementioned arty pod. Not because I want to see it's design, (the only difference it the missile pods over the standard Tac pod, which look awesome)
      But because Wayne promised and I still have hope in Wayne.

    24. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 28, 2014

      so we getting an update this week ?

    25. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 28, 2014

      ok then cool. that could have been a PR nightmare if same.

    26. Jorel Levenson on May 28, 2014

      they are not the same person. The "A" in JAB that Jeff Burke's looks like an upside down "V" with no little - connecting the sides of the angle.

    27. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 28, 2014

      well here is a clean pic with his signature so you can check if same or not, the pic is of a girl from his Ay Papi series I think:

      http://jabcomix.deviantart.com/art/Julia-304604052

    28. Jorel Levenson on May 28, 2014

      Jeff is listed in the Credits at the beginning as an artist. It is him. Don't know about the other thing you are referring, but it sounds like it is right up your dramatic alley.

    29. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 28, 2014

      He also draws stuff like adults with underage kids and such.

    30. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 28, 2014

      I hope its not another artist who signs his name with JAB since if it is that artist that will ruin PB's reputation and make it a company not too touch with a 30 foot pole.

      The JAB artist i'm talking about draws cartoons on the internet that are extremely taboo like incest, and such. think his line is JAB Comix or something like that.

    31. Jorel Levenson on May 28, 2014

      So...I'm reading through my pdf I finally got yesterday for Northern Gun 2. There is a lot of art by a new artist who signs JAB on his images. This looks to be Jeffrey A. Burke. So it would appear they did not really hire him to handle all things Robotech as much as put another friend on the payroll. Shame. If they had actually hired someone to project manage or edit properly the company might actually be able to grow itself into something worth while.

    32. Clint on May 27, 2014

      Awwww how cute. The bromance contines lol jk jk.

    33. Rache Bartmoss on May 26, 2014

      I see that Duncan drove through here in his fan friend Limo. Good deal, I was getting worried he might have rage crashed while escorting Justin Bieber around.

    34. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 26, 2014

      Well the color was used for the test sprues, since I noticed what may be Pods in brown, but those could be destroids, furthermore they could be waiting for the product to be "Professionally" assembled and painted before revealing, which wouldn't make sense since we saw no pics of the sprues, but the sprues are in bundles which is more then what we have been shown too, so hard to say.

      as to this weeks update they may end up showing us the pics of ND's painted pods (worst case scenario) or who knows?

    35. Forar on May 26, 2014

      Possibly. Depends on whether or not the factory is actually using the "RDF sprue coloured plastic", or it just happened to use that colour for that test run. It's not impossible, but you'd think they'd be mentioning just about everything they can hold up as a minor victory at this point.

      Guess we'll have to wait and see what the news is this week. In my perfect world, it's that production has begun. In the real world, I'll be happy if they at least have the RDF test sprues, but respect that might be reaching at this point. 4/7 test sprues existing is a start, but realistically, we may already be past the point of no return and are simply in a holding pattern until someone bites the bullet and admits delivery won't start until after Gencon, pushing that "July delivery" (let's be real, August is a stretch) back to September, as August is a cluster-shenanigans in the lead up to the Con, and we'll be lucky if the con-crud merely puts them out for a week or two.

    36. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 26, 2014

      They (PB) might have the Des. Sprue 2 (Spart/Phal) already it might have been in that box of sprues they got in already.

    37. Forar on May 26, 2014

      We just saw the Veritech 3D printed prototypes. Off hand I believe we've seen test run sprues of all Zentraedi figures, but have yet to see actual test sprues of the RDF (presumably 3; Veritechs, Destroid sprue 1, Destroid sprue 2 (Def/Tom, Spart/Phal)).

    38. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 26, 2014

      So the stuff they are showing is the production models, but that's on the Zent stuff which we knew, but the UEDF stuff is still pre-molding parts right?

    39. Jorel Levenson on May 26, 2014

      also this...
      John Cadice-
      "Rache - We are only getting production models now -and I think it would be misleading to take our super sexy resin masters (pre molding) and have them painted up top-tier to show off, if that is not what you were going to get in the box. So, yes, we are having proper pro painters take whacks at our model range - but instead of waiting 6 weeks, I thought I would show you a bit of what was coming with the actual miniatures"

    40. Jorel Levenson on May 26, 2014

      in reference to the assembled and painted game pieces...
      John Cadice wrote:
      "I uploaded these from my phone, because I was in a hurry, and had been painting all day, and it was more important that the kids got to see what I was working on - also, Im not super proud of the pods- they are done, and not up to my usual standard"

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      Larry Algee on May 26, 2014

      @Bobofeet & WRRD - "If the answers were there, I'm sure you would have them."

      So, no answers despite it being two and a half months after "well, we have no clue of the status of our project in this area, but I'll call the subcontractor and get you an answer in a week or two". These are questions chosen by all sides in the project and forwarded by Mike Morph to PB.

      Given that the answers to these questions are not something that needs to be hidden unless something needs concealing, they are at a minimum two months late and actually are even later than that because Palladium's KS ramrod should have had those answers in hand...IOW Lack Of Communication. Yes, those answers are there, if nothing else in the places Wayne said they were, but we don't have them.

      @Jorel - Unless they break the backers first promise and given Palladium Books & Kevin's history of keeping promises and telling the truth around this project alone....if they can get anything shipped by air to Gencon, they will sell it like the little witches they are and screw the backers.

    42. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 26, 2014

      @Forar but that would go against the almighty Kevin S who said we backers would get product first 8^O

    43. Forar on May 26, 2014

      For backer delivery? Oh yeah.

      In terms of having product at Gencon? Nope. They can still air freight a couple crates over in short order.

    44. Jorel Levenson on May 26, 2014

      So...GenCon is a bust...

    45. Forar on May 26, 2014

      Soooooo.

      Apparently the "hoping to start production in mid or early May" ship has sailed.

      Hopefully the next update will address that not so minor concern, as it will directly impact the schedule.

      Even just knowing how long the factory estimates it will take to punch out the sprues would be nice, as I have to assume a factory that does this knows what kind of timetable they're on for a run of this size (especially since they'll want to know when they can fit in another project to keep things moving).

    46. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 26, 2014

      Actually hope ND isn't involved in parts replacement, since they charge $3 for parts, or their previous soda pop miniatures company did, and no mention of replacing missing or damaged parts.

    47. Calibors on May 26, 2014

      Can't believe I'm gonna say this, but in Ricks defense to:

      'so what we see of the UEDF is what were getting' is probably true. The photo of the sprues in the last update where the sprues appear to be shrink wrapped (which would only happen for final run products?) indicates no change to the minis especially with release around the corner. Just gotta hope PB/ND come through. Unless ND hasnt had a parts replacement scheme for their other minis, now that more intricate minis (relic knights/robotech) are involved they must have something set up. Won't take much for PB/ND to send out replacements other than postage.

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      Michael Zebrowski on May 25, 2014

      The title of this update reminds me of the old Robotech commercials: https://www.youtube.com/watch…

    49. There is no Wave 2 ! ! ! on May 25, 2014

      @Boba and thats the irony of it, we have to get info from elsewhere it seems, since PB doesn't give a rats arse about us backers it seems, you yourself posted a blurb from the PB weekly update (which they still do with regularity) a couple days ago, which had an update for the project, and yet still no update here, maybe we'll see the painted pods this time since they already showed those on the ND facebook page?

      Also if you go back to the first update showing the test samples of the Pods you will notice I had no complaints then either and even said positive things then furthermore when it comes to the UEDF models what we see is what we get, and if you also read this update you will discover they encountered a problem I said would happen which is short shotting or missing pieces, one of the pod pieces was missing, which brings us back to a question others have asked along with myself which is, what are PB's stance regarding replacements and such.

      As to fixing the seam issue, that's simple get rid of the seams, other then that were gonna have some serious issues in regards to the models when it comes to warping and such.