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Robotech® RPG Tactics™ is a fast paced strategy battle game that expands on the popular Palladium role playing game.
Robotech® RPG Tactics™ is a fast paced strategy battle game that expands on the popular Palladium role playing game.
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Special Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Update – January 30, 2014

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I hope all of our Kickstarter supporters and Robotech® fans will be pleased with the news in this Special Update.

We have decided that, in order to start getting Robotech® RPG Tactics™ products into your hands as soon as possible, we are going to release the Kickstarter items in TWO waves. Wave One products will ship to Kickstarter supporters as soon as we get them; probably early June, 2014. If we’re really lucky, possibly in May. A few weeks later, the Wave One products will ship to distributors.

If we wait until EVERY item in the Kickstarter has gone through engineering, tooling, and quality control before sending it ALL into manufacturing, you will not get them until freakin’ Autumn. We don’t want that, and we know you sure don’t.

By splitting the product release into two shipments, one in the Spring and the other in the Fall, we get to release Wave One to fans who are dying for this product, and you get to start playing and building armies and having fun. We think this is a good solution and hope you do, too.

Kickstarter WAVE ONE Items – Ship May/June, 2014 to Kickstarter Supporters

Wave One will give you the main box game, the rules, color guide and the 34 figures that come in the box. You will also get the first six retail expansion packs. EVERYTHING you need to get going building and painting your Robotech® armies, and to start playing games.

1. Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Box Set

  • Full color, softcover rule book; wraparound cover and lots of new, color artwork, including a comprehensive Color Paint Guide by Jeff Burke. Rules capture the speed and battle action of the Robotech® TV show.
  • 24 Battle Dice, 12 UEDF and 12 Zentraedi.
  • 40 color game cards (unit cards, etc.).
  • 4x VF-1A Valkyries (in Fighter, Guardian, and Battloid modes); that’s 12 figures total.
  • 1x VF-1J "Officer" in all three modes; three figures total.
  • 4x Destroids: 2 Tomahawks and 2 Defenders.
  • 12x Regult Zentraedi Tactical Battlepods.
  • 1x Glaug Officer’s Battlepod.
  • 1x Quel-Regult Recon Battlepod.
  • 1x Quel-Gulnau Recovery Pod.
  • 1/285th scale, high quality, multi-pose plastic game pieces (40mm to 70mm tall). World-class sculpts from sculptors around the world.
  • Game rules use D6.
  • Turn-based system of play.
  • Scalable from small squad skirmishes to mass battles. Can accommodate two to several players.
  • Combat is fast and designed to emulate the anime action.
  • Measuring tape required to determine targets and distance.
  • Plastic game pieces. Assembly and painting required.
  • Not a toy. Small parts, choking hazard. Not recommended for children under the age of 13. Adult supervision advised.
  • Release Dates: Ships in early June to Kickstarter supporters. Ships a few weeks later to distributors. Should be in your hands no later than June and in stores by the beginning of July, 2014.

2. UEDF Valkyrie Wing – Wave One

  • 2 Valkyries in Fighter mode.
  • 2 Valkyries in Guardian mode.
  • 2 Valkyries in Battloid mode.
  • Multiple heads for making the VF-1A and VF-1J.

3. UEDF Destroid Pack – Wave One

  • 2 Tomahawk Destroids – the main battle tank of Destroids, brimming with powerful particle beam cannons for arms, and wielding a battery of missiles and an array of other weapons.
  • 2 Defender Destroids – a long-range, anti-aircraft juggernaut capable of shooting down incoming Zentraedi Battlepods and Gnerl Fighters.

4. UEDF Spartan Pack – Wave One

  • 2 Spartan Destroids – civil defense, riot control and deadly in hand to hand combat.
  • 2 Phalanx Destroids – a walking, long-range missile artillery unit.

5. Zentraedi Regult Battlepod Squad – Wave One

  • 6 Regult Tactical Battlepods – the lightning-quick Regults, armed with a pair of particle cannons and auto-cannons, attack in wave after wave.

6. Zentraedi Artillery Battlepods – Wave One

  • 4 Zentraedi Support Battlepods, each of which can be made into any of the following:
    Gluuhaug-Regult – Light Artillery Battlepod
    Serauhaug-Regult – Heavy Artillery Battlepod
    Telnesta-Regult – Experimental Particle Beam Battlepod
    Four figures total.

7. Zentraedi Glaug Command Pack – Wave One

  • 1 Glaug Officer’s Battlepod – the fast and deadly mecha of Zentraedi field leaders.
  • 1 Quel-Regult Scout Battlepod – the stealthy eyes and ears of your Zentraedi battle force; electronic warfare capabilities.
  • 1 Quel-Gulnau Recovery Pod – enhances the Glaug’s ability to bring in Battlepod reinforcements. Note: This figure has NEVER before been offered by any company.

8. Battle Foam Carrying Case – Wave One (tentative)

For those of you who ordered one, we will try to have the Robotech® RPG Tactics™ carrying case available to ship with Wave One. If not, it will be shipped in Wave Two. But Wave One is looking pretty good.

Battle Cry and Showdown Note

The Wave One portions of Battle Cry, Showdown and Reckless will ship as part of Wave One. Here’s a breakdown of what that will entail:

Battle Cry: Main box game (containing 5x Valkyries in all three modes, 2x Tomahawks, 2x Defenders, 12x Regults, 1x Glaug, 1x Quel-Regult, and 1x Quel-Gulnau), plus 4x Valkyries in all three modes, 2x Spartans, 2x Phalanxes, 12x Regults, 4x Artillery Battlepods, 1x Glaug, 1x Quel-Regult, and 1x Quel-Gulnau. That’s 69 out of the total 96 game pieces that come with Battle Cry. The remaining 27 game pieces will ship to you with Wave Two.

Showdown: Two main box games (containing 10x Valkyries in all three modes, 4x Tomahawks, 4x Defenders, 24x Regults, 2x Glaug, 2x Quel-Regult, and 2x Quel-Gulnau total), plus 8x Valkyries in all three modes, 4x Spartans, 4x Phalanxes, 24x Regults, 8x Artillery Battlepods, 2x Glaug, 2x Quel-Regult, and 2x Quel-Gulnau. That’s 138 out of the total 192 game pieces that come with Showdown. The remaining 54 game pieces will ship to you with Wave Two.

Reckless: Four main box games (containing 20x Valkyries in all three modes, 8x Tomahawks, 8x Defenders, 48x Regults, 4x Glaug, 4x Quel-Regult, and 4x Quel-Gulnau total), plus 16x Valkyries in all three modes, 8x Spartans, 8x Phalanxes, 48x Regults, 16x Artillery Battlepods, 4x Glaug, 4x Quel-Regult, and 4x Quel-Gulnau. That’s 276 out of the total 384 game pieces that come with Reckless. The remaining 108 game pieces will ship to you with Wave Two.

Add-Ons: Similarly, all Add-Ons that are made up of Wave One game pieces will ship with Wave One. That includes the Valkyrie Wing, Destroid Pack, Spartan Pack, Regult Battlepod Squadron, Artillery Battlepods, Command Pack, and hopefully the Battle Foam Bag, as mentioned above. This may also include the Tomahawks from the Daedalus Attack Add-On, but the logistics of splitting that item are uncertain at this time.

WAVE TWO Kickstarter Fullfillment – Fall, 2014
– The balance of ALL the remaining Kickstarter items should ship by October

The Kickstarter exclusives and EVERYTHING else that was part of the Kickstarter will ship in the Fall, probably September or October. We actually hope to ship much sooner, but we can NOT promise that. Obviously, we would love to have ALL the remaining Wave Two product in time for Gen Con Indy ourselves, and that is what we are working toward, but that seems quite unlikely. After Wave Two items have been sent to Kickstarter supporters, we will ship the next wave of retail products to distributors.

Please keep in mind...

  • This is still the game you supported. It is just shipping in two parts and later than any of us would like.
  • This is the game you have wanted for more than 25 years! And you are going to get it.
  • Think about why you are so frustrated and perhaps even angry about the Robotech® RPG Tactics™ delays. It’s because you want it so badly you can’t stand it. You want it now! Us too! That’s why we have decided to ship in two waves, so you can get enough to start building and painting your armies, learning the rules and PLAY as soon as possible!
  • Splitting the Kickstarter shipments into two waves will cost us more money, but Palladium Books and Ninja Division are willing to eat those extra costs to get this great product into your hands. We are committed to Robotech® and you.
  • By the time you’re into the groove and jonesing for more, Wave Two arrives to expand your armies and the scope of battles. And Kickstarter supporters will be getting some items that will not be released on the retail market for many months to follow. Nice.
  • I know it’s not what you were expecting. Neither were we, but we think this is a good solution. We hope you do, too.
  • The mantra between Palladium Books and Ninja Division in recent weeks has been, we need to do “whatever it takes to get this product into our customers’ hands as soon as possible.”
  • Wave One should ship no later than June! Actually, we’re shooting for May, but at this stage we don’t know if that’s possible and do NOT want to disappoint you if things should get pushed back again. June seems to be a pretty safe ship date.
  • Wave One will start to ship to Kickstarter supporters the day the product arrives at our warehouse from China! How committed is everyone? Not only is Palladium pulling out all the stops, but John Cadice, the Creative Director of Ninja Division, told us he, and maybe some of his crew, may actually fly to Michigan to help ship product for the first few days!
  • In the end, other than unwanted delays, nothing has changed. You will get the game and products you supported, and the hours of fun that comes with them. We want a quality product that thrills and pleases Robotech® fans around the world. That’s a lot of responsibility, but we welcome it and will deliver it.

Keep the faith. This is a very viable plan. We are getting close. You will be pleased.

UPDATE: Australia

More good news. ALL Palladium Robotech® products will be available in Australia & New Zealand. To our friends in Australia and New Zealand, you can purchase ALL Palladium Robotech® products, effective March 1, 2014. Palladium’s Robotech® products are also available in the USA, Canada, the UK and the rest of the EU. Starting tomorrow, we’ll have the first wave of Robotech® RPG Tactics™ retail products available for pre-order in our online store, and they’ll ship out right after the Kickstarter items ship in May/June. If you've got a local game store you’d rather get them from, that’s great! Please let them know you’re interested in Robotech® RPG Tactics™.

– Kevin Siembieda, Publisher & Game Designer

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    1. Matt Pinkerton on February 7, 2014

      I'm with Mr Kerbow.

    2. Forar on February 5, 2014

      Even with S&H, it'll end up around 1/4 MSRP, or likely around 1/3'ish some of the better retail sites I've seen.

      Not bad at all.

      Though that'll likely drop off markedly for add ons, but we knew that going in.

    3. MidnightBlue
      Superbacker
      on February 5, 2014

      Seconded n815e...especially after you compare KS prices vs. Retail prices!!!

      I'm set for a while with a MASSIVE discount.

      =)

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      n815e on February 4, 2014

      I am in for a lot more than a single veritech and I'm okay with this.

    5. Kenneth Harkin on February 4, 2014

      Now we are looking at one year + from the close of the kick starter to first deliveries. I am glad I went in for only a single veritech just to be in and keep an eye on things.

    6. Robert Oakes on February 4, 2014

      @ Nick
      The narration of the show says it measures nearly 3/4 of a mile in length.

    7. Forar on February 3, 2014

      1,210, if we're being exact.

    8. Forar on February 3, 2014

      1,200m according to the first edition of the rpg book and the first three google sources I came up with.

      It might vary depending on the source material you're working with, but I've always thought it was that size.

    9. Nick Delciappo on February 3, 2014

      @forar I thought SDF-1 was a mile in length. That makes the scale version 18.5 feet long.

      I have also heard 3/4 of a mile too. Which is accurate?

    10. CthulhuCultist on February 3, 2014

      For those interested, I just received a reply about the experimental phalanx parts:
      "Yes. The experimental missiles will be included with the wave one phalanx release.

      Jeff"

    11. AndrewDrexler on February 2, 2014

      I am not too worried about the split in waves. 276 figures is alot of assembly and painting to churn through before the rest arrive. And since the majority of that number involves staple figures, it not like they were not first in the painting que to begin with.

    12. melodramatic on February 2, 2014

      @felindar that would be pretty sweet

    13. Peter T. Pidrak (Felindar) on February 2, 2014

      I just noticed the part about ninja div might be flying out to Palladium to help with the packaging and shipping. I'm in Northwest Indiana so if they let me know three or four weeks in advance, I will freaking take time off work drive up to Michigan help wit the whole thing if they just let me drive back with my toys.

    14. MidnightBlue
      Superbacker
      on February 1, 2014

      @Forar:

      Thanks!

      It seems that an MTA-Titan might not be out of the question at those dimensions.

      I know we are getting minis that are a foot long to 10" tall in the All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter. I believe the Land Iron Clad is a foot long...and the Martian Overseer Tripod is approximately 10 inches tall.

    15. Soulrage on February 1, 2014

      I really dont mind the two waves to be honest. I expected the delays. I know Ill get my product when I get it. Until then Ill keep working on my 3-4 main 40k armies, and play 40k. Then when RRT comes in Ill be happy and start working on it. I just hope they reopen the backer kit between waves so I cant get more stuff.

    16. Forar on February 1, 2014

      Also, a scale SDF1 is around 13 feet long. Given that a standard RRT table is only 4x4 or 4x6, it'd probably be more sensible to just set up a hull themed section or side for deployment. Hat off to those crazy souls who'll build a scale model and run like 6 games off it at once...

    17. Forar on February 1, 2014

      Blue: divide numbers by 285, and you have your answer.

      At a glance, just under 12" by 6" by 4".

      Nowhere near exact, but converting scale as a ratio is pretty easy, you end up with the same unit of measurement, it might just be a small fraction now and then for oddly shaped items.

      ... it's a winter party and I've been drinking heavily, though, so consider that math highly suspect on its exactness until you can run it through a calculator.

      Principle should be sound though.

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      Larry Algee on January 31, 2014

      @Robotek19 - Thanks for your post about HG and why they are pushing the Shadow Chronicles crap. I'd wondered about that one since the original canon timeline & story was great. Trying such a large retcon always ends up screwing up the story as the paper over the cracks gets more & more obvious.

      As for the KS, well it's fairly obvious someone in ND/PB was more than a little clueless about dealing with the Chinese. If they had been scheduling the tooling for the "Wave 1" items (that was the minimum to release a game) *during* the KS, we would have probably had that in our hands by this past Christmas. Then while they are doing the tooling steps, get the preproduction modeling done on "Wave 2". Waiting to get everything done all at once is what shafted both them & us.

      What worries me right now is that PB appears to be neglecting extended release support and just plan on making Gencon release with Wave 1 and hoping the name Robotech will save the day. Oh, let's not forget the role playing Ambassador program that will somehow translate into the tabletop arena. Against the battered spouse mentality of the majority of GW's fans.

    19. Robotek19 on January 31, 2014

      *swings a foot at the internet, misses and busts his @$$*

      Damn you internet! Next time! Next time I tell you!

    20. Morgan Vening
      Superbacker
      on January 31, 2014

      @Robotek19, I blame the internet too! Everybody blame the internet!

    21. Robotek19 on January 31, 2014

      No worries Morgan. I blame the internet and it's lack of tone. ;-)

      We're good :-)

      re: scale, I think I did the math before but I'm about to go I bed, think Dolza's flagship to scale is like 13km tall lol...just saying, we're gonna need a really big mold ;-)

    22. CthulhuCultist on January 31, 2014

      @Robotek19: thanks for posting my comment here, I had to run out the door and didn't have time to do it myself.

      @everyone else: I also sent out a reply asking if the Phalanxes will have the experimental parts in Wave 1, so once I get the reply I'll let you all know :)

    23. Morgan Vening
      Superbacker
      on January 31, 2014

      @Robotek19, Yeah, I wanted to apologise for that. I saw MB's post literally just before I had to leave for work (which I got to, 90 seconds before I was due, so I was cutting it close). It was obvious from MB's post, that you were actually asking for information. I assumed (and just made an ass out of me, you're pretty much in the clear*) that you were using the old chestnut that's been used before on here, that if you've never run a business, you've got no grounding to criticize. And it's a chestnut I f'n hate. But I was wrong. Sorry.

      * From the expression "When you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME"

    24. Mike "Morpheus" on January 31, 2014

      For many of you here don't forget about the Facebook page!
      https://www.facebook.com/groups/1440349382851175/

    25. Brett on January 31, 2014

      Well, If we can have a scale SDF-1, then why not a model of the Grand Canon? Or Dolza's ship? Or the Protoculture Factory? I am sure BS would buy a dozen of each. :)

    26. MidnightBlue
      Superbacker
      on January 31, 2014

      Here we go!

      MTA-Titan

      224 ft long, 245 with cannon extended
      76 ft tall, 131 with cannon extended
      105 ft wide.

      So you scale experts...what's that on our game tables?

    27. MidnightBlue
      Superbacker
      on January 31, 2014

      Heh...if GI JOE can have a 7.5 foot aircraft carrier toy, then by golly we can have an SDF-1 to scale!

      =)

    28. Robotek19 on January 31, 2014

      Well, while we're at it Midnight why don't we bring back the scale SDF-1 conversation :P It's only a bit bigger than my car :P

    29. MidnightBlue
      Superbacker
      on January 31, 2014

      I don't know why, really, but I always felt that the REF destroids lacked character compared to the RDF destroids.

      I definitely prefer Macross to everything else, but I'll want everything in the end. Post Macross, I look forward to seeing the AJAX and the Cyclones most of all.

      I wonder if we'll get that big mobile base with the Kill-All main cannon from the REF Field Guide. Wish I remembered what that was called. Heck...time to go back to the books...

      It might be too big to field easily as it actually carried destroids inside of it. Still, I'm curious if it is even a possibility.

    30. Jorel Levenson on January 31, 2014

      Holy Comment section Batman.

    31. Lorindor on January 31, 2014

      @Robotek19
      I agree. Some could also be part of the New Generation. It would be sweet to have the Regent Invids and the Inorganics too. They would be like a complete new faction of their own, but could be mixed with classic Invids as well. However, I could only see that happening if the game becomes really popular.

    32. Robotek19 on January 31, 2014

      and for those who might not see it in the normal comments…


      CthulhuCultist about 1 hour ago
      I just a reply on the email about the missing stuff:
      "Sorry for the confusion. The Valkyrie wing will include all but the
      D type head. The Destroid set will also contain the command pack. All
      items included with the boxed game will be released with the first
      wave. This will include the decals, blast template and command tokens.
      Hope this helps.
      Jeff Burke
      Palladium Books

    33. Robotek19 on January 31, 2014

      Well, I think they (HG) are trying to effectively turn Shadow Chronicles into the "Sentinels" if you will. I've gathered that it might be as a result of trying to get away from Big West which is part of the issue with the license. Making Hunter and all those 1st gen people be lost is honestly a great way to move forward and away from licensing headaches if they actually produce new stuff.

      With that said I'm hoping as you said, some stuff makes it, but it will likely come in as Shadow Chronicles would be my guess. Either way, more Robotech is ok with me however it shows up :D.

      And now my necessary reminder that I'd like to see future Robotech stuff keep the same scale. ;-)

    34. Lorindor on January 31, 2014

      @Robotek19
      But yeah, they will probably not get their own Kickstarter.

    35. Lorindor on January 31, 2014

      @Robotek19
      I think some units from the Sentinels era or at least early UEEF units have a good change of coming. The Condor, the Conbat and the fighters on Carpenter's ship are all from the series and are technically Sentinels era mecha. Also the "REF" Battlepod and the Mac III have all got some screen time (in the Sentinels movie and in Love Live Alive, respectively). Isn't the Bioroid seen in the Sentinels movie also different from the series? Then they would be foolish to not include it since the Robotech Masters has such a low variety in units. But I wouldn't miss the rest of the Sentinels destroids and especially not that transforming Pegasus... Have I missed something?

    36. Kevin S Is a Terrible Business Man on January 31, 2014

      @PB
      Are you guys showing another pic today of another prototype? Thanks and have a good weekend.

    37. Kevin S Is a Terrible Business Man on January 31, 2014

      @Lorindor

      The cartoony paint schemes are easier to paint. At least for me.

    38. Lorindor on January 31, 2014

      @Alberto Camargo
      I was just trying to give perspective and explain why many of us other want it to succeed. We all have our reasons for backing this Kickstarter. Actually, I'm only in this because it's Robotech. My only other experience with miniature war games were almost ten years ago when I tried to paint a few Warhammer Elves. But I got so annoyed with it that I almost threw them into the wall, and they remain unfinished to this day. (I really hope that the more cartoony color schemes in Robotech will be easier to paint...)

    39. Leonardo Poni on January 31, 2014

      I'will be more than happy to not whine if ND will just say - ok guys we have screwed BIG TIME since we are just daydreamers (which is ok as KS surely involves passion and dedication for an idea) But here we are getting slapped back every update with constant bragging on how this game will be great....based on what we get untill this point they do not have any idea on how tooling and manufacturing will require, I will not be surprised to arrive this fall and guess what? ....another delay

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      Pootzwacke on January 31, 2014

      Everybody stop whining. If you've ever Kickstarted anything, you should know the drill by now. There are delays. Manufacturing takes time and a lot of back-and-forth or you get inaccurate pieces and quality issues.

      Palladium has done a great job recently keeping us informed, no matter what the whiners say.

      Take a deep breath and acknowledge how the real world works. It's what grown-ups do.

      Jeez. There's nothing worse than nerds.

    41. Alberto Camargo on January 31, 2014

      @Lorindor
      "Well, if you want to be able to play the game with a someone, I'd say it's natural to want it to succeed. Also, I think many people want the other generations too, and then PB need the capital.
      However... "
      I'll be able to play with whomever I want already with the minis I might eventually get, so... (shrug).
      I'm not going to see any player over here anyway that (other than the ones I make) either, so it's not like it changes anything.
      I also don't care about any other generation (Macross fan here, don't really care that much about Robotech anyways), nor about any PB capital woes.
      Hell I don't really even care about the game all that much! (Already have 4 different systems to use the minis with). I'm in for the minis. And the minis apparently will be a year late.
      ...at best, probably.

    42. Robotek19 on January 31, 2014

      @Midnight: Stop making sense to me, you're making me fight my principles and Robotech is my weakness :-P

    43. Robotek19 on January 31, 2014

      @GunplaGamer: Based on the update, I'd wager that if you got just "add-ons" it depends on the add-ons. For the most part if you got some regular valkyries and pods or destroids (except Monster), those are wave 1. All the other stuff is pretty much Wave 2.

    44. GunplaGamer on January 31, 2014

      So as someone who just got individual pieces, when can I except my rewards? Thanks!

    45. Andrew Ferguson on January 31, 2014

      Palladium, this is good news. I understand that you are probably more frustrated with this than I am and that having already waited a quarter of a century for this a few more months isn't too much to ask. Thank you for all of the hard work that you are doing to get this game into production. I know that splitting the shipments will increase your costs, and that all of this extra unforeseen time you are investing is keeping you from other projects. So thank you I look forward to receiving my game and with any luck spliting the shipments will maybe get it through Canadian customs without me having to pay....here's hoping.

    46. MidnightBlue
      Superbacker
      on January 31, 2014

      Oh I'd love to see the other "ages" happen via KS if for no other reason than I might get some sweet discounts.

      =)

      What...too greedy?

      =)

      Tooling for new minis is still a huge capital commitment even if the first set does well. So I could see additional KSs to follow. But if RRT blows all expectations out of the water, sure, it could definitely be a self-sustaining beast.

    47. Robotek19 on January 31, 2014

      Agreed. Since I first heard of KS, to ME it always sounded a lot like the stock market, and any money I put into that is as good as forgotten. To me it's no more than playing the lotto or gambling. I saw this as a more focused way to invest into something I wanted to see on store shelves to buy. I know lots of people want 2nd, 3rd, and Shadow Chronicles KSs (sorry but Sentinels is unlikely folks), but I'd rather not see that. I'd rather see this succeed on it's own and see the other gens show up in other "waves". If there are other KS's I'll likely be around for the excitement but probably will only get exclusives. I only ponied up money for this to see it succeed and MAKE it to retail :-D.

      In MY perspective, the only reason to have a KS for following gens would be because this one fell on it's face so hard that the others won't happen without our help again, and that would just make me sad.

    48. MidnightBlue
      Superbacker
      on January 31, 2014

      @Robotek19:

      I agree with you in that, for me, the goal of the KS was always to get Robotech RPG Tactics onto retail shelves. I had no expectations of any estimated shipping date to be a hard and fast line in the sand. I pledged based 100% on all the same info that we all had on the front page of this KS and all of the info and visual aids that we received during the KS.

      Beyond that, I have no expectations. I've purchased a lot of PB products over nearly 30 years so I know the quality of product that I could rely on from precedence and I'm happy with that.

      Since everything looked good to the point that I was ready to commit to the process, I pushed that button as I would a fire-and-forget missile.

      When it gets here, I expect to feel the explosion.

      =)

      Really, I think that is the best way to view a Kickstarter. If you can afford to invest your money with no guaranteed fulfillment date, then push that Pledge button and go on with your life. Someday, you'll have a nice surprise package waiting on your doorstep/inbox.

      It's working for me. I've been getting presents all throughout 2013 and 2014 looks to drop some doozies on my doorstep as well.

      =)