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Robotech® RPG Tactics™ is a fast paced strategy battle game that expands on the popular Palladium role playing game.
5,342 backers pledged $1,442,312 to help bring this project to life.

Going Forward

Posted by Palladium Books (Creator)
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The past days, and everything that has unfolded, have really taken me and many others aback, and I have taken some serious time to consider what my next post should entail. Unlike some of my previous posts that I have shared with everyone regarding everything that has transpired, I will keep this one more brief and to the point for clarity’s sake.

First and foremost, Palladium Books thanks everyone (family, friends, freelancers, backers, retailers, game developers, etc.) who has extended their sincere words of support to Carmen and his family. Palladium is passing such positive encouragement on to him and his family, and they appreciate all the support. Carmen is recovering, and we are continuing to keep him and his family in our prayers. I will post updates regarding Carmen's health and recovery within the Palladium Books Weekly Update for those who are sincerely concerned about his well-being.

We also understand that there are some backers who are extremely frustrated and/or disappointed with Palladium Books regarding the delays of RRT, but let’s please put certain things into proper perspective, as we are talking about a life in comparison to a game. Some backers have emailed us and shared some very personal things that have touched our hearts and that we were happy to pass on to Carmen. However, there are “some” people (NOT all) who, no matter the reason or issue, feel the necessity to “express” themselves in such a manner that is really uncalled for in the full spectrum of everything else. Please consider the life or lives that you talk about and how well you do or do NOT know them, before you judge them. Everyone is different, and everyone does not think nor react the same way you might. We don't always know what someone else is going through or contending with.

Second, I want to be clear to everyone that I'm not accusing nor lumping EVERY backer in with the vitriol and disrespectful communications that have transpired on these comment pages or other forums. Please understand that was never my intention. There are a huge majority of backers who have conducted themselves in a very civil and respectful manner. Even with the frustrating, disappointing delays and setbacks with Wave Two rewards, we are thankful for the respect, sincere, constructive inquiries, and understanding and communication you have shared with us. We thank you for such conduct and appreciate your support. Palladium has not given up on RRT, despite what some people might speculate. We are seeking quotes from manufacturers for the array of Wave Two rewards, as we continue to develop and then fulfill the Kickstarter that everyone has pledged to see come to fruition.

We also understand that this has not been a walk in the park for anyone. Not you, not us. Far from it, and there is frustration and disappointment on both sides of the fence, but we do want to see RRT fulfilled, and that continues to be our goal until it is completed and shipped to you. As mentioned before, but I feel compelled to reiterate it here – we are trying to make improvements and headway on Wave Two rewards, via reduced part counts for easier assembly, reduced seams and better sprue layouts. This is happening right now, as we compare quotes utilizing new manufacturing approaches and technologies in the production processes to help attain what we are seeking, while preserving the high detail and quality.

With Wave Two rewards having so many unique unit designs to be broken down and quoted, and with Essen Spiel (one of the largest gaming/miniatures conventions in Europe that is visited by many miniature manufacturers - just transpired in October) and the Chinese New Year over, we are hoping the congested pipeline for quotes will move much faster now.

Once we have the quotes, we can then decide which manufacturer(s) to move forward with. Unfortunately, this process does not yield visual results that can be publicly displayed.

However, once the tooling, mold making and sprue process begins, we will be glad to post pictures and more. In the meantime, we do have some major plans in development for the relaunch of RRT and for those who looking to be a serious part of it, we gladly welcome your support. Please look for future posts for those seeking to help with the RRT relaunch.

Thank you,

Kevin Siembieda

President, Palladium Books

 

 

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    1. Talizvar on

      I am "taken aback" that we STILL have no update.
      Not that the next would be much of one, but still... sheesh!

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      Larry Algee on

      @Talizvar Palladium hasn't had anything meaningful to say since they kicked ND out the door and then under the bus after lying to both them and us.

    3. Talizvar on

      So, May drawing to a close.
      So Palladium... got anything meaningful to say?
      Now with another kickstarter not distracting you anymore?
      You know, it is a pretty simple business you have there.
      It is awfully funny how you try to make it more than it is.
      You specialize in producing fantasy fiction with structure for role-play.
      I hope you will be able to apply a tiny bit of reality in real life and give a "real" update.
      I know fiction is your main thing and it may be outside your comfort zone but listing things that happen in the real world and not pipe-dreams and intentions would be awesome, thanks.

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      Larry Algee on

      @Robert "Nanobadger" Dixon - Heh, I'd be surprised. The two FLGS stores I hang at frequently were planning to clear an entire shelf off for RTT products...I mean after all, it is ROBOTECH!!!! and Palladium had supposedly contracted with a reputable designer to handle all the design and production. Unfortunately, as we now know, Palladium kicked ND out of the loop (first lie by Palladium) and were forced to redesign everything because Palladium chose to go with the el cheapo method of making minis (which actually would have been okay if they had decided to go with solid or two part minis, but wasn't what was promised).

      All it took was one look at the disaster that was mega part count on the first posted minis to get the owner of a FLGS to laugh and that was the end of any of this steaming load of crap we are being ripped off with being offered for sale. I love one of the things posted when it was figured out that Palladium had "borrowed" the part patterns from an old set of much bigger Macross models for their "minis":
      Too many teeny parts for wargamers
      Too little detail for modelers

      My personal favorite...instead of simply using cheap clear acrylic parts for flying models, instead we get wonderful colored bits that look like liquid feces spewing from the correct portion of the various models anatomies.

    5. Oscar Simmons
      Superbacker
      on

      @mac Thank you.

    6. Talizvar on

      Let us please put things in proper perspective here, we are talking about someone's private health issues in a forum about a game and there is no confusion between someone's life and a game. I would say the person was put into a difficult situation due to PB licensing and loose ends rather than critical words by backers.

      Rogue Games wishes to release a game under the PB IP and the lack of progress with RRT has a direct impact on the value and success of this new offering. The best help Carmen can get for his project is for Palladium to show results, not keep talking about plans for months and years at a time.

      I would give advice I personally learned: do not argue with customers, it is a sucker's game.
      They are your source of income.
      Your success and failure largely rests in their hands.
      PB should be particularly aware of this since they have depended a few times on donations and customer "good will" to keep their doors open, but seem to take that for granted.

      It is INCREDIBLY hard to be civil when someone takes your money for years at a time (and no refunds!) without fulfilling what was promised and with no good explanation and/or no change in status to what reasons are given. I do not feel I need to pretend to be pleased with this situation.

      The various reasons for delays are all seasonal events that are well scheduled ahead of time and would be like blaming Christmas vacation for lack of progress.

      I must also point out the comment about continuing to develop the Kickstarter, December 2013 was the anticipated full delivery date in the beginning: what development can take close to 4 years to not even begin to get tooling done for well over half the models? This is reality denial stuff.

      This "update" starts off feeling like using a tragedy as a shield and then a long litany of excuses and clearly stating no details will be given for a long overdue explanation to backers why this breach of trust continues to be a black mark on Kickstarter "investments".

      I have seen this demonstrated with many projects that if things go south, you keep the customer/backer/investor informed of the issues and progress made: it is the adult thing to do.
      Plans fall through, it is of no benefit to make plans secret just in case they do not work out.

      Normally I would have walked away from a project like this long ago but it is so incredibly bad I am trying to figure it out. It is like watching a car crash: it is horrible but you still watch to see how it will end.

      Just fix your mess please.

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      mac on

      I am re-posting a comment suggesting ways to hold Palladium Books accountable for their lack of progress on this project.

      File a consumer complaint with the FTC
      https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1

      File a consumer complaint with the Michigan Attorny General (since PB is based in MI):
      https://secure.ag.state.mi.us/complaints/consumer.aspx

      File a complaint with the Michigan BBB:
      https://www.bbb.org/detroit/business-reviews/books-new/palladium-books-inc-in-westland-mi-13022151/reviews-and-complaints

      Write a letter to Harmony Gold or post on their social media complaining about how badly PB has mismanaged the Robotech gaming license and how they are giving the brand a bad name.
      admin@robotech.com
      https://twitter.com/robotechnews
      https://www.facebook.com/robotech

      And don't forget to hit the Report Kickstarter button at the bottom of the campaign page.
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm

    8. Jeffrey on

      I think the plan is to wait till 3D printers become more common and we can just print out our own figures.

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      John Null on

      @matt pinkerton,
      pb hasn't kept us in the loop since wave 1 dropped. pb hasn't tossed us any actual forward progress since adepticon last year. one update in 2 years that shows progress is not good.

    10. Talizvar on

      @Matt: Funny I thought "a strange loop" after reading your post, then glory-be there is a meaning for this:

      Strange Loop: "A strange loop is a cyclic structure that goes through several levels in a hierarchical system. It arises when, by moving only upwards or downwards through the system, one finds oneself back where one started. Strange loops may involve self-reference and paradox." - Wikipedia

      This is scary apt since we keep finding "oneself back where one started."

    11. Matt Pinkerton on

      Thanks for keeping us in the loop!

    12. Robert "The Madness" Dixon
      Superbacker
      on

      I should have said "nor in any of the stores i visit infrequently, either"

    13. Robert "The Madness" Dixon
      Superbacker
      on

      Speaking of FLGS support. I haven't seen product in any of the three stores i frequent on a regular basis. It has been well over a year since i did see it and it was covered in dust. Not even an alternate universe full of Doctor McCoys could bring this game back from death.

    14. Talizvar on

      If the actual criteria is "free":
      That is an interesting answer.
      Quotes are asked for so you can say in all honesty "we are getting quotes".
      Why? To say efforts are being made on the RRT in good faith or not.
      If the message changes to "we are waiting for quotes" you know the suppliers stopped answering.

      I still tinker with the models, if anyone feels a strong need to unload let me know... I have a good home for them... if the price is right. ;-)

      I have 5 major hobby shops in the area I listed, being around multiple universities makes for a geek-rich environment. So if RRT cannot keep a toe-hold here: It's dead Jim.

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      James Edwards
      Superbacker
      on

      @Tali

      I suspect the criteria Kevin is looking for on a quote is "free" or we'll pay you for the privileged of making Robotech mini's and working with a company of such Awesomeness as PB.

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      John Null on

      good question tali, and welcome back. i only have 1 local shop that carries anything new of pb's and that stock doesn't move much at all. i know there are players in my area but finding them and getting to leave their houses is proving futile. so for me the game is dead. i haven't bothered building or painting any of the figs in a year or so, the closest i got was sorting out what i was willing to keep and try to build up and what's going to eventually be thrown out seeing as they're worthless.

    17. Talizvar on

      Ah, deciding not to bring RRT to a logical conclusion within a reasonable time is the problem.
      By not doing so, it has devalued Palladium IP which will pose no small problems for Rogue Heroes to launch their project on.

      I agree that business decisions do affect lives.
      The few hundred dollars I still have not seen product for, could have very easily gone to a good project worthy of assistance.
      I am quite sympathetic of the topic of emotional challenges but a kickstarter update page is not an ideal choice as a podium.
      My difficulty is how this information is presented appears more as a means to distract rather than genuine concern and trying to set things right.

      It has been years repeating the "reduced parts count and getting quotes" and it would be terribly interesting what criteria returned on a quote would get Palladium to decide to proceed?

      I would be interested to see what could be brought to light as a "re-launch" since it has been a couple years since I received my "Wave 1" and I have not seen a single RRT product carried in any of my local (within 50 km) area hobby stores for over a year now.

      How do you resuscitate what is amounting to a dead product?

    18. Ronald Ledwon on

      Well this Go Forward is lie to us all. Its all Rift IP baby. NO ROBOTECH RPG AND ROBOTECH TACTICS RPG WAVE2 for 2017. I DON'T LIKE THIS UPDATE!!!!

    19. Scarlet
      Superbacker
      on

      This isn't going to go away with a bunch of flimsy excuses Kevin. Admit there's no money left and you defrauded 5000+ people.

    20. Pedwidge on

      I don't think it is as simple as using piece count as a metric. I feel it is a design issue and considering PB is not a miniature gaming company this issue will not be fixed.
      I have been playing 40k for years and just started building some AoS models and I have not had as many issues with any of those models as I did with the valkyrie in guardian and battloid modes arms and hips, and the destroids leg/hip assembly. Even the Tzaangors models with their odd arms and chest assembly were easier to build than most of the Robotech kits. The exception are Battlepods, even with their little front guns, were a good build.

    21. Morgan Vening
      Superbacker
      on

      @Scott, I'm looking at the sprues on the GW Website, and the Tzaangors seem to have about 80 pieces for 5 models (ie, 16 apiece), there seems to be a LOT of customization options (34 arm options (some combined into single piece), six additional shields, 8 sets of horns, 11 heads). Remove all those, and it really looks like it's
      - body back and legs
      - front loincloth
      - head
      - hair
      - horns
      - one or two pieces for arms.
      - optional shield

      By my count that's 6-8 pieces. Maybe a few more for supplemental stuff (I think piece 69 is a cloak?). If RRT was 6-8 pieces per model, and there were there wouldn't be the constant complaints about parts count.

      The Exalted Sorcerors (what I assume you meant as Disc Riders) seem to be a bit more excessive (80 pieces for 3 models, or 27 apiece), and more required in the artsy arena, but there still tends to be a lot of duplication for variety. The sprues aren't as detailed, but I count 8 pairs of arms, and 9 shoulder paldrons for 3 models.

      You're going to need to try harder to convince me 20+ parts counts are the new normal.

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      Canoso on

      @Forar: I must be... I guess I just have such a nostalgic love for Robotech that's keeping me hopeful.

      @Palladium... Just finish the damn SDF-1 resin statue. It's not even a game piece. Deliver that and I'll wash my hands of you and this farce. Savage Worlds Rifts has allowed me to not directly support Palladium anymore.

      Thankfully there's some Brazilian Palladium fans who love to scan their books and leave them on some server I came across...

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      James Edwards
      Superbacker
      on

      @Scott

      No. I do NOT have to look at GW's current line. I look at what was presented in the kickstarter.

      Multi Part models designed by Ninja Division, a company who's existing game line at the time of the Kickstarter consisted of 2-3 part models that were pre-assembled in the later releases.

      THAT is what the kickstarter indicated the final product would be to me, not a 20+ mini model.

      THAT is ALL I care about, what was promised to ME during the kickstarter,

      If the 20+ part models were intended (which Kevin admited was not his intent) then that is Palladiums failure to CLEARLY indicate such (CLEARLY being a Kickstarter requirement) during the kickstarter and 3+ years later I should not STILL be held hostage to there changed scope or poor communication on a product that I would never have wasted my money on had the CLEARLY indicated, as they are required by kickstarter to do, that the pieces would be mini models unlike anything ND had at that point released instead of actual game miniatures.

      So stop telling me that 20+ mini models aren't that big a deal, because its my $600, not yours and you have no right to tell me weather the product is worth MY $600.

    24. Scott Kenny on

      I am glad that Carmen is recovering. Were I living in Texas, I'd go visit the man in person to wish him well, but I'm about 4 days travel away and that's just not an option.

      I'm still afraid that Palladium's name is tainted in terms of kickstarters, what with how long this KS has taken and we still don't have all the product. But I wish Carmen good luck on his Rifts boardgame nonetheless.

      Now, on to some more pointed words.

      Anyone complaining about Parts count on the models needs to look at what the current GW Age of Sigmar models are doing. Parts count has gone up from ~10 parts per model (plastic Space Marines, not counting accessories) on the high end to over 30 parts per model (plastic Tzaangors and disk riders). It took a friend of mine almost 3 hours to build 10 models. I assembly-lined all 27 Valkyrie models in that length of time, though I admit the first model of each mode took me a little longer than the rest.

      So stop chasing the perfect low-parts count and accept that without doing extremely expensive multipart slide molds that the best we can get is ~20 on a Valkyrie, and probably another 6-8 to make a Super Valkyrie. Label the kits with a parts count, and maybe a note saying that the only way to get all the details was to make them as separate parts. I've built lots of plastic models, the Robotech Tactics models aren't bad except for how close they are to the sprue.

      The biggest thing I'd like to see on Wave 2 models is more space between parts and the sprue, which makes it easier to cut the parts loose without breaking them (the chin guns on my Glaug pods *all* broke!).

      But Kevin, you NEED to deliver the product you promised. You still owe me about $300 worth of minis, and this delay is not making me happy. I'm trying really hard not to use any profanity this time, but I am flat-out *pissed* about this. Two years to deliver Wave 1 due to unforeseen issues getting the 3d models turned into tooling, OK, stuff happens. Wave 2 should have been out that next year, because you had the models-to-tooling thing figured out. Instead, it's been 2 years and still no sign of Wave 2, just vague promises and talk about reducing parts count and different manufacturers.

      Lock down the designs and get them in production and delivered.

      I hate to do it to Carmen, but I cannot in good conscience recommend that anyone back a Kickstarter with anything to do with Palladium games at this point in time. Maybe once Wave 2 is delivered you might be able to change my mind. Personally, I certainly would not back another kickstarter for Masters Saga or Invid War models, regardless of delivery of Wave 2. You've poisoned your own well, Kevin.

    25. Forar on

      There are 50 comments per page, that same post is currently filling 6 of them (it'd be 7, but this post will bump one of them back).

      I suspect anyone who is bothering to read the comments can see the info just fine.

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      James Edwards
      Superbacker
      on

      @Jorel

      I agree about the links, but digdoug does have a valid point about 4 of the last 10 posts. Maybe if mac kept it to once per week?

    27. Jorel Levenson on

      I dont mind him posting those links...they are way more informative than any Update Palladium has given in the past couple years

    28. Forar on

      @Canoso: any chance you're an eternal optimist?

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      Canoso on

      Why would I expect there to actually be an update? .

    30. digdoug on

      @mac enough with the linkspam. You have posted them in 4 of the last 10 posts.

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      mac on

      I am re-posting a comment suggesting ways to hold Palladium Books accountable for their lack of progress on this project.

      File a consumer complaint with the FTC
      https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1

      File a consumer complaint with the Michigan Attorny General (since PB is based in MI):
      https://secure.ag.state.mi.us/complaints/consumer.aspx

      File a complaint with the Michigan BBB:
      https://www.bbb.org/detroit/business-reviews/books-new/palladium-books-inc-in-westland-mi-13022151/reviews-and-complaints

      Write a letter to Harmony Gold or post on their social media complaining about how badly PB has mismanaged the Robotech gaming license and how they are giving the brand a bad name.
      admin@robotech.com
      https://twitter.com/robotechnews
      https://www.facebook.com/robotech

      And don't forget to hit the Report Kickstarter button at the bottom of the campaign page.
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm

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      Eric Watkins on

      LOL CHINESE NEW YEAR

    33. Shawn P. Smith on

      Kevin,
      You're fake news!
      Sincerely
      Texas Wargaming Coalition

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      Fleshharrower on

      Uncle Kev, you have stolen money, the bill has come due. Pay up.

    35. Missing avatar

      mac on

      I am re-posting a comment suggesting ways to hold Palladium Books accountable for their lack of progress on this project.

      File a consumer complaint with the FTC
      https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1

      File a consumer complaint with the Michigan Attorny General (since PB is based in MI):
      https://secure.ag.state.mi.us/complaints/consumer.aspx

      File a complaint with the Michigan BBB:
      https://www.bbb.org/detroit/business-reviews/books-new/palladium-books-inc-in-westland-mi-13022151/reviews-and-complaints

      Write a letter to Harmony Gold or post on their social media complaining about how badly PB has mismanaged the Robotech gaming license and how they are giving the brand a bad name.
      admin@robotech.com
      https://twitter.com/robotechnews
      https://www.facebook.com/robotech

      And don't forget to hit the Report Kickstarter button at the bottom of the campaign page.
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm

    36. Madmecha on

      A sad thought... even if wave 2 were to ship out next month. The damage all of this has caused, just about insures that any future RTT kickstarters ( like for the Invid etc ) is destined to fail. I had a long discussion with a fan at a convention about RTT. I was selling a copy of it and they looked at it but really didn't want to get into it because of all the bad comments about how it was handled all over the internet.

      I did talk him into trying out the demo I was doing and he did like the game. But was still on the fence about weather to buy into it since as of right now wave 2 is still in the clouds with no concrete dates of release if ever.

      This saddens me, as Robotech is some very cherished by me and many others from our childhood and playing the RPG. I really want to see all of Robotech (Southern Cross, Invid etc) come to the RTT to be played. I'm just worried for the future of it all at this point.

    37. Missing avatar

      mac on

      I am re-posting a comment suggesting ways to hold Palladium Books accountable for their lack of progress on this project.

      File a consumer complaint with the FTC
      https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1

      File a consumer complaint with the Michigan Attorny General (since PB is based in MI):
      https://secure.ag.state.mi.us/complaints/consumer.aspx

      File a complaint with the Michigan BBB:
      https://www.bbb.org/detroit/business-reviews/books-new/palladium-books-inc-in-westland-mi-13022151/reviews-and-complaints

      Write a letter to Harmony Gold or post on their social media complaining about how badly PB has mismanaged the Robotech gaming license and how they are giving the brand a bad name.
      admin@robotech.com
      https://twitter.com/robotechnews
      https://www.facebook.com/robotech

      And don't forget to hit the Report Kickstarter button at the bottom of the campaign page.
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm

    38. Benjamin Stehn on

      Thank you Kevin. I hope Carmen recovers soon. I for one am not concerned with the part count, the detail has been good so far and would love to see wave 2 soon.

    39. Missing avatar

      mac on

      I am re-posting a comment suggesting ways to hold Palladium Books accountable for their lack of progress on this project.

      File a consumer complaint with the FTC
      https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1

      File a consumer complaint with the Michigan Attorny General (since PB is based in MI):
      https://secure.ag.state.mi.us/complaints/consumer.aspx

      File a complaint with the Michigan BBB:
      https://www.bbb.org/detroit/business-reviews/books-new/palladium-books-inc-in-westland-mi-13022151/reviews-and-complaints

      Write a letter to Harmony Gold or post on their social media complaining about how badly PB has mismanaged the Robotech gaming license and how they are giving the brand a bad name.
      admin@robotech.com
      https://twitter.com/robotechnews
      https://www.facebook.com/robotech

      And don't forget to hit the Report Kickstarter button at the bottom of the campaign page.
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm

    40. David Simpson on

      Robotech RPG Tactics Update: Going Forward (aka. Digging Deeper)

      After the massive backlash from the last update, Palladium keeps the ball rolling...Here we go again.

      https://youtu.be/8giFGNAe8z0

    41. Michael Howell on

      Dude... You are ridiculous. You have managed to make two shame posts about you, and your excuses for the indefensible excuses for your delays.

      Look, it really sucks that some freelancer kid that works with you tried to kill himself. But, it was NOT just the result of a single post and the vitriol that was thrown at him. I'm excusing the awful behavior on both sides, but seriously... People don't throw themselves into his type of situation over one thing. It's a long string of things that build up until the pressure cooker blows. And for you to try and shame us and use that post as a means to bloviate about how your trying to manage this sinking ship is just disgusting.

      In the time that I have waited on this impotent project I have backed nearly 40 others just after yours. And in the last four years, all but eight, EIGHT have not been completed. And the reasons for those are either because they are not wrapped up, recently completed and funded in the last few months, or (in the case of only TWO, because they are video games, and in a normal year two of production...with REGULAR updates showing actual progress!), and only ONE was cancelled. So, in short: I have in my possession at least 25 board games that were all completed in less than two years, and just a few that are still in various stages of backing or development. All in the FOUR years that it has taken you and your god-awful company to deliver only HALF of what we supported.

      Kevin, you are a con. And I feel really sad for the folks that stand in support of you, your antiquated and boring pen-and-paper rpg, your empty-the-closet eBay "store", and this project. You took a well-loved IP, conned Harmony Gold into letting you make something potentially awesome from it, and you conned fans out of lots of hard-earned money. All we ever get are lies, lack of transparencies, or worse.

      Ultimately, I hope you fail. I hope your company fails. I hope Harmony Gold rips this license away from your greasy, huckster hands. And I hope that Kickstarter bans you and your company from ever taking part in this platform. If any one of those things happens, then the loss of nearly $300 of my dollars will have absolutely been worth it.

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      Cannonfodr on

      Here's what an update should look like Kevin:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/heavygearblitz/heavy-gear-blitz-war-for-terra-nova-starter-set/posts/1365446

      Sad how a project that took in 1/20th of RRT with 1/10th the backers has made more progress in the past 7 months than Palladium in the past 3 years.

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      mac on

      I am re-posting a comment suggesting ways to hold Palladium Books accountable for their lack of progress on this project.

      File a consumer complaint with the FTC
      https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1

      File a consumer complaint with the Michigan Attorny General (since PB is based in MI):
      https://secure.ag.state.mi.us/complaints/consumer.aspx

      File a complaint with the Michigan BBB:
      https://www.bbb.org/detroit/business-reviews/books-new/palladium-books-inc-in-westland-mi-13022151/reviews-and-complaints

      Write a letter to Harmony Gold or post on their social media complaining about how badly PB has mismanaged the Robotech gaming license and how they are giving the brand a bad name.
      admin@robotech.com
      https://twitter.com/robotechnews
      https://www.facebook.com/robotech

      And don't forget to hit the Report Kickstarter button at the bottom of the campaign page.
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm

    44. Mark Johnson
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      on

      Drakerys has just been received by backers, about 22 months late. Again, a million models and parts, but they've successfully delivered. They also kept backers up to date with model updates and the like throughout the project. Given as backers we could see things at least moving, that really helped, and even with reposable models (changable arms/weapons).

      But with RRT there's no such progress, at all. And now we're blaming Chinese New Year for the third year in a row (you might be forgiven forthinking Chinese New Year actually last for three years).

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      James Edwards
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      @Brian The thing is Palladium never expected to have to do any of the work, if you read through there "Blame Everyone Else" thread quite a while ago its apparent they thought Ninja Division was going to do all the work and they'd just collect a bunch of free cash.

      The only thing we've seen or gotten was the stuff Ninja Division had "98% done" at the time of the kickstarter and that was apparently screwed up because someone decided to switch to the micro models we got instead of what by his own admission Keven & Ninja Division were originally designing.

      NOTHING appears to have been done since then, mainly because Palladium does not have the ability to design minis or the cash to hire people who can and no one in there right mind would touch such a poisoned franchise because the starter set is so horribly done (also kevins own admission) that more models for a game thats already way to difficult to get started in won't help.

      Thats not even mentioning the negative publicity Kevin brought in with the last 2 updates.

    46. Brian Schenck
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      After reading this, and re-reading this, then spending some time reflecting... I've concluded that this project far exceeded the ability of Palladium to actually fulfill. With the sheer amount of items involved, the complexity of the delivery involved, and the scale of everything... It's clear that this was beyond the scope of what could have been handled.

      Given the delays involved, and the consistent "We working hard!" with no real evidence to show... I've lost faith in Palladium's ability to deliver on this project. This truly was a product that was oversold and over-hyped, and has been significantly under-delivered. If I receive anything from Wave 2 at this point, I would consider myself lucky.

      But I just can't find it in myself to believe that Palladium will deliver in the end. And, truthfully, I'm not sure how much faith I can find to support any of their other IPs.

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      nicolas giorgi
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      Kev, at this point just stop writing "updates";
      There's nothing in them, and you're just succeeding in pissing ppl off more and more each time.
      Just stop it.

      3 years to get a quote ? yeah .... there's a nigerian prince who would like to meet you...

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      mac on

      I am re-posting a comment suggesting ways to hold Palladium Books accountable for their lack of progress on this project.

      File a consumer complaint with the FTC
      https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1

      File a consumer complaint with the Michigan Attorny General (since PB is based in MI):
      https://secure.ag.state.mi.us/complaints/consumer.aspx

      File a complaint with the Michigan BBB:
      https://www.bbb.org/detroit/business-reviews/books-new/palladium-books-inc-in-westland-mi-13022151/reviews-and-complaints

      Write a letter to Harmony Gold or post on their social media complaining about how badly PB has mismanaged the Robotech gaming license and how they are giving the brand a bad name.
      admin@robotech.com
      https://twitter.com/robotechnews
      https://www.facebook.com/robotech

      And don't forget to hit the Report Kickstarter button at the bottom of the campaign page.
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm

    49. Brian Ledbetter on

      What's the matter Kevin, can't even keep your lies straight anymore? You told us that reducing parts count was a dead issue months ago, that it could not be done and you've moved on to other issues. No one believes you anymore.

      You need to make Carmen whole. Refund his IP licensing fee and release him from his Rifts Kickstarter obligations.

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      John Null on

      glad carmen is doing better.

      as many others said all this with carmen does not really belong here. you keep shifting blame to others and refuse to show forward progress to us, the people you promised clear and transparent communication with. since wave 1 you showed some pictures we were shown in 2013/14 but with a new backgrounds about adepticon 2015. for adepticon 2016 you showed pictures of the vf-4(all 3 mode) and the sdf-1, but a backer beat you to it. now it's 2017 and really you have not shown anything continually saying trying to reduce parts count and waiting on quotes. it's time to just call it quits and issue refunds and show everybody where the heck the money went.

      then again you'll never read this or reply