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Funding for this project was canceled by the project creator on May 12 2017
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    1. Jolly Blackburn on

      Very informative update. Good luck with the project.

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      Jim Bateman on

      Thanks Carmen - I can't wait to see this game through to fruition ❤️

    3. Isaac Alexander
      Superbacker
      on

      Hey Carmen, I'm glad you're getting treatment and are feeling more like yourself again. Though they may not show it, everyone wishes you well.

    4. Glenn Rockelmann on

      I'm sorry to hear about your personal issues. I would suggest you cancel this kickstarter and focus on your mental health and well-being.

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      David McLoughlin on

      I'm very sorry for all of your troubles Carmen, I've always enjoyed your work RIFTS-wise. Some people will always have opinions and make comments that you don't agree with and vice versa, but this is an exciting project and I hope the support out there drives you on and you're well in the future.

      Rache & Matt make some pertinent points, but I'm sure you'll share more soon when needed.

      There's a lot of negativity going about these days - could we possibly (for those who are gamers) just get excited about a new enterprise, the possibility of a guy enjoying what he's doing and a new game that might kicks ass?!

      If you haven't yet read 'Empire of Imagination' it shows how hard it is to get games close to done. That's why KS is profoundly valuable.

      Just thoughts from across the pond in the UK. Be happy all.

    6. David Simpson on

      Kopah, if you are looking for clips of Carmen, here's another one: https://youtu.be/avjg8Ugv-m8

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      Claire Labus on

      and yet you use Palladium resources for staffing, artwork, and advertising........Sorry, but the degree of separation is still along the lines of the difference between North and South California. aka, the same thing.

    8. Kopah on

      We are already up to the "History of the Company" update? That was quick.
      Where are all of the answers to the questions about the game?

      You have basically just reiterated what what you have said to us previously about your relationship with Palladium. You haven't addressed the issues we have seen with that story.
      -Rogue Heroes using the same people that Palladium does.
      -Rogue Heroes' US address being the closest UPS mail box to the Palladium offices (Livonia is not "right across the river" as you claim).
      -This Kickstarter being used to move Palladium product.
      -Palladium offering additional Early Bird pledges not listed in this Kickstarter to it's customers.
      -Any contractual guarantee that this project will not be handled or taken over by Palladium once the Kickstarter ends (as was done with Ninja Division on RRT).

      Your involvement with the marketing of RRT also goes a bit further than you let on:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch…

    9. Joshua Gomez on

      Wow...you can really see who is actually concerned and who is hostile for its own sake in people's demeanor's. And good grief, I can't believe people are sincerely trying to peddle the "Carmen fired the first shot" nonsense. He didn't fire any shots, and the fact of the matter is the only reason he posted on the RRT comments was because people there were already talking about trolling this Kickstarter. Those, if any, would be the "first shots".

      Plus seriously, its not hard to see why people who create the IP being licensed would be listed. 20th Century Fox Studios isn't the same company as Marvel Comics, but I bet there's people from Marvel listed in the credits of all the movies Fox has made using Marvel's characters.

      Thanks for the update, Carmen! Well thought out and said, and can't wait to hear more about this game.

    10. salcor on

      Carmen,
      Thank you for the update. The interactions I have had with you and your team have all been positive. Your cander is appreciated. I believe that your project will be completed, of course you are going to have a hell of a ride between the start of your Kickstarter and the delivery. It is easy to let the negative comments get you down. Don't quit, keep pushing and keep your head up.

    11. Salamandros on

      @Erich I can appreciate that. The main difference is that Kevin broadcast that to over 5000 backers via a Kickstarter update (that was not even a Backers Only update for the sake of some sense of privacy).
      I get that Carmen doesn't want to talk about it, and maybe this is too soon, but shouldn't this issue be covered in the Risks and Challenges section? It's great that he says he is doing fine, But being that there was a suicide attempt less than 90 days ago, shouldn't there be a statement about if it were to happen again, who will carry on the project? Is there a plan in place?
      I was sad for Carmen when I read about how it was publicized, because I was not an RRT backer, but I heard about it online. That being said, I think it would be responsible to address this

    12. Rache Bartmoss on

      From todays update:

      "So please understand:

      - The Rifts® board game is all my idea. I was the one who came to Kevin about making this game back in 2015. Not the other way around."

      Back in 2012 Kevin had this to say:

      "● Rifts® (and Robotech®?) Miniatures. Carmen Bellaire and I also continue to discuss the feasibility of releasing a Rifts® and/or Robotech® miniatures game even if it’s on a limited basis to start. Let us know whether you might be interested in such products."

      http://www.palladiumbooks.com/index.php…

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      Matthew Conn on

      Carmen,

      I've enjoyed your work, especially with Palladium Books. I'm happy to hear you're starting out on your own! You've got my support! I can't wait to get my hands on this game! Keep up the good work and don't let the bastards get to you.

      From one game maker to another,
      Matthew C.

    14. Erich Zann
      Superbacker
      on

      @Salamandros about 3 1/2 years ago I found my son dead from a suicide. I wasn't sure what to do and I just started calling people telling them. It wasn't until after I had called a half dozen or so people that I realized I shouldn't be doing that just yet. I've always attributed what Kevin did to this same feeling I had. I recently spoke with a friend of mine I've known since kindergarten and he did the exact same thing when his sister-in-law killed herself.

    15. Roberto on

      Sad to see an update like this, but was needful. Now... let's focus in the game :D

    16. Benjamin Barbre on

      Well said, Carmen! Keep up the good work!

    17. Talizvar on

      Your motivations were never unclear but does not hurt to say again.
      The staff and resources used unfortunately is so entangled it really is hard to differentiate your company from Palladium Books.
      I would suggest a similar introduction of your associates and roles would help.
      Then in broad strokes where the project is at and what is "the plan" as best you can reveal.

      Unfortunately RRT is a shared burden by association.
      I too loved Rifts and had many books that I gave to my younger brother.
      I bought the fairly recent TMNT box which used to be a PB licensed product and reminds me of what your product could be. If you have not seen it please look, it too is around $100.
      See what you can do to get those production values.

      I wish you personally good luck.
      Just please be careful of who you list as your "friends", I know something of your experience with my own past and you may have been maneuvered into this difficult situation.

    18. Red Duke Games on

      Well said Carmen.

    19. Andrew Ferguson on

      Clears things up for me. Looking forward to seeing how successful we can make this project. Hope I get to play this game fr years to come

    20. Tor Swanson on

      @Matt Saia. Thanks man, that was pretty well said. Carmen cleared up a lot of my questions, but gameplay uncertainty in particular is holding me back from fully diving in. I'm looking forward to some additional info.

    21. Brandon Aten
      Superbacker
      on

      Thanks for this, Carmen! You rock. Keep this going strong.

    22. Tor Swanson on

      Legit. Thanks for addressing my biggest questions.
      I don't normally do this next thing, but enough is enough. Rache- lay off man. Some of the things you are demanding are way out of the ordinary, some are mean-spirited, and dude, some are honestly ridiculous. As a complete outsider to all parties involved, I appreciate the heads up and reminder of buyer beware. None of my friends are touching this KS for similar reasons. But you did your thing. Let the people who are really excited by this have their enjoyment. If it funds, I wish for the best. If not, the main thing it appears to me is that Carmen is following the path of the entrepreneur, shit doesn't always work out, and you sometimes learn hard lessons, get back up, dust off and go again. Carmen, all the best chasing your dream, on either this project, or another.

    23. Graham Bailey
      Superbacker
      on

      @matt +1 to everything you've said.

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      Cody Rhoades on

      Thank you for being so open and personal. The excitement I have for this project has only increased. Hopefully more good comments can be seen now and less from the same 10 voices spouting negativity.

    25. Matt Saia on

      Thanks for reaching out and attempting to clear things up a bit.

      However, while I can appreciate you not wanting RRT people here posting. Let’s be very clear about things. You came to the RRT comments section and fired the first shots a couple months back which brought you, your project and your motivations under scrutiny from a larger group of people from the RRT kickstarter than would normally have taken the time out to come here and make sure unsuspecting backers get a little information before potentially subjecting themselves to a similar fate as the RRT backers.

      Unlike products like Savage Rifts it’s very hard to tell where RH ends and PB begins. You have full time staff members of PB in the credits of your game in non-licensor/approval roles as well as listed as collaborators on this Kickstarter, including Kevin, the owner of PB, who is fundamentally responsible for the train wreck that RRT is. While I can see that might make sense because they are friends/associates who you’ve worked with, it makes it fairly clear they have a lot more influence over you personally and the project than an FFG/Star Wars style licensing agreement.

      You need to remember that all the RRT backers were once fans of PB, it’s why we trusted them with our money. You had to know that being so closely tied to all the individuals responsible for that mess would reflect badly on you, your new endeavor and this Kickstarter. The best choice would’ve been to get a license completely divorced from PB or to simply do your own game idea and universe to make the break away clean.

      Some of the less hostile protestors and other backers have some very pertinent questions such as the actual name of the manufacturer, the desire to see more details on the gameplay and to understand a bit more deeply what they are investing in. I’d also recommend sharing beta rules, it’s fairly common practice and allows for comments/corrections before you put stuff in stone. While it won’t silence everyone, it will show that you are more prepared than PB was regarding RRT and if you can’t because you don’t have that info prepared, then people are right to question how things are being handled and how this will play out post campaign.

      As to being a game designer and your personal issues I have a lot of empathy, life is a tough place. I hope you personally, regardless of the success or failure of this endeavor find a way through things and also a way to see some of your ideas and visions reach the gaming public.

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      I need a handle too! on

      $1 troll here, thank you for answering some of the questions. There are still a lot more valid questions to be answered, but this is a good start.

    27. Robyn Jamie Stott on

      Thanks Carmen
      Looking forward to this kickstarter succeeding and the first of many more to come.

    28. Natan Press on

      Thank you, Carmen.

      I love your work with Palladium (and I hope you find time to write some more in the future). This board game and the miniatures are exciting. I'm very happy to have the chance to back this project, and I hope both it and you see a long and successful future.

    29. PanzerTC on

      Thanks for the update. I fell better about this now. Best wishes on the personal and professional fronts.

    30. Steve Kozlowski
      Superbacker
      on

      It's unreal how the man can post an honest and heartfelt message trying to explain and assuage the bad feelings and the soulless sharks swim out of the dark waters smelling blood.

      Some of you are actually worse than anything Simbedia has ever done to you.

    31. Salamandros on

      This comment has been removed by Kickstarter.

    32. Elizabeth on

      "I have no control over what Palladium Books does, has done or will do with RRT. Please do not bring the Palladium RRT issues and arguments here...."

      Sorry guy, you opened that can of worms when you said this campaign being successful would mean you could "fix" RRT. You can't unring that bell.

    33. Steve Kozlowski
      Superbacker
      on

      You need to edit your copy and paste post spam Rache, he answered some of those points.

    34. Brooks Hough on

      Please answer Those questions in the KS proper and not in comments. I don't think they will stop unless you do.

    35. Steve A on

      Carmen, I honestly want your KS to be successful but there is way too much bullshit and a lack of honesty and integrity from your "front of shop" people. This can be sorted out but you need to accept and understand that your update didn't answer any questions.....it's better to say " I don't know" than to ignore and hope for the best. Good luck buddy.

    36. Salamandros on

      I'm curious if you wanted Kevin to post about your suicide attempt, because that came across as maybe the most counter-intuitive thing a person could do. You can't unring that bell in the public eye.

    37. Rache Bartmoss on

      At this time there are many unanswered questions about this game. Below are some of the concerns that have been voiced by various backers:

      1. There is very little information about the game itself available.

      2. Rogue Heroes will not release the manufacturer information.

      3. We have not seen a roadmap or any finacial planning.

      4. The value does not seem to be there for the price charged.

      5. Majority of add-ons are preexisting products from other companies.

      6. There are many connections and collaborators credited on this project from Palladium Books whom are responsible for a 1.4 million dollar kickstarter (Robotech RPG tactics) that has not fullfilled pledges four years later.

      7. Extremely rude behavior from Rogue Heroes reps towards $1 backers

      8. Repeated requests for answers to questions have been ignored.

      9. We are unaware of the actual dollar pledge required to have questions answered.

      10. The kickstarter is not being run by the actual Canadian Rogue Heroes company, instead it is run by a shell company that was set up in april in Michigan, very close to Palladium Books.

      11. The terms of service for this kickstarter project offer the company extreme freedom to do whatever they want and will leave you, the backer with very little to no recourse if things go wrong.

    38. Carl on

      Thank you Carmen