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Update #22

Video: Production Update

Hi Backers,

We are so excited to finally be able to deliver this update to you. We know it's been a long time coming, but we hope you'll find it worth the wait. Watch the production update video below where we have some really cool decisions to share with you.

As we told you in our previous update, we've been waiting for a batch of sample Thermodos to arrive. The reason why these samples are so important is because they serve as evaluation units for a range of new production methods we've been trying out. We've been keeping tight about the specifics because we didn't want you to get excited if the methods didn't work out. Now that the samples have finally arrived and we've seen the results for ourselves you can go ahead and get excited. Here's a short breakdown of the changes we introduced in the video.

Aluminum for Everyone!

The White, Black and Red Thermodos (passionately called the 'Regular Thermodos') where initially going to be made from a plastic injection molding. When we conceived the campaign it seemed like the most viable solution. Today we're pretty excited to share with you, that after months of work, we've set up an entirely new production method allowing us to make every Thermodo from metal. That's big news for all the regular Thermodo backers. Using aluminum for all Thermodos will simply raise the value of the entire product. Aluminum is more conductive and it's going to make every Thermodo both work and feel better.

The new regular Thermodos will have their base aluminum painted with automotive grade paint and then have the logo printed directly on to the unit. This means that the Black, White and Red Thermodos will form a completely sleek cylinder. We're still experimenting with colors, so treat these pictures as 'samples' not final products.

A Premium Product

The Premium Thermodos with their anodized aluminum surface will still look vastly different from the painted regular Thermodos. However, with the regular Thermodos getting some love, we felt that we could push the premium product even further. Machining fine detail is costly and takes a long time, but we've been experimenting with various methods to make the appearance of the Premium look even more stellar than we had initially planned.

We've landed on a production method called Electrode Erosion.
What that means is that before the final sandblasted finish is applied to the raw aluminum, the logo will be eroded into the surface! This allows us to have the Thermodo logo sunk into the actual surface of the housing and the Robocat logo extruding from the sensor. This looks unbelievably cool. The copper electrode tool used for the process only lasts a few hundred units before it needs to be replaced. It's a costly and advanced process, but the result is truly premium. Note the samples in these pictures haven't received their final surface treatment, the final product should be even sleeker.

And if that wasn't enough, we've also decided that the premium products should go into production first - that means if you're a premium backer you'll be among the first ones to get your Thermodo.

Pushing onwards

Arriving at these decisions and making the necessary changes haven't been easy, but we feel that they represent a solid direction for both the regular and premium Thermodos. We hope you're excited about these upgrades! After holding the new samples in our hands, we have no doubt that this is the way forward.

We are still working with our suppliers, ordering samples and making adjustments. We're pushing them to get both colors and surface treatment exactly right, and it's probably going to take a few more batches of samples before we're ready for the 0-series production.

We'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments, and we'll keep you posted as we progress towards the next milestone. Thank you for your patience, we hope you feel these news where worth waiting for. ♥

- Team Thermodo

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      Creator Mathias Van De Kerckhove on July 23, 2013

      Hey, I was wondering the same thing as the person below, I'm moving soon and would like to change my address!
      Thanks!

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      Creator Suvash Thapaliya on July 19, 2013

      hey there, I'm hoping that these get shipped in the time, but if not I'd like to get in touch with you guys to change my address though. As I'll be moving mid Sept. to a new address.
      Do let me know please.

      Cheers

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      Creator Robocat on July 15, 2013

      @Erik Scholl We're exploring options on how best to get your Thermodos to you and we are hoping to ship from both Europe and the US. We'll let you know once we have a plan of attack, but we are painfully aware of issues with cross atlantic postage. We'll solve this one way or the other!

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      Creator Erik Scholl on July 8, 2013

      The Thermodos look friggin' amazing! also, I was wondering whether the Thermodos would be shipped from Copenhagen or from somewhere in America. (I heard kickstarter has a policy requiring the products to be sent out from America at some other kickstarter product, I might just be remembering it incorrectly though.). It would definitely drastically change the delivery time for me, since I live in the Netherlands and I think sending it from Copenhagen to here would probably take 2 weeks at the most, while sending it from America might take even longer than a month. Anyhows I will be looking forward to getting mine a lot!

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      Creator Marie-Andree Poisson on July 6, 2013

      @Glenn You are probably right. Let say that keys and car paint are not a very nice mix.

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      Creator Kim Togo Andersen on July 6, 2013

      Thanks for a great update.

      How is the progress with the Companion App for iPhone and Android? Are they ready to be downloaded when you ship out Thermodo ?

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      Creator Glenn on July 5, 2013

      I don't want to seem unthankful, but... While it's great to have them all be aluminum, if I had had the choice of a painted one vs the premium one, I would definitely have not gone with a painted one. Anything painted hanging on a keyring in my pocket is bound to have the paint chipped off, and the painted on logo is also bound to chip off too. Essentially, this is now a completely different choice of products than we initially had. I wish there some way of having all of the regular ones done without painting on a logo on top of a painted surface or even of having a way to Paypal the difference and get a premium one instead (yes, the premium looks even better than initially, but it's my concern of the longevity of the painted aluminum that's the issue). Thanks.

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      Creator Amir Mortezaie on July 5, 2013

      I meant to say.."heay guys...." It would be cool to see your workshop and take some pics with y'all

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      Creator Amir Mortezaie on July 5, 2013

      Heay guy! I'll be in Copenhagen in August.... Can I drop by your studio? Cheers?

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      Creator Johan H. W. Basberg on July 5, 2013

      Looks great! Alu for all is also great news! Read your comments on the paint - I drop my keys on hard surfaces all the time.. Well, not all the time, but still - any drop tests in addition to scratch tests?

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      Creator Tse Ka Leong on July 5, 2013

      Does the thermodos pre-order at thermodo.com made with aluminium as well? or it will be for just upgrade for backers?

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      Creator Sven Holzheuer on July 5, 2013

      Thanks for the video.
      Thermodos looks great.

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      Creator Robocat on July 5, 2013

      Thanks for all the comments guys. The Kickstarter system really needs in-line comments for times like these. :) Let me try and answer some questions

      @Amir Mortezaie We'll be doing an update on the status of the software counterpart down the road. :)

      @Brady We've been discussing a native windows phone app with some developers in our community. We don't want to promise anything yet, but know that it is something we're exploring.

      @Qik We are very aware of the snap lock that holds the sensor in the keyring and we are currently stress testing it. The next set of samples will include some improvements to this aspect, we obviously can't have you guys loosing your thermodo ;)

      @Adam Fardden These units have actually been under some serious scratch testing so it's incredible that they don't look more damaged, but we are still experimenting with surface treatment. We are going to try for a more glossy surface and move away from the 'soft touch' that we currently have - so we are very much iterating on that aspect of the regular thermodos-

      @Justin Barley Thanks! ;)

      @Jukka Koivunen We'll definitely look into this, but no promises right now.

      @Jian Liang Kong Yes, the electrode erosion engraving that you're seeing here is planned for the premium thermodos.

      @Adam R We're still testing final surface treatment, but the paint will be automotive grade paint, so similar to what you'll find on cars. We're trying to scratch and stress test the current samples as much as possible, we want obviously a solution where the paint doesn't come off easily.

      @Tom O'Connell We don't know exactly when you can expect to receive them. We are still aiming for our initial timeline, but the team is determined to make the best product possible - even if it takes us a bit longer. With 10 times the amount of units needed to be produced and new production methods compared to the initial plans within the original kickstarter goal, we think it's safe to say that the project has certainly grown. Also want to mention that this isn't just about "colors" we are still iterating on the surface treatment, that's not just how it feels and looks but also how durable the product is. We are also iterating on the snap lock so that you don't loose your Thermodo. So the current iterations also has very much to do with *how* it works. Ultimately our opinion is that Kickstarter is not a store or a pre-ordering site. You have backed a project because you liked our idea and vision, and we'll deliver that product as best as we can. We promise we'll do our very best, but we wouldn't think of sacrificing the result to meet a deadline.

      @RJ That's very much still to be determined. We think that once we get everything going, there shouldn't be too much delay between the two types of products - but at this point it's hard to tell

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      Creator Matthew on July 5, 2013

      Wouldn't mind upgrading to the premium as I'm concerned with the durability of the paint with day to day use would rather it of stayed plastic.

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      Creator John Baxendale on July 5, 2013

      Looking great guys, I'm another person who would love the opportunity to upgrade to the premium one, the engraving really does make it look a little special, great work!

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      Creator Marc Goldman on July 5, 2013

      Great update and very slick video.

      Apart from the funny fake typing at the end as you go to your keyboard! ;)

      Really pleased I went premium. Very cool.

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      Creator Erik Scholl on July 5, 2013

      The premium thermodos look pretty damn awesome already, and it's not even the final product yet!

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      Creator Amir Mortezaie on July 5, 2013

      Looks greate... Love the update....
      I think the non glossy look is cooler than glossy.
      I think you need to work on gap between the unit and the body. There seem to be a gap 0.5 millimeter gap.
      I really like to hear more about the apps and the evolution of the sdk.... Are you gonna make a portal to collect data from around the world? Would therebe FB and TW integration?

      I love to see a Thermodo cloud.... :) and tons of info-graphics... :)

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      Creator Brady on July 5, 2013

      Any news on the possibility for Windows Phone support? :)

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      Creator Qik on July 5, 2013

      From your new video that the thermometer is removed from the holder too easily, which can lead to the loss of this amazing gadget.

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      Creator Adam Farden (deleted) on July 5, 2013

      The black Thermodo in the pictures above looks to have picked up some fingerprints (around the M for example). Is that something you hope to eliminate with different coatings / painting techniques?

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      Creator Justin Barley on July 5, 2013

      Hej!

      It's as interesting to watch your presentation skills as to see how you have evolved from a software operation into a 'high-tech' business.

      How is it Danes speak such good English?

      Mange tak!
      from Johannesburg, where it's a chilly 15c today. ;-)

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      Creator Kasper Hirvikoski on July 5, 2013

      Brilliant job guys! Keep up the good work. I'm liking the look of the regular Thermodos.

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      Creator El Drijver on July 5, 2013

      Great update and very nice to be upgraded to aluminium! I was considering the premium mostly because of the stated improved performance. Great to hear we'll all enjoy that benefit!

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      Creator Mary Feltman on July 5, 2013

      I get more and more excited with every update! I just can't wait to get my kewl, green Thermodo, and now you're telling me that our orders will be processed first! T H A N K Y O U ! Y'all have done a great job!

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      Creator Jukka Koivunen on July 5, 2013

      Incredible update indeed and you´re doing great work to get us the best possible Thermodos. Thanks a lot for that. Only thing is that I'm now regretting that I did not choose the green premium Thermodo since it now looks absolutely amazing. Originally I was pondering that should I upgrade to aluminium ones just because of the better performance and I did not care for the looks that much and alsoI liked the black one better. Nice to hear that I will now get the same performance from my black one since it will have the aluminium encasing too. But you have done so incredible work with the premium ones that it would be very cool to have one, if you think of a way to manage it without a huge hassle. Some projects have used backerkit for managing pledges after the kickstarter campaign. Maybe that could be one way to achieve this. So anyway if you change your mind with offering an upgrade possibility, count me in!

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      Creator Dr. Martin Knechtel on July 5, 2013

      I love the new black regular Thermodo now also being made from aluminium. Looks great on the picture!

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      Creator Jian Liang Kong on July 4, 2013

      Will the premium Thermodo keep the laser engraving?

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      Creator Adam R on July 4, 2013

      What kind of aluminum painting it will be? I want to avoid of any peeling

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      Creator Karl Maria Fattig on July 4, 2013

      Just a note to say how very impressive this update was. Thanks for taking the time to share this information with your backers! It all looks very good, and I can tell you are all giving a lot of attention to the details. That's the way to do it right. Good luck as the project continues!

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      Creator Tom O'Connell on July 4, 2013

      How about a simple statement telling us what the date is we can expect to receive them?

      I really don't care about all the discussion about color. If it works, I will like it. The color issues sound like excuses to be late in delivering. Please comment.

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      Creator Christina Stilwell on July 4, 2013

      It looks good & glad we all get upgraded in one way or another. I chose Red. Hope it turns out good. I noticed in one of ur comments u was going for a more Ferrari look instead of a tomato look. I don't care which color of Red u all chose. As long as its not a lemon... lol... I feel like u all will get the right Red ur looking for. Thanks for the great update. It was worth the wait & it was an exciting one @ that. Doing a great job. Looking forward in using this amazing reward. I'm glad I got 2, so my husband don't have to share his with me now. Keep up the great work

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      Creator Raman Ng on July 4, 2013

      Really awesome, looking forward to receiving my cool premium green Thermodo.

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      Creator RJ on July 4, 2013

      Thanks for the update guys. They both look great!

      I backed for both a regular and premium Thermodo and hope you guys figure out the shipping for us. Would you know the time between the 2 different production runs yet or is that still yet to be determined?

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      Creator Erik Jung on July 4, 2013

      Great update. Very excited to get an aluminium Thermodo!

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      Creator Jason Bierz on July 4, 2013

      Thanks for all the awesome updates!! I can't wait to give my thermodo a test drive. And for my first kickstarter backing, i don't think i could have picked a better company to get behind!!!!! Premium shipping first?!? You guys rock! Now I just have to wait for them to go on sale to the public to get my wife one.

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      Creator L.H. Chua on July 4, 2013

      Awesome, looking forward to it:)

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      Creator Robocat on July 4, 2013

      @Marie-Andree The original regular model featured a plastic injection molding. It couldn't really be considered 'engraving' as it was part of the actual mold. But it is true that it went from having a sunk-in surface to becoming a sleek cylinder. We think it's a nice tradeoff and we also want to underline that there's a big different in the initial plastic sunk-in look of the logo that was demoed in the prototype and the actual electrode erosion engraving that we're doing on the metal.

      @Brandon Abelleira We don't know yet, but it certainly shouldn't be that way. We'll let everyone now how shipping is going to work out once we arrive at that point in time.

      @Jill Mack & Nick Martin Haha, we've discussed that in previous designs, but honestly these pictures make it out to be a little worse than it is. When you see one in person, there should be no missing the difference between the 'O' and the 'D'. But i guess if there's some confusion, milks or cows isn't the worst thing that could come to mind ;)

      @Amy, Cade & Caillin The kickstarter backer system doesn't allow us to handle upgrades, which means that if we decided that it was something we wanted to offer, it would have to happen through manual work. Our initial stance on this is that we'd prefer not to tinker with the reward system. We appreciate that people want to get another reward, but the potential work involved if this is something that everyone is allowed to do, is simply too error prone. We'll let you all know if we change position on this, but that's our initial reaction. Sorry guys.

      @Shariene It's funny you should mention it, the next sample of Thermodos we're receiving we've given some very specific orders for the Red one, so expect that one to change - we're not entirely happy with the look of the current sample. We want more ferrari, less tomato ;)

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      Creator Lee Wilson on July 4, 2013

      Wow! Awesome! So glad I went Premium...

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      Creator Carlos Ferris on July 4, 2013

      My first kickstarter backing and I can't wait! Looks sweet!

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      Creator Caillin on July 4, 2013

      Like Amy, Cade and Sharlene I'd love a way to upgrade to a beautiful kickstarter green one. After all, we're all kickstarter backers so it's not like we'd be coming in as a new buyer wanting the kickstarter exclusive one.

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      Creator Brandon Abelleira on July 4, 2013

      @Robocat

      You stated that the premium Thermodos will be made and shipped first. I ordered a combination of the two different types of Thermodos...

      Will I receive my premium Thermodos first then the regulars in a different shipment? Or...

      Will I have to wait for the production of the regular Thermodos to receive both types in one shipment?

      I wouldn't want to be "punished" for ordering various of the two types of Thermodos instead of just one premium.

      Thanks for the update!

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      Creator Sharlene Glennie on July 4, 2013

      Now I wish I'd invested in the green one - it looks cool!

      Purely because I'm a girl and thinking of wardrobe matching, is there any chance the red can be a little deeper (ie not so much like "tomato soup")? either way, they still look great, and I still can't wait to get mine (well, I cant wait, but you know what I mean :)

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      Creator Dan Kasov on July 4, 2013

      Love the pride you take in your work and your product.

      Samples look great!

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      Creator Jill Mack on July 4, 2013

      Hi folks, Congratulations... They're Beautiful. I think a lot of people thought the same thing as Nick when they saw the photos. It's an unfortunate situation because of the All Caps printing in that particular type style. The only 2 solutions I can see are to not use all upper case or change the type style to where the O looks more oval or the D looks less square. If it stays the way it is, it will become a joke about cows & milk. Sorry guys, just telling it like it is.

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      Creator Abdulmjed al jaber on July 4, 2013

      I wish add color # 383e18
      And the development of optional colors for Backers

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      Creator Albert Lynn on July 4, 2013

      I like the look of the premium green and can't wait to see it in person. However, I really appreciate you focussing on creating a quality product over rushing shipment. Keep up the good work!

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      Creator Nick Martin on July 4, 2013

      The 'embossed' & the printed text looks like "THERMOOO," - It sounds like a brand of milk! 'Drink Thermooooo For That Extra Creamy Taste!' Or perhaps you could do a "GOT THERMOOO, GOT MILK' advertising campaign?! Actually, that fast typing & hair reminds me of my Milkman!? You're not moonlighting on the job are you?! - haha! You look like the cat thats got the Cream! Ahh so thats where Robocat comes into it!! - I'm just joking with you Guys!

      I think it's just the angle of the photo & the logo you've chosen is difficult to see the difference between the 'O' & the 'D' - Or it could simply be my eye sight! Jokes aside, They both do look absolutely awesome, in all honesty. You must be mighty proud of finally seeing your dream come to fruition & if they look that good at this stage the finished product will be amazing! Congratulations! Can't wait for the next update!

      All the best! Oh, & when you deliver tomorrow morning can I just have the 2 Litres of Half Fat Thermooo & 1 Yogurt please!! Byeee!!

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      Creator Marie-Andree Poisson on July 4, 2013

      If I understand correctly, the regular model will loose its engraving (if I compare to the initial photos), but gain aluminium body? Win some, loose some I guess.

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      Creator george shottenkirk on July 4, 2013

      I'm also excited to get my thermodo.
      Just a thought, but would I be able to use this to check my temperature?

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