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Javier, because there may be other people like me who bought a Quo board or system but who don’t really know that much about the references that have been made to the “firmware,” I will tell you my understanding.
As no doubt you know, “firmware” is really a set of software instructions called a “Bios” installed or “flashed” into the flash ROM of a motherboard. The instructions of course tell the motherboard how to interact with the various computer components.
As far as has been posted here, the Quo motherboard has been shipped with a firmware or Bios version called F3A.
Over on the Insanely Mac forums there is a thread called “New OS X Compatible Motherboard -> Quo” This thread has been mentioned previously in this forum site by others:
It is an interesting thread to read from the beginning for various reasons, but on page 15 of the thread (posted Aug 14) there was a URL posted by “xpamamadeus” which when clicked went to a site which purported to have an updated frimware version of the Quo Bios called H3A. The updated version was posted by an organization called HermitCrab Labs, and perhaps authored by someone who referred to themself as Ozmosis (OZ) although I am not to clear on that point and could be wrong. There is no reference to this updated version on the Quo site as far as I can see, and thus the H3A version is not endorsed by Quo as far as I know.
So, the H3A ROM was posted on HermitCrab Labs Tor2Web site. When the internet address to the site was posted on page 15 of the Insanely Mac site on Aug. 14th, the URL worked, and it still appears to be working tonight although when I tried it earlier this evening, it wasn’t working.
As to whether or not you should try to download this Bios version that is unsupported by Quo, and install it onto your computer, I have no idea. My suggestion would be to contact someone who knows what they are doing and aks them directly. Jeff Carnell has been extremely helpful here, and posted his email address so that anyone could contact him directly if they had questions. You could also contact Quo at their sales email address....I contacted them earlier this week at that address about an issue with my order and I had an email reply back the next day. Your mileage may vary of course.
Following are the posts from a few days ago that are relevant.
jt 4 days ago
@Jeff Carnell - I was using F3A as this is the last official version on the Quo site. Then against my better judgement, I tried the unsupported H3A version and ran into the same problems. (My board did work without my 670 installed though.)
I haven't thus far and until I'm told by Quo I have too, I refuse to use third-party bootloaders. There's never been official discussion that this is required. The manual makes no mention of it. l got as far as Chapter 3 which says to install the operating system and then to utilize the included CD to install the drivers. This CD doesn't work in OSX. The 'Xpress Install' on the CD is meant only for Windows. I'd love to know officially what I'm supposed to do next with my current hardware configuration. If I have to wait for an updated BIOs or new drivers that work with OSX to download no problem. I'd just like some official support and clarification. I really don't think that's asking too much.
Jeff Carnell 4 days ago
@Flip The current OZ ver is H3A.723, The latest on the site and the version shipping on the board is F3A.
Flip 5 days ago
@Jeff Carnell I have not yet received my board, but I have gotten shipping confirmation. I am curious about something I read over at InsanelyMac. The post is number 278 here: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/285920-new-os-x-compatible-motherboard-quo/page-14. Is this custom BIOS by HermitCrab Labs the one you guys are using from the Quo web site? Oh, and for anyone wondering, I did opt for the wifi/bluetooth card and they are sending the boards now, cards to follow when they are ready.
Jeff Carnell 5 days ago
I had a long post typed up in response to some of the insanity that's been going on here, but decided it isn't worth the effort.
This is hackintosh build number 8 for me, so If you've got the board and have problems getting things going, email me. firstname.lastname@example.org
Jeff Carnell 5 days ago
@jt, I've seen that happen. If you pull the 670 and plug straight into the mobo do you get a desktop? Also could you go into UEFI and get the firmware version? Did you put the H3A firmware on it? Are you using Chimera(hope not)/Chameleon/Clover?
@hobgodsfan... trying to install now... id appreciate any info on this firmware upgrade to help me get started. this is my first computer build
@hubgodsfan... what do you mean H3A firmware?
@hubgodsfan that is great to hear. I plan on doing exactly the same with my board tonight!
I was one of the first 100 backers and received my board on Tuesday. The last of the remaining components arrived yesterday and I thought I would share my experience with this board in a new system build. Components: Core i5-3570K, Crucial Ballistix 16GB kit (2 x 8GB DDR3-1600) low profile 1.35v, Intel 180GB 330 SSD in a Lian Li chassis with an Enermax ETS-T40-TB heatsink. I am using the HD4000 integrated graphics connected via one of the Thunderbolt ports to my Asus 27" PB278Q.
I used the Oz H3A firmware upgrade (flawless process - hold the END key with the USB drive plugged in and select the ROM file) and then used a USB drive with a copy of 10.8.2 from the App store (used the Lionmaker program to create it) to do a standard install.
The 10.8.2 installed perfectly just as it did on my "real" Mac and so I held my breath and started doing the rollup update from the App store to 10.8.4. At this point I fully expected the system not to boot, have graphics issues or something requiring work to fix. Amazingly, it worked, again, just as it did on my Mac.
So to me personally, this is the holy grail - it booted and installed the retail copy without any assistance aside from the flashed firmware and more importantly, upgrades didn't break anything. YMMV, but I am extremely happy and plan to torture test my system this weekend to make sure it holds up. Well worth the wait.
It was pulled from a MacBook Pro.
The pictures are mostly broken, but I followed this guide.
@Jeff Carnell - Apple bluetooth adapter wired to USB? I am not aware of any bluetooth adapter sold by apple, could you explain better please?
My email is in your mailbox.
Just got the motherboard via FedEx. I was probably one of the last to fund the kickstarter project. Late March or so.
Quo is nearly unresponsive to any form of communication. This is all we have.
Quo should be hosting a forum. Not KS for this board.
This comment section is for all backers including those that do not have the board which is 99.9% of us.
Remember: 1) GO WHINE SOMEWHERE ELSE
2) COMPLAIN DIRECTLY TO CONCERNED PEOPLE
3) NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN YOUR SHOWS
4) THIS IS A PLACE FOR CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS.
@Jeff: Thanks for the insights.
I agree for the most part. Except, for one point; no one forced anyone at QUO to give the estimates they gave. The times given were purely of Quo's choice. They could have given much longer times if they had decided to. Accountability doesn't disappear the minute you start a KS campaign. It's a KS campaign, there are no guarantees etc.. Yeah, we all get it by now. That doesn't mean that the creators have free reign to say anything and not be held to their words with some sort of expectation. It's only reasonable.
The majority will be whiners, like me, since we don't have our boards. You are the minority.
I totaly agree! And I'd like to add that now we are not anymore interested in what whining people have to say about whatever they think about Quo and the service that have or don't have.
If you must compplainj, do it directly to the concerned people, or among yourselves thru PM. NOT HERE!
You are draging interesting people out of here. We are far more interested in infos about own the card is behaving, how to install,…
People are beginning to receive their boards now. I should be receiving mine sometime today. You all will receive yours in due time. If "Your board will be shipped in the next 4 days" is a lie, it is only because we all backed Rashantha into a corner demanding to know when and if we would even receive the boards. Don't you think he would love to have shipped out your board and be done with you, all of you, complaining about when the board will arrive. I totally understood it when some questioned whether or not the motherboard was even a real product and if we would ever see it, that seemed a legitimate complaint, although I was never really in doubt. But all this belly aching about when now that you all know it is a real product is ridiculous. None of us walked into a retail store to get this product. This is kickstarter people. No matter what, the backers here will be among the first to receive this board. Nobody who buys it from QUO's website will receive it before you. Patience...
@Lex B I was not given an estimate. "Your board will be shipped in the next 4 days." is not an estimate, it is a range. 9 days have now passed without shipment notification.
Unless they shipped it without sending a notification, this is a lie.
Just tested sleep. It went to sleep, and woke up without any issues or tweaks. Though, I am using an Apple bluetooth keyboard and mouse with an Apple bluetooth adapter wired to USB, so YMMV.
@Tuco: They are going to be at least a few weeks behind whatever estimates they give. I got a reply back today stating I will get a tracking number once my package has been sent out. So, I got the initial email 4 days ago and it will probably be some more days before I see any shipment. You are probably a bit behind me in line.
I don't put it to sleep, so I don't know if sleep is working or not.
8 days ago I received this:
We have hired extra staff this weekend to handle shipping.
All KS pledgers will receive and email. Your board will be shipped in the next 4 days.
Dear Quo: you lied.
I received an e-Mail reply from Quo that everything (including GFX cards) should work '100%'. They will also be posting some screenshots with specific BIOS settings for graphics soon...
@Jeff Carnell, sorry I didn't realize you meant you exported the DSDT yourself from the mobo. Did you have any sleep issues?
How about vanilla support?
@Jeff Carnell, which DSDT did you use? I just received my board yesterday and have assembled my machine. Everything works so far out of the box except for audio. Haven't tried out my gtx660 yet.
Brief overview of what I'm running:
Install disk made with Unibeast
Exported a DSDT for the board, applied GTX 660Ti HDMI audio and Realtek 892 audio patches to it.
Installed Chameleon 2.2 SVN 2255 for bootloader. Since I have a natively supported GFX card, GraphicsEnabler=No. I also installed the FileNVRAM.dylib module to fix the Messages bug.
Also, I forgot to mention that people who are international may want to consider the implications of having their board sent separately when it comes to shipping costs! You may decide that it's worth paying the cost to ship the WiFI/BT later to get the board 4 weeks earlier, or you may want to wait and save the shipping costs. It will probably be a little more than the approximated $3-$5 for domestic shipping.
Hey, Massimo. Sorry you are still waiting. It doesn't make me happy to see other people waiting, whatever the reason. I assume you are to get the mail not too long after me due to having chosen the same reward tier. I assume it's due to your order being international, but maybe it's something else.
I got the initial shipping email on Monday but am still waiting for the reply/confirmation of shipment email. I'll post here when I get it. I won't be surprised if it's not until next week. Whatever the estimate is, I'm going to assume it will be some weeks later.
Dear Lex thanks for the information and good to know.
I have not received such message from QUO team.
(I pledged $289 for the CONNECTED BY DEMAND: Bluetooth/WIFI capable version and added $40 to ship outside the US since the beginning).
BTW; for anyone who may not have noticed this section of the email;
#1. Wait approximately 4 weeks to receive the entire contents including motherboard and Wifi/BT.
#2. Quo will ship the motherboard immediately. Within 4 weeks ship wifi/bt cards at 50%reduced rate in shipping (approximately $3 to $5)
We apologize if you receive multiple emails. If you have indicated additional products or changes and you don't receive confirmation information please let us know. Please reply this email only. Do NOT send a new email.
Some customers have asked for upgraded shipping. Below are Fedex Upgrade cost. Please note that USPS shipping is included so this is optional.
Optional Shipping Methods:
Fedex Ground : $8 - $12
Fedex 2Day : $17 - $28
Fedex Overnight : $27 - $58
Please select the option you would like your projectQ motherboard shipped. We will immediately send an electronic invoice that you can pay online. The exact Shipping and Handling upgrade cost will be calculated based on your address.
Board in hand: ✓. $219.00
T-shirt in hand: ✓. $0.00
Self-respect and dignity in tact: ✓. $0.00
Seeing people who bad-mouthed this campaign, company, and project still waiting: Priceless.
I am still waiting on my system. I got an email that the boards are shipped first and then the systems 24 days ago.
Curious about CPU support. Has anyone tried the E3-1290v2 Xeon with this board? I haven't ordered any components yet but now that I received a shipping notification I guess I need to get in gear on ordering stuff.
I got the mail to choose shipping a few days ago, but no shipping notification. Grrrr. No email responses either.
Finally I got the mail.
me too. Got a mail today. International backers can upgrade to DHL shipping.
Just received my shipping email from Quo. I am from Montréal, Canada.
I'm international backer and always used KS name to communicate with QUO. I got the following answer 3 days ago:
International orders will start this week. You should get an email today/tomorrow."
Then no further communications as usual..
This is not my first email requesting for a status update.
But got no further communications..
@Jeff: don't let anyone stop you from posting here, I surely won't be responding/arguing with Ron any longer. I defended my position as much as possible.
@op23 & skydog198
International pledge, sent an email last saturday, no answer as usual (it was my fourth email without any answer so far).
@op23 Backed the project around 7 hours after it launched and still nothing so far.
Emailed Quo over the weekend and got a response for the first time:
"You will receive an email today. I apologize for the long delays."
That was 3 days ago and have not received any emails since.
My other 3 emails clearly got stored in /bin.
@op23 160 days since I pledge, but nothing yet.
any international backers got their boards or news of shipment already?
If anyone is planning on using Parallel Desktop for some window apps, don't forget to enable virtualization in your bios.
Hooray, my order has shipped! If anyone else did what I did (emailed back that you wanted to change shipment type after receiving your shipping details email) and didn't get an invoice or response fairly quickly, just go ahead and email Quo (I used the "KS Name" subject) and they'll get right to you. At least, that was my experience. They have a lot of orders to get through, and with a little patience, we'll all have our boards in due time.
@Jeff Carnell, I respectfully request that your conversation with jt be kept on here so everyone can benefit from it. However, Lex and Ron should be the ones that take their lovers quarrel to email instead.
Got a shipping confirmation today!
@jt, if you're back to F3A, what bootloader and options are you running? Actually it'd be easier to just email me since Lex and Ron's childish squabbling is shitting up the comments area.