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An automatic railroad pocket watch for your wrist inspired by vintage Trans-Siberian railway pocket watches. Pramzius - Time Rules!
An automatic railroad pocket watch for your wrist inspired by vintage Trans-Siberian railway pocket watches. Pramzius - Time Rules!
An automatic railroad pocket watch for your wrist inspired by vintage Trans-Siberian railway pocket watches. Pramzius - Time Rules!
57 backers pledged $17,797 to help bring this project to life.

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Pramzius Trans-Siberian Railroad Pocketwatch Inspired Watch

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We have met our initial funding goal (YEAH!) so we are adding two stretch goals.

Minimum of a $100 value (and from what we have been told that is conservative). You asked for it, and we found it. Top-grade, Horween leather strap 100% made in USA in a Zulu/NATO configuration. (See video above). Hand made by Hadley-Roma right here in the USA. This is  a top-tier strap, with leather from one of the world's finest tanneries and construction by the top strap maker in the USA. That is why we have set the goal as a real stretch at $22k. We can make it! We still have plenty of time. Anyone who pledged or pledges for a watch will get this if we meet $22k.

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If we reach $17k then everyone who pledged or pledges for a watch will get an aluminum print of the technical drawing. These will be hand signed on the front and the limited edition number of your watch written on there as well.



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Since we started our campaign, several members have asked us to share more about who we are in order to instill confidence in our project. We are so accustomed to dealing with our existing customer base, we didn’t think about how many new people who had never heard of us would be on Kickstarter.

We believe the most important thing to convey is that while Pramzius may be a new brand, we are by no means a new company or new to the watch business. During the past two decades, our company has imported watches into North America as the exclusive distributors of brands like Vostok-Europe, Aviator and Sturmanskie (the first watch in space on the wrist of Yuri Gagarin).

Our main focus has been watches from Eastern Europe and Russia, thus the choice of our name and area of focus for inspirations. We have thousands of satisfied customers around the globe and we have many resellers of our watches in the US, Canada and the Caribbean. You can check us out on Facebook not only for Pramzius but Russia2all is one of our other pages where we have nearly 50k followers.

Throughout our years in business, we have been involved in ALL aspects of the watch business, including design, development, distribution, servicing, marketing, you name it. While this is our first brand we have launched by ourselves, you can pledge with confidence knowing a company with a solid history is behind your Pramzius watch.

You can also find out more at Pramzius.com

You spoke and we listened! The single most common piece of feedback was that the hands on the watch are too small. We went back to the drawing board and have designed new hands. For the black and blue models they will be both thicker and longer (so more lume!). For the white, with the way they are designed, our only option was to go longer, so we did.

 

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Our company is based in Connecticut, USA.

The massive locomotive barrels through the Siberian night while the conductor braces against the frigid air as he moves between cars. He tugs at the chain hanging from his tattered pocket and pulls out his trusty railroad watch to check the time of the coming next stop. He doesn't realize he is holding a piece of history. The Tran-Siberian railroad pocket watch; now more than a decade out of production. 

In the spirit of these famed timepieces and the trans Siberian railroad, Pramzius -- our new brand based in the USA -- is bringing back the Trans-Siberian railroad watch, but this time for the wrist. Pramzius, named for the mythological Baltic Ruler of Time, seeks inspirations from Eastern Europe and the Baltic region to reignite a world of often forgotten horology and great historic timepieces with new looks and top-flight engines.

By backing our project, not only will you get an amazingly cool timepiece (depending on your level of support) but you will be helping a small, family-run company to realize our dreams of owning our own watch brand. We promise we won't let you down with this or any of the future models we are already developing. Our goal is to make every Pramzius watch an event and something unique on the wrist.

Pramzius pulls together the two decades worth of experience from our Connecticut based team that has been importing and engaged in design of watches from this part of the world, including Vostok-Europe, Sturmanskie and Tsikolia. All our Pramzius watches will use inspirations from one of the eight countries that border the Baltic Sea.

We chose this name to be true to our roots, while providing us with a wider geography from which to draw our inspirations.

 

 

We designed the Trans-Siberian collection as a wrist watch tied to the world of the pocket watch that marries antiquity and modernity like nothing else you have ever put on your wrist.

Our first edition is inspired by a Trans-Siberian Russian railroad pocket watch popular in decades past built by a company that sadly ceased operation in 2007. 

The original watch maintained popularity throughout its run, because, well, it was just plain cool. The simple dial and that amazing relief image of the train on the back made the watch a must have for collectors of Russian timepieces as well as devotees to pocket watches.

We sold this watch in North America for many years before the company folded, and it was a personal favorite of Co-Founder Craig Hester (he has several in his private collection). We have always wanted to bring this watch back to life ever since the last one left the assembly floor.

Even with our love of the original, we made sure the Trans-Siberian incorporates critical updates from the inspiration that today's watch consumer demands. The case, crystal and crown, among other things, are all significantly improved. The original was plated brass, and the Pramzius is all surgical-grade stainless steel. 

The acrylic crystal on the inspiration is upgraded to a K1 mineral (or optional sapphire). And, of course, the inspiration wasn't designed for the wrist and didn't have an optional desk stand.

 

We like to say the Trans-Siberian "is unapologetically big" at 48 mm. We just had to have it sized similarly to the inspiration and we wanted it to be usable alternatively as a clock on the cherry wood veneer stand that comes with Tier 3. A local artisan friend of ours produces these right here in Connecticut.

 

Instead of a pocket watch movement with a sub-dial second hand, we chose the NH38 open-heart movement built by SII of Japan, with the open heart displayed where the sub seconds would normally appear. This gives your watch a visually engaging look while maintaining a pocket watch feel and holding true to the inspiration's legacy.

This is a 24-jewel movement of the highest caliber of construction. We have years of experience with Seiko movements and know they are among the best-made in the world. This caliber winds automatically with the movement of your wrist, so it never needs a battery and if worn daily, you won't need to wind it. The movement can be manually wound and it "hacks", which means the second hand will stop when the crown is pulled out.

For us, the case back was the most critical feature to be lifted directly from the inspiration. It's what made the original such a stand-out timepiece. So our case back features the large, 3D relief of the original train that appeared on the inspiration watch down to even the smallest detail. All three models are numbered, limited editions of no more than 999 pieces per dial. We like rarity.

Even though this is not a dive watch, we also insisted on 10 ATM water resistance. We simply aren't satisfied with 3 or 5 ATM. What does this mean? We won't go into all the aspects of water resistance in watches here. But 10 ATM can handle most any water situation short of serious diving. It is a sign that we are committed to top-quality construction not usually found in non-dive watches.

This is a watch for those who love bright, highly visible lume. And that includes us. We are lume nuts and won't wear watches ourselves that don't have excellent lume. The luminous material on the Trans-Siberian lights up the night and splits the dark. The full-lume dial on the white model is, of course, a stand out. However the lume on the blue and black is excellent (with 15 to 20 layers), with the black sporting the coveted blue color lume.

The original pocket watch didn't have any luminous material at all. That is really not all that uncommon for vintage pocket watches. So, this was one area we had to depart from the inspiration for sure. We have to have great lume on our watches. We are building what we like to wear and hope you will too.

For those technophiles out there, here are some key facts about our lume:

  • We only use 100% Super-Luminova brand luminous material from Switzerland. This is the platinum standard of lume.
  • The lume on the full lume dial is C3, which is the brightest offered by Super-Luminova. The black and blue use one of the newest compounds, BGW09, which allows for the wider variety of color options.
  • But the real story on our lume is that we apply 15 to 20 coats of lume (well beyond any industry standard) and we silk screen between layers to provide the maximum illumination from the bottom layer all the way to the top.

 

We kept it simple and decided to produce three color executions to choose from -- Antique White, Sun-ray Blue and Black. The black is Sun-ray as well, but it is very subtle.  

 

The watch will come on a bund, or sometimes called a lagarto, that goes fully underneath the watch. There are two other options, with all three available depending on which tier you choose. The other two are more traditional leather but also with the screw system for security and/or a nylon strap done in the Zulu style. 

 

 

So, you may be asking, what's with the two crystal options? Isn't a crystal just a crystal? The short answer is, no. The long answer is a bit more complicated. There are actually several types of watch crystals that provide different kinds of protection for your watch 

For the purposes of the Trans-Siberian, we are only concerned with the K1 mineral crystal and the sapphire. So, what is the difference and why does one cost more? The easiest way to describe the difference is using the Mohs hardness scale. A regular mineral crystal is a 5 on the scale. The K1 is a 7 and sapphire is a 9.

The K1 is a special manufacturing process that gives the crystal more scratch resistance than regular mineral and more shatter resistance than sapphire. They are excellent crystals for sport watches, which the Trans-Siberian really isn't, even though it is 10 ATM water resistant. But we wanted the base model to be under $300 and the only way to do that was with a K1.

Why does sapphire cost more? The main reason is it is the hardest crystal material you can get and therefore the most scratch resistant. It's nearly impossible to scratch a sapphire crystal. It is also about the way they are produced versus mineral, but we won't get into that much technical detail here. Bottom line: The K1 will serve you just fine on the Trans-Siberian but if you want the ultimate protection from scratches, the sapphire is worth the upgrade.

 

You may also be wondering: This watch is 48 mm and it has the extended lugs and crown of a pocket watch configuration, is it actually comfortable on the wrist? 

First we would refer you back to the testimonial video up top where Marton Radkai, the editor of Wristwatch Annual, test drove the watch for a day and said it was not only comfortable on the wrist, but VERY comfortable on the wrist.

Second we share that is why we made three strap options. We are confident one or more will work for you. But there is no question this is a big watch that can't be missed on the wrist. This watch isn't for those who prefer subtlety in their timekeeping. Diminutive is not in the vocabulary of the Tran-Siberian watch.

 

We ensured that every aspect of the Pramzius Trans-Siberian watch is thoroughly thought through. The smallest touches are of the highest quality. 

 

  

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First Pictures of our Packaging

 

 

  

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Risks and challenges

As mentioned above, our company has been in the watch business for the better part of two decades. We know the watch business and we know what it takes to build a successful watch. We won't let you down.

That said, all watch production comes with risks. The watches you are viewing in these photos and videos are prototypes of what will become the final product. At least some minor changes will be made. You may notice for instance, that the train rendering on the case back runs a little too close to the edge of the watch and into the words on the back. We will be correcting that.

Additionally, the luminous material will be brighter in the final production than in the pictures.

Our goal is to produce 100 to 200 of each dial. A project like this usually takes 3 months to complete. However, unforeseen things can and do occur. That is why we are stating our completion time frame as August of 2017 to allow for four full months of manufacturing time between the end of the Kickstarter campaign and delivery.

While our past experience has been in watch distribution, we have been quite involved in the production process for many watches. We are confident in our ability to deliver the product on time, however, we cannot foresee every possible glitch that may cause something to need to be corrected, re-manufactured or simply delayed.

You can rest assured, however, that we will keep you informed every step of the way.

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