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Cooperative board game set in a nightmare-horror world. Fight for your life, scavenge, craft, and band together to survive.
Cooperative board game set in a nightmare-horror world. Fight for your life, scavenge, craft, and band together to survive.
5,410 backers pledged $2,049,721 to help bring this project to life.

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I am delaying fulfillment.

All the plastic kits must meet this project's high requirements and my personal scrutiny. Currently, the armor kits do not. They have proved to be more challenging than myself or the technicians at the factory expected.

To resolve this moving forward, I have had several long meetings over the course of this week with the factory boss. He is putting his other responsibilities aside to work with me directly, everyday, 1 armor kit at a time until they meet my approval. I realize I am the gatekeeper in this process and I apologize, but I can't produce something that does not meet my and your expectations. 

So far, our project has produced some of the best hard plastic kits I have ever seen. It is, in all sincerity, a little mind-blowing that they are kits I directed and produced with your help.

The fan feedback and positive reviews we've received about the Pinups of Death hard plastic kit really crystalized the feeling that this uncomprimising approach is creating incredible results. Even the guys at Beasts of War were blown away by the plastic Phoenix: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mfoe9atAgGQ#t=2347

Thankfully, production on all hard plastic kits I have approved has already been finished! There are 15,000 finished Phoenixes waiting for us! (among many other kits!) But… as all of you know, unless everything is 100% done, the project is not done. The reality of this project's scale means we cannot afford to ship plastic rewards in multiple waves and thus we must wait for every last arm, head, and skullcap hammer. Sadly, this is a bottom-line reality.

This is our project and its my job to make sure it's done right. If everything does not meet my requirements and the expectations I've given you, I will feel I have failed to deliver the very heart and soul of my efforts. 

Blame Me
There are no excuses, this is entirely on my own shoulders. The commitment I made by running this campaign (producing 11 times the original scope of the content or not) is the real deal. I am putting every ounce of professional and personal effort, along with every penny of the money raised, into it.

I am always available, front and center, to answer any of your questions and address your concerns. You are my prized backers, the people directly responsible for making any of this possible. If there is something I can do for one of you, I will make an effort to do it.

You can message me thru kickstarter, or send me an email at adam.poots AT kingdomdeath.com. Yes, sometimes my inbox is flooded, but I do respond to everything, eventually. If you have sent me a message in the past without a response, a gentle reminder would be appreciated. I imagine this will result in many messages, so please be patient as I sort thru them. Thank you in advance.

If you have pledge manager questions, email anna at kingdomdeath.com.

Technicality
So we are still "technically" beginning fulfillment in Q2 2014 as I estimated. The Kings of Death will have their Chest of Death collection and the resin beta sent in june.

The resin beta level will also ship out in june.

Estimated Fulfillment Update
I will return at the end of June with a more specific time frame. I respect everyone here too much to pull any "smoke and mirror" tricks, I just want to provide facts. And so I have decided to wait and provide exactly that.

The printing process for the projects many components has already started. The core game and its tutorial received an additional 3 weeks of blind play-testing before we handed it off to an editor and I am feeling very confident in it. (The edited version just came back yesterday!) There are still some good questions that play testers (yes we are STILL doing that) have raised and I think between them and the resin beta backers we will generate a solid FAQ in support of the game that will be available online.

Shipping Address Changes
We have a new shipping address policy in place. When fulfillment begins, we will send you an email to confirm your shipping address. You couldn't believe how often people change their shipping address, I had no idea people moved around that much! So don't worry, we'll get your current addresses when the game ships!

EU Fullfillment
We have two options lined up. I won't be able to pull the trigger until our warehouse is at 100% accountability. 

1. We pack everything domestically, the boxes are freight shipped to the EU and then a label is slapped on to each one and its mailed from within the EU. 

2. We pack everything domestically and declare the lowest possible legal value (manufacturing costs I do believe) on each package. It is then shipped from Brooklyn NY. This will be the quickest way for backers to receive rewards.

The disadvantage to #1, is that it's an extremely long process. All EU orders would need to be packed, then placed on a freight container. Wherein they will be received and shipped a second time. I have always stated, from the beginning, that international packages would most likely ship from the US, as it is the most controlled, manageable and efficient way for us.

Why can't you just work with a fulfillment company / partner? 
As many of you requested, I spoke with several companies that offer international fulfillment. It was not my intent from the get go, but it was a great idea and I followed up on it in earnest.

The reality is this kickstarter is simply too complicated. There are too many items, some from different vendors, some frail, all of which would need to be individually combined in every unique order combination and the size of this task places it far beyond what the budget allows. Even with additional resources we collected from each international backer, the total does not even come close to the reality. We would be spending a crippling amount, to send out packages that we did not personally and carefully pack ourselves, with no way to oversee or hands on trouble shoot a number of logistical issues that may arise.

As promised, I will still keep an open ear and if something solid develops. I will update everyone on the matter. I need to keep the interests of all of the backers and also the project in mind.

Pledge Manager Reopened

By popular demand, Anna has retooled the pledge manager to accept further pledge additions.  

Here's what you should know: You can use your original pledge manager details to login. We've removed resin and collectors edition items since their production numbers are already locked in and in production, or sitting in our warehouse. We've adjusted the MSRP (Our suggested retail price) of all kickstarter items to reflect realistic production and the future of Monster's retail life. 

HOWEVER, we've maintained a tremendous discount for all backers. Items that you add to your pledge cannot be switched, swapped, replaced, or otherwise impact your original pledge. The pledge manager is optimized for the Chrome browser but should be fine in most up-to-date browsers. Any questions or problems please direct to anna at kingdomdeath dot com

Instructions 

- To make additions to your pledge visit: https://kingdomdeath.com/reopen/login.php 

- Use your pledge manager details to login.

 If you've forgotten your password enter your email on the left and click the Forgot Password link to reset your password. 

- You will find a button at the top of the next page that will take you to a summary of your pledge options from your original pledge. 
- You can browse the available kickstarter options using the categories on the left hand side.
- Once you are ready, click the ADD FUNDS button. A paypal link will appear that will take you through the PayPal bit. Once you complete the paypal process and press the close button in the popup you will be taken to an overview of your additions. An email confirmation will follow shortly.

*NOTE: I have not yet had a chance to change the images in the pledge manager, many of them will display the wrong prices and MSRP. I will take care of this tomorrow.

Progress Report

Allright, with that all out of the way I can finally talk about some things I am very pleased with! 

Flower Knight 

Here is the flower Knight in all his plastic glory. Again I decided to bump up his size a little bit. It really seems to help with all of the micro details that resin can render so well. I guess… its kind of a little bit like cheating! But its a lot nicer then the 3% shrinkage you'll normally see with PVC plastic.

The Flower Knight Sprue has a few surprises that we didn't initially plan on. Benefits of  the delay. We added some extra weapons and a new instrument, A Chello! Which has been delighting everyone around the office.

Gorm

The plastic Gorm is awesome. I was really nervous we would lose all of the skin texture on his body and have to sort of "smooth" it out. The factory really shone thru and he came out great! Up close, it really feels more like something made form clay. 

The Lonley Tree 

Putting together this tree, is intense! A total of 4 sprues make up it's massive body. Everyone here likes the plastic tree so much, we've decided to extend the lonely tree expansion to include a small ai & hit location deck, so you can fight a rare breed of it! In addition the phoenix actually does rest on top of the tree, so when it lands on it during gameplay you can put him up there. This is more coincdence then design tho, so do it at your own risk!

Slenderman

I know this is going to tank the sales of the resin slender man units we still have but uh... I think the plastic one actually turned out better?! The sculptor, Jacques-Alexandre Gillois has such incredible talent and is able to craft miniature with such light and delicate features. Slender Man was scanned, and  optimized digitally where we pulled all of the details out a little bit and bumped up his size. Actually he was optimized twice! First time was by myself and Hector Moran and the second time by the factory. The result well... its not frail like the resin and the bumped up details  actually make it feel much more crisp. So... yeah I like this one more!

 The King

Standing at 120mm tall, the plastic King makes me so proud! I was very worried he would have to be cut into a bazillion parts to preserve his detail and layers of mystery. I was however and very thankfully wrong. Of all the large monsters, the kit is the fewest parts! (oh and we totally bumped up the size from the original resin. )

The $666,666 Promise

During the kickstarter campaign I promised that if we reached $666,666 I would create a personal vision of Satan and release it at some point outside of the kickstarter.

The resulting miniature has received much controversy and it's collectors run was sold out in a mere 8 hours. Making it the quickest selling Kingdom Death miniature to date! Since the spirit of the project was rooted in a promise I made during the campaign, we are taking pre-orders for an encore run. Something we do not normally do, due to the logistical challenges involved with resin production. ( It's slow, and super expensive).

I wanted to make sure any interested backers did not miss their opportunity. Here is the link to them on the store. I understand this will not be for everyone, it is again, another unrestrained exploration and to me, it makes a lot of sense. 
http://shop.kingdomdeath.com/collections/in-stock/products/satan

The Boon, The Delay and the Gamble 

I am arranging for some kind of miniature related boon to help ease the pain of the delay. I realize that at this point it is a mere formality, but I feel it is the least I can do.

In addition, we will use the extra time  to continue to polish and round out the content of the projects many expansions. Polish is a lot less tangible then say, an extra miniature. But the effort and time that goes into it, is often many many times more resource intensive. More art for additional story events, more gear and more interactive elements to make each expansion more satisfying to add to your campaign.

I realize that this might not make a lot of sense to many of you, but my perspective is to whole-heartedly gamble on Kingdom Death: Monster with everything we've got. This means, that our extra time won't be spent chasing new products or projects. Nor will we be planning a new kickstarter with the time. Instead we will be pouring it, an urn full of liquid creativity and effort back over everything like a thick gravy. More art, more content, and more depth, added in small thoughtful slices and scattered throughout the project as a whole.

While I cannot personally speed up the physical miniature production anymore then I have. I can certainly use every second and continue to squeeze in as much as possible while the window on manufacturing  closes.

That is my commitment to you backers and to this project. It will continue to get, everything I can possibly give it, until it is finished and speeding towards your front door. This means a great deal to me. 

Oh and another thing. You will get Kingdom Death:Monster before anyone else in the world. It will be, physically in your hands before I send even a single box anywhere else, for any reason. It will not be available at your local game store, while you are waiting for your rewards to arrive. And it won't be sold online via amazon at a discount while you wait either.  I understand and can respect the business and logistical sense of moving product into distribution aggressively. And perhaps it's just getting really late / early. But I don't care! You come FIRST. 

You are more important then distributors, more important then board game reviewers, and more important then retail stores. When it comes to Kingdom Death: Monster, you backers are the most important. We made a commitment together and beyond my most eternal gratitude I promised the utmost peak, the pinnacle of what I could reach with my team. 

And that polished gem is exactly what I will deliver. The best I can manage, nothing more and nothing less.

Thank you~

Rick B, Stefan Abenthung, and 116 more people like this update.

Comments

    1. Creator Rob B. on July 11, 2014

      *patiently waits* Thank you for the amazing update. Looking forward to this one more than any other of my kickstarters :)

    2. Creator John H. on June 27, 2014

      @Pieluigi - how many of those "EU friendly" KS have delivered and had their EU costs match the estimate?

      Just because someone doesn't charge more for EU, doesn't mean that they aren't taking a bath on it.

    3. Creator John H. on June 27, 2014

      @Adam - I see that the Pledge Manager is temporarily closed - is there a timeframe for when it reopens?

      Thanks!

    4. Creator Pride365 on June 16, 2014

      @Pieluigi Maletti I dont care if you guys want/need to save money. All I see is EU backers backing another US based project and then whining again aboit taxes and shipping when you all knew this was planned to ship out of NY. He said he would try to find something better and he has so gove it a rest. Back only things that are EU friendly if it is an issue for you. I know I dont go on EU based KS and beg for shipping from the US. Siriously just pay your darn taxes like a good citizen.

    5. Creator Pieluigi Maletti on June 15, 2014

      @Pride365 Sure, but first of all VAT in UK is 20% and not 22% as in Italy. Plus you have to deduct the sales tax (4,5% for NY) since it's an exported good. And most important sending a 18Kg package, as someone stated, using a EU courier does cost MUCH less than sending the same package from US to UE via air mail. The question should be: why there are so many EU Friendly projects in Kickstarter? They are shipped from within the EU but every other creatore is wrong? I can paste some links if you want to check it out
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/knightworks/dark-horse-rebels-and-rogues/posts/685963
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/columbiagames/victory-in-europe/posts/835998
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joecannon/migration-0/posts/761535
      There is an interesting post on how to make a project EU friendly http://stonemaiergames.com/kickstarter-lesson-47-this-project-is-eu-friendly/
      Also boardgamegeek is on the matter http://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/160878/crowdfunded-games-shipping-from-within-the-europea
      Sorry if we european backers are hoping to save around 400 USD :)

    6. Creator Pride365 on June 15, 2014

      @Gigi Maletti But the you also have to add in taxes Adam has to pay because you arent and the extra money to ship to you from where ever the container lands. It isnt just the slow boat from NY he has to pay for.

    7. Creator Gigi Maletti on June 14, 2014

      @Luke Roberts
      I guarantee that I'm cool enough. As for the shipping cost consider that shipping a 40ft container from NY to a UK port does cost around 6000 US. Inside a 40ft container you can put so many game boxes that probably you would fullfill every EU backer. Then shipping from UK to any EU country is obviously much cheaper and tax free since it's from within the EU. The con is that a container takes a monthor so to cross the sea. The point is that I don't mind waiting a month more :)

    8. Creator Motor on June 13, 2014

      @Pride365 Alright, thanks.

    9. Creator Pride365 on June 12, 2014

      @Motor No word yet

    10. Creator Motor on June 12, 2014

      Any idea when the pledge manager will be up and running again?

    11. Creator Pride365 on June 10, 2014

      @almeren You can play solo so you don't need a dedicated game master and it sounds like people can drop in and out all the time. people can play one session and others can play the next session

    12. Creator almeren on June 9, 2014

      Thanks for the update. I am still hoping to get the game at some point this year, but I love your dedication to the quality of the project.
      Maybe this has been asked before, but for playing the game do I need a dedicated game master or can all players control the survivors and handle events etc. together?

    13. Creator Motor on June 6, 2014

      @Luke Roberts
      Amen. I've backed other mini kickstarters (Dreamforge, Bones I) in the past. I've counted from the start to pay +33% of my pledge total in taxes. It's just the way things are, and you have to plan accordingly.

    14. Creator Luke Roberts on June 6, 2014

      @Everyone,

      One thing I want to point out to International backers especially the EU backers is that international shippoing in most countries have changed since we first pledged to this kickstarter. In Australia, the cut off point for tax free shipments was reduced by several hundred dollars and for higher amounted supporters of the project that hits us with customs Taxes. however, customs taxes vs $45 International Postage. Have you bought anything from the KD web-store recently at all? My last order included satan, the Gold Smoke Knight and a single Pin-Up, interanational signed for postage cost me just shy of $45 for bugger all in weight items. The Kingdom death: Monster Core Game weighs 3.5 kilograms by itself. What were your pledges? Did you get multiple boxed games? I got a triple survivor and added 2 extra core boxed games on top of one each of all the expansions, the games aren't all for me, but I'm still only paying $45 for postage total and am recieving over 18 kilograms of product. Look at your own pledges and ask yourself this simple question:

      If you have to pay all your countries normal taxes on the pledges you have made when they get into your country, how much do you actually save if youw ere buying that pledge total normally and paying for the ACTUAL SHIPPING COST AND THE NORMAL TAXES? The answer is very simple; A crap tonne more because of how heavy the packages are even for just a core game or a survivor level alone. It could be far far worse for you all in terms of additional monies required, but Adam has stated he is doing everything in his power to make shipping to all backers as fair as possible within the confines of the law. If that means you have to pay your taxes, don't be all antsy about it - you should have understood this was a possibility before you pledged, and if you didn't, you now have months to save money to cover the expected taxes. In the end if you don't have to pay as many taxes as you might have to, you'll have saved a bunch of money, but regardless of any other factor, you are ALREADY SAVING A BUCKET ON POSTAGE COSTS, so chill out, because you aren't the only people who have to deal with import/export taxes and customs taxes but you also aren't paying the actual shipping costs and those aren't being asked for. Adam has stated that Kingdom death as a company will do what is in the best interests of as many people as possible but the company cannot be fiscally irresponsible. So sit back, chill out, and start saving money to cover any taxes that may or may not hit you when KD:M is delivered. It's not hard, and at the end of the day you are already saving a lot of money not just on postage but on retail costs, because those taxes would be significantly higher if actual retail prices were applied. So seriously, chill out.

    15. Creator Luke Roberts on June 6, 2014

      @Matthew Cantley,

      There have been updates showing the story-based events in a small print, and gear cards and other elements have been explained. The best thing is to lcick on adam's profile here on kickstarter and read through all his comments. There's a surprising amount of gameplay particulars revealed there such as when one can attempt a dodge roll against an attack and other odds and ends. In any case, read through the updates, there's a lot of rulebook excerpts in images that have been shown, even if in a smaller print to protect the KD:M brand and system from people ripping it off before it is commercially available.

    16. Creator Pride365 on May 31, 2014

      @Matthew Cantley KD is not going to release the rulebook, this has been said several times. Also gameplay vids will happen after shipping is done and I imagine any issues after shipping are taken care of as well. As for where things will be shipped from it will be New York, New York like all other KD stuff.

    17. Creator Matthew Cantley on May 30, 2014

      Can we get more gameplay videos or samples of the rulebook? I imagine that part of the game must be locked down by now. For the record, im okay if the game is terrible since I bought mainly for the great sculpts.

    18. Creator Matthew Cantley on May 30, 2014

      Are these going to ship in the order they were pledged? What country/state will they be shipping from?

    19. Creator Adrian Lovelace on May 28, 2014

      Fly somebody overseas to stay for a month and pack all the items up out there.. when they are done fly em back? lol

    20. Creator Gigi Maletti on May 28, 2014

      @Adam: thanks for the answer, I have no doubt that you are trying to be "EU Friendly". And I know that since the beginning of our "dream", you were saying that you were not certain about a possible shipment from within the EU. What I'm sayin in my two posts simply is: first - if the problem is only that I have to wait a couple of weeks more - of even a month for that matter - to get the shipment, well, this is not a problem for me if I can save around 400 USD. I wanted to let you know this, and maybe this is the EU backers feeling. Second I was answering to other backers complaining about the EU backers talking only about the taxes in an update that I must admit is filled with many important news. Well, maybe if I lived in the US with free shipping and VAT included in the price I would have said the same thing, suggesting a separate "update" where every foreign backer can whine about taxes and how life is unfair and maybe the creator can run a survey for the EU backers "Is it OK if I ship your boxes from -say- UK? Everybody be aware that you will receive them a month after the rest of the world". Besided that the game is turning out GREAT and I thank you for all the efferts you are putting in it :)

    21. Creator Kingdom Death on May 27, 2014

      @Gigi Maletti, I have addressed the topic in every update in the most open and responsible way I can. I have diligently explored options and since the project still is not finished, I cannot get final pricing on the options that seem the most plausible. I will remind you that ultimately I am not responsible nor can be held accountable for countries import / export laws, taxes, duties, VAT and local post office. The only thing I've said is that I would do my best within the confines of the law.

    22. Creator Lukas Farabee on May 25, 2014

      I don't know if this has been answered yet, but do we only have one more shot at the pledge manager, or can we make multiple purchases? Like, instead of paying $100 now, I pay like...25, then a week later pay for another 25 model?

    23. Creator Gigi Maletti on May 24, 2014

      @Pride I understand that there are many important things in the update and everybody is talking about the EU shipment. In my opinion you are right, in fact there should be an update regarding only the EU fullfilment, since this is a really important matter deserving a separate discussion between Adam and the EU backers.

    24. Creator Gigi Maletti on May 24, 2014

      I'm from Italy, we have really high custom fees (around 30% of the declare value plus the shipping expenses... yes we pay 30% also on the shipping expenses) and for the shipment option we strongly suggest the option n.1
      1. We pack everything domestically, the boxes are freight shipped to the EU and then a label is slapped on to each one and its mailed from within the EU.
      True it requires a double shipment but as for how customs work consider that you save one week for the custom inspection. I don't mind waiting some more time since me and my family pledges around 1200 USD worth of the game and around 400 USD for the customs would be a big hit... we prefer to save those money and spending them buying more sculpts from your shop.

    25. Creator Kingdom Death on May 23, 2014

      @Owen Brown, the gorm only has the large hands. I was never much a fan of the smaller ones.
      @robertharutos, I have plans for many more videos. But those won't be created until later. Right now I don't have the time to step away from the project to write, shoot, edit and produce videos.

      In regards to taxes / duties. I will do everything I can within the confines of the Law. Import fees and VAT are indeed a major concern. I am carefully taking into consideration everyones feelings on the matter. However, please be advised that I cannot control each countries / territories laws nor will I be held responsible for your local post office or customs agent. I however, will do everything I can short of jeopardizing the project! Thank you in advance for your understanding.

    26. Creator Darksteed on May 21, 2014

      @Marc

      Thanks Marc appreciate you letting me know. I only saw the update on May 10th then had to wait until payday. Guess I missed it. Dang.

    27. Creator Paul Howie on May 21, 2014

      Thanks Steve. I posted something similar (but less detailed) but it got lost in the pages of comments :-)

      So many people commenting but you're the first one who actually understands the difference between the options and the reason that I think #1 is the better decision.

      As I said before, I find the per-parcel fee that the shipping companies charge to be something of a con, so I'm not keen on feeding thousands of dollars into that little scheme. But even taking that away, it's still a better business decision to bulk ship. It does of course shift the burden of paying VAT / duty towards KD, but it also makes it easier to reduce that burden and should be paid for mostly by the reduced cost of shipping. Frankly, I wouldn't even mind if Adam sent me an invoice for my share of the VAT.

    28. Creator Steve Watmough on May 19, 2014

      @Adrien Boyeldieu Oh by the way - in the UK the duty / VAT calculation is based on the CIF price of the goods (Cost + Insurance + Freight) which means the value of shipping the goods is also included in the value for customs purposes. A difficult pill to swallow after another KS project decided to expedite shipments to their backers to keep them happy - and suddenly a $100 shipment doubled to over $200 because of the fedex charge - raising a duty/vat/clearance cost from around $30 to over $60. Just another thing to be wary of.

    29. Creator Steve Watmough on May 19, 2014

      @Adrien Boyeldieu I never said the VAT wouldn't be paid. I said I would rather not have to pay it. What @Adam is talking about using the lowest manufacturing cost is referred to as earlier sale, but I am unsure that it can be used in personal imports. Also when Reaper Miniatures tried this many UK packages got held by UK Customs pending a copy of the invoice - which reflected a far different price than the $100 reaper quoted on the package. The result - the UK importer had to pay on the full price of the invoice and questions were raised with Reaper - hence the change in shipping strategy on their second kickstarter. Also by using the earlier sales invoice @Adam would be disclosing his margins - something I doubt he would be keen to do. The best option for the EU backers would be the goods are shipped in bulk - which is cheaper and cleared in bulk - which is cheaper - an agent would normally charge around £40 for a clearance declaration for the entire shipment into the EU (as opposed to say £9 per single backer paying the clearance charge). Also if @Adam were to establish a presence in say the UK with a company he could ship to them using the earlier invoice price without anyone being none the wiser as to how much things cost. Just a thought. I have the money sat there waiting - but I would really like to see something when so many other (smaller funded) kickstarters manage to do it.

    30. Creator Adrien Boyeldieu on May 19, 2014

      @Fontaine Christophe, this is all I've been able to find in English:

      "VAT Rates

      The standard VAT rate for importing items into France is 19.6%, with certain products, for example books, attracting VAT at the reduced rate of 5.5%. VAT is calculated on the value of the goods, plus the international shipping costs and insurance, plus any import duty due.

      Minimum thresholds

      For imports into France, there is a minimum threshold below which duty is waived.

      Duty is not charged if the FOB value, i.e. the value of the goods excluding shipping and insurance cost, does not exceed €150. VAT is always payable."

      According to this, in France, you should ALWAYS pay for VAT on anything you receive that is coming from outside the EC regardless of the value. In the UK, we can have it waived if the value of the item is below £15. Check with your local authority, in your case www.douane.gouv.fr . I can't access that website from work to tell you more, unfortunately.

    31. Creator Jon Larsen on May 18, 2014

      I am hearing what you're saying.

      And what you're not.

      But...let it be known I don't mind the ballooning plastic size to >greater # of details the medium isn't capable of delivering when at the same size as resin. It's not like I'll have both to display side by side... :)

    32. Creator Andrew Williams on May 18, 2014

      @Pride, @Luke, I actually don't have a consolation in mind there. In order to minimize spoilers for everyone, and because I imagine there are fewer EU and RoW orders than US, I believe it would be a wise decision to ship to them first. I would even say that is there was a solution found for them. Even with that, they will probably get the boxes after the US. But hey, everyone is allowed to dream a bit, and if they are lucky they get nightmares of KD!

    33. Creator Pride365 on May 18, 2014

      @Andrew Williams Why should they have a consolation for something that has always been a maybe?

    34. Creator Marc Aranha on May 18, 2014

      @Robert & Darksteed - They were on sale from April 28 - May 16th.

    35. Creator Alan Garvey on May 18, 2014

      @ Pride, that's fair enough, you've every right to be irked by what irks you - you don't need to respond to it every time tho' ;-)

      @ Andrew Williams - thanks for being so considerate and understanding, a redistribution of wealth that way is exactly what I had in mind - money for minis, not the taxman. Would rather do that than receive the game first tho', I've learned to be patient!

      @ Nicolas - I too hope there'll be an EU distributor soon, it just seems pointless to me to get one after the KS ships instead of before it. Reviews will be some time down the road...

    36. Creator Robert Wilson on May 18, 2014

      Yeah... same boat. Pre-order is already closed?

    37. Creator Darksteed on May 18, 2014

      How come I couldn't pre-order Satan? Was there a limited encore pre-order as well? What the Heck...

    38. Creator Walker Crawford on May 18, 2014

      @robertharutos Adam has said that he wants to do more game-play videos, but he doesn't have the time currently; he plans to do them once the game is out,

    39. Creator robertharutos on May 18, 2014

      @ Adam Poots

      I have an issue that I've sent to you via email. I'm just curious as to how swamped the inbox is for you guys to check on a daily basis?

      On a different note, what are the chances of you guys doing more videos on the game play and world of Kingdom Death: Monster? If so would the structure of the videos be any different to the two you have done before?

    40. Creator Andrew Williams on May 17, 2014

      @Pride, if I understand the EU folk, many of them have the money set aside, but a number of them would like confirmation for what is happening to give them the opportunity to use it to support Kingdom Death.
      As an aside, I hope that Adam considers shipping out of the US first. For one, it will take a little longer to get it over there. Secondly, if they do have to pay taxes on it, at least they will know it was sent out first as a consolation. Finally, and this goes along with the first point, it will help get everyone the game at close to the same time, and minimize spoilers. Note that I am in the US.

    41. Creator Pride365 on May 17, 2014

      @Alan Garvey We are not going to see eye to eye about this I would have had tax money set aside no matter what was going on as EU distribution has always been a maybe and I think anyone who is responsible would have done that, but clearly people haven't and I have to hear about people being irresponsible which is annoying. Also KD has said official forums are not a priority right now and won't be for awhile so we deal with what we have for now.

    42. Creator Nicolas Le Baut on May 17, 2014

      @ Alan Yes i see what you mean. I really hope there will be a european distribution of the game one day too. Maybe some great reviews of the game will help later in the process!

    43. Creator Alan Garvey on May 17, 2014

      @ Nicholas, what concerns me is that now it seems there will be no such thing as a European retailer or distributor, ever. And that doesn't bode well for the future of the game outside of the US.

    44. Creator Alan Garvey on May 17, 2014

      @ Pride, if you think this is an issue of what people should and shouldn't do, then perhaps treating a Kickstarter comment page like a fan forum where criticism is seen as intolerable isn't the best idea either. This is a place for backers to air their concerns, whatever they may be - fan fiction, art, galleries, painting guides etc should have a more permanent and organised home, a forum, something long overdue for KD - don't you think?

    45. Creator Nicolas Le Baut on May 17, 2014

      6 month ago the information about european delivery was "Will not be finalized until everything is checked and packed in our warehouse. Once we have all the final numbers I will finalize the best way to ship everything. Our current plan is to pack every single reward box and then work with a shipping company to pick everything up, bulk import it and then ship it all from a single point in the EU with a customs declaration equal to the reward level. We are exploring all options to make this as ideal as possible for EU backers. Please be aware that this plan is subject to change." And now the delivery strategy radically changes, meaning some hundreds dollars more for each concerned person. That's why people who guess during the last 6 month they will avoid those fees feel concerned today. Finally the only person who can take the final decision would be Adam, but i think that people could explain themselfs freely before he does.

    46. Creator Pride365 on May 17, 2014

      @Alan Garvey A concern they should have taken care of months ago. If I had been a international backer I would have been putting aside money for taxes already and not asking Adam to take care of it for me. This isn't new that they have to pay taxes so I don't get how it is a big deal now.

    47. Creator Alan Garvey on May 16, 2014

      @ Pride - if you have to read it for five pages of comments then that would seem to be a serious concern for a lot of backers, wouldn't it? Now, would you mind telling me how you somehow have a right to be undisturbed by others' views, particularly when they are equal to you in every way here? You're one of 5,410+ backers who threw money behind this, Pride, OK?

    48. Creator Noelle on May 16, 2014

      Did I miss reread the Satan encore's end date or did it sell out? I thought I had until the end of today (payday!!!) to get it, but it doesn't look like it's available to order =/

    49. Creator Fontaine Christophe on May 16, 2014

      @ Adrien : I see, but how come I have already ordered stuff from the US (I live in France) and never had to pay for VAT? (well I think I did once)

    50. Creator Pride365 on May 16, 2014

      @Gantz Then dont doubt.