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@Michael Berné, @Daniel M all theories aside, as we sort of are intrinsically a mini's company. A game without them is not Adam's vision.
@Daniel ||| I remember that comment and story. i still agree with what other folks said at the time; Everyone who showed up at his booth was expecting to pay $400 for a copy. If he had announced the mini-less version it would have told.
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@Michael Berné here is the exact quote from Dec 7, 2016
"you know. Internally we had a lot of talk about this. I even have a quote for the core game with no mini's and just tokens sitting in my inbox. I decided I would let GenCon 2016 help me with the choice. We brought our last 50 off units to the show, they had no models in them as they were factory defects. We also brought enough sets of models (packed separately) to sell a la cart. Day 1, hour 1, we had a line that wrapped around many other booths and we got in trouble with the gencon police! We sold all of our games and here was the part that spoke to me... we only sold 5 games without miniatures. EVERYONE wanted them. The number of times I said: "Are you sure? Just the base game with no models is $100, with everything its $400" The models to me are an essential part of the experience and it seems the overwhelming majority feels the same way. Therefore I can say: We have ZERO plans to release our game or its expansions without miniatures."
@Michael Berné The mini-less copies were an experiment they tried. After some people begged that a cheaper mini-less version of the game be made, they brought a bunch of copies that had no minis, because they used them for replacements, and sold it for $100. They barely sold any. People still preferred the normal version. This convinced Adam there is not enough demand for a mini-less version to make creating one worthwhile.
@Emanuelle Avila Rodriguez For the first KS, they were able to set up distribution centers in Germany, Australia and Canada. So from what I understand there was no vat for the first ks. However, Adam has said he is not promising that this time. He will do his best to do it again, but will not guarantee it. So plan to pay vats just in case, but hopefully you will not have to.
@Trunkmonkey As far as monsters go, the phoenix and kingsmen are the next group, than the hand and watcher.
Survivors are more complicated. Rawhide, leather and lion are going to be what is available early, but what the survivors will end up using is up to them and what innovations get developed.
@Trunkmonkey The butcher and antelope need to be done next.
@xero Yes, I realize that. I just thought the custom aspect was the suited guy. XD
Also both the saviors(40 & 80?) were on ebay for about 200 dollars each. They didnt last long @.@ intense
I would like to paint all the miniatures after the game arrives. Is there a recommended order I should paint them? The 4 starting survivors and the lion is pretty obvious but after that?
@Sethtapong Kangwanlerturai Fastest way to check for new posts by Poots: https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/poots/comments
And yes he did post recently.
I didn't check comments in here for a fews weeks, Did Poots update anything?
For the guys who own the game. I saw that cards are american size not european.
I can easily find sleeves with 63.5x89 measurement, but american in EU shops is not that good, and more expensive. Would you recomment using the loose 63.5x89 sleeves or just go with the tight fit of 57x89 sleeves?
@Rykian19th - Under the picture it says scratchbuilt so I'm pretty sure the entire thing is a custom job.
I went to GenCon last year just to do it. I say do it once and then determine if it is for you. I will just order my games online and Kickstarter and save my money.
Hello ppls have you seen the crystal brush winner
anyone know what wolf is that from?
Lol, I saw this video a few minutes ago and had to share it.
Let´s hope this campaign doesn´t turn out like this.
@here i have a serious question, for any rest of the world how many taxes did you pay for the first ks?? And are we expecting to pay for the second?? I am quite terrified when i hear that someone ordered a mini from the store and they are paying 80+ in taxes... just for minis not the complete game
@Taryn, Once the products are ready to ship, the Pledge Manager will reopen. This will allow everyone the opportunity to pay their shipping fees and to update any address changes that may have occurred.
Question- my shipping address has changed, how do I adjust it for the game shipment?
@Michael, I wouldn't. Those were only manufacturing proofs. I seriously doubt that Poots would have any more made for GenCon. He has been adamantly against a mini-less version of KD:M every time it has been brought up.
Didn't one of the KDM showings at a Gencon also include no-minis copies of KDM? Go there hoping to find one, maybe?
:'[ it is just as a feared then. I asked because i wont be able to make it the first day due to comic con in chicago
Which KS were you referring to about the old school MMOs?
@Crexas Reports from Gencon2016 was that they sold out their stock on hand for the first day (possibly on the second day as well), but that they did have more stock day-by-day. So, early birds ate all the worms that were showing, and later birds came back and ate the worms that appeared later.
...They did have a friggin huge line that first day, though. So bad that the fire marshals came over to have a chat with Poots about the hazard. So, get there early.
In Poots We Trust.
People who have been to gencon, does kdm items (and other gencon exclusives/early releases) sell out the first day or is there a good chance to still get things on the second day?
It's great that you guys don't mind. I do. Updates make my poop time fly by.
There's only so many poop hours you can spend rereading the same updates.
While waiting for dark souls and kingdom death to come, I bought a rawhide armor set off ebay, and just magnetized the first few parts, it took about 2 hours, but i have my first legs, torso and head magnetized. and its just magical.
Poots has always been a perfectionist. So i dont really mind him taking his time with updates. I just hope things work out like he wants and he wont have to scrap a expansion like the lantern festival.
I'm surprisingly ok with no updates, and will be even more if we get our game before christmas.
Poots was on here just yesteday. We get an update, when it's ready...
I'm kinda anxious... it's been a while since we heard something...
Does anyone knows where I can find the size of all minis (base size and hight) ?
Looks like I'll get to go to GenCon this year. My partner's game company (eviloverlordgames.com) is partnering with the GenCon folks for some promotional things and I'll get to tag along and maybe run some demos of my game (fallofthelastcity.com). KDM will be there right?
GenCon is THE gaming convention (for us ignorant), right?
It's the biggest, yes?
i think i have everyone beat for closeness, i live 30 minutes away, and work about a 5 minute walk from where its held :D
Wow I guess the ticket isn't that bad if it's $90. There's still airfare and motel/hotel expenses. I guess it all adds up...
I have a friend who lives in Beech Grove
@Vecks, where are you from? I live in Evansville IN
Gencon is a blast. A friend and I have gone for the past 4 years. We also only live about an hour from Indianapolis so we just drive back and forth each day. Gas parking and food equals to about the cost of s hotel so it all works out.
Really, really hope to be able to go to Gencon one of these days...
You try sitting and dancing around at the same time. ;)
Just sitting around reading Robert W. Chambers King in Yellow...in reverse while dancing widershins about the plain of faces.
Seems like that sleeve kickstarter is going into full gear with fulfillement soon, got an update email.
Looking forward to the update from Adam. :)
If you like old school mmo's, there's a kickstarter to check out.
Hey any idea on an exact date just yet
In the rubble, the face plain rubble, the lion sleeps tonight...coffee and clipping sprues...anyone? G'morning.
@B Yes but does he have to go out of his way to double-curse MY dice in particular? It seems a bit much at times. -_-'
I live in Indiana, so it seems a shame not to go. It was actually more affordable to go than I thought for the actual admission price, it's $90 for all 4 days. Less than $25 a day seems more than fair (of course there's traveling expenses and stay expenses).