I am getting concerned about the size of these figures. See again my repeated issues with the lack of transportability of CW due to too many too large figures. Please include tokens for use when the figs are too much to bring.

Love it! Curious, when destroyed, is the VN Beast only destroyed in the hex where the battle took place, or are all beasts in all hexes destroyed? If the former, can the destroyed beast 'fractal" be re-replicated later?

Also, thanks for making me read up on VN.... cool stuff...

Wiki...

Von Neumann Paradox
Building on the work of Felix Hausdorff and Giuseppe Vitali, in 1924 Stefan Banach and Alfred Tarski proved that given a solid ball in 3‑dimensional space, there exists a decomposition of the ball into a finite number of disjoint subsets, that can be reassembled together in a different way to yield two identical copies of the original ball. Banach and Tarski proved that, using isometric transformations, the result of taking apart and reassembling a two-dimensional figure would necessarily have the same area as the original. This would make creating two unit squares out of one impossible. However, in a 1929 paper,[66] von Neumann proved that paradoxical decompositions could use a group of transformations that include as a subgroup a free group with two generators. The group of area-preserving transformations contains such subgroups, and this opens the possibility of performing paradoxical decompositions using these subgroups. The class of groups isolated by von Neumann in his work on Banach–Tarski decompositions subsequently was very important for many areas of mathematics, including von Neumann's own later work in measure theory (see below).

@dande48: It's in the second paragraph: "But with the Von Neumann Beast, you get 6 figures, each somewhat smaller than the Space Amoeba (but still pretty big)." :)

## Hound of Tindalos
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They all fit in via the van Neuman principle :)

## Sandy Petersen 25-time creator
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All the space monsters fit in one box.

## Elliot Jenner on

I am getting concerned about the size of these figures. See again my repeated issues with the lack of transportability of CW due to too many too large figures. Please include tokens for use when the figs are too much to bring.

## CJ Wilckens
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Love it! Curious, when destroyed, is the VN Beast only destroyed in the hex where the battle took place, or are all beasts in all hexes destroyed? If the former, can the destroyed beast 'fractal" be re-replicated later?

## Hound of Tindalos
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Also, thanks for making me read up on VN.... cool stuff...

Wiki...

Von Neumann Paradox

Building on the work of Felix Hausdorff and Giuseppe Vitali, in 1924 Stefan Banach and Alfred Tarski proved that given a solid ball in 3‑dimensional space, there exists a decomposition of the ball into a finite number of disjoint subsets, that can be reassembled together in a different way to yield two identical copies of the original ball. Banach and Tarski proved that, using isometric transformations, the result of taking apart and reassembling a two-dimensional figure would necessarily have the same area as the original. This would make creating two unit squares out of one impossible. However, in a 1929 paper,[66] von Neumann proved that paradoxical decompositions could use a group of transformations that include as a subgroup a free group with two generators. The group of area-preserving transformations contains such subgroups, and this opens the possibility of performing paradoxical decompositions using these subgroups. The class of groups isolated by von Neumann in his work on Banach–Tarski decompositions subsequently was very important for many areas of mathematics, including von Neumann's own later work in measure theory (see below).

Plus he founded GAME THEORY!!! coolio

## Hound of Tindalos
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Daoloth lives!!!!!

## Manuel Tants on

@dande48: It's in the second paragraph: "But with the Von Neumann Beast, you get 6 figures, each somewhat smaller than the Space Amoeba (but still pretty big)." :)

## dande48 on

How many Von-Neumann beasts do we get? Or are the copies just tokens?

## Sandy Petersen 25-time creator
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i really like Kent's art for the Von Neumann Beast. Also, if it's not clear, this is the monster I referenced in Playtest Story Two: Monsterfest in https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/petersengames/hyperspace/posts/2411614

## Patrick McGrath on

It is like the Christmas tree from hell. It is the gift that keeps on giving. What a great monster!

## Shawn Charney [TundraThunder] on

Wow! This sculpt and monster ability is REALLY awesome! I can't wait to see this in actual gameplay. Happy to be All-In!

## Duncan on

I've gotta say, these monsters are possibly the coolest thing about this Kickstarter. Keep 'em coming :)