by Obsidian Entertainment
Michael: pretty sure thats not correct. I recently tested a new game that was released just a few months ago on steam and it worked just clicking the exe without steam running.
Speaking of old-school RPGs, the folks who made the Quest for Glory series are also in need of backing for their latest project. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1878147873/hero-u-rogue-to-redemption
@ThomasN have no clue what you are talking about, my steam folder works after every format that follows my hardware upgrade it's equal to changing a PC thought if you want to move from PC WIN to LINUX then you have a problem.
Attention: a lot of people have been spamming links to support Shaker.
Please be aware that project is cancelled and for very good reasons.
ET3D: If you copy a STEAM game folder to some other PC and try to run it, it will not work. Now you can call that what you want, because I will call that DRM.
Thanks for the link to the Cory Doctorow article.
Gary Doctorow did this excellent piece on the changing digital landscape and DRM:
Oops, I forgot a word - "[...] give the buried colossus calves [...]"
Could we please get the art for the mega dungeon updated for the full 15 levels? The two more slices should be enough to give buried colossus calves and feet, so we can finally see him from head to toe...
As Gorthauer said, raise awareness for SHAKER here on Kickstarter, they seem to need it!
Hello, Obsidian Intertainment developers!
I love your games so much, starting from Fallout and Bloodlines, and ending with my favourite Neverwinter Nights 2 (replaying it now) and New Vegas.
I'm very glad with your new game announcement, Project Eternity.
BUT! As you've already scored the success and collected most funds - would you please turn to players in your next update, asking them to support less legendary devs with their project Shaker on Kickstarter.
Because you've already achieved 100% goal and even set up the new funding record. And they have to get atleast announced minimum (1 000 000$).
Too few worthy old-school RPG's are released nowadays, their project can't even rival yours (another genre, weaker crew)...I wouldn't like another great game become dead without a birth.
Please show solidarity to Shaker-RPG devs and support less lucky associates.
Your words mean much for players. And if you ask them for support in your next update - you can save as Shaker project as prevent COMPANY RUIN.
Hope for your mercy.
Sincerely yours, Gorthauer.
I'd like to say here something I already said on the forum: Steam does not imply DRM. It's a pity that Obsidian thinks it does, and hopefully they'll realise it doesn't.
There are many DRM free games on Steam. These can be launched by running their executable without having Steam running. Some can even be copied to another PC and run as is, without the need to install anything (including Steam).
It would be best if Obsidian made sure that the game can run this way. Steam is a good distribution platform, and if the game can use it and be DRM free that would be the best of both worlds.
@Erich they finally fixed that maybe less than a month ago (About time, definitely)
Previously Steam created the files it needed for offline mode when you exited it... Which meant you had to be connected at that point for it to work, and deleted them again when you started in online mode again meaning it was very easy for you to be left with it totally broken. I believe now it creates the files when you connect to steam and keeps them until the start up again, at which point it overwrites them with a new set.
It took them ridiculously long to fix, but it's worked as intended for me on a number of occasions now.
@T.J. I like having the option to not use Steam, though. It's important to me, especially when Steam has proven to me that it won't go into offline mode "without first logging in online" when my ISP has a major outage. Those were two weeks I really could have used access to my games :|
The above link to the Twitch TV live stream is broken, use this one:
But... I've created a forum account but still haven't received my confirmation mail
Steam is going to target ubuntu only at first. I absolutely don't want to use ubuntu as a desktop-platform, and if I don't cooperate with other on external projects I avoid it altogether.
Desura is available for windows+linux+mac with the option to download without the desura client installed which is very neat. They don't even require DRM.
I know that linux is not the easiest platform for binary compability, but please don't add any artificial checks for a specific distribution that can't be overridden with a command line parameter. I accept that you don't officially support every distribution, but if needed we could probably provide the compability layer ourselves. The linux community have quite a lot of clever people.
Wooo! So, for the extra $160k over the game improvement bonus... I ask for you to hire a pure AI guy :)
That is likely Mac given the strong hint in the update above.
Yes, that is correct.
@korresh - It's not Linux.
"We've seen a lot more of you guys voting on this wish recently and I thought it was only fair for me to update you. Linux is a great platform, and we love how much passion you guys are showing for it here on our wishlist. We definitely know that it's one of the top things our community wants from us, but it's also really difficult to bring the GOG.com level of support and ease-of-use to the wide variety of distros that are commonly used by Linux users. If we're able to bring GOG.com games to Linux--and we're constantly evaluating ways that we can do this--we want to make sure that we're doing it the GOG.com way: simple, easy, and it "just works." I'm not telling you guys to give up hope--we know how much you want this--but what I am saying is that this is harder to support than it might seem initially, and we're not ready to move to support Linux officially just yet."
Where can I see the mega dungeon 15 level consept art??
Well, this ended even better than I expected! Awesome, now I'm going to hope that the gentlemen from Obsidian won't rush the game.
The word you're looking for is "lose".
Pretty sure, they will. http://www.thewitcher.com/community/entry/306 "Speaking of new operating systems, GOG.com will also be announcing that it is bringing the best PC games from throughout history to a new operating system. "
Thanks, Matthew. That's I what expected, but I wanted to get a second opinion ;)
Guys, please push GOG to support Linux as well ;) (wink,wink)
The Twitch TV link is broken... Somebody probably partied -too- appropriately hard last night... ;)
DRM isn't an inherent part of Steam. Dungeons of Dredmor, for example, uses Steam achievements and Steam Cloud, but can be copied out of the Steam directory, be moved as you like and still be completely playable entirely detached from Steam. You just loose access to the Steam specific features.
Nice! So when will the Endless Paths picture be updated to 15 levels? I want to see the rest of it! :-D
you will be able to choose what version (GoG or steam) per key, so you will get a choice
So how long will the paypal shop remain open? I am interested in getting the Digital Audio Novella from Chris Avellone, but as funds were tight, I couldn't pledge higher to get it, but would you consider keeping that and Digital Campaign Almanac accessible from the paypal shop? (not that I need the second one, as the $80 includes it) but some might be interested in getting it, if they haven#t already
but the paypal shop is going down for good, how long do I have before it sloes and I lose my chance of getting the first item?
Please also keep updating here on Kickstarter; some of us (many? certainly me) don't want to have to register for yet another forum …
@Lazygamer313, you chose your name wisely. Just *read* the update you are commenting! :)
"How do PayPal backers affect the Mega Dungeon size?
It counts toward the Mega Dungeon! We hit fifteen (15!!!!) levels!"
Does anyone know if I pledged for a tier with an extra download of the game, can I get separate one GOG and one STEAM key? Thanks, Obsidian, for this last month :D
@Lazygamer313: Yes. The mega dungeon was at 13 levels before. Since the number of backers is over 77,500, there are now 15 levels in the dungeon as said near the beginning of this update.
Nice to see that the Project is funded, but I have one question. Since we have a grand total of over 75,000 backers do we have the "Next Mega Dungeon" level that was pointed out on Kickstarter?
Noooo! Adam! What happened to your flv file of your IWD2 playthrough!? :(
Never again will we see the Door in all it's charismatic glory...
Supper happy about everything else, just joined the forums and I can't wait to be a part of the community.
Thank you all for everything, and that includes the backers. Could we hit 16, OR EVEN 17 LEVELS DEEP!!!?
Ooo the tension is delicious XD
I actually feel proud to have been a (very small) part of this. I am looking forward to updates as the game is developed. By the way, Arcanum rocks.
HURRAH!! We did great! Fourteen levels? Four million dollars? Four something else?? AWESOME :D. I want to congratulate the team on the best run kickstarter I've yet seen. You folks really produced finished, professional quality stuff to entice us all on this adventure, and did it with an engaging and passionate style (and happily a bit of humour too :D). Even several other industry veterans haven't succeeded at this! I'm hyped to experience your fine game once it's done, and I'm actually motivated to keep in touch via the PE forums. I think everyone should pat themselves on the back for this one; this must be some sort of record for the fastest created cult following ever :D. You've won a fan, and one that's not ashamed to admit it :D. I love what you've made so far, and I'll enjoy the new adventure of the game actually being made :D. Once again, thanks a lot for your wonderful kickstarter drive, and I look forward to talking with the team over the next year (and beyond?!) on the Obsidian forums :D.
P.S. You're SO good at this, I'm even somehow exited for an expansion pack to a game that hasn't been made yet! I don't know; this is some sort of legendary thing you've done :D
imma laugh my ass off if every level of the super dungeon is a 5' by 5' area :P
re: T.J Brumfield "And people should stop freaking out about Steam. It is about as light of DRM as you can find."
To borrow from classics... It may very well be the gentlest kick in the balls that you can get, and executed with the best of intentions, but at the end of the day you're still walking funny.
I wonder if Chris's playthrough of Arcanum will influence aspects of Eternity in a good way. It'd be nice to get some Troika love back into gaming, besides Deus Ex Human Revolution.
I hope Mega Dungeon has an freight elevator and maybe a pack mule, 15 levels is a long climb to haul treasure up.
So if, according to the graphic on the main page, LVL 14 on the dungeon was at 75k backers and there is a new lvl for every 2500 backers AND you ended up with 77,667 backers total, doesn't that mean that there should be 15 levels?
So how about art with 15 levels dungeon?
Congrats guys! How limited it this limited time frame? I really wanted to pledge in more, but my immediate finances prevented me. With a time frame/deadline, I can aggressively scrounge and know exactly what I'll be able to aim for.
I've never played a game quite like this before, but I'm very much looking forward to it!
AAA budgets range into the hundreds of millions. Kickstarter is never going to be an alternative for large budget game development.
@Feargus - If GOG doesn't support Linux by then, don't forget to check the Humble Store. They support all three platforms.
@Feargus - You forgot the most important part of the update, the 15 level dungeon image. Or are you waiting to see if we hit 16 before you close PayPal?