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Space 4X game Predestination is nearing completion. We secured local funding towards a 3D ship designer, so we need your support again.
We secured local funding towards a 3D ship designer for Predestination, and your Kickstarter support made it even better. Now you can see the game on Steam!
We secured local funding towards a 3D ship designer for Predestination, and your Kickstarter support made it even better. Now you can see the game on Steam!
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Development Update: May 2014 – Augmented planet gameplay, Beta feedback, and Diplomacy

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The first iteration of the Galaxy beta has now been in backers' hands for just over a month, and we've been working hard on fixing bugs and addressing the gameplay issues it raised. Your bug reports have helped us track down and fix several major crashes and game-breaking bugs, and your feedback is helping to direct Predestination's development. Feedback from the Galaxy beta indicates that the planetary gameplay needs more work, performance needs to be improved on low-end systems, and areas like the research system could use a little more work, so that's exactly what we're doing.

3D Ship Designer: For everyone who's excited specifically for the 3D Ship Designer, I'm happy to announce that the designer's core mechanics are all working and it's been integrated successfully with the game. We've got some pretty awesome finished models for the Renegades ships that are currently being textured, and they'll be imported into the designer for internal testing when they're done. Barring any unexpected problems, we'll then be able to release a 3D Ship Designer prototype for backer testing.

Schedules and Release Dates: As we're now well into June, there have been a few requests for an updated release schedule. We're quickly learning that game development isn't an exact science, that not everything goes to plan and that most games go through delays and feature cutbacks as they approach completion. Our number one commitment has always been to make Predestination the best 4X game we possibly can with the limited resources available to us, and to iterate on the core gameplay until it feels right. That means we're never able to fully guarantee a release date or a schedule for future stages of testing, but the tradeoff is that we definitely won't push the game out the door in an unfinished or unplayable state.

What we can promise is that we'll continue releasing our monthly development updates to keep you up to date on how the game is progressing, and that we'll listen to your feedback and ideas at every step of the way. In this month's development update, I'll run down all of the major changes being made in response to your feedback on the Galaxy Beta. These changes will be released later this month as part of Galaxy Beta V2.0, and we're keen to hear your thoughts on the changes now. We've started a poll and discussion thread over on the Predestination forums and would love to hear your thoughts on the information below:

For the Galaxy beta, we reduced the size of the planets and the number of resources on each to make it easier to manage multiple planets. Feedback suggests that this worked, but that players would like to see some more engaging and interesting gameplay on planets.

Right now, you build extractor on deposits to automatically link them to the nearest city, and they're then globally accessible in colonies all over the planet. It was all too simple, with not much strategic planning in city placement and no real opportunity for conflict. Your planet's stats when fully colonised also felt pre-determined by what deposits were present, and there were no real strategic tradeoffs to make. To fix those problems, we have four major changes/features:

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The old boring system of linking to resource deposits is dead and gone! In Galaxy Beta V2.0, you’ll build roads on the planet grid out from your city to link up with deposits. Each section of road costs money and metal, and you can bomb enemy roads to disconnect key deposits from a city. We’ve also reduced the size of each city’s territory to just the six hexes surrounding the main city, so deposits inside the territory are close enough that they don’t require roads and so can’t be disrupted in this manner.

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The big change that comes with roads is that resource deposits will no longer be globally accessible. Many of our testers actually didn’t realise deposits were global in the beta, so we think it’ll be much more intuitive to make them link to individual cities. Each city now has a territory of six hexes, each of which can contain either a deposit or a road leading out to a deposit, imposing a natural limit of 6 deposits connected to each city. I think this makes a lot more sense and should be more interesting to manage.

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To make blueprints more useful and deposits more intuitive, we’re moving buildings like the Research Lab and Ore Refinery out of the city and onto the deposit itself instead as a piece of “Infrastructure”. Each piece of infrastructure will cost metal and money to build, consumes energy, has an upkeep cost per turn, and needs a certain number of workers to operate. Energy and workers are sourced from the city that the road leads to. Cities are now mainly residential, so blueprints work nicely and we can make cities smaller.

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The 6-deposit-per-city limit also means that we can add more resource deposits to a planet through technologies or random events to increase the number of options available without disrupting game balance. Since each hex in a city’s territory is equivalent to a single deposit, we can even let players build some deposits. For example, a Hydroponic Farm Infrastructure could be built next to your city that would act like a Farm that doesn’t need a food deposit, allowing you to properly colonise barren planets.

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We got a lot of work done on the Diplomacy system this month, including the first generation of the diplomatic AI and most of the diplomacy screen’s user interface. You can currently add spare resource deposits, money and technologies to your offer and demand the same from the opposing race, who will decide whether to accept or decline. You can also add mutual relationship offers to your deals, like non-aggression pacts and alliances.

For those who like to play the puppet master pulling the strings in the background, we’re adding the ability to demand that a race declares war on another or breaks its alliances. You’ll have to give up some seriously valuable tech and resources to make that deal appealing, or offer your own hand in friendship (backed with a powerful military) in return. Below is a screenshot of the current work-in-progress version of the Diplomacy Screen:

Work still to be done on the diplomacy system before it can be released for testing includes:

  • Favour system: This will track of positive things you’ve done like good deals or gifts, and negative things such as greedy deals in your favour, wars or breaking peace treaties with other nations. AI races will remember your past actions and react accordingly.
  • Racial variations: Certain races prefer technology over resources, and will value their preferred choices more.
  • Counter-Offers: The AI needs to be able to make counter-offers and contact you with its own offers, so we need an algorithm to come up with those offers.
  • Exporting deposits: We need to add a piece of infrastructure for exporting deposits from planets for trade. This will be used to send deposits to another planet in your empire, or to offer them for trade in diplomacy. We also need a system for selecting where you want the deposits you gain from trade to go.

Other ideas we have in the pipeline that aren’t essential but would be nice to add include:

  • Threaten system: For those who like to play the warmongering races, you should be able to add threats to your diplomatic offers. Threaten to declare war if they don’t give you want you want, and they might take you a bit more seriously if your military is stronger than theirs.
  • Offering ships etc: We plan to let you offer your ships and solar systems in a trade.
  • Advisors: Some commanders you hire could also be diplomatic advisors, specialising in military, science, spying, or planetary management. They could give you hints during diplomatic negotiations, letting you know what the enemy thinks of your military strength, whether they’re in dire need of a particular resource, or if they really need a certain technology and will pay over the odds for it.

As always, we’d love to hear what you have to say about the latest developments. Leave us a comment here on Kickstarter or head over to our forum to let us know!

Cheers,

-- Brendan, Lead Developer

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    1. Garrett Miles on June 12, 2014

      Hey guys,

      Thank you for such a detailed update! I know it takes alot of time and effort to put these updates together so thank you for keeping us up to date. It's great to see how much ground you guys cover each month as well as seeing behind dev the scenes.

      I'm not only looking forward to the finished game but seeing how the development evolves along the way. Keep up the great work and thank you for keeping us in the loop!

      Cheers,

      Garrett