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You did it: you brought back MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000! Thanks to you, MST3K shot FOURTEEN NEW EPISODES in 2016, including a new holiday special, and returned in 2017 on Netflix!
You did it: you brought back MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000! Thanks to you, MST3K shot FOURTEEN NEW EPISODES in 2016, including a new holiday special, and returned in 2017 on Netflix!
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Annnnnd... we're back! A Long Overdue Update on Season 12. PLUS: Final S11 Rewards + New S12 Rewards!

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Dear MST3K Revival League,

It's me, Joel. I know, it's been a long time since the last update – but I'm glad to tell you that there's a good reason for that. Since the beginning of this year, we've been back at work preparing for the next season of Mystery Science Theater 3000, and things are going really well. 

And you know, I thought this might be a good time to finally send an update and catch up for a few minutes, because I've got some good news:

We're going back into the studio on Monday to shoot the next season of Mystery Science Theater 3000!

And since a lot has happened this year, there are a few important updates about the new season that I want to share before that happens... so I guess we should get right to it.

New Season… New Experiment!

As you know, I never like to give away too much about the new episodes ahead of time, since I want the experience of seeing them to be a fun surprise for everyone.

So, before you ask, I'm still not going to tell you what movies Jonah and the Bots will be riffing this season… but I will tell you that this season's movies include one that I know a lot of you have asked us to riff in the past, and also one that was made in the last five years!

Now, I've got to tell you, being on Netflix – and in over 100 million homes! – has been a really good thing for MST3K. It feels good having Season 11 under our belts and received so warmly, so that's been giving us a lot of good momentum this time.

But you know, it's also been really helpful seeing so much feedback from all of you, and I think you'll be pleased to see a bunch of your suggestions manifested in this next batch of new shows. It's never a good idea to try to make a show "by committee," but I think hearing from so many of you helped us see some things about the new episodes that we might not have noticed or thought about.

I guess what I'm trying to say is… thanks for the help!

Anyway, yeah, I never want to share too much about the new episodes before you get to see them… but one of the big creative challenges that really interested me this time around was how to tweak the Forrester experiments to take advantage of Netflix's strengths, and the way people binge-view shows.

(Think about it: binge-watching the last season of Stranger Things took 540 minutes… but binge-watching the last season of Mystery Science Theater took 1,260 minutes! Especially for new or "casual" viewers, I'm worried that could be a little overwhelming, and maybe keep them from giving the show a chance.)

So, this time around, the entire "concept" of the season will be a little different, and warped in a really fun way, which I think will make the whole series of movies "hang together" as a season. I'm not going to tell you the concept yet, but...

The next season of Mystery Science Theater 3000 will be SIX EPISODES long, and written to encourage binge viewing!

And you know, the other nice thing about this plan is that, by focusing on just six episodes this time around, we're able to get them written, shot and edited a lot faster! That hopefully also means we'll be able to show them to you a lot sooner, so that you don't have to wait as long for your next "fix" of Mystery Science Theater.

On a creative level, it’s a much more fun way to work. And I hope that shows in the new season. Truth be told, as much as I loved making 14 feature-length episodes of MST3K, it’s hard sometimes to get your arms around that much content all at once. So, this season allowed us to focus more, and have a better sense of the whole picture.

Anyway, I know a lot of you have been wondering what's happening with the new season, and I didn't want to start shooting without letting you know how things are going. You – the MST3K Revival League – are the reason we've got another season of Mystery Science Theater coming, and we're all still so grateful that you made this possible.

And, speaking of the MST3K Revival League, there's one more thing we should talk about before I get back to work.

The MST3K Revival League: Round 2!

Ever since the new episodes were released on Netflix last April, we've gotten a lot of wonderful emails telling us how excited you were to be part of getting the new season made, how much you enjoyed getting behind-the-scenes updates and special backer rewards, and asking if we would have another Kickstarter campaign to keep the MST3K Revival League alive for Season 12.

And you know, we spent a lot of time thinking about that, because the experience of making the show with (and for) all of you has been really special and wonderful – especially getting to meet so many of you on set during production and when we traveled for our three premiere screening events.

So, while we didn't think it would be right to do a brand new crowdfunding campaign – or to ask all of you to pay for another season, when we know it will be on Netflix – we did want to find a way to invite those of you who really enjoyed the whole Kickstarter experience to be more involved again.

That's why I'm really excited to announce that …

Starting on June 12th, we're launching our first MST3K Revival League "Pledge Drive," where we'll be offering a bunch of neat gifts for those of you who want to get involved again, including several that backers asked us to bring back for Season 12, including chances to...

  • BE A PRODUCER: Get credited on the new episodes, IMDB and the poster!
  • ADOPT CROW & SERVO: Own one of the robots used on screen! 
  • BE IN THE CREDITS: We're offering a limited number of "special thanks"! 
  • OWN SEASON 12: Collector's Edition Box Set and Digital Downloads! 
  • GET SEASON 12 GIFTS: Official Poster and Official Tote Bag

Also, later this summer, we'll be offering a few chances to own some of the official costumes, props, inventions and models featured on screen during Seasons 11 and 12. We can't do that now, because we need that stuff so we can, you know, shoot the new episodes. But once that's done, we want to find good homes for everything. 

So yeah, that's the plan: we're not doing a full Kickstarter, but I felt like we could keep some of the best parts of the crowdfunding experience by doing a public television-style "pledge drive." If you want to be part of the new season, I hope you'll think about making a pledge and joining us again!

Update on Remaining Kickstarter Rewards

There are still a few last details from Season 11 to take care of, including the coffee table book, and helping anyone who is still missing rewards. Ivan actually just posted a separate update about that, so please be sure to read that if you have questions.

He asked me to tell you that the rewards update has answers about what to do if you've still got any of these problems:

  • Missing Mystery Gifts 
  • Problems with the Season 11 Box Set 
  • The Coffee Table Book 
  • Pledging for Leftover Rewards
  • Any Other Missing Rewards

So yeah, be sure to read that update if you still need help, because I think Ivan's finally finishing up the last details, and trying to make sure everything from the Kickstarter is 100% finished in the next month or two -- because now we need him to focus on making sure you get your "Pledge Drive" rewards!

Oh, and if you've worn out your #BringBackMST3K Kickstarter t-shirts or hoodies, or just want to get a few more, Ivan tells me he needs to make one last batch of them. So, it sounds like you can re-order the original Kickstarter shirts and hoodies one last time, until June 15th, starting right now.

That's it for today, but there's actually still a lot more to share with you. After all, this isn't just any year: remember that in November, Mystery Science Theater 3000 turns THIRTY. So yeah, we've got a few other fun ideas we're still working on. I'll tell you more about those sometime soon.

Until then, thanks again for everything you've done to help bring MST3K back. We wouldn't be doing any of this without you.

Cheers & Thanks,

Joel

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    1. Stephanie Nordling on

      I can't seem to find a link for the new "pledge drive" anywhere. How can I get that?

    2. The Rev Dr Sherwood Forrester on

      I still am amazed that they were able to do 24 full two hour (less commercials) episodes a year in seasons 3 to 6; that's any other show doing 96 half hours.

      So I'm on board with six episode seasons if this is the best way for MST to continue indefinitely. I'm already hoping for Seasons 13, 14, 15 and onward!

    3. Kevin O'Neill on

      I, for one, look forward to the six episode season (especially after Joel’s update from today). The reason? I still haven’t watched the last four episodes of season 11. Kinda ashamed for saying that, but life seemed to get in the way A LOT this past year. Six episodes will be more manageable for me, at least!

    4. GK on

      My completely unsubstantiated guess will be that this season will basically be Kinga and Max forcing Jonah and the bots to watch a movie marathon, and they will get progressively more disheveled and rattled as they go...

    5. Matthew Berg on

      "Why would one watch to binge watch MST3K?"

      I'll get back to you on Thanksgiving.

      (Actually, a Turkey Day release of the new season would be a great nod to tradition.)

    6. Mary "Piggy" Peach on

      a handful of binge-watchable episodes?

      It stinks!

    7. Sean Boardman on

      I have to agree that 6 episodes is not enough and think that 10 or 12 would be fine.

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      GWAL on

      I hope one of the feedback you all are taking to heart is the speed of jokes. I've been re watching and yeah... delivery is often too fast.

      I don't mind only six new episodes, but I don't binge, so I'm a bit concerned what "made to binge" means.

      Otherwise keep up the good work!

    9. Anna Maltese on

      Thanks for everything you do, Joel. This is something to look forward to!

    10. bonuswavepilot
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      on

      Hmmm... Well, good to see a new season coming out, but I have to back the mood-in-the-room on 'binge watching' - this isn't that sort of show, and I am worried what changes such a concept entails. Shortening episodes, for example, would be a real shame.

    11. J. Nathan Couch on

      This is exciting but worrisome at the same time. Only 6 episodes, and you'll be selling off props from the previous seasons? I hope this isn't writing on the wall that you're not hopeful there will be a season 13.

      I really hope I'm just being a worry wart and we get at least another decade out of the show.

    12. Matt Combes on

      I mean, I'm down for any new MST3K, but I have to agree with those who've said this sounds a lot like spin. That Netflix basically wanted shorter, "more bingeable" seasons, for whatever reason, and that's all they'd fund. I detest that thought, but if it isn't true, I'd sure love to hear it officially from Joel. I can understand chopping the next season down to 12, or even 10 episodes, but 6? That just feels like a kick in the pants.

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      Robin Sheat on

      I second the question about those of us who still don't have it on Netflix. It was great being able to download from VHX, but I don't see much here that'd allow me to watch any new ones.

    14. Kevin Brubaker on

      I feel that Joel has done a great job keeping MST3K relevant and fresh so far, so I'm not concerned about a binge-watch friendly season 12. Actually, I'm looking forward to seeing what that entails. Six episodes doesn't especially bother me either, but I do hope that the series continues for years to come!

    15. James on

      I believe whatever you have planned will be brilliant and thoroughly enjoyable. I personally loved having 14 episodes to watch because it game me more to choose for when I am in the mood to re-watch them. More often than not I find my self turning on Star Crash and At The Earth's Core. Those are my favorites. :D Can't wait for more!! \\//,

    16. Sköttie P on

      RE: binge-watching (which is a terrible idea that no one asked for), but I'm sure that Netflix has viewing data to support this push which is otherwise a complete nonsequitor. I have to wonder if we fans inadvertently brought this on ourselves. When we were all rallying to encourage Netflix to pick up the show for another season, there were endless cries of "leave S11 streaming all the time, even while you go to work, every day!" so maybe we ended up "poisoning the well" with false data suggesting that we all want to binge this show, despite the unanimous feedback here that NONE of us actually do that.

      Hopefully, it'll turn out since Joel and the team are a creative bunch (and I'd love to see something that pleasantly surprises me) but I'm definitely a tad worried, about this format-shift even more than the truncated episode count.

    17. Ivan Askwith Collaborator on

      @Bruce: to the best of my knowledge, they are still feature-length -- but since we're not on television, the exact episode length may vary slightly from episode to episode. If I hear otherwise from Joel, though, I'm sure he'll let everyone know!

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      Kyle Watson on

      This sounds like a baaaad idea, Joel

    19. Bruce Pullen on

      Joel, Ivan,

      Are these 6 new episodes feature length or truncated? I really and truly would like an answer. Otherwise my compliments and best of luck.

      Bruce

    20. Armor10 on

      I’m worried they are trying to dumb down MST3k to make it more mainstream.
      As a very wise man once said, "I don't expect everyone to get this, but I know the right people will."
      That has always been part of its charm. The witty inside jokes that no one else understands.
      “Trumpy you can do stupid things.”

    21. Brad Dancer
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      on

      Sounds like a lot of corporate notes - too bad. Not everyone binge views nor is every show needed to be made that way. Alas. Do what you need to do a- it’s your show and I hope you are doing it in the way you want

    22. bygrinstow on

      Anyone else remember when the idea of being able to Kickstart(er) THREE new episodes was jaw-droppingly amazing? I do.

      Glad to hear there will be six more, hopefully this calendar year. The only thing I felt wasn't quite right about Season 11 was the static camera, especially in the Mads' segments. Their crazy camera angles were like how all the villain lairs in the Batman TV show were done -- to show they were eeeevillllll. .....EEEVIILLLLLL! [Extreme close up on my face, with my henchman framed just over my shoulder, head about the relative size of a golfball on screen.]

      I'll take 6 episodes a year, access to the back catalog, and NOT waiting over a decade for new MST3K, any day. I mean, I'd love 12 or 20 new episodes a year, but I'll take 6, please, and thank you.

    23. Charles Rengel on

      Great to hear from you again, Joel!

    24. Bret Wheadon on

      I don't understand the appeal of a six-episode season - MST3K isn't "Sherlock" - it doesn't require that level of "prestige" filming - it's not even "Stranger Things" with sets and full cast actors and stuff - it's a movie-riffing variety show with a mid-west sensibility. And for Netflix to say that "Six episodes are all that people will tolerate" is pure bunk! Fans will watch EVERYTHING MST3K puts out, and beg for more - and others will watch or not watch. I'm just worried that this is the new 'norm' when it really shouldn't be. I don't want MST3k to be a *part-time* show, where the actors and writers will have to split their time doing other things to fill time between seasons.

    25. michelle D on

      Ok, I'm not going to lie. My immediate reaction to only 6 episodes is "Uh oh! Netflix is making this the last season!" I'm worried. A 6 episode season, especially for a show with over 10 seasons, usually means "Here's your chance to end the show the way you want."I hope I'm wrong. However, even if I'm not, at least we'll have gotten 20 more episodes than we had originally and Netflix is giving the show the chance to not end on a cliffhanger.

    26. Johnny W on

      I’m a newb to MST3K. My first season was 11! I backed because I saw a clip of the show back in the late 90s and I never forgot it — it was one of the funniest, smartest things I’d ever seen. Unfortunately MST3K was never shown here in the U.K. so I had to wait...!

      The bottom line is that I’m a modern viewer watching a classic format without any nostalgia. Yes, 90 mins an episode was intimidating at first, but the biggest barrier to entry for me was the overall setup. (I think longtime fans take that for granted — they have gotten used to the campiness.)

      After watching all of 11, though, I finally really got it, and am now able to enjoy the earlier episodes (which, to this first time viewer, seem more casual and fun — I can see what people mean about the robotic riff style in 11 now, and the lack of an emotional connection between Jonah and the bots).

      Before the older episodes seemed impenetrable in their low budgetness, now I’ve been indoctrinated by 11, I can enjoy them fully.

      So I wonder about this new format. I hope they’re not chipping the episodes down to 60 mins, but we’ll see. I think the show takes a while to hook you, but once you’re hooked, you’re in. I worry about changing the format too much, but I trust Joel knows what he’s doing. (If anything, Joel, I think we need to care about Jonah and the bots more... drama to campiness, rather than straight to campiness for new audiences).

      Excited about the idea of a new Pledge Drive, too!

    27. Johnny W on

      I’m a newb to MST3K. My first season was 11! I backed because I saw a clip of the show back in the late 90s and I never forgot it — it was one of the funniest, smartest things I’d ever seen. Unfortunately MST3K was never shown here in the U.K. so I had to wait...!

      The bottom line is that I’m a modern viewer watching a classic format without any nostalgia. Yes, 90 mins an episode was intimidating at first, but the biggest barrier to entry for me was the overall setup. (I think longtime fans take that for granted — they have gotten used to the campiness.)

      After watching all of 11, though, I finally really got it, and am now able to enjoy the earlier episodes (which, to this first time viewer, seem more casual and fun — I can see what people mean about the robotic riff style in 11 now, and the lack of an emotional connection between Jonah and the bots).

      Before the older episodes seemed impenetrable in their low budgetness, now I’ve been indoctrinated by 11, I can enjoy them fully.

      So I wonder about this new format. I hope they’re not chipping the episodes down to 60 mins, but we’ll see. I think the show takes a while to hook you, but once you’re hooked, you’re in. I worry about changing the format too much, but I trust Joel knows what he’s doing. (If anything, Joel, I think we need to care about Jonah and the bots more... drama to campiness, rather than straight to campiness for new audiences).

      Excited about the idea of a new Pledge Drive, too!

    28. Johnny W on

      I’m a newb to MST3K. My first season was 11! I backed because I saw a clip of the show back in the late 90s and I never forgot it — it was one of the funniest, smartest things I’d ever seen. Unfortunately MST3K was never shown here in the U.K. so I had to wait...!

      The bottom line is that I’m a modern viewer watching a classic format without any nostalgia. Yes, 90 mins an episode was intimidating at first, but the biggest barrier to entry for me was the overall setup. (I think longtime fans take that for granted — they have gotten used to the campiness.)

      After watching all of 11, though, I finally really got it, and am now able to enjoy the earlier episodes (which, to this first time viewer, seem more casual and fun — I can see what people mean about the robotic riff style in 11 now, and the lack of an emotional connection between Jonah and the bots).

      Before the older episodes seemed impenetrable in their low budgetness, now I’ve been indoctrinated by 11, I can enjoy them fully.

      So I wonder about this new format. I hope they’re not chipping the episodes down to 60 mins, but we’ll see. I think the show takes a while to hook you, but once you’re hooked, you’re in. I worry about changing the format too much, but I trust Joel knows what he’s doing. (If anything, Joel, I think we need to care about Jonah and the bots more... drama to campiness, rather than straight to campiness for new audiences).

      Excited about the idea of a new Pledge Drive, too!

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      Van Nightingale on

      Sooooo . . . a fund raiser? Through Kickstarter or some other entity? I'm on board for that because I thought getting the boxed DVD set from the original Kickstarter so far ahead of general release was worth the financial support given, and that's not including all of the other neat items. Since you were kind of vague in your update about how that would be done, I'll take it on faith that when the time comes, you'll give us plenty of notice as to where and when.

      Like everyone here, I wish it could be more than six episodes, but I'm happy to get what we can. I'm not really sure I understand what "written to encourage binge watching" means, as if we're incapable of turning off the tube whenever we choose, but as long as it doesn't screw with the proven and much-loved formula . . .

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      David Scudder on

      Very sad to hear just six. Also agree about not being a binge watcher(I literally just watched the last episode of season 11 last week!). I was guardedly hopefully waiting for season eleven and it was great. So I'll be optimistic that format changes this time won't degrade the experience.

      As for this:"Complaining about the shorter season is misguided. Try being a show runner someday and see how hard it is. There is simply no way to avoid having to make decisions that are based on financial issues, not just creative ones. Every show ever made has had to deal with such issues. It’s easy to be an armchair commentator and imagine you could do better if you were in charge. Well, guess what, you’re not. We are getting 6 episodes this season, and that is that."

      Yet somehow every previous season was longer than six episodes. I understand the reasons are probably financial and unavoidable,but that's not what we are being told. Telling us not to be disappointed is misguided.

      In the end I'm really happy for whatever we get and hoping once things settle into a rhythm it will be mote than 6 every 18 months-I'm not getting any younger!

    31. Daryk on

      Hmmm... I don't need to binge watch an entire MST3K season in one or two sittings, but whatever gets us another season. 14 episodes was probably draining to make. Quality over Quantity this time around I guess. I'm just thankful to have MST3K back no matter the number of episodes.

    32. Jennifer Stine on

      Could use some new stuff. I've watched everything available quite a few times. That's still where the fish live. They still use Amazing Grace twice in a horror movie. Haha public domain, we don't have to pay anyone. Rowsdower saves us, and saves all the world. Either that or his tattoo just vanished. I blame Canada and Kyle's mom for not stopping Canada. My friend in Japan showed me a little of her favorite Godzilla movie. There's tons of them. They suck like leeches. Roku has some. They're more fun in Japanese subtitled.

    33. Anne Brown
      Superbacker
      on

      Can't wait for the next season. This decision to change up things sounds like The Mads trying to screw with Joel's head again by switching things up. Just going to go with the flow.😀

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      Jordan Carpenter on

      Oh dear.

      Yeah, most people seem to be matching my own reaction: Quality over quality, for sure. Do it the British way: really good, tight, short seasons. Especially a show like MST3K, where taking the time to word a joke correctly could be especially important.

      But man, it is reaaalllly easy to start being concerned that Netflix just didn't want to pay for very many episodes.

    35. Lollie on

      Can't help but side-eye the decision to make a "binge-friendly" season, there's a difference between "how people generally use Netflix" VS "how people approach specific series and films". But, I suppose we'll see how well this plan works in action. I just hope that the riffs are made to be in *reaction* to events in the films, rather than in *anticipation* of them.

    36. Michael Southwick on

      I dont see why a show like MST would ever benefit from being made more “binge-able”. The beauty of the show is you can pick any random episode you enjoyed and re-watch it whenever without having to worry anout continuity. I enjoyed last season and took my time through it. Not every series needs to he watched in one sitting. Pretty disappointing news but at least we will get 6 new eps. Hopefully after that they’ll revert to what has worked for MST for years and give us a full season.

    37. Armor10 on

      Yikes Joel. I hope MST3k isn’t in trouble? Typically Netflix will only order a half a season of a show that maybe didn’t do as well as they expected. I am hoping that you could also find a way to possibly release a full season like others have suggested. Six Episodes followed by another Six episodes halfway through the year. Or Six and possibly a Christmas Special during the holidays. I love the idea of “OWN SEASON 12: Collector's Edition Box Set and Digital Downloads!” But could we get an Experiment 13: Only the Digital Downloads? Thanks Joel super excited about Season 12. I also can’t wait to see what Turkeys you will be serving up this year in the Turkey Day Marathon .

    38. Matt Towler on

      Well, I'm not a binge watcher, so that part doesn't appeal to me (I spaced out Season 11 in weekly viewings, like the Old Days). Any new episodes are fine with me, be it 6 or 12!

    39. Paul Rabogliatti on

      It must have been a monumental task to create a season of 14 90 minute episodes. It does make sense to trim it down a bit to keep the quality up. You guys at MST3K have worked your butts off. Can't wait to see what the new season has in store. I'm very happy with everything you have been doing.

    40. Melissa
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      on

      This is fantastic! I'm looking forward to the new episodes. I'm also looking forward to us being able to get fun things for season 12. Thank you for letting us be involved.

      Here's to season 13, 14, 15, 16, 17...

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      Steph DeFerie on

      we need a revival league lapel pin!!!!!

    42. Philip Stephens on

      Complaining about the shorter season is misguided. Try being a show runner someday and see how hard it is. There is simply no way to avoid having to make decisions that are based on financial issues, not just creative ones. Every show ever made has had to deal with such issues. It’s easy to be an armchair commentator and imagine you could do better if you were in charge. Well, guess what, you’re not. We are getting 6 episodes this season, and that is that.

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      Comradeus on

      IF we're talking about a split season with 6 episodes now and 6 more episodes a few months later, I'm okay with that. Otherwise, just 6 episodes makes me sad. I agree with the sentiment that MST3K isn't really an ideal binge experience. MST3K is a good friend spending time with you every week (or as much as you want, really. lol)

    44. JJ Shotz on

      Though I'm grateful we get more MST3K, this update is very concerning to me for the future of the show. I guess I'm a worrier by nature, but it does seem like a lack of buy-in from Netflix. My whole family treats every episode of MST3K as a one night event. You can't rush through greatness. It's not a binge type of show. Though it will be interesting to see this vision and how it plays out, I'd much rather see 8 - 10 episodes in the format we've all loved for literally decades. I wonder if the team was forced to this to even be able to renew. 6 episodes feels like a punch in the gut to be honest. We'll wait a year and a half in between season 11 - 12 releases (or more) and get half the actual movie riff content. It's in Joel's hands and I know he's always do what's in the best interest of the show, but makes you wonder what happened behind the scenes in the months of silence waiting for the renewal notice (as other lesser shows were renewed by Netflix). We love MST3K in this house and there are more nights here when it's on our TV than not. I hope no matter the format, the future is bright for many more seasons. But, I'm worried we will get one more shortened seadon, and then color bars.

    45. Larry Lee Moniz on

      I have to say, I am a little disappointed that Season 12 of MST3K is only going to be 6 epsiodes. Does this mean we MSTies will have to wait another year for 6 more after that?

    46. Melody Fohr on

      Talking about Netflix funding: it's possible, given the cost over-run for Season 11 that required the Netflix licensing money to keep the production out of debt (Source http://comicbookcentral.libsyn.com/episode-183-mst3k-and-the-mads-are-back-special), and the financial problems that meant backers couldn't get refunds for the Mystery Gift screwup ("because we already spent most of your contribution making Season 11, we don’t have the money to offer you a full refund", per the email), maybe Netflix wasn't willing to finance more than six episodes to make sure their budget was met. Or, perhaps the money would have been enough to find 8 or 10 episodes if a budget *was* met. Also, in the interview sourced above, Joel said the next season would be paid for by Netflix, in full. So...what's the money for?

      I know that one of the objections that Joel had initially to crowdfunding, was that he didn't want to have to account for every decision to the backers. He had to quickly respond to questions about where the funding would go after the 2015 Kickstarter began, to allay a lot of questions and doubts. I get that we don't need a line-item budget. But when you ask people to give you money, you owe them an accounting of what you are going to spend it on and how. I don't have any regrets about contributing in 2015, but I'm not doing it again unless there's transparency -and honesty - that's been missing lately. You don't ask fans for money just to give them the experience of the Kickstarter excitement all over again, although I admit that's just about the neatest spin I've ever seen on fundraising. You ask people for money because you need money. I will be charitable and assume the details will be forthcoming on why.

      People will call me bitter and rush to assure the powers that be that "real fans" of course don't feel the way I do, that they are so happy to be included, and #InJoelWeTrust. Well, no, I don't trust, not anymore. All of this is my opinion, of course, based on what I've read and seen and heard, and I know almost everyone disagrees with me. There is soul and a spirit to MST3K that drew me in, where I found a family of like-minded friends, but that soul and spirit seems a distant afterthought lately. I will close on saying how sad it is to me, and how disappointing, that one of the most loyal and dedicated of fandoms, a fandom that Brought Back a TV show from the grave it was buried in for 15 years, a fandom of full of people who find meaning and sharing and joy and laughter in a show that saw a lot of them through some every rough times is being reduced to nothing more than a continual source of funding by those in control. #WeBroughtBackM$T3K?

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      Paul Crispell on

      Helping bring back MST3k made me happy. Only six experiments for season 12... I don't binge watch. I prepare for each episode, call friends over, etc. If six is all we get then that's it. I hope they're good ones.

    48. Wendell on

      Considering each episode of MST3K is an hour and a 1/2 compared to the 1/2 hour or hour chunks of other Netflix only shows, 6 episodes isn't too bad. Gotta keep spreading the word since it doesn't seem like Netflix is going to for the most part.

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      Arron Capone-Langan on

      I really hope one of the episodes will be the mystery movie from the Watch Out For Snakes! Tour. It was by far one of the funniest MST3K 'episodes' I've seen.