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Almost there! MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000 will return... and if we can get to $5.9MM, we'll get THIRTEEN new episodes of MST3K!
You did it: you brought back MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000! Thanks to you, MST3K shot FOURTEEN NEW EPISODES this year, including a new holiday special, and will return in 2017 on Netflix!
You did it: you brought back MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000! Thanks to you, MST3K shot FOURTEEN NEW EPISODES this year, including a new holiday special, and will return in 2017 on Netflix!
48,270 backers pledged $5,764,229 to help bring this project to life.

BIG Announcement Tonight at 8:30pm PST!!!

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Dear MST3K Revival League,

Joel here. Hello from San Diego. I’m here in San Diego with Jonah, Felicia, Baron and Hampton. We’ve been doing a lot of interviews today, and in a few hours, we’ll be doing our official Comic-Con Panel.

Anyway, I just got some big news about the future of Mystery Science Theater. And, you know, it’s really wonderful timing, because it means I can share it with all of you tonight during our panel.

Oh, and if you’re not here in San Diego, no problem. I want to make sure all of our backers are able to hear the news right away, so we’ll be sharing it on our Facebook and Twitter pages right when our panel begins.

So, check out our Facebook and Twitter pages tonight at 8:30pm PST for a big announcement about the new season of MST3K!

See you soon, sirs.

Cheers and Thanks, 

Joel

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    1. Jose De La Mora on August 1, 2016

      Hi Joel, I was wondering if (I probably missed it) there was an update on when the rewards will be shipped out. I noticed I was charged recently for all my extra add-one as well.

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      Christopher Simar on July 31, 2016

      I'm really excited, I think this is the best possible platform to get the show out there again. Can't wait! PS Are you going to share the "comicon footage" for backers? I heard there was some test footage I would love to see it.

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      + Revenant + on July 29, 2016

      I don't like streaming video and I don't have cable, so none of the likely release platforms was going to work for me. I'm just glad my donation lets me download all the episodes right from Joel.

    4. MadJo on July 29, 2016

      @Michale Gilstrap, That just sucks as a Dutch netflix subscriber. I guess it kind of figured it'd be English-only speaking territories. I'll guess I'll keep pirating them from youtube then.

    5. bonuswavepilot
      Superbacker
      on July 26, 2016

      @Michael - cheers!

    6. Michael Gilstrap on July 26, 2016

      @Joel @Ivan --- is the series going to be released on [a bare bones] bluray to retail outlets?

    7. Michael Gilstrap on July 26, 2016

      @bonuswavepilot

      "It’s also been revealed that the new season of MST3K will appear on Netflix in the U.S., Canada, U.K., Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand"

    8. bonuswavepilot
      Superbacker
      on July 26, 2016

      All things considered, this is good news! I do want to second MadJo's question though - is this US Netflix or worldwide? Because since they started making it difficult to use through a VPN, here in Australia we just get the option of shitty Australian Netflix where we don't get most of the good stuff because bloody Murdoch already bought it up...

    9. MadJo on July 25, 2016

      When they say Netflix. Do they mean worldwide or just in the US?

    10. Chelsea McQuaid on July 25, 2016

      Survey is in - my rewards are going to rock and I can't wait to add MST3K to my Netflix watchlist!!!

    11. Wesley Shadrix on July 25, 2016

      Lets also not forget that Shout Factory released the first season of Hemlock Grove, another Netflix exclusive series, to Blu-ray and DVD. I'm sure they have their reasons why they haven't licensed the other seasons.

    12. FanTom Servo on July 25, 2016

      Just an aside for everyone, Daredevil Season 1 is getting a DVD and Blu-Ray release in the UK on the 3rd October, so never say never about the future of MST releases. That's all I can say.

    13. Gigan72 on July 25, 2016

      @ Iron Curtain:
      Thanks for letting me know! I actually wasn't aware of that, so now i'm fully on board. Nice.

    14. Chris Means
      Superbacker
      on July 25, 2016

      +1 Netflix

    15. Jess Thetip on July 25, 2016

      Well slap the badger and call me Nancy, I'm excited! I was hoping for Netflix to be a release platform as I hate Hulu, and I have amazon, but prefer Netflix, and since I don't have cable any pay channel like HBO would've been unavailable to me. I really think Netflix is the best home for MST3K at this point and I'm sorry to hear that some of the other MSTies are discombobulated over the whole thing

    16. Iron Curtain (Chiptunes) on July 25, 2016

      @Arthur B. Agreed. It's a deal.

      Also, I established a profile on my sister's Netflix account and am glad to be back watching Netflix streaming again! Most of my complaints I have had about it before are moot: I can rewind and watch later (but only on the devices from which I left off). The last issue is not being able to watch where there is no internet (which is why I prefer downloads), but that seems less like an issue now than there was then. Still, it's an important issue seeing as the internet is not as ubiquitous as some would think.

      But as I promised, I will not speculate until I hear from Joel. Or Shout! Factory. You get the idea.

    17. Doug McAdams on July 25, 2016

      Thrilled MST found a home! I'll worry about everything else later, lol. Onwards and upwards...

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      Arthur B
      Superbacker
      on July 25, 2016

      @Iron Curtain: You're right, anyone talking about home media releases for S12+ is basically speculating at this point. That includes you and everyone else panicing that there won't be one because you're speculating just as much as anyone else is. The idea that Joel would have explicitly signed away the rights to do home media releases to Netflix (which he'd have had to do for the "Netflix fat cats say no" scenario to even fly in the first place) is pure speculation. The idea that S12+ won't get home media releases because Daredevil hasn't had a home media release, an assumption that requires Shout Factory to spontaneously decide to follow the Disney playbook on this one for no good reason (because as people have repeatedly said, it's not Netflix who have the home media rights to Daredevil, it's Disney) is also pure speculation. All the Chicken Little scenarios people have raised because of the Netflix deal - utter speculation!

      Why don't we all wait until we get updated on the full details before continuing this so we can have a discussion based on actual facts?

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      Mancomb Seepgood on July 25, 2016

      Uh, just to be clear, I'm talking about *future* seasons. The backers have got nothing to worry about the promise of the first season for them.

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      Mancomb Seepgood on July 25, 2016

      I'm sure Joel shares our desire to "own" the episodes unadulterated from the way the DRM-free tiers was presented. Rifftrax offers DRM-free downloads too.

      It's all up to the Netflix fat cats and whether they'll allow it. With a such a niche show? Perhaps. Maybe the show won't be so niche once it airs on their network, but maybe the timed delay will persuade them. Seems unlikely, but so did Netflix picking up this show in the first place.

    21. James Venes on July 25, 2016

      While some hate Amazon, I do have to say their video service with Amazon Prime is pretty nice in terms of being able to download and watch stuff offline. A couple years ago, I took Amtrak from California to New Orleans and downloaded all of Firefly to my tablet, so I was able to watch the entire series during that trip with no internet connection. I just had to have the tablet space for it.

      As far as Netflix goes, it looks like there are a couple workarounds to technically download and view something offline, but it may cost you a little extra to get what you need to do it and you'd have to be careful because Netflix sounds like they're pretty strict about it. From what it sounds like, it's possible in the sense that you're basically grabbing a "copy" of what you play (so it has to actually be played), then you can take that file with you for later viewing.

      I guess if you can't actually sit down and watch the show at home at a given time, or you just want to do that while commuting, it's an option. Since I'm not sure how sketchy it is or not I'm not linking to anything specific, butt you can always search something like "watch Netflix offline" and see what you get. If you try it, be careful.

    22. David Cruise on July 24, 2016

      This comment section brought to you by new and improved First World Problems™.

      On an entirely different note, glad to hear the show's got a home. Onwards and upwards.

    23. Iron Curtain (Chiptunes) on July 24, 2016

      @Phillip: Don't worry, it's okay. It's just that I'm trying to save up for a new gaming PC and Netflix wasn't even a consideration until MST3K was announced for it. If S12+ were available as downloadable files (preferably DRM-free to be consonant with MST3K's philosophy and pro-fan outlook) I wouldn't have a problem with the Netflix announcement. But the outlook is up in the air at the moment.

    24. Philip Stephens on July 24, 2016

      @Iron Curtain: Sure, I'm offering speculation. If that bothers you, I won't say anything more about it.

    25. Iron Curtain (Chiptunes) on July 24, 2016

      @Phillip: We don't know that. That will be up to Shout Factory and Joel to decide (and Netflix to concede).

      Besides, when I said "offering streaming without downloads is akin to offering music on Spotify without the option of downloading via iTunes, Amazon, or (best yet) bandcamp" I was specifically and clearly referring to music downloads from iTunes and Amazon, which are DRM-free. I wasn't referring to video downloads from those services, which aren't.

      All you're offering is rank speculation, not any actual facts.

    26. Philip Stephens on July 24, 2016

      @Iron Curtain: Downloads from iTunes or Amazon aren't DRM-free, as far as I'm aware. I would love DRM-free downloads for seasons 12 and onwards, but obviously that won't happen with Netflix, and I don't know of any major streaming services that would do it. Once MST3K goes from being a Kickstarter funded season 11 to a Netflix funded season 12, we can't expect DRM-free downloads. I'll be satisfied if they release future episodes on Blu-ray, myself. I'm not sure how we can expect anything else.

    27. Punxnbutter on July 24, 2016

      James gets it. Netflix has done a lot of great series these past few years so it's fantastic news that they're the partner for future seasons beyond what we're getting from Kickstarter.

      We're talking extra seasons here. More tapes to circulate!

    28. Iron Curtain (Chiptunes) on July 24, 2016

      @Wesley @Gigan72 That fact (that Shout Factory owns the show and not Netflix themselves) makes me optimistic that S12+ will have DRM-free digital downloads available should there be a season past 11…

    29. Wesley Shadrix on July 24, 2016

      @Gigan72 As long as Shout Factory owns the show, they'll have the home-media rights to release it to DVD. None of Netflix's original shows are released to DVD by Netflix themselves, it's up the the company who owns the shows. Sadly, many of them see home video pointless for something that people can stream.

    30. Iron Curtain (Chiptunes) on July 24, 2016

      Arthur: I wasn't talking about S11. We're going to get everything we ever wanted for that season. And DRM-free downloads for S12+ aren't "extra chocolate sprinkles", they're a sine qua non for people who don't have consistent internet access. I realize Netflix has to make their money somehow but to me offering streaming without downloads is akin to offering music on Spotify without the option of downloading via iTunes, Amazon, or (best yet) bandcamp. It's not a good way to treat your fans.

      Also, we didn't have the opportunity to watch MST3K on the bus or train but the iPod, iPhone and DVDs weren't invented yet. Times change. Technology moves forward.

      You say you get it but I'm not 100% sure if you do.

    31. Gigan72 on July 24, 2016

      My main concern about the show moving to Netflix is that on-disc releases may stop. Netflix very rarely will release their shows or movies, and I vastly prefer physically owning something. I know the current season is coming out on disc though (after all, it's included with my pledge) so i'm hopeful that any seasons after this one also will be.

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      Arthur B
      Superbacker
      on July 24, 2016

      Iron Curtain,

      Odds are, when MST3K was originally broadcast you didn't have the opportunity to watch it on the bus or train either.

      I get it, I really do, I commute in London and there's no network access in the subterranean portions of the Tube here. Generally I work around that by finding some other time to watch Netflix. It's still miles and miles more convenient than having to be tied to a TV aerial or cable box, even if it hasn't achieved 100% global saturation yet.

      We're literally getting everything we were promised plus more, and you're expressing all these deep concerns that we might not get extra chocolate sprinkles on top of that. Do you have any idea how that looks?

    33. J. Nathan Couch on July 24, 2016

      So glad that the show's on Netflix! Rifftrax, an independent online platform, has thrived for 10 years. It's the best way to go. Also, one less reason for my fellow geeks to waste money on antiquated cable TV.

    34. Iron Curtain (Chiptunes) on July 24, 2016

      Okay, then. I'm glad that's settled!

    35. James Venes on July 24, 2016

      Iron Curtain:

      Will do! Will try to remember if we talk further beyond this. I just took "Chiptunes" and shortened it for convenience, which is kind of pointless when I write the rest of that.

      As for S12 and beyond, which hopefully this partnership will bring about, having a way to watch stuff offline would absolutely be nice. No argument there.

    36. Iron Curtain (Chiptunes) on July 24, 2016

      @James Venes: First of all, please call me Iron Curtain. I insist. The "Chiptunes" is just to differentiate me from the darkwave Iron Curtain band that had hits in the 80's. Chiptunes is the type of music I make, not my name.

      Second of all, at the very least, downloads for Season 12 and beyond should at the very least be an option. If it means getting them after they are on Netflix, so be it. Better late than never.

    37. James Venes on July 24, 2016

      Chip:

      This is going to sound very blunt, but it's not about you and whether or not you can download something ahead of time to watch in a spot where you can't get a connection. At least, it isn't beyond the scope of this project. Not yet, anyway.

      The "selfish" bit was more in response to someone in the main comment area who said if he'd known he could have just watched the show on Netflix he probably wouldn't have backed. THAT completely missed the point. But, I still think it's selfish for anyone to be acting like the Netflix thing is bad news for them as backers. I've already seen a handful of people sounding as if only we should have the right to see the episodes because we backed the project. Maybe that's not how they meant it but that's how it came off, and it's very short-sighted.

      As far as what you're entitled to, assuming you pledged enough you're already getting DRM-free versions you'll be able to play anywhere you want. The Netflix partnership doesn't change that because it has nothing to do with the stuff we paid for. Never was there anything promised about stuff beyond that, if the show ends up getting picked up for more episodes beyond what we helped make happen.

      I'll cross my fingers that you can get DRM-free versions of later stuff, but I wouldn't count on it.

    38. Iron Curtain (Chiptunes) on July 24, 2016

      @James Venes: You're missing the point. Downloads are far more convenient for me. I can't use Netflix on a train, or on a plane. Or anywhere without internet access. Or if I go over my cap. I realize that the point of this kickstarter was to find MST3K a new home. And I'm glad Netflix is that home, for that matter. It's just that it's extremely insulting to say that someone like me is being "extremely selfish" for preferring convenience wherein I get to own copies instead of just renting them.

    39. James Venes on July 24, 2016

      Worth looking at all (well, pretty much all) of the reactions. I wonder how many of them had no idea about the Kickstarter project:

      https://twitter.com/netflix/status/757055576903778304

    40. James Venes on July 24, 2016

      I wrote this over in the main comment area, but it seems like it's necessary here as well. To add a little to it, I doubt backers are going to get any DRM-free stuff beyond what we've been promised. There was never anything in here about getting that kind of access to potentially future seasons. It was all about getting this one made. On to the copy/paste.

      I'm pretty sure the goal here was not just to bring MST3K back for only the people who funded it on Kickstarter, but to bring it back in a way anyone could have the chance to see new episodes. The Netflix deal, while it is subscription-based, accomplishes that, and in fact it probably does so in a way that's potentially less costly for viewers who are trying to cut the cord and leave traditional cable/satellite service. Netflix will also provide the ability to watch the shows without commercial interruption, right?

      I don't get the attitude of some people here who are acting like this is a slap in the face or you're getting screwed out of something. Did you not even read the project's two main goals and the hopeful vision for the future? You're acting tremendously selfish right now, and if you're taking the attitude that you could have just not backed the project and waited to watch the shows on Netflix, you completely missed the whole point of showing that MST3K was still popular and worth doing. If this project didn't receive the support it did, Netflix probably never even happens.

      We all proved that there was still a market for the show. We did that. We sent that message, loud and clear. Netflix saw that and partnered up to make sure it will be available to its subscribers. This is exactly what the ultimate goal was, and it might even lead to even more MST3K beyond what we all helped fund.

      Isn't that what this is all about?

    41. Philip Stephens on July 24, 2016

      @JZP: Do you have insider information that we don't about Netflix, or is this just your opinion? If it's the latter, then I'm going to have to display some skepticism about your negativity.

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      Mancomb Seepgood on July 24, 2016

      People forget how small this revival project was when it started. Joel found skepticism at every executive conference table. Now they've been picked up Netflix?! That's huge!!

      Hopefully with future seasons, they can negotiate a deal where the episodes will be available as DRM-free downloads a while after they're released on Netflix. Sort of like the delay for House of Cards and iTunes.

      As long as future seasons can be purchased DRM-free, I'm happy. But let's see how this first season goes.

    43. SJ Dunstan on July 24, 2016

      @Michael Magliocca: "I am disappointed it ended up on a paygate service and not on TV. I will not get Netflix again so I am glad I backed with DRM free downloads."

      Respectfully, how is TV not also a paygate service? I mean, absent the select few major networks (which would never pick up this series, or would completely destroy it with rules and regulations), TV isn't free, either.

    44. SJ Dunstan on July 24, 2016

      I am extremely disappointed IF AND ONLY IF the season will be released in one big giant chunk, as is the typical Netflix Original practice. An INTEGRAL part of what brought the MSTie community together and made this Kickstarter campaign a success was watching episodes together, AT THE SAME TIME, and live-tweeting our favorite riffs, interacting with each other as we watched. PLEASE tell me each episode will have a separately scheduled release date and time, so we can all watch the broadcast together. :/

    45. Michael Magliocca
      Superbacker
      on July 24, 2016

      I am disappointed it ended up on a paygate service and not on TV. I will not get Netflix again so I am glad I backed with DRM free downloads.

    46. Iron Curtain (Chiptunes) on July 24, 2016

      @Michael Kelley:

      I'm speaking for myself and not for others: I'm hoping Season 12 and beyond will be available in DRM-free downloads like the Kickstarter-funded Season 11. I say this because I live in NYC and I use the subways all. the. time. The subways don't have internet or cell service and I'm on the go all the time so DRM-free downloads would be the optimal choice for me. Netflix requires (good) internet access and I won't always have that around. I am not objecting to Netflix. If anything, it excites me! I'm just wishing that DRM-free downloads will be an option for seasons past the kickstarted Season 11, if they aren't an option already.

    47. Brad Gravett on July 24, 2016

      I'm super satisfied by the Netflix announcement as well. I'm not going to criticize personal preferences. But every other possibility would also have been a compromise of some sort; Netflix is probably best objective compromise (in terms of ease-of-access, visibility, headline-worthiness, creator control, etc) that MST3K could get.

      I somehow feel that being on Netflix makes a second (and beyond!) season more likely than anywhere else.

      I mean, my other favorite-show-of-all-time is Star Trek, and CBS is putting the new series on their own CBS-only service. With commercials! And no DRM-free downloads! Think about being stuck with that!

    48. Patrick McLARGEHUGE on July 24, 2016

      Netflix is by far the best platform going forward,it appeals to younger people and that is the most important thing.Joel will find the balance between the legacy fans and the new audience.That is the best part of the Kickstarter ,that he will have control of the show.I just recently subscribed to Netflix thinking I would give it a try."Stranger Things" was a great surprise ,there is quite a bit of stuff that seems poorly done but MST3K has a built in audience and more seasons should be an easy goal.And that was Joel's original goal ,not just the first 14 episodes.

    49. Dick Ward on July 24, 2016

      Guys, the Netflix announcement is amazing.I cannot wait to see the new episodes, and I love that i won't have to sign up for some obscure service to do it, or pay for individual episodes or some weirdness like that. And since I don't have a TV and don't subscribe to cable, that would have been a whole mess for me ;p

      Plus, man, Netflix will be such great exposure! They do a great job of promoting their original programming, which I assume is how the show will be branded.

      This announcement warms my heart and gets me even more excited for the return! :D

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      Michael Kelley on July 24, 2016

      Yeah, I'm not sure why all the hate for Netflix (well, it's a minority here, but still...) This is FANTASTIC news, a great placement for them in terms of recognition, availability, and positioning. And, dare I say it?, even in availability for seasons beyond just this one. No other platform has shown such a consistent committment to "fan service" type shows even if viewership isn't the greatest.

      I can't even imagine a better place -- a regular network would have been a disaster and even any other cable channel (we've all been there, done that, and how did that work out?). Netflix wants to evolve into a television series production company, which is why their movie offerings are getting slimmer and slimmer. I have zero problems with that -- there are already plenty of sources to see movies. And no one who backed the show to get it digitally should feel ripped off -- you will get what you paid for (I have a Netflix subscription and think this is perfect).

      Finally, I absolutely cannot understand anyone not excited about hearing some former cast members are reprising their roles. If it had been announced that Mary, Bill and Kevin had been joining the show in the first place we'd have been jumping for joy. As it was many folks expressed their wish we would at least see cameos (which is surely what we will be seeing). This won't change Joel's vision in the slightest (although I wish Mike would drop by -- hoping to see him and Joel together in their "roles" would be the only thing better than the RT reunion show).

      Now I'm even more jazzed about all this -- while I normally have lots of patience, this is SO exciting!