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I agree 100% with Martin! By not communicating what he has stated puts us all in a vulnerable place. Your backers want to help, but are getting very restless with the minimal amount of information being provided. There are many others that want to help get past these hurdles you face, but without communication, people will/are turning to skepticism and making assumptions based on the unclear future. Let us know the real deal so we’re not all out of options after it’s too late. Again, people want to help, let us!
Thin line between saving your invested money and throwing good money after bad.
@Arwed Good idea to pay some extra to speed up the whole process! Until now I believe all the setbacks for Mr Beam costs a lot of money, time and effort! There are about 600 backers! Let say every backer spend an extra €20-30, that makes €12000-18000! Personally I’m willing to pay an extra of €50 if this would speed up the process.
lets put it to an end: I would be willing to pay an extra to finish this before everything is lost.
How much would it cost to get the heatsink faster from another source to speed up the process within reasonable time?
And if you are selling the product would it be possible to offer 'rewards' on a commission basis?
#801 - Laser + Filter.
What seemed like a good investment at the time, is probably making less and less sense as time passes. Technology evolves, and I'm afraid Mr. Beam II will be outdated by the time I get it. Which will be summer/winter 2018?
I backed because you weren't new on KS and proved yourself with the first campaign, I'm starting to regret this.
Is this the next Glowforge?
Guys, I think it's time for a *serious* update. Not one on current or expected issues, but about the state of the project:
- Which of the device-specific parts do you have in stock? (Housing, Lid, PCBs, Laser diodes, heat sinks...)
- Which share of the total number of parts required to manufacture the MrBeams for all backers?
- What is the state of delivery (if not at 100% yet)/quality of those products?
I'd expect a table in the form [Product | Percentage Delivered | Quality/Remark] contianing info on all those products.
Then we would also be aware where open ends are and issues may arise. Currently the communication looks like salami-tactics with issues "suddenly" popping up that are hard to believe haven't been known earlier.
Secondly I'd expect some information on your financials - is it at all realistic that you survive the delays financially? You'r 1,5 years behind schedule and during that time not only costs for storage/personnel accumulate, but there is also no income from any additional sales. In this context (although I hope it won't be relevant) I'd like to point out that you are under an obligation to file for insolvency at a rather early stage in Germany - it is usually too late when the first bill arrives that you factually cannot pay anymore. As filing too late is also subject to criminal punishmet, please get yourself advice early enough.
To be clear: I am more than willing to help get you through this critical phase. If further (also financial) support is needed, you have to communicate that. Then we can see what has to be done and what can be done.
Only dropping updates with some bad some good news every three weeks will only f*** your backers off and will make it only harder to find a solution.
#733 - noch schlimmer - und auch noch das Vollpaket - Laser und Filter - was für eine Fehlentscheidung - zwischenzeitlich glaub ich nicht mal an eine Lieferung bis Weihnachten 2018 -
#719 naja danke für die Ehrlichkeit.
Ich habe damals überlegt; Bitcoin oder Laser-cutter? Was für eine Fehlentscheidung...
Ohje, ich bin Backer #704. Ich kann also ca. bis Juni warten. *sad*
Soooooo, you will deliver by backers numbers? Cause I'm backer 14 and can't wait any moreX)
Hey Andy @Mr.Beam,
"Social Relation" includes also to answer the questions from your backers and not to ignore them. Very poor show: the last comment alomost 6 weeks ago and the last update (with no information inside) 3 weeks ago.
But this is an all over theme in the hole start-up scene. Place great ideas with an unrealistic timetable and when 80% of the target is reaced they got stuck. But to get this reward from a team that is not new on kickstarter is very disapointing
I guess you are very busy, but it would be great an update to feel that is nearer the moment when is going to be ready. The last updates were really appreciated, and make the waiting time easier to bear. Also any estimation would be fantastic...
Thanks indeed folks!!
Falsches Fenster, sorry.
Ich würde die Zwerge auch gerne am Samstag auf der Spielwiesn abholen. Muss ich da noch etwas beachten, außer dass ich mich als Unterstützer "ausweisen" können sollte?
so what's up? In the meantime I hope you have figured out details on the missing components. I would appreciate an update. The last report actually increased the pressure. With the goal so close any information that helps us, your backers, in planning (I think most people pledged on purpose and not to possess a stylish gadget sometime) would make things easier for all. As before: an estimate is far better than... nothing.
Thanks for the latest update, those are great news, keep up the good work.
Do you have a timeline for the delivery?
What is the the order of shipping, is by backer number or are the early bird going to be shipped first?
Hey guys, sorry, I lost track among the comments and updates as well.
What's the estimated timeline for delivery? What stage are the early bird machines in?
Or do you go by backer number?
Yes, communication is a problem. I want to see more videos how Mr Beam II is performing in different engraving and cutting jobs. I want to see how the software works, camera, filter system and so on!! Now it looks like we will get our Mr Beam right at our doorstep without this information. Not good! I know you guys are working hard but get some more information and status about Mr Beam is really necessary for your backers.
Die Kommunikation ist echt zäh.
Klappt es noch in 2017?
Update please! :-)
Last one was 20 days ago.. when can we expect a delivery? :-)
@MrBeam Team: Any approximate date of delivery?
Kann man eigentlich mit Mr. Beam II auch Stempel damit herstellen? Also "Lasergummi" abtragen?
Is it possible to create stamps from "cutting" rubber mats?
Ich würde es auch gerne abholen. Ansonsten muss ich zum Paketshop, und das ist weiter. ;-)
Abholen wäre für mich auch kein Thema - je nachdem ob es den Prozess für euch auch vereinfacht :-)
Not free but nice examples!
Je nachdem wann Beamy fertig assembliert und Ready to go ist, würde ich diesen auch direkt abholen.
Wie gesagt - hängt bisschen vom Zeitfenster ab :D
Nachdem ihr ja jetzt fleißig am Zusammenbauen seid, werd ich langsam hibbelig! Nicht vergessen, ich will meinen Mr. Beam bei euch in Muc abholen kommen und warte eigentlich nur drauf, dass ihr Bescheid gebt, damit ich ins Auto hüpfen kann. ;)
@Papje: Thank you! There are some good links in your list! (I already had some of them in my personal link-list :-))
Anyone who knows a good link for 'hardware' (wood, acryl and so on) ? I could'nt find one who sells in Germany pure wood (cherry, maple, walnut, ... ) 1 or 2mm thickness for a good price.
@Mr. Beam: Maybe it's time to start the new forum/wiki for links and other stuff?
Found this list on Facebook!
Much more comfortable format:
https://www.stlfinder.com/ (search for Free laser cut files)
@Mark Pedersen: We did not try that yet, as we already know, that carbon fiber itself is hard to cut.
But there's a great alternative: Basalt fibers or woven basalt fiber mats (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basalt_fiber). You can use them as a direct replacement for carbon fibers. One local river surfer guy here uses our laser cutter to cut out enforcements for his hand molded surfing fins. Basalt fibers are 100% mineral and therefore less dangerous to work with than carbon fibers.
@Mabux compare the published pictures with fsl muse ;)
It's a nice, but quite different than Mr Beam II.
With the CO2 tube laser it has all the advantages and disadvantages of this technology. We believe that semiconductor lasers are the best technology for the desktop, especially in terms of durability, power consumption, maintainance and safety.
Wondering how https://www.dremel.com/en_US/digilab-laser-cutter will compare to MrBeam, what do you think (there's not much information yet, but in general) ?
@ Mr Beam team - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_fiber_reinforced_polymer
@Papje thanks for sharing. We did that by hand for our video and know the effort if you do it properly.
Hey Klaus und Zimmermann ;)
just published an update. Hope you like it.
@Mark: CFRP = carbon fiber reinforced p...? Is this assumption right and what is the last one?
Hey Teja und Co.,
gibts heute wieder ein paar News rund um das Baby?
This has prob been answered, but coulndt find it(or missed it). But here goes:
Will we be able to lasercut CFRP with mr.beam? :)
Thanks Papje, another great link, do you know a source for old French postcards? they would make a great puzzle set.
Another tip: Puzzle Generator
@Raphael ... und ich hab jetzt was über Kerntechnik gelernt. :)
@ Klaus: Das war ein Spaß.....
@Raphael: Keine Ahnung aus welchem Bereich du kommst, aber der Begriff ist für mich Alltag und in der IT geläufig.
Und ich denke Teja & Co. wissen was gemeint ist - auch ohne Google und Wikipedia bemühen zu müssen. �
Unter dem Begriff Assemblierung versteht man in der Kerntechnik den letzten Teilschritt bei der Herstellung von Brennelementen für Kernreaktoren. Vereinfacht ausgedrückt bedeutet die Assemblierung den Zusammenbau von einzelnen Kernbrennstäben zu einem Brennelement. ...
@MisterBeam Feels like the right time for an official udpate or...? =)
What is the updated "estimated time for delivery"?
Cool. Danke für die Details ;)
@Klaus ich hab eben einen neuen Liefertermin für die verspäteten Teile bekommen: 22.9. Die Assemblierung beginnt dann wenn die Qualität der Teile passt am 25.9.
Woran wir in der Zwischenzeit arbeiten: Software, Verpackung, Betriebsanleitung, Koordinierung von den Zulieferern, Business Development, Qualitätskontrolle, ...
Once more in English:
we got a new arrival date for the delayed parts: September 22nd. If the quality of the parts is fine, we will start assembly of the devices at September 25th.
In the meantime we're busy with software, packaging, user manual, supplier management, business development, quality assurance, ...
@Mr. Beam Lasers
Was bedeutet die Verspätung für die Auslieferung des Gerätes? Wann sind alle Teile beisammen und können spätestens Assembliert werden?
Danke und Gruß
P.S.: An was arbeitet Ihr, wenn Ihr auf Teile warten müsst? Verbesserungen der Software? Etc.? Denke das würde die Backer hier auch interessieren.
Delay announcement: Two suppliers just notified us that their factories had to stop production because of the typhoons Hato and Pakhar. They had to shut down the electricity for safety reasons. According to their estimations the production continues in the first week of September.