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We've rebuilt Android™ to be a primary operating system for your PC, 2-in-1 or PC Tablet. Over 100 new features built-in already.
We started as the first commercial effort to bring Android to the PC. We're still at it, now on GitHub rebuilding - combining the best of the open-source world, with cutting-edge commercial drivers, licensed from Intel. (Console.com.co)
We started as the first commercial effort to bring Android to the PC. We're still at it, now on GitHub rebuilding - combining the best of the open-source world, with cutting-edge commercial drivers, licensed from Intel. (Console.com.co)
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    1. Trần Chí Thanh on March 2, 2016

      chó đẻ, refund now!!!!

    2. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on March 2, 2016

      @Sravan - There's no question that Jide has been "supporting" Android-x86 for awhile now, and we intend to pursue the appearances of impropriety there more aggressively. We'll say this: We didn't pay Android-x86's shakedown demands. We can't say the same about other projects with any level of certainty. We may have paid a social media cost for that, but we don't regret it.

      As to Console OS today, there's no question starting from scratch delayed us. We're now an open-source project. We're focused on making pure Android great on the PC. We aren't deterred by that, at all.

      @WANG - We know, but not all BayTrail-T graphics integrations are alike. There are considerable Video BIOS differences and other errata. This is why Console OS works great on the T100 today, but has issues on the Dell Venue 8 Pro, ones we and Intel are still working to resolve.

    3. Sravan Reddy on March 2, 2016

      Remix Os from jide is everything that Console Os should have been. Easy installation , works with UEFI and Non Uefi devices. Touchscreen , wifi, audio , video , android games work without crashes or hitch. Proudly displays the android x-86 logo which it uses as a base. Best implementation of android for PC so far

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      WANG Jing on March 2, 2016

      Miix 2 8 use atom z3740, bay trail same as Asus T100

    5. Gerald Kelel on March 2, 2016

      Please respond to the following allegations with more then calling them lies:

      1. No one else except Christopher Price works for MMV/Console Inc. Since day one of this project, he has refused to answer the simple question of the number of employees in his company. However, he claimed earlier in the Kickstarter comments section to have "engineers", which is plural meaning at least two other employees besides himself. However, he now refrains from referring to his departments at all by quantifiable nouns, instead resorting to using terms such as "engineering" to describe areas of his company. When asked on multiple occasions for the number of employees in his company, he pretended to have been asked for names, not numbers.

      Exhibit A: Search the comments section (current as of 2-4-2016, 12:01 AM MST) with the terms "engineer", "employ" and "number" for the numerous noted examples: Viewable here:
      https://www.docdroid.net/aemcGEK/console...t.pdf.html

      2. He falsely claimed to have already delivered Console OS Pro. He has said in the Kickstarter comments section that he already delivered "Console OS Pro" to backers. Currently, Console OS still lacks Pro features. The Pro version, by definition, would have Pro features.

      Exhibit A: "We aren't rewriting history, we did deliver Console OS Pro exclusively to backers in the timeframe stated." Viewable here:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mmv...t-11388942

      3. He still has not shipped any of the physical rewards to backers.

      Exhibit A: As indicated by Price's following post, as of February 1st, 2016, physical rewards still have not been shipped to backers. Viewable here:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mmv...t-12364681

      4. He tested thousands of paid Play Store apps without prior backer consent, either using thousands of dollars of Kickstarter funds to purchase them or engaging in pirating to obtain them. He claimed online that he had tested thousands of paid Play Store apps on Console OS. This would mean he had either spent thousands of dollars to purchase them or he had obtained them illegitimately by pirating them.

      Exhibit A: "We've successfully imported and tested thousands of paid play store apps, right in our own labs."
      Price never responded back explaining how he acquired those apps. Viewable here:
      http://i.imgur.com/cgr9nng.jpg

      5. He falsely claimed to have already built a prototype with over 100 features already built-in before the project campaign. He has been unwilling and unable to produce the original prototype that he already "built" prior to the project. Likewise, he has been unwilling and unable to provide verifiable visual evidence, either through prerecorded video or live screencast, which showed said prototype had "over new 100 features already built-in."

      Exhibit A: "We've rebuilt Android™ to be a primary operating system for your PC, 2-in-1 or PC Tablet. Over 100 new features built-in already." Viewable here:
      https://web.archive.org/web/20140614024855/https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mmv/console-os-dual-boot-android-remastered-for-the-pc

      6. He fraudulently obtained backer funds by purposely withholding information about Android-IA for Core's suspension until the refund window had past. He withheld the information that Android-IA for Core's development had been suspended, of which he was informed three days after the campaign had ended. He did not let backers know Android-IA for Core was crucial for Console OS's on-going development. He even made it appear in campaign materials that it was a direct competitor, not the basis for Console OS's code. Somehow, the rest of the industry understood Android-IA for Core's suspension to be indefinite but not Price. He did not inform backers of its suspension until backer funds could no longer be refunded, almost six months later. Per Kickstarter policy, all project creators can fully refund their backers through Amazon Payments up to 60 days after a campaign has ended.

      Exhibit A: "@Dave - We're still determined to make that happen, despite pullback from partners. Had Intel called us up during our Kickstarter campaign and said 'hey, heads up, yes we can confirm we're suspending Android development for Core processors' - then we would have posted that.
      We didn't get confirmation of that until three days (72 hours) after our Kickstarter campaign ended... it was a punch in the gut, frankly we're even surprised we got this far in the wake of that."
      Viewable here:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mmv...t-11535212

    6. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on March 2, 2016

      Correction: Miix 2 8. The original Miix uses Clover Trail which we cannot support unfortunately, due to its PowerVR GPU.

    7. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on March 2, 2016

      @Wang - The teammate that has our Miix 8 just let us know that he's traveling this week abroad and will test next week.

    8. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on March 2, 2016

      @Wang - We will check with the teammate that has one and update shortly.

      If you can copy Console OS Express to a flash drive, you can check yourself - we got the install down to copying a few files to a flash drive, disabling secure boot, and booting from the flash drive.

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      WANG Jing on March 2, 2016

      Is MiiX2 8 supported now?

    10. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on March 1, 2016

      @Jason - We know people who read the comment wall daily might not see it as new news, but much as Windows 10 has a fast and slow ring, we've been using our comment wall similarly.

      v0.4.96 has tested well with you constantly-reloading, comment followers, we said in our update earlier today that we would roll out support and release notes for that release to everyone late today.

      We also promised we would unveil details for Console Developer Rewards - which is not a talent project focused on us, but on giving back to our upstream projects - by the end of February... which is what we did late yesterday.

      As we said a few updates ago, we have merged Console OS Standard and Pro into one release for now. This was necessary to keep the project alive, and permitted under the mid-2014 Kickstarter TOS.

      We will provide more details on what to expect on the roadmap, in our next update, due out tonight.

      In short, we're juggling a lot right now.

    11. \_/ Refunded 04.06.16. Hush $$? \=/ on March 1, 2016

      I don't see anything new under downloads on your magi page.
      Console OS Express v0.4.96 (64-bit)

      Also, I bought Console OS PRO. The update you sent out today looks like an advertisement for software development talent.

      What's up with that?

    12. Gerald Kelel on March 1, 2016

      But you have not cleared up any of the allegations levied against you, some of which deal directly with regard to the said Intel technology. Shall I continue to repost those here (Summary of Allegations Against Christopher Price) so that you address them point by point? I'm assuming you know exactly what I'm talking about.

    13. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on March 1, 2016

      @Gearld - We're here to clear up those misconceptions. We licensed technology from Intel, that unfortunately mid-way through our development... they stopped building. We then forked an open-source project to replace those components, and are working with Intel to bring the last-mile drivers needed to support Dell Venue 8 Pro properly back.

      This all takes time and cost money, so we can't refund you. You can read our updates that go much more in-depth on this here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mmv/console-os-dual-boot-android-remastered-for-the-pc/posts/1453171

      And also here for specifics on the DV8P issue: http://wiki.console.com.co/w/Source_Code#Intel_Graphics_Driver_Issue

      @xconwayx - Yes! https://account.console.com.co/ - But more details will be released in our next update.

      @Matt - See links above where we addressed this controversey in-depth:

      @graphidz - We aren't refunding backers. We worked with Kickstarter to drop a little over a dozen backers who were draining both companies resources, and accounted for over half the nearly 4,000 comments on our wall. As a courtesy, we made a one-time exception and refunded those people, who we feel were trolling us - at the detriment of other backers.

    14. Gerald Kelel on March 1, 2016

      I pledged to this project in order to get Android apps on my Dell Venue 8 Pro which was specifically targeted as one the first device to get Console OS. That was two years ago and there has been nothing, but excuses. Now there is the damning accusations of simply copying other's code. I would like a refund based on this blatant misrepresentation.

    15. xconwayx on March 1, 2016

      Question on the email that was just sent out. I am very excited to see an update already coming. Reading "If you don't want to wait, just log in to Console Accounts as a backer - and download away!" does this mean the new update is already available to us?

    16. TriOptimum on March 1, 2016

      Also, don't accuse me of spamming, I've never heard of the issue before and only I'm asking you to explain what's happening between you and the android x86 project you linked to (if you hadn't linked to it, I never would have seen his statement). If you reply rudely or try to censor me you will look guilty (you tell people below kickstarter will remove their posts because you don't like them and consider them trolling, but they never did, because they don't violate ToS).

    17. TriOptimum on March 1, 2016

      One of the links you posted in your recent update, to Android x86, accuses you of being a scam and stealing code from Android x86 on their front page (from the author of that project): http://www.android-x86.org/

      https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/android-x86/qkWG2TwVBqs/tW1Rm9u9DAAJ

      Hi all,
      [CC this to Android-IA list since the guy continues
      lying on Android-IA list]

      Honestly speaking, I really have no time to check what
      Christopher Price and his crappy Console OS did recently.
      But I'm getting more and more private requests to ask me
      to stop him from stealing the Android-x86 effort.
      So as the project leader of the Android-x86 project,
      I think I need to do something.

      As a background for new comers who haven't heard
      the story of Console OS, here is a brief:

      Christopher Price started a project called Console OS
      at Kickstart in the middle 2014. He promised
      "We've rebuilt Android™ to be a primary operating system
      for your PC, 2-in-1 or PC Tablet. Over 100 new features
      built-in already..."

      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mmv/console-os-dual-boot-android-remastered-for-the-pc

      Christopher also announced his Kickstart campaign
      on the android-x86 list to seek for support.
      He claimed Console OS will be shipped at the end of 2014.
      Finally he succeeded to collect $78,497 for the project.

      However, without any real demo and detailed explanation
      how he could achieve his goal, the android-x86 community
      quickly exposed this is just a scam and banned this guy forever.

      In Dec 2014 Christopher released a first test build of Kitkat
      called DR1 to his backers only. However, according to
      the comments of some backers, this is just a copy of
      android-ia image without any promised features.
      Most devices he promised to support cannot install
      or even boot the DR1.

      While most of his backers are waiting for an update of Kitkat DR2,
      Christopher claimed he was moving the development
      of Console OS to Android 5.x (Lollipop) since most backers
      voted to do so. However,
      he is unable to deliver any Lollipop build one year later.
      He made many excuses like the most devices have
      32-bit UEFI (which is never an issue of android-x86),
      Intel didn't support Core processors
      (which are supported by android-x86) anymore, and
      the Lollipop Logjam (I really have no idea what it is).

      Two months ago after the android-x86 5.1-rc1 released,
      Christopher claimed he will "open source" the code of
      Console OS soon to speed up the development.
      Several days ago I was informed the
      "Console OS source code" finally appears in github:

      https://github.com/iConsole

      Guess what it is?
      It's just a copy and forked of Android-x86 5.1-rc1
      by renaming Android-x86 to ConsoleOS:

      Android-x86 -> ConsoleOS
      https://github.com/iConsole/Console-OS_bootable_newinstaller/commit/293ba5c4c0d10b21a08c8aeaa516aa57713706d2

      Update generic makefiles for ConsoleOS needs
      https://github.com/iConsole/Console-OS_device_generic_common/commit/de1ec1f38d1b77b5134c28ffa6e5eca877365c90

      The code can't lie.
      Except the two commits listed above you
      couldn't find any commit made by the Console OS.
      There is no any feature developed by them.

      According the announcement in the Console OS Facebook
      https://www.facebook.com/ConsoleInc/
      (my comments for each item below)

      "What is on GitHub, right now?

      * The Android-x86 Core, with some of our improvements

      ==> at least he is honest that he uses android-x86 code,
      but what's the improvements??

      * Device-specific build targets for BayTrail-T

      ==> well, just renaming

      * A new home screen, Trebuchet (from CyanogenMod)

      ==> how could you called it an improvement by just
      adding a launcher from another open source project?
      besides, where is the source?

      * Intel drivers (though many are not active yet)

      ==> actually all of them are not active
      "

      Strictly speaking, this guy is legally to fork android-x86
      and sell it because this project is open source licensed
      (via Apache License, GNU GPL or BSD-like licenses
      depends on the components you use).
      At first I hope I can just ignored what this guy did
      and continue our development,
      But after reading more evidences including the
      comments of his backers and others,
      I think I could endure it no longer.

      Christopher Price continues cheating his backers
      and all others that "his team" is developing an OS which
      is much better than other competitors (including android-x86):

      http://consoleos.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/COS-competitive-061214-003.png

      However, one year and a half later,
      the guy just copied and renamed android-x86
      and then claimed this is his amazing OS!

      All the developers of android-x86 including me
      have spent many sleepless nights to code,
      test and debug android-x86 to make it better,
      but this guy just copied it to deceive his backers.
      The dishonest actions do hurt the android-x86
      community very much.

      I have to clarify I'm not against the business.
      Using android-x86 to do some business is totally fine.

      If at the time his Kickstart campaign began,
      he honestly described he will use and ship
      a unmodified (just renamed) android-x86 product,
      and the backers still support it. I'm fine with it.

      If he does make some improvements based
      on the android-x86 code, I'm glad to see so.

      However, cheating the world that he is developing
      something amazing on Kickstart in 2014
      but finally just copied an open source project that
      he degraded at first (see the competitive chart on his site)
      is very immoral.

      When Kickstart campaign began in 2014, he promised
      you "A" (a much better stuff) and accept your money,
      but now he just deliver you "B" (a totally different stuff).
      If you are a backer, can you accept?
      If this is not a scam, what is a scam?

      IMO, Christopher Price and his Console OS is
      *a cancer* that lives by the nutrient of android-x86.
      If we can't cut it immediately, he will continue
      absorbing the effort of android-x86 and finally
      choke this project.

      So if you still cherish the small achievements
      we have done so far, please help me to
      stop this guy from hurting the community.
      I beg for your assistance including

      * If you know some media reporters,
      tell them the truth about Console OS.
      Ask your friends to publish some news
      about the failed story of Console OS.
      Forward letter to anyone who heard the
      Console OS and tell them the truth.
      * If you are a backer, tell Kickstart and other backers
      the facts. Question Kickstart why they allow
      such a scam existing on its platform.
      Consider to take legal action to stop the scam.
      * I believe some developers from the community
      are helping Christopher Price to make the fraud.
      I ask you stop doing so since you're playing with fire.

      Let us know if you have any other idea to stop this guy.

      Please keep the discussion rational in this thread.
      Avoid words that may result in flaming war.
      Also avoid simply reply like "I agree" or "I support you".
      Please express your support by doing the above items
      or any useful thing you think.

      Finally, if you still believe Christopher Price and his vaporware,
      just go away since you are not welcome.

      --
      Chih-Wei
      Android-x86 project
      http://www.android-x86.org

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      graphidz on March 1, 2016

      So what's the progress on the refunds?

    19. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on March 1, 2016

      @Marco - Console OS is a software product. And you can download it, right now at http://account.console.com.co/

      We regret that we're English-only, but we only committed to that from the outset. Physical perks should be discussed in the next update for those waiting for Backer Plus update. We are working to get those couple hundred or so items shipped.

    20. Marco Weniger on March 1, 2016

      Ich frage mich, wann ich endlich mal etwas Physisches in den Händen halten kann, schließlich habe ich für dieses Ding bezahlt!? Ich gehe von Betrug aus und hätte gern mein Geld zurück!!!
      Klar könnte ich diesen Text auch in englisch schreiben, aber diesen Respekt dürfen Betrüger von mir nicht erwarten!

    21. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on March 1, 2016

      Update #33 is live: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mmv/console-os-dual-boot-android-remastered-for-the-pc/posts/1505967

      Update #34 should roll out some time tomorrow. It will include release notes and more details about Lollipop that will make it easier for backer to get acquainted. This will be alongside Wiki updates over the next week ahead of general availability.

    22. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on March 1, 2016

      @Sravan - We promised to post all the details for Console Developer Rewards by month's end, and we're going to get that rolling before midnight.

      We held an all-hands series of meetings over the past 24 hours, on something unrelated (but very cool). Once we get some rest, the Lollipop documentation is next up.

      When we say advanced, we mean it. Our goal over the Lollipop cycle is to replace the Advanced install path completely... it's just not meant for the average person, so documentation on that route may be sparse, at least at first.

      On the plus side, it will augment the Android-x86 community with more/better documentation, much as our Build Instructions and guides do on the Wiki already (those are going to get a few updates based on similar feedback we've gotten over the past week from Viewers Like You™ too).

    23. Sravan Reddy on March 1, 2016

      Good to hear that. Also i wasnt able to find the instructions for console os advanced , can you point me to the same

    24. Sravan Reddy on March 1, 2016

      Good to hear that. Also i wasnt able to find the instructions for console os advanced , can you point me to the same

    25. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on March 1, 2016

      To be clear, we intend to continue building out Lollipop and working to resolve these issues. Marshmallow is months off from being stable enough to ship beyond alpha testing.

    26. Sravan Reddy on March 1, 2016

      @ Creator - Thanks for releasing the Android L version of Console OS.

      Things which work great
      1) WIFI
      2) Touchscreen
      3) Audio
      etc etc

      Things that dont work
      1) The bundled gallery app
      2) Any app which is downloaded from Amazon app store

      I go to m.youtube.com on the browser and i get Audio and no Video

      Any application that is installed crashes immediately

      First came the DR1 , then now the lollipop and now you say you are working on Marshmallow.
      I would like you to please take a break and reconsider this move.

      First get a stable and bug free version of lollipop out and then worry about the next release. Dont go by marketing and other blah blah blah stuff. Your backers are who trust in you, you lose their trust and nothing will matter anymore.

    27. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 29, 2016

      @Keith - Sorry, you can download our Lollipop release right now at http://account.console.com.co/ and we're already at work on Marshmallow.

    28. Keith on February 29, 2016

      Can I please be refunded my $10. Please.

    29. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 28, 2016

      Well, we fixed the server issues, and updated the account software with a patch from our vendor...

      ... unfortunately, it didn't fix the password reset bug.

      So, what we've done is deployed an SSL certificate. This is only supposed to take a few hours to verify and activate, and it will make sure the password reset system work properly. Plus, our account system will then be secure end-to-end.

      In our testing, password reset is now working on https://account.console.com.co/ (Note the https).

      For the next few hours, you may get a certificate error. This is because the Let's Encrypt system has to co-sign the certificate. So, we won't send any updates out until tomorrow to be extra-extra sure.

      We're using the Let's Encrypt certificate for the first time, and we are excited to begin deploying it to all Console sites, and making https the default going forward!

      P.S. If you are using an old web browser, time to update. IE7 and earlier will have issues with Let's Encrypt. Chrome still works with Windows XP (for now), and Console OS fully supports Let's Encrypt domain names.

    30. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 28, 2016

      Hi all, we got a new IP from our host. It's propagating the DNS zone file right now, may take 2-3 hours to roll out... hopefully should fix things.

      We are not skipping a beat, and have moved over to rolling out Console Developer Rewards, as promised this month, late today.

    31. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 27, 2016

      Hi everyone, quick update.

      We have a patch that should (emphasis, should) fix the password reset bug. Unfortunately, our host provider moved us to a new server (we suspect, to keep up with the demand - now that we're shipping Lollipop).

      Well, as our Murphy's Law would have it, that move broke the SSH salts. We've opened a support ticket - we've hit a wall at this hour otherwise. It's particularly frustrating because we're really confident we can fix this bug, but our server won't let us in to fix it.

      We'll keep you updated as we go, as usual.

    32. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 27, 2016

      We're updating our account software right now. Don't panic if it goes offline for the next few hours, thanks!

    33. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 27, 2016

      @ Steve Clark: Wow, couldn't be more wrong. As some clearly disagree below - we are excited to be shipping Lollipop and we're already working on Marshmallow.

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      Steve Clark on February 27, 2016

      What a ripoff.. Where is my refund? You realize you have lost all credibility for life. Hope that 78K was worth it!

    35. ACH on February 26, 2016

      An installer? What else? Honest question.

    36. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 26, 2016

      This is simply not true, don't feed the trolls folks. We've posted at-length on how we are differentiating already.

    37. ACH on February 26, 2016

      It is not possible for my statement about spending time looking at commits to be false, because it happened. Every commit I looked at was a merge of code from other sources. As I said, I did not count configuration file changes. Feel free to provide counter-examples, but as we've all learned "we are not going to engage" is Prician for "I don't have a real rebuttal."

      Others have reported that there is no discernible difference between the latest Console OS release and Android-x86, which certainly jives with my observations above.

    38. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 26, 2016

      We are not going to engage with the false claims of the user below. Kickstarter has said they will remove him/her shortly. We apologize to backers for the repeated delays, Kickstarter has not explained to us why it takes over a week to purge an inflammatory backer in cases like these.

    39. ACH on February 26, 2016

      Unlike you I am not trying to use verbal gymnastics. I meant exactly what I said.

      It is objectively true that I spent awhile looking through the commits and everything I saw was either a direct copy-over from android-x86 (lollipop or marshmallow, doesn't really matter) or Intel. If you have specific counter-examples, by all means feel free.

    40. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 26, 2016

      That is just not true, we have taken actions to ban the user below. Unfortunately it has taken Kickstarter over a week to process those actions, and we discourage people from listening to him/her.

    41. ACH on February 26, 2016

      @xconwayx

      "There is a product out there that has been created for us to see. This is the second version even!"

      Yeah, the product is called android-x86 and it's had a lot more than two versions. After spending quite awhile looking at the iConsole repositories commits I was not able to find any code that wasn't copied from either android-x86 or Intel. Maybe some configuration changes but that's about it.

    42. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 26, 2016

      @Arul - We have opened a new ticket and sent you a link to it. Again, please stop spamming our wall with your isolated issue.

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      Arul Jayanth Muthukumar on February 26, 2016

      @mmv - scroll a little below for the reply given by Kickstarter support

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      Arul Jayanth Muthukumar on February 26, 2016

      But Kickstarter support has replied me there is no such ticket and they do not offer refunds through PayPal

    45. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 26, 2016

      @Arul - We have sent you an email, please stop spamming our wall with this issue. You have posted 9 comments about this in the past 24 hours alone. We cannot resolve this isolated issue on our comment wall, and have replied to every email from you.

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      Arul Jayanth Muthukumar on February 26, 2016

      @allbackers - still believing this, I recommend you to view this page http://consoleosripoff.com/
      Your friends over at CONsoleosRIPOFF.com have even made a handy guide. Takes only a few minutes to fill out a report. All the info you need is right here:
      http://www.consoleosripoff.com/showthread.php

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      Arul Jayanth Muthukumar on February 26, 2016

      @mmv - if you did offer me a working refund link and I get refunded, then iam not going to be a barrier for you and it's the only solution for both of us

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      Arul Jayanth Muthukumar on February 26, 2016

      @mmv -

      But Kickstarter support has replied me there is no such ticket and they do not offer refunds through PayPal

    49. Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. Creator on February 26, 2016

      @xconwayx - Thanks for your support, it has indeed been a massive drain on our resources. We're putting the final touches on bypass-methods that will allow us to move on from Kickstarter's delayed enforcement.

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