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Vim is beautiful (on the inside).  It deserves some beautiful reference material that actually helps you learn & use it!
Vim is beautiful (on the inside). It deserves some beautiful reference material that actually helps you learn & use it!
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      Brandon Wood on

      +1 for open source as well. I think you would still have people buying the poster.

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      Luis on

      Open source it after a little while. I wouldn't say a full year, but 5-8 months sounds reasonable.

    3. Pablo Navarro Castillo on

      +1 for open source too.

    4. delirium_light on

      +1 for open source. I too will actually feel BETTER knowing my money went into an open source project.

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      todd on

      +1 for open source. I won't feel 'jilted'. I will feel like I supported an open source project.

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      Philip Lee on

      +1 for open source

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      Raja Thiagarajan on

      I'm with the group that's in favor of open sourcing it (and your CC license sounds good). If you want to delay open sourcing it, my preference would be a delay of six months or less. But, as others have said, my goal was to support getting this done, not to put constraints on what you do with it afterwards.

    8. Zigmar on

      Open source it!

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      Jasen Betts on

      Open source it.
      I would still have backed at the same $10 level for an open source CC-SA copy.

      Qne way release and reward backers over non-backers would be to delay the CC
      and give backers a non-Free copy first - release the pixmap (png? jpeg?) version to backers on schedule, release the vector version weeks? months? later. I've waited months for this, Vim will still be the same in a few months time.

      "Indesign" I don't have it but I've heard of it. With the tools I have I can't edit anything more complex than SVG or EPS

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      Mohammad on

      Open source it!

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      Philip Quinlan on

      Another vote to open source it

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      HWM-Rocker on

      Open Source it. That would be great!

    13. Michele Berg on

      Open source it. I sponsored the project because it was a cool idea that I wanted to see come to fruition, not so that I'd have any exclusive rights to a file.

    14. Chris Sanyk on

      Open source it. All projects need to be funded. The people who do that believe in the project. We weren't signing up for future profits; we lose nothing by you making it freely available and we gain by being able to customize the design to suit our needs. Once the labor costs are paid for, there's no reason not to share the work. And you can always find people who'll be happy to pay for a high quality print, so I bet some people will keep buying them, just to have a nice copy on their wall.

    15. Yorik on

      Open source it under the GNU/GPL that way you get credit for your work if someone decides to use it afterwards. Open sourcing often makes things better through broader thinking. VIM is free, make the cheat sheet free as well. I am happy to support this, but thing that a few people, new to VIM might like something a little helpful to keep them going. Or they might go to emacs... :/

    16. Matt Lambie on

      Open source it on a specific date, which will allow you to sell it exclusively until then. That seems fair.

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      alc82 on

      +1 for mouse pads. Also I'm not a specialist in licensing. But this is a VIM cheat sheet and not the next smart phone app worth millions. So I say share the love.

    18. Zac Bowling on

      I would wait though only because I get to show off my poster for a while as something few people can get for free. It's partly why I back kickstarter projects is the early exclusivity of being first. Then open source it, maybe in 3 to 6 months.

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      Matt on

      This is an interesting question. Funding a project in this way is not about purchasing a product. When you fund a KS project you are providing seed capital to allow the project to come into existence. I contributed money to this project. The thinking for me was that I want this thing to be in the world. I am completely happy for the working files to be open sourced. I got what I paid for, which was for this project to proceed.

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      Laurence Emms on

      Also, I would probably have backed the project for less if you had told us beforehand that this would be open sourced.

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      Laurence Emms on

      I agree that you should wait at least a year. It would have been nice to know that it would be open sourced beforehand. I suspect that the people who only purchased digital copies would feel more jilted.

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      eric on

      Give it a year.

    23. Adam on

      I think you should wait 6 months to a year before taking the poster open source. If you announced from the very beginning that you were considering open-source, then I would be all for it. In the current situation, after paying, and then hearing about open-source plans, I feel like I wasted my money.

    24. Hazel Smith on

      As a backer who uses both Vim and InDesign, I would love to have the InDesign files, and am in favour of others having them too.

      Getting posters[0] from the first print run, and having my name on there, is enough for me, exclusivity (or lack thereof) doesn't bother me.

      So, +1 for Open Source from me too! :)

      [0] I went with the $100 option (+ some extra for international shipping costs, I hope $20 covers the extra cost of shipping 5 posters internationally) so I can have one for home, one for work and some to give to colleagues. I can't wait to get my hands on them!

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      Jonathan Lundstrom on

      I paid to get the poster, I'm fine if others can get it for free. Theirs not enough good posters out their for technical topics. Make it public and make more and I'll buy more from you.

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      Ofer Goldstein
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      on

      +1 for open source from me!

    27. Ross Timson on

      I think it's a great idea and very admirable that you want to give back to the open source community even though it might limit future sales. I may be being naive but I think many of the target audience will appreciate the gesture and will still pay.

    28. Sam Rose on

      Either way, money isn't everything :)

      +1 for the CC idea from me.

    29. Dave Fallon
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      on

      +1 for CC licensing. Strongly support/recommend that.

    30. Travis Carr
      Superbacker
      on

      +1 for this. I agree completely.

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      Pivotal Ops on

      +1 for Open Source, however works for you. Our funding wasn't to buy exclusivity, it was to support awesomeness. Our poster is in no way devalued by other people having copies.

    32. Robin Wood on

      Seeing as you've already given away a high res version to most backers it will appear on sites to download pretty soon so if people want to print it themselves they can.

      I suppose it depends on your business plans, if all you want to do is to make money out of it then keep the designs to yourself and sell the posters. If you are happy with the cash you've made already and want to move on to other projects then release the files as an example of work done so far and get on with other things.

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      Bill LaPierre on

      My preference is for the poster to be released under copy left. I backed this project so that someone would do the work for me, and better than i could do it, not so that someone could claim IP on what is essentially free information organized in a good way. And honestly, if you don't charge too much from your site, your price will be less than a single print due to your volume discount. The right thing to do is to spread the knowledge freely for others to share. Your friend is right, others may print the poster, but no matter what, others will find a way to make copies if they really want to do so. Thanks for all your hard work in doing this!

    34. Neil Munro on

      I paid for the project to have it on a massive sheet because I couldn't print something so large myself, even if I did download it for free!

      I have absolutely no problem with you opening up the designs, it's your project, am just happy to have contributed to it, and to possibly wind up my emac's using co-worker, I just need to find somewhere to put the poster!

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      Travis Hoyt on

      +1 what Shep Poor said.

    36. _Zed_ on

      I'd support the decision for using the CC-NC-SA

    37. Shep Poor on

      The CC license is a perfect way to go.

      The moment you publish the online version you could see unscrupulous vendors stripping your name and selling it as their own, and although copyright law is on your side it doesn't help much. I doubt the kickstarter community will feel jilted and I don't see the downsides of using a copyleft license with respect to pirate vendors. But CC does provide you two great benefits; you gain enormous good will, and you reap the rewards of the SA clause. So long as your price isn't enormously more expensive than going with cafepress or some other print vendor then you will be fine. You might want to check out visibone.com as an example of successful differentiation, he has opted for laminated 8.5x11 versions and mouse pads for his cheat sheets.

      All that said I agree with Dale's comment: "My backer pledge was to help get you started, where you go with it is entirely up to you."

    38. Pete Winterscheidt on

      I personally would be thrilled if you open sourced the design. People are always going to wish to add features to the cheat sheet. Perhaps someone could even include all the magic that happens in something like the ultimate vimrc: https://github.com/amix/vimrc.

    39. Julia Koelsch on

      I think it's a great idea to open source it using whatever license makes the most sense to you. It will be interesting to see what people do with it from here.

      Can't wait to hang my poster up at work. I'll refer all of my envious coworkers to your store.

    40. js0000 on

      i have no problem with you open sourcing your design. in fact, i think it's a great idea.

    41. Paweł Jacewicz on

      I'm totally ok with you going open source. Just as previous comments said, I've backed the project to make it happen and what happens next is really your choice. Keep up the good job and we are all waiting for the follow up :)

    42. sterfield on

      I like the "open source" way, but it's up to you. Opening your work will certainly prevent some sales from your site, but I don't think this will be too much.
      Opening the work will help to get you known (with a link to your website in the cheatsheet), and those you wants a true poster can buy it from you.

    43. Joseph Hsieh on

      I agree with Jonah. I think for those who will go through the trouble of modifying, improving or making alterations, and printing it out themselves - you won't miss the revenue for the value they provide. For the rest of us, who are less motivated, I think they will be more then happy to pay for the end result that may be better (or more tailored) to their needs. In the end, if you are the central repository for all derivations and have a "threadless.com style" publishing platform where the most popular ones are printed in mass, people will always go back to the source to buy/vote for the version/style they like the best.

    44. The Evolutionary on

      My feeling is this. People respect and appreciate those who release source file to give back to the community. The open source movement is a great example with people getting their fame and sometimes fortune as experts on the what they contributed to the community. If you release the InDesign file as a non-commercial license use, well, most us don't even know where to look for a place to print such files, and the few that do (I'm one) know its expensive to print one offs. You have an advantage of print "en masse" and can provide the product at a lower price. You can ALSO do a variation on merchandising. Mousepads, 14" and 15" screen covers, t-shirts (we LOVE that). If anyone really wants to recreate the InDesign file, they can do it. Beating them to it gives people that warm fuzzy feeling of you being the "good guy" and increasing available mediums to view the chart in fun, innovative ways would turn you a good profit I think. You may also consider designing a reference chart for another popular open source project as you have established yourself as an authority on the subject. Just some thoughts. I'd be all for release the file to the community. And I'd probably buy an additional item just say "thanks" for being a good guy.

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      Dale on

      I'm a fan of open source, and my backer pledge was to help get you started, where you go with it is entirely up to you.

    46. Tory Republic
      Superbacker
      on

      I think open sourcing the work would be great.

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      Michael on

      I say release v.0 under the CC-NC-SA license now for anyone to modify (for personal use) to their hearts desire. Any further revisions can be kept private and only available through your site.

      This is what I see most Kickstarter projects do and it seems to work.

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      Shawn Butts on

      I would not feel jilted at all and I don't think it would affect sales that much. I'd like to buy a few more as gifts. Even if I had the original file it would still be worth the money to have it properly printed.