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Update #5

Second stretch goal: local storage, manual shutter trigger and adjustable interval of photos

Wow, that was fast! The $150,000 stretch goal was reached less than 12 hours after being set! It also marks Memoto's Kickstarter campaign being 300% funded. Crazy. Since then, we've even surpassed the 400% mark ($200,000) and we think we really should reward all of you who are making this rapid progress happen.

So we're introducing a new stretch goal, one that would allow us to implement features we know have been requested by many of you backers. It might take a few days to reach but it shouldn't be impossible.

If we make it to $350,000 we will include three new features on the Memoto Camera:

1. An option to retain photos stored locally when syncing the camera through a computer
2. Manually take a photo and add a bookmark to the timeline
3. Adjust the interval of the photos
 

These features will be included in all units shipped, no matter when you placed your pledge, if we reach this stretch goal.

This is how it works:

Local storage will give you the option to keep the photos on your own computer. Many people are requesting this and we have been hesitant to promise anything because it changes our tech plan to some extent, incurring the risk of delays. With the amount of funding this stretch goal would provide we are more confident that we can incorporate this change.

To make it clear for everybody exactly what this means:
• You use the Memoto app and storage if you want an organized and searchable lifelog of your photos, enable third party developers to build upon our API, etc.
• When synching the Memoto Camera to your computer, you will have the option to store photos locally as well as uploading to the cloud
• If you cancel your Memoto subscription you will be able to continue to use your Memoto Camera, but you will have to organize the photos yourself
• Just as before, if you have no Internet connection when syncing, your data will be stored on your computer until next sync when an Internet connection is available
• Just as before, you will always be able to download or delete your photos in bulk from our cloud storage. They are your property.

We hope this is to your satisfaction! Just let us know in the comments below if you have any opinions on how this should work.

To manually take a photo and add a bookmark to the timeline, you simple double tap on the camera. The accelerometer triggers the camera and you are sure to have a picture of that exact point in time. Bookmarking means that the moment will be starred when viewed in the app; Both are triggered by the double tap. See video below.

This feature is something we've heard many people asking for. Although, it's not easy to fulfill, we think we should go ahead and include it in the first batch of units if we reach the $350,000 goal.

Being able to manually take a photo is useful at times when you know you'll want a photo, but don't feel like taking out your mobile phone or other camera device. For instance, when bumping in to a friend on the street, seeing your newborn niece for the very first second, or being outside a building you need to remember the address of. You can also use it for life tracking, for example, to keep track of every meal you eat. Bookmark data will be available through the API.

To adjust the interval of the Memoto Camera's automatic trigger, you plug the camera into a computer and set your desired interval in the software used to upload your photos. User testing will decide what intervals make sense to choose from, or you will be able to set any interval.

This also is a feature requested by many backers and others in our community. We understand that there are several ways of using the Memoto camera that we haven't thought of - some of which require a shorter interval, or correspondingly, don't need photos to be taken that often but instead save some battery time. An example of a situation might be: needing a higher frequency (and not as long of a battery time) when playing with your kid in the backyard or having dinner with friends. A lower frequency, and a longer battery time, would come in handy on hiking and fishing trips, when numbers of photos don't need to be high but charging your battery may be difficult.

We would love to see these features in the early edition of the Memoto camera. They do require quite a bit of extra work in development, but if we reach the stretch goal of $350,000 we will be able to go through with it.

Please help us reach this stretch goal! Put in a few extra bucks if you already have a lower pledge to also get the camera, and tell your friends who yet haven't backed us to do so.

With love,

The Memoto Team

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      Creator Leon Bryan on November 5, 2012

      Also what's up with the piano black version? :-P

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      Creator Leon Bryan on November 5, 2012

      Hello!
      I backtracked through the comment thread (I'll admit, not in its entirety) to see what ideas some people had. The addition of manual capture was a pleasant surprise I did not expect! One feature I would've requested apparently was already added, thanks for the time interval option, huge plus.
      I see plenty have voiced their concerns over the cloud service. I know it's included for the first year but you said it yourself; storage can amount to 1.5 TB per year. That's no small amount my friend. I would appreaciate roundabout pricing schemes ASAP as that amount of storage does not come cheap, regardless of what it's being used for and especially if I plan on using it for the years to come. I work in website maintenance so speak from experience, I just don't want to back the product then come to find out it'll cost me an additional $300 per year to keep my images from being wiped out (and that's low-balling it).

      What would I REALLY like to see? As of right now I believe you mentioned the lens you're utilizing has a 70 degree field of view. Am I the only one that finds this a bit narrow? The GoPro, for example, has a 170 degree field of view. Yes, the wide angle distorts the image slightly but captures so much more detail. I don't expect this to outperform a $400 professional grade full featured action camera but would like to see a wider field of view. I feel that with that angle you might miss some things because they're not directly in front of the camera. This might be too big of a request as I know the contruction of the device may be altered significantly to update the glass element, but would be much more confident in backing this amazing product if it did.

      I'm also interested in hearing about updates regarding your light/dark tests as well as low-light level performance from this sensor. Is nightvision too much to ask for?? hahaha.

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      Creator Mike Morrison on October 30, 2012

      Add NFC data exchange/ download, low power but increased flexibility

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      Creator Memoto on October 26, 2012

      Hi Adam,

      Thanks for input, we agree! However, the Memoto Camera itself doesn't find out the GPS coordinates. It only samples the radio frequency of the GPS satellites, and that data isn't converted into gps coordinates until we have processed it later. So there really isn't any lat/long to put in the EXIF. I explain it in my comment right below as well.

      Best regards,
      Martin

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      Creator Adam Zethraeus on October 26, 2012

      JPEG Exif seems like a logical place to put gps coordinates!

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      Creator Michel on October 25, 2012

      Thanks for the answer. I answer in the 'Comments'.
      Best Regards,
      Michel

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      Creator Memoto on October 25, 2012

      @Michel and @Nicky

      I understand your concerns! When developing a new product you always invest huge upfront costs. If you look at the Autographer for example, it is $650 without any storage included. When we say "first year of storage service included in this pledge" it doesn't equal "first year of storage service is financed by this pledge". The Kickstarter campaign is literally about financing the start of production, and we are already rebating our actual retail price by $80 on top of offer to storing all of your data for an entire year for you for free. Even if you don't value the last part so much, it doesn't mean that we would be able to offer you monetary compensation for declining that offer. I hope you understand.

      - Does the Memoto appears as any other USB device (memory stick, still camera, video camera, smartphone, tablet for some of my current devices) when it is connected to a computer?

      We are looking at this, the previous plan was to allow the camera to tunnel TCP over the USB. When rethinking this there are a lot of factors to take into account, i.e. it might not always be a computer that proxies the data from the camera to the cloud, but a wifi-enabled docking station or similar.

      - In which format are the pictures?

      Jpeg

      - In which format are the GPS 'radio' data?

      Since we made the decision to rework our transmission protocol from ground up if this stretch goal is met, we will not know the format of the GPS radio (and other sensor data also transferred) until we have looked into all trade-offs involved with designing a new protocol. The only promise we can make without inferring to much risk to the february shipping date is to offer photos as jpeg when stored locally. The radio data might only be binary files of integer arrays in raw format or similar, perhaps with some form of lossless compression. It is literally sampled radio data right off of the GPS antenna.

      Best regards,
      Martin

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      Creator Nicky Lewis on October 25, 2012

      @Michel

      The ability to use the camera without cloud storage (currently) will only be possible once the $350,000 level is reached. I agree; it should be less money-per-pledge for an option without cloud storage, rather than waiting for $100,000 more funding to make this possible. Hopefully, some major changes will be announced.

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      Creator Michel on October 25, 2012

      Hups! I think you don't answer to the following questions:
      - Does the Memoto appears as any other USB device (memory stick, still camera, video camera, smartphone, tablet for some of my current devices) when it is connected to a computer?
      - In which format are the pictures?
      - In which format are the GPS 'radio' data?

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      Creator Michel on October 25, 2012

      Thanks for this update.
      Now that I can us my Memoto without cloud storage ("If you cancel your Memoto subscription you will be able to continue to use your Memoto Camera, but you will have to organize the photos yourself") is it possible to have a new pledge level of say $199 - $69 = $130 for a Memoto WITHOUT storage subscription?

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      Creator Darran Turner on October 24, 2012

      Hey,

      You guys made it dead clear about your storage intentions well before the 2nd stretch goal. I backed you after the first stretch goal - which means I get a fully functional gadget. A lot of you other guys are moaning about the storage options - you need to THINK about the honest stuff these guys are talking about. I've had a time machine fail on me before now and lost a lot of stuff. Would I want to manage 5-10-15 time machines or 5-10-15 WD drives in a few years - not really. Would I like the option to chose to store locally? Probably yes. Would I subscribe for a few quid/dollars - absolutely. Am I as gadget smart as most of you who are thinking about this? No. Kickstarter is an amazing opportunity to be a part of something cool. I'm getting my Pebble soon. Take a breath - tell these guys opportunities you see - but get real with the philosophy they are after. Can't wait for mine. If I'm not wearing it, my wife or daughter will! Good luck guys.
      Darran

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      Creator Memoto on October 24, 2012

      @Nathan Yes, that would be great. Incorporating a Bluetooth chip might unfortunately be far too complex at this point.

      @Christian I'm sorry that we have failed you. We are doing our best to communicate clearly when there is a lot happening at the same time. This is however no excuse for such missteps and I apologize.

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      Creator Memoto on October 24, 2012

      @Kris and others, Thank you for this viewpoint. Yes as you can update the firmware in the Memoto Camera we can add a lot of features at later stages. For example the user could define exactly what double tapping should mean for them, switching interval, entering burst mode, setting bookmark etc. But we really don't want to introduce a lot of complexity this close to shipping.

      @Vitorio Hi Vitorio! Nice to see you here. Sorry to say, your question is difficult to answer at this point. We do want to provide means for an ecosystem around Memoto, and supporting an open API on user level is what we will start out with. It is impossible to say now where we will go from there. I hope you understand.

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      Creator Nathan Machine on October 24, 2012

      This is a big ask, but some type of remote way to change the picture frequency would be the most practical, as opposed to hooking up to a usb....maybe by iphone app?

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      Creator Christian Walde on October 24, 2012

      Note to self: Proofread after refactoring a post:

      s/failed/succeeded/

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      Creator Christian Walde on October 24, 2012

      You were asked an exceedingly simple question:

      "Will the Memeto device be accessible on my computer as a normal USB storage device?"

      Since you failed to entirely skirt around this question in a followup post dedicated to this very issue, i can only conclude that you have no capacity to trust-worthy behavior and will in the future only continue to exhibit such behavior. Thus you have just lost my backing, and will be subject to negative word-of-mouth on this matter.

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      Creator Marieke Brinks on October 24, 2012

      Thank you for this great stretch goal. I already pledged for the camera, but I will promote this project, to get more pledges.

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      Creator Vitorio Miliano on October 24, 2012

      Hi, we spoke at QS2012, including about local storage, and I wonder if it'd be easier/harder/better/worse to, rather than have the Memoto software itself support local storage, to instead support alternative desktop software by documenting the Memoto hardware device API? Or, does it already expose itself as e.g. a USB PTP device?

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      Creator JL on October 24, 2012

      Nice stretch goal. I will struggle for it !!

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      Creator Kris Aubuchon on October 24, 2012

      I assume you double tap and then there's a slight delay before the next photo.

      I do have to agree that interval changing on the fly would be nice — but you have to make some sacrifices for simplicity. We could all sit here and double the price and size of the thing with about 5 seconds of brainstorming.

      I do have to say though, a single button with LED feedback would probably allow for a great amount of functionality... maybe at 500k? ;)

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      Creator paydirt76 on October 24, 2012

      Thank you for considering other viewpoints. I am glad that you have added the stretch goals and hope you work on them over the following year if you are not able to meet the stretch goal within the time of the campaign.

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      Creator Andreas Cederström on October 24, 2012

      Nice that he double taps right over the lens. Will make a great picture :)

      I like the interval feature but it would make more sense to have 30s default and a burst mode switch. I know you dont like buttons but think about it - that time when you tried that awesome rollercoaster which you queued for 2 hours to get an awesome 4 minute ride. Then you only have 8 shots of the ride and chances are all of them will not be perfect because rollercoasters are fast! :) And you dont want to have 5s intervall all day wasting battery while queueing. ofc you could have put it in the pocket but thats not the purpose of this item!

      Nah I say it would be awesome with a burst mode via some gesture that enabled 5s intervall for 1.

      Or if you could program the device to have 2 intervalls which you could alternate between with some touch gesutre.

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      Creator Adam Zethraeus on October 24, 2012

      Good to see the three stretch features. They'd all be really cool.

      I have a feeling #1 would get hacked up by someone within a few days anyway ;)

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      Creator Andrei M on October 24, 2012

      Looking forward to this stretch goal. Very good response from the team to people's concern. I'm proud to have backed this.

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      Creator Roy Brouwer on October 24, 2012

      What will be the next stretch goal? This one could only take a day or two...

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