by M3D LLC
A little astray, I logged into my android platform onto kickstarter and could not find my comment in the Forum. there is only one other here on this windows platform and yet many many more on the android platform. Are these separate forums?
Printing stuff for wargaming and modelling also brought me here. I didn't want to start a general discussion about that company and their copyright policy.
I just want to keep possible trouble (resonable or not) away to have a smooth campaign :-)
Hi. I am interested in some nozzle variants. How do I manage my pledge? I was also curios in a future mod for the printer to accept a moving base plate. In this way it would be possible to print lengths exceeding the dimensions of the box. (My understanding is you have designed out the need for a heated base plate? ) Really looking forward to the end product. Any idea how many are pledged for Australia?
Normally I would agree with Ghrik about the copyright issue with respect to the particular gaming company he references. However, if the print is not for resale, there is nothing said gaming company can do. Let them waste their money on lawsuits they can't win. They have bigger financial concerns, like the 11M GBP they've lost in the last year. Keep up the great work on the KS. Miniature printing is the primary reason I want this printer.
Thanks for this update.
I just wanted to point out that the printed miniature parts are a "unlicensed copy" of a miniature from a company which is well known in the gaming community to violently go to court to protect their IP. So I suggest to use another example for future updates.
Smaller nozzle "them be user-installed, switchable" is good idea.
An optimal variant would be where a person may select a smaller gain nozzle once (and less expensive) or as an additional for switch at great expense.
Personally, I would prefer the second option (switchable nozzle). But people have the right to decide for themselves and pay respectively.
@Michael, the card holder was extremely impressive. It was able to do that huge overhang with minimal droop on the bottom. Probably a combination of a very small layer width and something techy and cool M3D has under wraps.
Ok, I'm impressed with the open air printing. with those buisness card holders. How exactly does it pull this off and and what are the physical limits? I've already got some ideas for minis with undercuts and I want to know just what is possible.
Hi M3D, I have been one of the first Backers and im truly amazed at the people that have given this product such great support, i was trying so hard to get some reason to fly over there from Australia to meet you guys at show but just couldnt do it, Hope fully when the storms stops i can get over there and meet you guys. Cheers again, P.S i have a few printers and i have never been so excited to now teach my wife and kids to print on this simple printer, truly amazaing M3D Team Keep up Good work
Woo Hoo! I'm in the video! It was great talking to Michael, David and everyone else there. Thanks for the update and all the info.
@R Travis Brown
I don't know if your first name is also Ronan, but I was addressing the comment made my Ronan Lamour.
@Reinhard Mitschang GREAT question! You can download the "roundcorner" tool from the plugin search feature - it's super easy. You can also through some complex manual features use follow-me rotation on an arc.
@R Travis Brown Thanks for your positive feedback, and coming to the show!
@Reinhard Mitschang Thanks! We have room to improve yet : )
@Ronan Lamour Thanks for your feedback. We do ask you to keep in mind, these prints are unpolished, untouched, unsmoothed, unpainted, and they are printed on a prototype Micro with a larger extrusion that 0.45 mm. There is much room to improve things but it is always going to be a little different than a store-bought model.
@Mark Wheadon You will have the option to choose to add support, we were just showing that you can print basically over thin air, which is cool!
@Jennifer Meinel Thanks for coming to the show! You are very welcome to post and share your link here so others can see it. It means more coming directly from one backer to another : )
@Dmitriy Volkovoy We are still evaluating the prospect of different nozzle sizes. It seems likely that we will offer 0.3 mm as an option but we still have to decide if we can have them be user-installed, switchable, or a one time selection. We'll have news before the end of the campaign so that if it is an add-on option you can include it.
@Sijbren Kuperus Thanks!
Ooooooh! Thanks for the pic! For a ~$300 finished-beta 3D printer I think they look fantastic.
@Daniel My comments on the detail were separate from the cost/benefit. I thought the prints looked as good as any of the other demo's except for the printer the NIH was using. That one was probably as expensive as it was ridiculously awesome.
Here's an enlarged and sharpened version of the Figurine Sneak Peak image above for those of you who want to see a little more detail: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ye9qhbuijdtpvm/864e027dda3dd64cb525fe8d89826b6e_large.jpg
Depending on your browser you may need to click on the image to see it at full res.
Follow me tool is great, but for a small round like that I would use the "round corners" plugin from Fredo6. http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore…
You need to also install the library support plugin. http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore…
I would recommend looking at all of the Fredo6 plugins (just do a search for Fredo6 on SketchUcation.com or Smustard.com) as they are highly useful tools.
It's also worth noting that it doesn't look like they've finished removing the support material on the miniature parts. So really they shouldn't be taken as anything more than what they're being presented as:
A sneak peak.
I'd like to see a photo after it's cleaned up and assembled but before it's painted though.
@Oliver: NICE! thank You very much!
Check the follow path tutorials in youtube.
btw: how exactly did you create these display-corners? I wasn't able to create models with rounded corners with SketchUp.
The detail is better than I was hoping for (M3D really should include that ruler in most of their images) but @Ronan if you're really interested in tiny figurines with near-perfect detail then you'll need one of those printers that uses UV and UV-activated resin. I've seen the output from one and it's impeccable. There are relatively cheap ones that use a cheap projector to transmit the outline into the resin for one layer, then move the work-in-progress one scan-line up in the resin and do the same again, and so on.
However, the set resin wouldn't be useful for anything structural (we tried to print a modified servo-arm for me, but it was way too bendy), it snaps if you bend it too far, it's about $100+ a litre for the resin(!), the resin can only stay in the tray for a few days before you need to throw it away, you have to coat the tray in expensive silicone (which soon corrupts the resin) and presumably the resin corrupts if you use it for more than a few prints, and so on.
So I'd say great if messy/fiddly/expensive for tiny figurines, but not really for much else...
My modified servo arm finally printed great in ABS on a modified Makerbot -- accurate enough and nice and strong. Horses for courses I guess.
[I'm new to 3D printing, so if any of the above is wrong or misleading my apologies!]
so nice :-)
Do you realise what scale that's at? Your expectations are likely too high if you think they're not very precise. If you're expecting quality rivaling infection moulded miniatures from a $300 printer then you'll have to wait another five, probably ten years before then.
Even higher grade printers can't do much better at that scale, I'm really impressed. It'll look good when it's cleaned up. Gives me confidence in printing larger scale detailed models (I'll make them multi part so I can create things larger than the Micros build area allows).
But yeah 3D printers won't be putting Games Workshop out of business...
agreed...they look nearly as good as most metal-cast figurines I've seen at this size.
@ Ronan Lamour these are very small un-sanded models. The detail looks pretty good to me. I don't know what you expect?
Also, I didn't even notice that the display case was not a retail case. kudos.
I was there at the show. The printer was printing at 50 Microns. I thought the detail was extraordinary. David, who I spoke with mentioned that they still have some minor "tweaking" left. What I saw was a fully functional printer. He also mentioned that they were still working on printer nozzles.
Minatures do not look very precise... Look like I made a mistake by pledging... Hope to see more precise pictures soon or maybe i'll remove my pledge. Sorry about it, if so. I'll check again on retail.
(Pro tip there.)
Thus showing that if your model cannot be printed without support, but you don't want the work of cleaning off that support, then add tentacles!
Why didn't you link to the different backer's comments and pictures from the event. You realize 10,000 people don't read the comments section, right? You talk about the backer comments who were at the show, but then don't tell people where they can see those comments. You might want to send an update with links to all the reviews and pictures the backers took.
"7 days to go":
Smaller nozzle option, When?