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@Redeicarciofi: Been posting regularly on the forums.
Still no news...?
@Chris Taylor; The only thing those who contribute at Kickstarter can expect is honesty and dedication, and I think you've shown both. Best of luck with the initial release - hopefully you will gain a bit of momentum (money wise) as soon as you get the game on Steam.
Well, I just hope thing'll be manageable from henceforth. All the best.
You seem surprised that people are getting unruly over this project? Delays happen all of the time and are expected so that's not the issue. It's the lack of updates and constant stream of broken promises that I think riles people up, and that is certainly in your control to fix. I posted something similar to this over 1 year ago in the forums, and nothing changed, so I don't expect any changes now either. But it sure would be nice if it would.
@redeicarciofi: I'm probably going to give too long of a response, but I'm going to explain myself since you felt it was necessary to report the project. Lots of projects take multiple additional years, due to time constraints, money constraints and any number of other issues. Go look at a number of games or technology that received millions of dollars from Kickstarter and still are late to deliver by years, haven't yet or worse canceled with no refund. Look at Clang for a perfect example, they took 500k and canceled taking the money.
With Arakion I've invested a large portion of my own money and blood developing it. It’s late, and I've repeatedly taken full responsibility for that. I'm also developing an extremely large classic RPG on a limited budget, if there is even a hint of an error it can take us days to fix because we don't have the team size to quickly resolve it. For instance we wanted to move enemies to a behavior tree, instead of being able to give an extra coder that job, the whole team has to basically pitch and get it done or else it would take forever.
Additionally, some things are out of the my control, if I invest a few thousand dollars in a coder or artist only to later find out they had no business working on the game and inflated their resume, I've lost that money. I use it as a learning experience and realize I'll have to freelance to get the money to hire someone else. This takes time from the project.
With 47k there was a very low amount of room for error with hiring. After taxes / kickstarter / amazon, you only end up with a fraction of what was invested in the first place. So now I'm down to ~30k. Add in the failed hires and suddenly what looked to be enough quickly became not nearly enough. I manned up, worked my butt off and refilled the reserves to continue developing, eventually I found a fantastic team who deserves every cent they are paid.
Should I have launched the Kickstarter when Arakion was further developed? Absolutely, but life is a learning lesson. Kickstarter is the spark that launched Arakion, I can't thank everyone enough for believing in the project, backing and joining me on this journey. To repay, I'm taking the time, putting in the hours, spending the money and making sure we get to the right destination.
December 2013...and still I'm here waiting for an alpha?!
I reported the project.
@Chris Taylor: that is much appreciated! Thanks!
We have lots of fun events / bonuses / benefits planned for all backers. All backers will be getting alpha once my freelance contract is finished and I have spare time to get all the cogs in place.
@d10sfan: that would certainly be a nice gesture!
Who all will be allowed into the alpha? Considering the length, would it be possible for lower tiers to get into the alpha as well?
Good to hear you're still working on this, Chris. Making games is hard!
Hope everything's going alright?
Will have an update on the 16th, my freelance got pushed a little longer than expected. It wraps up on the 16th and alpha will launch shortly after.
Will have an update this weekend, still finishing up that freelance to pay for production through beta.
Any news Chris? Starting to get a bit worried about this.
Yeah will give an update soon, been finalizing some freelance to finish paying for the Alpha and Beta.
Can you give an update?
Still rolling out alphas, running a little slower than expected but we're adding tons of new features and fixing a lot of broken things. Thanks so far for everyone help and everyone else you'll be in soon!
Just so everyone knows looks like we're going to be closer to the Thursday end of things on the alphs release, we're working extremely hard we're just finalizing everything for you all!
Good to hear. I'm very excited. Arakion was my first backed project.
@Andre: Alpha will be linux as well although we don't know what adjustments need made, so that's why it's alpha!
Is the alpha Windows only or is it possible to test it on Linux?
no problem. Good to read you are able to fund development yourself as well. I've backed a few Kickstarter-campaigns that ran into financial trouble after some time, having to spend funding on factors that they estimated to be lower (taxes, promotion etc.). I think the Early Access option is a good idea. It did wonders for the Legend of Eisenwald team: not only did they gain additional income, but build a large fan-base and did an extensive beta-test to boot.
@Zerotown : Appreciate that, I'll add a little more to that by saying we're still self funding.
Chris has posted a small update on July 19'th. You can read it on the game's official forums (http://bit.ly/XOULGM). I'll paraphrase some highlights for you and other backers:
- The game is still being developed, but at a slower pace than expected.
- The team hope to release an alpha-version in august, but emphasize that this is an internal goal.
- The team are exited about the playability of the current internal build.
- The enlisted community member (mentioned in update #50) has not been able to free up time to help out.
- The Kickstarter money has basically run out, with the exception of money reserved for physical rewards.
- The team are considering selling the game as Early Acces to generate additional income.
@Groultok : Yeah sorry I'll post the next update on Kickstarter.
Like a month since the last comment, but still no update ! I'm leaving soon in holidays, hope i will have some news before !
@Zerotown: Everything is going well we'll have an update soon!
hope everything is going well with the team and the development of Arakion. Is there an update on it's progress planned? Both the Kickstarter-pages and the official forum are becoming silent.
@Ham: Ment to write this with the post, although I haven't updated Kickstarter we've been working constantly on the game and we're about a week or so from alpha, I'll make a large kickstarter update regarding how to access it. Until then the forums are the place for current up to date info.
This ever gonna happen?
@Malau: Been updating on the forums.
Any new updates recently? I've not heard anything from Arakion for a while now.
i'll have to take a look then. i just don't tend to remember the forums very much. so what dawn said is very applicable.
I, for once am totally confident that the game is being made. I didn't see any videos since i don't go to forums (when you got over a hundred backed games..you can't go to their respective forums..).
But, i can clearly tell that chris is just really enthusiastic about his game and that he is wary to release anything before it's perfect in his eyes. it's his baby, he worked alone on it for quite some time. It's understable.
But for most of us who don't have time to go to forums, it'd be nice to have sometimes an update here and there with some of those so-called videos.
@Trister: We put a bunch of dev videos on the forums for anyone that wants to see them.
my opinion on it when i backed it was i have doubts about the game getting made, but eh, what's a few bucks to help get past the stretch goal it was near. honestly it wouldn't surprise me either way, but i hope that the game is getting made and that alpha becomes available soon. the hold over on the not releasing it because of bugs and minor things is exactly the same thing that inxile did with wasteland 2, so could be legit. but it would be nice to see some of the unfinished things. even if you don't like releasing unfinished assets chris, it shows us, the backers, that you are working on things. you can always say it's something that is still a work in progress and we'll all understand. but releasing something as a show of good faith would be a good idea at this point, especially since the more frequent updates fell through again.
What bothers me is that all of the stuff we've seen in the "making-of" vids now posted on the forum could have happened 2 years ago for what it's worth. No gameplay equals no alpha. I'd want to hear a comment of one reliable backer who'd say he'd gotten into the alpha. Until that's not the case, we don't have any reason to believe the project has made any progress whatsoever. Backers will rather be suspicious of the supposed developers lying. Nobody wants that.
All the best to you, Chris, if you *are* working on it. And sorry if this bothers, but it's how things are for now...
I love indie's, I support them all the time. But indie's are part of the community. They post updates, they keep their potential user base informed, they show the latest screenshots, they post development blogs of the technology they are using, they are responsive to their users, they post tech and gameplay videos, but most importantly they are proud of the product they are producing and want to share it with the world. This project has done none of the above.
There are no updates, very few screenshots, not one gameplay video, and only promises of "more frequent updates" and then never delivering. If this project is really so close to alpha, why has there been nothing? And please, please don't patronize us with "it's because we are working so hard on it".
So instead of just whining in post, I'm calling for action. How about making a commitment to those that paid you by backing your project that you will:
1) post weekly development updates of what's going on with the game, starting this week
2) post weekly screenshots of the game as you are playing / testing it
3) post a gameplay video THIS WEEK
These things should have been going on this whole time but it's time to actually commit to this and have the backers hold your feet to the fire.
I don't think any of the above is unreasonable. Can you commit to the above?
How do I get the alpha?
Good was starting to wonder if there is any update on this project.
Hopeful we can see this within this month.
Major update and release soon, we're working day and night. Appreciate everyone hanging in there!
Has anyone actually gotten into the alpha? What's it like?
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@Adauli & Wayne: We're close to begin launching rapid updates and alpha testing. We've all been working crazy hard these last few months to get everything perfect. More info tomorrow.
Its again 10 days after the update promised the last time and the last update is nearly 3 months ago. So a new update would be good maybe even with a video showing some ingame scene.
As much as I've been looking forward to this game, I've begun to write it off in my mind.
The forums are seemingly abandoned, no status has been posted in 2 months, the promised alpha is continually postponed and there has been no gameplay video that I can find since the initial Kickstarter videos.
I'm not sure what is going on and I want to be positive, but from the outside things don't look to hopeful. We really deserve regular progress updates with achievements and failures. There was promises of regular updates, but those also have not materialized.
Please help me regain my faith.
@Eero: It's getting close, will be here soon.