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What a fraud this was. My very first Kickstarter, terrible.
Glad all the other projects I invested my money on were handled in a very, very different way.
Shame on me for supporting this,
Shame on everyone else who supported this,
Shame on every developer ever involved with this project.
We as gullible fools will keep supporting these people and will keep getting ripped off. When we reflect upon all the crap in this world we can only blame our selves for why it happens. They will keep ripping us off and we will keep smiling and ask for more.
Hi! I signed back in to tell you to eat a poop. bye
This gives a really bad name to all the indie devs involved also.
I managed to login to my account in the LA Games Space website that still miraculously exists. There's the promised Keita Takahashi game there, and then 21 other games in the Experimental Game Pack 01.
Then hilariously in Indie Classics Bundle 01 there are only Aquaria and Super Crate Box: X-mas Edition available for download. So backers for example never got The Basement Collection, Noitu Love 2: Devolution or Blurst Snack Pack which are until eternity listed there as "coming soon". For example the promised Off-Road Velociraptor Safari is not even listed there.
Basically from the experimental pack, only the smallest games are there, most of the big name indie devs games are missing, maybe never even supposed to be there like Pendleton Ward & Bennett Foddy's game or Cactus's (Hotline Miami) game. or Ben Esposito's (Unfinished Swan) game.
What a joke. I pity anyone that actually paid money for this stupid nonsense idea.
UPDATE: Fangamer just sent out a message to me, and I can only assume all other backers, apologizing for the serious delay and lack of rewards fulfillment -- it sounds like they've been trying to get in touch with the LA Games Space team for a long time, to no avail. They offered me some store credit as compensation. Super nice of them to even apologize, let alone offer store credit in lieu of my rewards. I give them a lot of respect for following up on this, even if it was to say they cannot send the rewards. They didn't have to, but they did, and I think that's worth something. Also, it's certainly more than we've gotten from the LA Games Space crew. :\
I reached out to Fangamer a few weeks ago to see the status of my rewards, as I still have not received them, and I was informed that they are still waiting on the assets from LA Game Space before they can fulfill the order. They also mentioned they pinged the LA:GS team about it, and were waiting on a reply. Can we please get a response to what we can expect for the rewards, even if it's confirmation that we won't receive them? Not getting any updates for literally almost 2 years is incredibly disappointing and does not make me want to support this any more.
Can we get an update on things that have happened between Oct 2014 and now?
I remember getting some pack of games a long time ago, didn't remember I wasted 25 dollars in to this.
So what is going on with this now, nothing anymore?
so like.....what's the deal with never getting some of the games in the indie bundle......I see the basement collection actually exists but I never got a steam code. what is the deal guys
So, was this a sham in the end? Never got to see any of the rewards I was supposed to get, be they the games or the shirt.
I just remembered this thing and that I never got my digital game pack of 30 games. I'm assuming this was $15 ill-spent?
@fei Yep! According to them, for reasons that are really booooooring to normal people like us. You know, like the difficulty of renting a space, getting insurance, some IKEA furniture. How booooooring. Maybe they are weighted down by carrying around over $300k of our money? *rolls eyes* *enjoys posters*
I still wear the shirt. Which seems to have lasted longer than the gamespace itself...bummer.
Just remembered i never got my stuff from this :/ welp thats 15 dollars ill never get back
Not gonna lie, pretty disappointed.
OMG Is this serious ?
No place project anymore ?
What a joke.
Just to finish up here, it looks like they finally have updated their site and taken out any mention of a space: http://lagamespace.org/
I feel better now knowing that there is no more illusion of this ever happening. It is still a huge bummer though as the money was essentially used to print the posters and the rest was pocketed.
I was looking forward to collaborating with them and having a gaming HQ downtown but I guess that is the way it goes. Good lesson about kickstarter.
Nice to see them finally getting called out on it. I can forgive the delays, confusion - I'm sure projects like this can be difficult and overwhelming - even if done for the best intentions.
Unfortunately they chose to deal with this by being evasive, rude and treating their backers with contempt.
Just FYI. This kickstarter has been included in a list of kickstarter vaporware here: http://kotaku.com/12-successful-kickstarters-that-never-delivered-1687019268
This is the comment they left: The launch of our permanent space has been delayed. Institution-building is a lot of work and can take a long time, and the reasons are usually boring to the public. Still, we are proud of everything that LA Game Space has already delivered, enthusiastic about our upcoming events, and still working towards the launch of a permanent physical space."
Guys, there hasn't been any information in a long time, could you please tell us what's happening and what's going on.
No rewards, no gamespace, no comms, not a lot to show for all that money raised.
Can only hope that anyone researching LAGS checks this page out.
So guys and gals of LA Game Space, what's happening with the physical GAME SPACE?
Seems like you've fallen off the planet since September, just wondering what's going on, when it's opening etc.
As for something that was funded 2 years ago, there should be some expectation of this being open.
Darn. Missed that update about emailing by October 25th if you didn't receive the physical rewards. But I guess I wasn't the only one.
Lol never got anything it is December 2014
"Indie Classics Bundle 01" is still missing most of the games. is there an ETA?
A lot of the games have not yet been delivered. any updates ?
Are there updates about progress on the space? I'm still, after all this time, very excited as an Angeleno. I'd love to contribute. :)
Hey guys, are you still sending the physical rewards? I haven't received anything yet, what's happening?
Hi everyone. I'm curious, did most people receive the physical rewards? I was supposed to receive a t-shirt, but that never came.
Sooo.... what's happening?
Soooo just wondering, are we ever going to get the rest of the games we were promised? I got an email the other day about you guys hosting some sort of event, and yet you've shorted your backers rewards and been really awful at communication. The space could have been such an amazing thing but you've gotten off to such a terrible start. What's going on?
Can we get an update about the space?
I pledged $150 . .... received nothing. Lesson learned.
Are the other Indie Classics games going to ever go up? Three of them still say "Coming Soon", including Edmund McMillen's "Basement Collection", which I was curious about...
So did everyone get their rewards? I backed at $55 + a bunch of extra shirts and haven't received anything yet. :(
The black squares on the poster (one of them, at least) is a screenshot from Real Sound by Kenji Eno. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Sound
i got the email from fangamer confirming my address a full month ago, but no shirts. what gives guys?
It seems the only decent physical reward were the T-Shirts, glad I didn't go for a print. But I wish we could get some word from them about the zine, as I'd really like to find out how it ended up being that… thing printed on coloured paper.
Of course hearing about the LA Space itself would also be nice. I can't imagine they would be doing a runner After having distributed the rewards, though maybe that's why they seem to be so cheaply produced. I can see them turning around and saying that they badly underestimated the costs, and have run out of funds… or maybe this is what has happened, and they just can't bear to admit it.
BTW, I think the black squares on the poster are intentional… I think they're "screens" from a game that was entirely sound based, so had No visuals…
Middle schoolers could have produced higher quality rewards than what I received. They went right into the trash. Heart-breaking.
I just received the print pack. I was waiting for these to arrive for so many months I had stopped counting. Even though the paper quality and ink colors look good to me, the feed marks are a real disappointment. I had bought frames for these, but they are not even suited to being put on the wall with tape. Sure, you are bound to get some displacement with a risograph process, and it is part of its charm. But these height-long track marks ruin the prints. These should have been better printed. I mean, if I was picking them up from the printer knowing these were art prints, I would know something was wrong with the printer choice or the printer itself. I was expecting a reasonable quality risograph art print, and instead I got disposable newspaper. The need for a reprint should be evident. Even though I must say I was pleased with the bonus sticker, what is up with the zine? Is it that folded orange paper thingy, as others have speculated?
As for the space itself, I can only wonder what has or has not happened with the place. The project had so much potential, being a physical space for game research, while still being connected to the rest of the world via the internet. This was a project that could have had an impact, with its goals and immense pool of participating artists and available talent. Sadly, the updates were scarce for a project that was made for people to better exchange information together.
Now that the rewards were shipped, looking back on the entire project, I am awaiting the next update to see the current state of things and what we should expect with the space's future.
The quality of the prints is atrocious. Have the artists seen these? I would be mortified at how butchered my work appears, if I were them. There appears to be track marks on every single print of mine, where perhaps the prints were fed into the machine...or something. Who knows. Regardless, they look horrible. Oh, and my t-shirt is grey now when it was supposed to be black. But hey, par for the course.
After a year of waiting with vague-to-no-responses from Adam, Daniel & co., the rewards print quality debacle and seemingly no physical game space to speak of, I can safely say this is my first Kickstarter "horror story."
The thing that confuses me the most out of all of this, is why you spent so much time and money initially building your very own software delivery platform for the games, when other services such as Humble Bundle already exist? The fact that building that platform was never part of the original Kickstarter pledge irks me. At least you ultimately partnered with Fangamer rather than spend backer money on making your own fulfillment service. Although I'm sure it was likely discussed.
Yea, disapointed. To LA Game Space I say: You should have been more transparent. Not a whole lot of tweets on your Twitter page with updates, nor here on Kickstarter. Obviously your choice of printer was misinformed. Mine are so mangled, I'd actually like a reprint. Not numbering them also feels like a missed opportunity. Much like this whole campaign, really. I applaud you for trying to do this, but ultimately it feels like the backers were let down. And that's just a shame when we're talking about Kickstarer.
I second the disappointment with the physical rewards. You get what you pay for with a risograph but these prints look worse than a mimeographed math test i would have taken in second grade.
Also, for anyone curious about the actual "LA Game Space," I think they've decided to take the money and run...
Received the rewards...
Why does it look like the prints were printed from a home consumer printer on draft quality settings? Colors are washed out. The print color is splotchy and generally just cheap. I'm absolutely disappointed. I'm requesting a reprint please.
How's the progress of the physical space going? Can't wait to check it out in person!
Received my package yesterday.
The tshirt is nice. really happy with it
The big poster is fine, the fold doesn't bothers me. The shipping would have costs way more if it were in a tube.
My big disapointment is the ""limited edition LA/GS ZINE"". Is the orange 8x11 folded paper actually the zine in question? You had such a wide range of nice artists and you came with this?
Two of the squares on the poster are just black and there was no zine in my package either. Can't say I am too impressed about receiving a foldout poster rather than one that was shipped in a tube either.
Received my Physical Rewards today... Finally. But...
The Poster is a slight disappointment, since as Ashley points out, it's just a bunch of screenshots. Considering the talent you enlisted for the T-Shirts(Which were among my rewards, and looks awesome), I'm surprised you couldn't find someone to spice it up a little, maybe a pixel artist to make it a isometric landscape of coolness? But that's just a little nitpicking really. The other thing is somewhat more... disappointing.
The Other things is... What happened to the Zine? Just like Bennett below, I have no Zine, just a... "Digitally Printed Poster", that makes the flyers I designed for the local Anime Club look professional. If this weird green thing is the digitally printed poster. Did anyone get a "Zine"? Does the Zine actually exist? Did I miss the update where they mutated the Zine into this thing?
Anyone know any answers?