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      Creator archiebunker on March 10

      Here's an interview Ladar did with ReasonTV about two weeks back. He makes reference to DarkMail, so that's a good sign.
      http://reason.com/reasontv/2014/02/28/lavabits-ladar-levison-on-snowden-why-he

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      Creator Valeriy Ostapenko on February 19

      > I pledged $ 10.000 dollars

      My condolences...

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      Creator Edsard on February 19

      On November 25th 2013 I messaged Ladar. This was before the funding deadline had passed.
      In essence my question was: "How likely is it that you will make the Feb 2014 deadline?"

      Ladar responded on December 1st 2013:
      "Hi Edsard! We'll likely have something ready by the end of February, although it might not be production ready. I was expecting the SC team to have finished the protocol docs by now, so I may have to proceed without them if they aren't done by Jan 1st. Check back with me at the end of January for an update. The best way to reach me is via the office at 703 291 1999... and THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT! L~"

      I subsequently messaged him on January 2nd, January 16th and January 28th.
      All messages went without reply. By now frustrated, annoyed (and at the point where I feel cheated) I also sent a message to him via Facebook on February 9th. And yet again.... no reply.
      I called the number he provided and left messages and yet again... no reply!

      All the while I see on his Facebook that he is busy with his "legal battle", which from the transcripts I have listened to, amounts to a $ 10.000 dollar contempt charge. Nothing else.
      At the same time I see a picture of his legal team which probably costs BIG $$$.

      I can not help but think that the pledges amount has been used on his legal battle instead of what we pledged for. The fact that, despite numerous attempts on my part, he has not responded since the project was funded has left me with a very very bad taste in my mouth. I pledged $ 10.000 dollars (which for me is a BOATLOAD of money). The least the guy can do i respond.

      What are my options? Ideas?

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      Creator Domino on February 15

      "On Wednesday night, law enforcement officials contacted Kickstarter and alerted us that hackers had sought and gained unauthorized access to some of our customers' data."

      "While no credit card data was accessed, some information about our customers was. Accessed information included usernames, email addresses, mailing addresses, phone numbers, and encrypted passwords. Actual passwords were not revealed, however it is possible for a malicious person with enough computing power to guess and crack an encrypted password, particularly a weak or obvious one."

      I'd like to thank Kickstarter for providing us with frank (and hopefully timeous) information on this risk to our security. I'm not aware if Kickstarter's disclosure is standard procedure for an online company who's customer data has been breached, as it's the first time this has happened to me. I came here to help improve security. Speak up if you're feeling the irony!

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      Creator Valeriy Ostapenko on February 14

      Somewhere along with out pledges.

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      Creator Brett Ferguson on February 13

      Where are the updates?

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      Creator Max Nager on February 7

      @Valeriy
      Thanks for sharing that! Mailpile does indeed look much better than Virtru. However, at the moment it seems that Virtru is the only existing encrypted email service that works with other providers, which is disappointing. I guess now all we can do is wait. I just wish Ladar would at least post one update. It's sad because the Dark Mail Alliance looked the most promising.

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      Creator Valeriy Ostapenko on February 5

      Seems like Virtru is going to store all private keys on their servers. No thanks.

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      Creator Jose Fernandez on February 4

      It would be very much appreciated if at least an update per month is posted to be able to keep track of progress with this project. Thanks.

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      Creator Marcus Ilgner on January 28

      Another update would certainly be appreciated. It has become quite silent here. And Facebook? At a guess, the people who want secure and private communication probably have little in common with people using Facebook. The darkmail.info website doesn't say anything about hiring developers either. Quite disappointing, if I may say so. But I still hope the tech will come out right in the end...

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      Creator Sebastian Flemig on January 22

      I also thought there is no progress. However, look at Ladar's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KingLadar - he is searching for skilled developers. At least, this is some information, rather than the absolute silence going on here.

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      Creator John Marcuse on January 16

      @Domino: Your not the only non-techie and I know nothing of IETF. But as you noted, it sure does seem lonely here. Perhaps Mr. Levison created this project after one beers too many and then loosing a bet. Rather, I'd like to think it's hard for somebody who made a career out of privacy, finds it difficult to bare his soul to almost 3,000 public backers. All the same, I wish he'd let us know the dark hole he seems to have crawled into is of his own making, and not one even deeper, created by others.

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      Creator Valeriy Ostapenko on January 12

      Awsome feedback) I'm glad i've lowered my pledge to $1.

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      Creator Franck Royer on January 3

      Any update on the project?

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      Creator Domino on December 18

      Is anyone still reading comments here? If so, does anyone have any comments on the following: http://tinyurl.com/ietf-uta-group

      It appears that the IETF has formed a group to issue guidance on secure email protocols. Is this a complement and benefit to the Dark Mail Initiative, or is it competition? If there are two competing protocols, what guarantees would we have that the IETF's is free of back doors etc? Would it be open source?

      I don't even know if those last questions make sense when discussing protocols (versus software), but I guess I'm not the only non-techie here, so anyone who can shed light is most welcome.

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      Creator Mark Campos on December 6

      Maybe they hoped it would fail? Or rather, the people in the shadows who greased the media's hands hands hoped it would fail?

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      Creator Michael Ronayne on December 5

      When Lavabit's Dark Mail Initiative project in Kickstarter was launched on November 4, 2013 there were numerous reports in the media. When the project was successfully funded on November 27, 2013 there almost no reports of the project’s success in the media, as the following Google News search strongly suggests:

      http://www.google.com/search…

      If the project had failed, would that event have been so widely ignored? Does anyone have any idea as to what is going on with the media? Even previously reliable news sources have remained silent.

      Mike

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      Creator Paul Grous on December 4

      Ladar Levison's talk at Harvard University's Special CRCS Lunch Seminar on 11/26/13
      https://www.youtube.com/watch…

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      Creator Apothecarian on December 1

      Just a recommendation from someone who has been a part of quite a few kickstarters.

      Don't try and get those t-shirts and stickers right now.

      Wait until closer to the end of the project and know that you can spend the money without concern of putting yourself in a bind. I would much rather the project completed with relatively little stress than have stickers and t-shirts.

      There isn't a rush.

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      Creator Lachlan Hunt on November 30

      This was funded 3 days ago and not a single update has been posted to give the current status. What's going on? Has there been any progress since this was announced? Can you give an expected schedule outlining your planned work on this? You really should maintain regular communication with your backers

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      Creator Steffen Nyeland on November 30

      Respect to the people like Domino - that see the need and get the message - without getting distracted by the technical nature.

      Thanks again for this initiative.

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      Creator Anders Rune Jensen on November 30

      Tell me more!

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      Creator Guy Sheffer on November 29

      No announcement?

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      Creator Apothecarian on November 28

      The world needs more people like Domino.

      I don't know who you are, Domino, but you have earned a great deal of respect from myself and many, many others.

      I wish there was a way that I could demonstrate my appreciation for what you have done, as it is truly worthy of praise. Thank you.

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      Creator Mark Campos on November 28

      Toby, maybe you don't have the funds necessary? o.o

      I used Visa and it collected fine.

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      Creator Ikaraam Ullah on November 28

      Well-deserved, congrats!

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      Creator Tijs Maas on November 28

      Wow you actually made it, congratulations!!

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      Creator toby on November 28

      Hi, is something fishy going on or is it just me? Mastercard seems to decline my payment, I've already tried it three times...
      Thats the first time I have such troubles, every other Kickstarter payment went through without problems.

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      Creator Boone on November 27

      Yeah, so we're all on a watchlist now...

      Wait, I mean, congratulations to everyone! I was worried we weren't going to make it, but I'm thrilled to see that it all seems to have come together!

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      Creator Chris on November 27

      I hope we hear from Ladar

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      Creator Mark Campos on November 27

      Congrats everyone!

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      Creator Jörn Huxhorn on November 27

      wat? funded? oO

      I'm seriously surprised and looking forward how this pans out.

      @Domino If you really did that then I bow to you. Thanks a lot!
      In case of failing payment you could always give Ladar the missing money by some other means. This project, assuming it won't get suspended, would be funded anyway.

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      Creator Akos Szederjei on November 27

      Wow, I am astonished that we reached the goal of 196608. Great news though!

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      Creator Frédéri POCHARD on November 27

      @S.D.: last-minute pledge withdrawal wasn't what I was concerned with as lately some "scam pledgers" played a nastier game with some projects by filing for credit card refund (by-passing Kickstarter, through thier credit card companies or Amazon Payments) and getting those money backs long after the project got funded (as opposed as "less than 24 hours before it got funded").

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      Creator S.D. on November 27

      Creating multiple profiles to exceed the single-pledge $10k limit isn't remotely unheard-of on Kickstarter. Further, Kickstarter policy forbids withdrawing a pledge within the last 24 hours of a campaign if such a removal would put the project below the funding goal. Lastly, regardless of pledges failing to deposit after a campaign closes successfully, the campaign creator is obligated by contract via Kickstarter policy to make all efforts to deliver, despite the reduced budget. No specific enforcement exists for this policy, but it makes a credible foundation for a civil suit proceeding, something realistically only available to residents of the same U.S. state as the campaign creator.
      In this case, we need Levison and his team to make his best possible effort toward achieving a reference implementation of dark mail and release the sources no matter what state it is in when the money runs dry. It is up to us, backers, to pester him throughout development to keep us updated. Monthly reports are the absolute minimum threshold for accountability, reports in which he shares the project plan and monthly progress. It would be great to do as much development out in the open (in the tradition of the best free software projects) and to welcome community involvement.

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      Creator Robert Neumann on November 27

      @Domino: Thanks for your message and thank you for your engagement! I hope we will have a good product in 2014. I was asking myself the same question: About 3000 People supporting something that will be hopefully a really big thing. But it is, as it is and let's look foreward.

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      Creator Frédéri POCHARD on November 27

      @Domino: thanks for the clarification and for your commitment.
      I guess you understand it was a much needed one given the "scam pledges" that undermined several KS project lately.
      Thing is it's better to have a project not meeting its goal than having a project APPARENTLY meeting its goal and then, days or weeks after the end, getting busted by scammers contesting their pledges and getting their money back. Because in that latter case, money has already been spent by the project creator, still the project most probably won't be able to be delivered and other backers won't get the opportunity to get their money back.
      I guess the person the most interested with the info you gave is Ladar himself. So he can be more confident about the real funding status of his project.

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      Creator Michael Chastain on November 27

      Hello Domino and others,

      I pledged several days ago with a large donation and "No reward". My pledge happened to fit in a single account. My account is under my real name and it is the only account I have on Kickstarter.

      My pledge is legitimate and I will be happy to communicate with either Kickstarter or Ladar Levison directly about any details regarding it.

      I encourage other people to keep supporting this project -- I would feel a bit put upon if people started withdrawing their pledges now that the project is funded (well, except for Domino -- assuming he is telling the truth, he is seriously stepping up.)

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      Creator Domino on November 27

      “Somebody once said that in looking for people … you look for three qualities: integrity, intelligence, and energy. And if you don’t have the first, the other two will kill you. You think about it; it’s true. If you hire somebody without [integrity], you really want them to be dumb and lazy.”
      ― Warren Buffett

      My problem is: it can take years to develop sufficient confidence in someone’s integrity. Occasionally, an exceptional person in extraordinary circumstances can rapidly demonstrate such integrity though courage and altruism in the face of adversity. Ladar Levison, by his conduct over the past few months, clearly qualifies as such a person. Regarding intelligence and energy, meeting Edward Snowden’s crypto-requirements and attracting almost half a million customers (respectively), speak sufficiently to those qualities. By collaborating with Silent Circle, and notably Phil Zimmerman (the original crypto-dissident and creator of PGP), I feel we’re about as close to a ‘privacy dream team’ as ‘American Exceptionalism’ is likely to produce.

      Many others here have commented on various insufficiencies: inferior video; no whitepaper; poorly documented business model. I am not in IT, so my assessment of the viability of this venture is necessarily less complete than most others here. The hurdle, as I understand it, will be to encourage widespread adoption of a new standard by those whose business models (reading our emails) might suffer therefrom. These are valid observations for an entrepreneur seeking venture capital. But we’re not investing; we’re donating. Addressing these concerns would involve unacceptable delay. The emerging Orwellian reality, combined with Ladar’s growing celebrity, suggest that now is the time to seize momentum. I’m willing to embrace that inevitable consequence of uncertainty: faith.

      I do have a question. Where’s everybody else? I mean the 1%? I’m 10 000 miles away in Africa. When I discovered this project a week ago I made a commitment to make up the deficit, should any exist, on the final day of funding. Given the billions that flow through Silicon Valley and the risk facing U.S. tech companies today (Cisco earnings?), I didn’t expect that I would have to make good on that commitment. Every day Bloomberg West parades a new tech titan for its viewers, surely one of them could have thrown some ‘loose change’ Ladar’s way? A good PR move? A vote of solidarity? Just show all us consumers of your fabulous products that you care.

      Perhaps your media is sending a vastly different message to the one we are getting. Then again, perhaps it is ‘our’ obligation to act more than it is yours. You guys are debating the erosion of your Fourth Amendment rights. We never had such rights to begin with.

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      Creator Domino on November 27

      @Frédéri POCHARD

      My name is Dominic. I suspect your concerns may be directed toward some of my recent pledges. I assure you that I am no troll, and my pledges are not scams. For the record I am the person behind the following 7 profiles on Kickstarter: Domino; Domino2; Domino3; First; Africa Loves Lavabit; Rosa Parks of Privacy; This Should Do It.

      I promised myself a week ago that I would make up any funding deficit for this project on the final day. Unfortunately, I was unaware of the $10 000 Kickstarter pledge limit, so what was supposed to be a call to the bank followed by an online payment last night, has evolved into a 12 hour ordeal of opening email accounts, creating Kickstarter profiles and making Amazon payments. I’m aware that this project’s launch was aimed at the ‘email protocol community’; but I last created a new email account back in 1997. The reason I’m claiming ‘No Reward’ is that I have no use for source code, and no idea what binaries are.

      It hadn’t been my intention to post here in any manner so as to claim credit or praise for these numerous pledges, but there’s nothing like a sceptic questioning an honourable motive to make a man want to stand up and be heard.

      There is another reason I’m posting this. I obviously experienced some difficulties getting around the pledge limit. I found the following webpage stating that Kickstarter has no objection to the use of multiple profiles to exceed the pledge limit, but policies can change:

      http://betabeat.com/2011/06/corporate-takeover-kickstarter-largest-single-donation-red-bull-air-guitar-move-2011-06-2/

      The free email service I signed up to ultimately decided that I was indeed a troll, and retroactively cancelled the email address associated with my ‘First’ profile. Amazon hasn’t objected yet, but may suspect an error when it tries to process multiple payments on the same card for the same amount.

      Clearly my concern is that if one of my payments doesn’t process, the project might go below the funded level. I trust that Kickstarter will address the issue before abandoning the project. For the record, I’ve cleared the payments with my credit card company.

      Also, I should mention that as I was making my last couple of payments, another worthy benefactor or two made some significant pledges. Whoever you are, thank you. However, given Frédéri POCHARD’s concerns regarding scam pledges, perhaps you could say ‘hello’ as well. If your pledge disappears, we might find ourselves underfunded.

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      Creator Robert Neumann on November 27

      I know, I was just looking for the the "modest possibility" to compensate one 10k pledge;-)
      Hope dies last...

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      Creator Frédéri POCHARD on November 27

      @Robert: I had an eye on this project almost all day long, there were more than one (probably 3) very suspicious $10k pledges (one of them at least was a "No reward" one) in the last 8 hours. So I'm afraid the project might end up suddenly being like $20k or $30k underfinanced, not "just" $10k.

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      Creator Robert Neumann on November 27

      Yep, I hope there will be some late pledges, so that it reaches 206609,- this would mean 10001,- more than necessary...

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      Creator Frédéri POCHARD on November 27

      Unless I get some answers from Ladar Levison concerning those very weird "no reward" $10,000 pledges registered today, I guess I'm going to reduce my participation to $1 (from $100) as there is a huge risk these suspicious pledges are going to get pulled off after the project deadline and the project will then be ending up dangerously underfinanced (missing like $20k or even more).

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      Creator Frédéri POCHARD on November 27

      It even seems that those $10.000 sudden leaps in the total amount pledged are not linked to any reward level but are "No reward" contributions.
      From what I heard about the recent "scam pledges on KS", this should really blow the whistle here.

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