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The goal is to cleanup and release the source code that was used to power Lavabit as a f/oss project with support for dark mail added.
The goal is to cleanup and release the source code that was used to power Lavabit as a f/oss project with support for dark mail added.
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    1. Amix on April 30

      I'd expected some information for my money ;-) but ... well, I think that's it. The code is on github - more was never promised:
      - access to the official binaries when they're released to the public
      - help make dark mail a reality

      Another project which comes to nothing - or let's say come to not much for the backers and society.

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      Martin Schoen
      on December 1

      Anybody know what's going on with this project since the 2/10/17 update?

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      Jakob Pilgaard Pedersen on August 6, 2017

      Where's the promo codes?

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      Lachlan Hunt on January 27, 2017

      So apparently DarkMail has now launched on Lavabit, but there's been no offical announcement either here or on, nor anywhere else to let all your backers here know about it. In fact, there's been no update here for over 2 years, and no forum posts on for All most of us got from this was a letter and sticker, with some mysterious code printed on the back with a note that it might be useful one day. I thought maybe it might be a code we could use to be able to sign up for a free trial period or something when it launched. But it's still useless as far as I can tell.

      Well, WTF is going on with that? Will it ever be useful for anything?

      There's also been complete silence about why all the developers but Ladar and his dog jumped ship, which is annoying.

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      Brian Ouellette on August 16, 2016

      So wtf is going on with this? I got a sticker but no secure email.

    6. Adam Coggins on July 14, 2016

      The source code repo continues to be updated. Last update was July 7th. Not sure why he's incommunicado here.

    7. Amix on June 1, 2016

      Hi, I would really love to get some update here. I am very curious what's happening. Tech/funding/political or personal problems? I feel kind of naive but I still wish us all that there will be some useful output!

    8. J Lianoglou on January 18, 2016

      Gang. What's happening here?

    9. Heri Sim
      on November 18, 2015

      This project is my make or break for crowdfunding and Kickstarter. I donated to this project out of pure good intent for the future of privacy. If this donation does not come to good use, I have totally lost hope on Kickstarter and crowdfunding as a whole.

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      Hans Hagedorn on November 15, 2015

      "Dark mail could land as a preview as early as Thanksgiving, or by the end of the year at the latest, he said."

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      Justin Paine on November 1, 2015

      And this is a great example of why I gave up on Kickstarter. Give people some money and they just take it and run. I'll just donate to charity next time.

    12. Kevin Hanson on October 18, 2015

      Is this thing dead? Did we just toss $200K into a money pit?

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      Brian Berry on August 12, 2015

      If the project was dropped because it was found to be technically impractical that should be communicated to prevent others from going down the same rabbit hole.
      If it was from lack of funds, that is a different issue.

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      Brian Berry on August 12, 2015

      I can no longer reach the dark server.
      It is about 8 months since the last update.

    15. Darrell Thompson on April 23, 2015

      Have you posted a video or written a paper describing how you would go about writing a new internet protocol? I am curious because I think maybe it's time a bottom-up versus top-down approach is needed. If you have thoughts on costs for a proof of concept and scaling, that would be helpful, as well.

    16. Darrell Thompson on April 23, 2015

      You're bright guys, well into this inter-networking stuff... I hope you can answer a question for me. Why does the IP standard for IPv6 differ so much from IPv4? Why didn't the powers-that-decide simply switch from base 16 (0-F) to base 32 (0-V) keeping the same structure? I imagine the adoption would have been smoother, faster and wider.

    17. Martin Bryant
      on March 17, 2015

      Could we have some more, regular updates please. I see no reason why you can't get to a keyboard once a month and spit out a few sentences on the latest news. Even if there is no real news, yet let us know that you're still alive and kicking. :-)

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      Jeff Grayson on November 24, 2014

      Any information on release date or status? Some information is better than none.

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      Harti on November 12, 2014

      An update would be really nice.....

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      Max Nager on November 1, 2014

      I am sure they'res no money left. Ladar is hard at work, but I just wish he would pass us an occasional update.

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      Justin Paine on October 29, 2014

      Yeah ...going to need an update very soon or will be requesting a refund here. This is getting ridiculous. This is starting to look like yet another funded Kickstart project that fails to deliver.

    22. John Griffiths on October 22, 2014

      Any news on the release?

      Originally magma classic was to be released to the lower tier backers on August 5th, but so far we're nearly thru the end of October, about 2-3 months after that deadline and no word from the team.

      Any idea on the status of the project?

      If it's still in development that's fine, just be really nice to get an update from the team.

      Very best,

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      Max Nager on October 11, 2014

      It's possible they suffered the same fate as Truecrypt.

      I don't know about DoxBox, but there is a fork of Truecrypt called CipherShed that I'm following.

    24. Derek Mawhinney on October 2, 2014

      Does anyone have info on why the FreeOTFE free "on-the-fly" transparent disk encryption program is no longer supported?
      I see that about four months ago a FreeOTFE is used as the basis for DoxBox.
      Does anyone have a opinon on DoxBox?
      I understand read on the internet that it will work on Windows 7 machine in "Test Mode"

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      Justin Paine on September 3, 2014

      Here's hoping for a meaningful update (and code) for the funders....

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      Max Nager on August 29, 2014

      For those who have received Magma Classic, what are your thoughts about it?

    27. Jason Donahue on August 27, 2014

      I have to agree with Michael. You were expected to release the Magma Classic around August 5, 60 days after the top tier donors got the code. There are now 4 days left in August, where is Magma Classic? If it was released to the top donors, obviously it was ready. The estimated delivery for this project was Apr 2014! This is nearly 5 months past due. What are you waiting for?

    28. Michael Mullin on August 16, 2014

      Ladar. I funded this project at $25. I know that I am not your highest backer, but I funded based on the understanding that you would release the source code to the public 60 days after your top tier funders.

      It has now been 70 days. I expect you to honour the understanding by which I funded your campaign, or to refund my funding.

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      Kevin on August 12, 2014

      I really like the videos, thanks for posting those.

      I know you've got a lot of things going on but I am really itching to stand up at least a magma classic server with the intent of standing up a magma dark server as well... all I need are the binaries. I'm ok with bugs or lack of documentation or whatever is stalling the release... but you're making the kids wait until new years to open their christmas presents.

      I've got space on my host allocated for these servers, let's get this (Choose favorite: private/encrypted/free/open to the world/closed to eavesdropping) party started.

    30. Thomas Ungricht on August 6, 2014

      Thanks for the HopeX videos!

    31. Franck Royer on August 6, 2014

      I am still waiting for my cd :/

    32. Zedd Epstein on August 6, 2014

      It's been 60 days. Is there a code drop?

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      Max Nager on July 22, 2014

      Enjoyed your talk at HOPE. Perhaps you can work out a way to post it.

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      Max Nager on May 31, 2014

      Hushmail is technically free too, so long as you remember to use it once every three weeks. So I guess the question is which one is more secure.

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      Max Nager on May 29, 2014

      I don't see how Protonmail is any different from Hushmail, apert from being more free and less open.

    36. Ladar Levison Creator on April 29, 2014

      qwc123... the high level architecture design is done... the focus has been getting it on paper in a form others can understand... protocol level and object format design is ongoing...

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      qwc123 on April 29, 2014

      I would at least like to see a highlevel architecture that shows, how it would be possible to hide communication metadata. The actual implementation could also be done by others then who don't have "legal hiccups" ...

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      paul120987 on April 28, 2014

      I guess this guy just left with our money. I actually thought I was doing something good by donating.

      We're probably all just on some list now. Great

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      Max Nager on April 18, 2014

      I can't believe Ladar went Pro Se. I would think that, given the precedential value of this case, organizations like the ACLU or EFF would provide him with counsel pro bono.

    40. archiebunker on March 10, 2014

      Here's an interview Ladar did with ReasonTV about two weeks back. He makes reference to DarkMail, so that's a good sign.

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