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This project is my make or break for crowdfunding and Kickstarter. I donated to this project out of pure good intent for the future of privacy. If this donation does not come to good use, I have totally lost hope on Kickstarter and crowdfunding as a whole.
"Dark mail could land as a preview as early as Thanksgiving, or by the end of the year at the latest, he said." http://www.zdnet.com/article/dark-mail-debut-to-open-door-for-lavabit-return-ladar-levison/
And this is a great example of why I gave up on Kickstarter. Give people some money and they just take it and run. I'll just donate to charity next time.
Is this thing dead? Did we just toss $200K into a money pit?
If the project was dropped because it was found to be technically impractical that should be communicated to prevent others from going down the same rabbit hole.
If it was from lack of funds, that is a different issue.
I can no longer reach the dark mail.info server.
It is about 8 months since the last update.
Have you posted a video or written a paper describing how you would go about writing a new internet protocol? I am curious because I think maybe it's time a bottom-up versus top-down approach is needed. If you have thoughts on costs for a proof of concept and scaling, that would be helpful, as well.
You're bright guys, well into this inter-networking stuff... I hope you can answer a question for me. Why does the IP standard for IPv6 differ so much from IPv4? Why didn't the powers-that-decide simply switch from base 16 (0-F) to base 32 (0-V) keeping the same structure? I imagine the adoption would have been smoother, faster and wider.
Could we have some more, regular updates please. I see no reason why you can't get to a keyboard once a month and spit out a few sentences on the latest news. Even if there is no real news, yet let us know that you're still alive and kicking. :-)
Any information on release date or status? Some information is better than none.
An update would be really nice.....
I am sure they'res no money left. Ladar is hard at work, but I just wish he would pass us an occasional update.
Yeah ...going to need an update very soon or will be requesting a refund here. This is getting ridiculous. This is starting to look like yet another funded Kickstart project that fails to deliver.
Any news on the release?
Originally magma classic was to be released to the lower tier backers on August 5th, but so far we're nearly thru the end of October, about 2-3 months after that deadline and no word from the team.
Any idea on the status of the project?
If it's still in development that's fine, just be really nice to get an update from the team.
It's possible they suffered the same fate as Truecrypt.
I don't know about DoxBox, but there is a fork of Truecrypt called CipherShed that I'm following.
Does anyone have info on why the FreeOTFE free "on-the-fly" transparent disk encryption program is no longer supported?
I see that about four months ago a FreeOTFE is used as the basis for DoxBox.
Does anyone have a opinon on DoxBox?
I understand read on the internet that it will work on Windows 7 machine in "Test Mode"
Here's hoping for a meaningful update (and code) for the funders....
For those who have received Magma Classic, what are your thoughts about it?
I have to agree with Michael. You were expected to release the Magma Classic around August 5, 60 days after the top tier donors got the code. There are now 4 days left in August, where is Magma Classic? If it was released to the top donors, obviously it was ready. The estimated delivery for this project was Apr 2014! This is nearly 5 months past due. What are you waiting for?
Ladar. I funded this project at $25. I know that I am not your highest backer, but I funded based on the understanding that you would release the source code to the public 60 days after your top tier funders.
It has now been 70 days. I expect you to honour the understanding by which I funded your campaign, or to refund my funding.
I really like the videos, thanks for posting those.
I know you've got a lot of things going on but I am really itching to stand up at least a magma classic server with the intent of standing up a magma dark server as well... all I need are the binaries. I'm ok with bugs or lack of documentation or whatever is stalling the release... but you're making the kids wait until new years to open their christmas presents.
I've got space on my host allocated for these servers, let's get this (Choose favorite: private/encrypted/free/open to the world/closed to eavesdropping) party started.
Nice interview with Ladar:
Thanks for the HopeX videos!
I am still waiting for my cd :/
It's been 60 days. Is there a code drop?
Enjoyed your talk at HOPE. Perhaps you can work out a way to post it.
In other news
Hushmail is technically free too, so long as you remember to use it once every three weeks. So I guess the question is which one is more secure.
I don't see how Protonmail is any different from Hushmail, apert from being more free and less open.
qwc123... the high level architecture design is done... the focus has been getting it on paper in a form others can understand... protocol level and object format design is ongoing...
I would at least like to see a highlevel architecture that shows, how it would be possible to hide communication metadata. The actual implementation could also be done by others then who don't have "legal hiccups" ...
I guess this guy just left with our money. I actually thought I was doing something good by donating.
We're probably all just on some list now. Great
I can't believe Ladar went Pro Se. I would think that, given the precedential value of this case, organizations like the ACLU or EFF would provide him with counsel pro bono.
Some news on the legal front.
Here's an interview Ladar did with ReasonTV about two weeks back. He makes reference to DarkMail, so that's a good sign.
...at least right now...
> I pledged $ 10.000 dollars
On November 25th 2013 I messaged Ladar. This was before the funding deadline had passed.
In essence my question was: "How likely is it that you will make the Feb 2014 deadline?"
Ladar responded on December 1st 2013:
"Hi Edsard! We'll likely have something ready by the end of February, although it might not be production ready. I was expecting the SC team to have finished the protocol docs by now, so I may have to proceed without them if they aren't done by Jan 1st. Check back with me at the end of January for an update. The best way to reach me is via the office at 703 291 1999... and THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT! L~"
I subsequently messaged him on January 2nd, January 16th and January 28th.
All messages went without reply. By now frustrated, annoyed (and at the point where I feel cheated) I also sent a message to him via Facebook on February 9th. And yet again.... no reply.
I called the number he provided and left messages and yet again... no reply!
All the while I see on his Facebook that he is busy with his "legal battle", which from the transcripts I have listened to, amounts to a $ 10.000 dollar contempt charge. Nothing else.
At the same time I see a picture of his legal team which probably costs BIG $$$.
I can not help but think that the pledges amount has been used on his legal battle instead of what we pledged for. The fact that, despite numerous attempts on my part, he has not responded since the project was funded has left me with a very very bad taste in my mouth. I pledged $ 10.000 dollars (which for me is a BOATLOAD of money). The least the guy can do i respond.
What are my options? Ideas?
"On Wednesday night, law enforcement officials contacted Kickstarter and alerted us that hackers had sought and gained unauthorized access to some of our customers' data."
"While no credit card data was accessed, some information about our customers was. Accessed information included usernames, email addresses, mailing addresses, phone numbers, and encrypted passwords. Actual passwords were not revealed, however it is possible for a malicious person with enough computing power to guess and crack an encrypted password, particularly a weak or obvious one."
I'd like to thank Kickstarter for providing us with frank (and hopefully timeous) information on this risk to our security. I'm not aware if Kickstarter's disclosure is standard procedure for an online company who's customer data has been breached, as it's the first time this has happened to me. I came here to help improve security. Speak up if you're feeling the irony!
Somewhere along with out pledges.
Where are the updates?
Thanks for sharing that! Mailpile does indeed look much better than Virtru. However, at the moment it seems that Virtru is the only existing encrypted email service that works with other providers, which is disappointing. I guess now all we can do is wait. I just wish Ladar would at least post one update. It's sad because the Dark Mail Alliance looked the most promising.
Seems like Virtru is going to store all private keys on their servers. No thanks.
And https://www.mailpile.is/ also