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Roadie Pocket Hub & HydraDock Desktop Dock Can Be Pre-Ordered Soon.
Roadie Pocket Hub & HydraDock Desktop Dock Can Be Pre-Ordered Soon.
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Important Update On The HydraDock Project Status

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This is an update where we cannot agree on a neat, simple way to say what needs said. So, we will just post everything we know today.

Short version:

Due to some completely unexplainable incompetence by our China factory, we are stuck, and have to pause everything until we can arrange new money to move forward.

Longer version:

Both our factory and our new Hong Kong fulfillment center have basically been dark with communication for almost two weeks, during a period where we were told the two products would be completed, sent to the warehouse, and shipments begun to backers and preorders. It has only been over the past two days that we have had any information from them at all.

All we have known is that no shipping emails have gone to anybody, and, no emails or calls from us have been answered in this period. Our representative in Shenzhen was told on Monday that nobody was available to meet with him when he visited the factory office in person.

And yes, that is an infuriating, very frustrating part of this “run it from the US, and build it in China” model. If they don’t want to talk to us, it’s easy for them to avoid us — even turning away someone we physically send to their facility there.

What We Know

What we think we know is that the holes that were to be quickly re-drilled and “stretched” a bit on the HydraDock PC boards by a shop there had problems, with many boards damaged. How many? We still do not know. What sort of damage? We don’t know.

It seems that somebody at the factory realized this was going to be their fault. And, instead of just telling us immediately, they decided to rush an order of enough new boards to replace the damaged boards, and hold shipping until those new boards were done. And, it seems the new boards ordered were exactly the same as the ones needing the holes re-drilled. So, they sent those right back through the same re-drilling process at the same shop, which of course caused more damaged boards.

And… we only began to get emails telling us about this situation yesterday.

If we had a team assignment to dream up the stupidest, most ridiculous story to tell, we could never imagine this level of craziness. We cannot believe that a supplier with the reputation ours has could possibly make these sorts of errors over and over again. But, they have. And, we have to deal with it.

What We Are Facing

The factory has now told us that none of the existing boards can safely be used, due to the drilling damage, and the risk of hidden or delayed damage from delamination of the boards. They say we need to do a new production run of HydraDock boards, using the revised mechanical design that relocates the holes to match the enclosures that are already made. And, they say that since they tried to resolve the problem first at their cost, we must pay for this new production run of 4,000 PC boards! They say that they will give us a reduced price because of the situation. And that is where we are today.

So, we have a crazy demand from a factory in Shenzhen, China to pay them $52 each for circuit boards to replace boards that they damaged in an effort to correct a hole misalignment problem that they created by using the wrong CAD to build the last run of circuit boards.

We actually only need about 2,100 HydraDocks to fill all current rewards and preorders. The other 1,900 was to be forward inventory. So, assuming the factory will do a reduced order, we “only” need to find about $150,000 somewhere to make the required payment.

Anybody tracking this crazy situation over time knows we do not have that money. But, our core team is still committed to this project, believes in our obligations to backers and preorders, and still believes in the future of HydraDock as an important USB Type C brand. So, we’re going to try and solve this problem.

What We Can Do

We have been contacted a few times this past year by larger companies interested in buying HydraDock from us. We are reaching out today to see if any of those still have that interest. We are also reaching out to the Nashville funding community to see if we can make a deal there. We will pursue any ideas at all that pop up for pushing past this situation. Basically, we are scrambling to find a “white knight” to step in and get us past this problem.

Obviously, we have paused preorders until we know when/if we will be able to produce and ship HydraDocks.

There are over 900 Roadie pocket hubs due to people, most of them attached to rewards and preorders also including a HydraDock. At the moment we cannot see how we can do a Roadie production run and ship those separately, because of the costs involved and then still having to ship the HydraDocks at a later time.

If the HydraDock situation cannot be fixed soon, one possible step is to proceed with the Roadie production run and shipments — and look at shipping a Roadie in place of a HydraDock on rewards and preorders, if that is the only action available to us at the time. All production and shipping costs for the Roadie are already prepaid for a 2,000 unit production run. So, it would cost us less than $50,000 to increase this amount and replace all HydraDocks with Roadies and go that direction. — but ONLY if no other options are possible to get the actual HydraDock completed.

In other words, we are stuck at the moment. Frustrated. Angry. And stuck.

We have shut down preorders until we get this solved. We will post anything new about the situation here. And, we will be scrambling to do anything possible to move beyond this latest problem and get this project completed.

Our Situation

Finally, we want to share our feelings about this situation: We feel ashamed and embarrassed at how this has all happened. We have dragged over 2,000 people into some ongoing drama over what was supposed to be just a really cool little computer accessory — a year and a half ago! And while it’s been painful for us, at this stage it is a major frustration and ongoing annoyance to all of you out there. We know this.

Our Commitment

We’ll do everything we can to fix this. And, we will continue communicating through the process.

As always: Thank you for your support and hanging in there with us.

The KickShark Team

Comments

    1. Dan Koeppel 4 days ago

      You guys said "later this week"'for an update. That was on 10/17. Twelve days later, nothing.

      When will you learn that promising something and not delivering - over and over again - just makes you look worse. Stop doing it! If you say you'll have an update within days, and there's a delay in that update, then telling us that there's been a delay should BE the update - and not silence.

      You claim your factory has been falling at communications with you. That may be true, but given your apparent deficiencies in that department, I'd suggest you own your own failures in that regard.

    2. KickShark 10-time creator on October 17

      Hey guys,

      Hang in there. We hope to be posting some good news later this week. Thank you for your patience and we'll be in touch soon!

      Mike
      KickShark Team

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      Simon Bradbury on October 14

      Is there any further news on this ?

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      matthew bell on October 6

      I will say I am feeling pretty screwed on this whole deal. The level of incompetence is sort of hard to fathom. Wish I could be kinder, but I have been very patient and just dislike that you guys can't get your act together. If you were my girlfriend I would have kicked you to the curb many "updates" ago.

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      Simon Bradbury on October 4

      As I too already have an OWC dock that I have been using for ages now, I would be happy to take two Roadies instead of one Hydra dock and one Roadie ... or at least one roadie .... If the production run is paid for then run it and at least some people get something

    6. David Ramsey on September 29

      Well, as some politician once said, "At this point, what different does it make?" If you find $150K, something else bizarre and expensive will pop up. Reading over the timeline of this project, I literally cannot believe all the things that have gone wrong. I wrote off my investment long ago-- hey, it's Kickstarter-- and while I appreciate your desire to see it through, I really don't see the point.

    7. Dan Koeppel on September 29

      I want to add that I am not accusing the kickstark folks of anything - but with so many players and suppliers in the chain, there are certainly incompetents, wishful thinkers, and folks willing to tell lies to be found along the way. Buyer beware, because even the best intentioned and smartest folks can sink into this kind of ugly quicksand.

    8. Dan Koeppel on September 29

      1) I feel for you.
      2) I'm not surprised.

      But the sympathetic part of me is pretty overruled by the fact that you only now have stopped taking preorders, though I'd add that anyone who did preorder after reading about the many levels of both incompetence and simple poor judgment on this product would have been crazy.

      Hey, it's a kickstarter. I knew I risked losing my money. But I hope that your story becomes well known, and acts as the cautionary tale it should be: kickstarter is a game, and with the levels of incompetence, fantasy, and poor ethics that game holds, it is one that the average player is almost certain to lose.

      Good luck to you, nevertheless, and thanks for the honest communications.

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      Harald Lemke on September 29

      Hope you manage to keep your spirits high!

      By the way... I'd be happy with a roadie...

      Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

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      Stephan Lindner on September 29

      Don't worry. I don't really need it anymore. I bought the OWC USB-C docking station long ago, it looks great and works quite well.

    11. CB Luigart on September 29

      BZ! For the transparency (bz? Google Bravo Zulu) - like the other comments here I'm rooting for you. Initial engineering is always difficult and while the reward is painfully delayed it's worth the trek!

    12. Martin Van Gelder
      Superbacker
      on September 29

      Really frustate. I think, it is more misunderstanding with factory and you. I hope, you will learn to go, yourself to this factory, instead delegate to somebody else.
      Waiting for better result. MvG

    13. Dan Havens on September 29

      I feel for you these things are never easy and this project has had every that can go wrong go wrong. I'm still in it for the long haul at this point it will be a triumph to ship.
      I've already written off the money i knew what I was getting into when I contributed.
      Good Luck I'm still rooting for you.

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      bjorn berg-andersen on September 29

      What a Bummer!
      Hang in there guys and make it happen!
      I am supporting you all the way. And what a ride it is!
      Remember fellow backers, it's our gadget, it's their job and honour.
      So even though this last setback is annoying for us, it's a much bigger issue for the KickShark team!