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I'm still bitter about this project but glad to hear we'll get a copy of The Crater in the end.
Jup that announcement that will close off this case forever !!! DMP is gonna release a kickstarter to pubilsh Under the Air along with THE CRATER (in a few days) !!! With Tezuka productions they have made a deal to offer some kind of compensation for this mess if you have backed this project that's to say you still gonna have to show the support for the project. to get it.
Hey guys, some good news? Possibly!
Thanks for the link I want my book. How many years has it been since this all started ?
It is nice to know that they are still backing projects on KS. Seems that the AGENT: The World's Smartest Watch project was backed just this year. So that cool.
What is this guy's name, email, any pics or something like that? If we have any such pieces of info, I think all backers should go to facebook etc. to post about this guy, so that he's branded as a thief.
Messaged him on Facebook. He "saw" it. Scum.
Sadly to say it's true. One day Karma will get Andrew and he will forever regret doing this to all of us.
I have to agree with you james . I have a greater chance of wining the lottery then finally getting this book.
I can't care about this book anymore. I'd love to say I can't wait for DMP to do it. However the BS Andrew pulled on the campaign has made me bitter about the book. It's a lost cause and another story of a kickscammer that will go unnoticed by most except us 1,100 backers.
@Mary Danielson that doesn't have anything to do with it as a matter a fact DMP already spoiled to me that there next Tezuka kickstarter is gonna be the Crater but the last one from them that actually made it is now almost a full year ago ... not that next means soon they seem to be doing great with other KS that i don't care about so perhaps in a few months at best ...
Also in the West is a weird term considering especially France that has way more Tezuka you can't even read illegally in english on the internet ... a lot Americans think that the anime/manga industry revolves around America and Japan only which is pretty stupid but yeha i get you're point .... but long story short The Crater is gonna come out by DMP though a kickstarter but the weird thing is what are they gonna do with this 1100+ backers my guess is nothing ... since they need to make a profit on it ... and described it as license rescue and when i said the Crater they said don't tell anyone yet, but it has been weeks since and still nothing up... So i just came here to confirm you this news.
I am giving up on this project it has been how many years now ? sorry but this is likely to be my last post .
If you click the "Kansai Club Publishing link on this page, where it has the Facebook logo, it goes to Andrew's Facebook. So I guess he reactivated it! ...Not that that helps with much.
Well I was looking at my 'On This Day' on Facebook and saw I had linked to this Kickstarter shortly after it launched and got a little disappointed but figured I'd check in on you guys again. It's really too bad things turned out the way they did. I remained optimistic for a long time (longer than most of you - a year or so) but Andrew deleting his Facebook is just the disrespectful cherry on top.
The most unfortunate thing is that Tezuka Pro probably won't license this in the West ever again.
Andrew deleted his Facebook. He's officially off the grid. This is my last post on here. He got his money scammed us all and got away with it. Karma will get him one day.
@Xminus1 nope this can be considered a lost case ... Andrew has probably fergotten about it completly at this point ... What an amazing time to be an Tezuka fan these days (sarcasm) DMP manga cringe come on already ... On the manga side nothing is happen anywhere in the West !!! ... (Only postive thing is that Dororo anime and Belladona movie are coming out next month)
But i have already started to import many Japanese Tezuka manga (collectors editons) some of them have illigal scanlations on the internet, so thhat means i can follow what's going on ... Also a book called the Osamu Tezuka story is coming out in English late this year other than that it seems nothing ...
So any one still here and any new leads ?
@Blake H sadly not ... and getting it back through banks/card companies is way overdue ...
I was actually in a really serious argument with kickstarter some time ago i tried to be really casual and stuff but after some 5 messanges going back and forward they knew there was no way back !!!
I put them in a corner with a gun at point blank range and they just did not respond after that anymore ...
Is there any manner of legal action that can be taken at this point? Know Kickstarter isn't to be held responsible but it seems like they should be able to offer some manner of aid.
I sigh every time I think about this project... it was the 1st time I had backed something. Wish the book was here and glad it didn't stop me from backing other peoples dreams. What I learned from this rip off was to do more research before comminting money (no matter how small the amount.
It really is sad that it ended up this way. I'm not surprised he was throwing our money around. He clearly had no class or integrity.
No the piece of vermin fuck scum had parties with it and drank alot of Alcohol with it ... i saw it in a few of his video's when i was still friends with him on facebook ... he could have bought a car from it or paid part of his house off with it ... but i think a choose to take it easy for a while and blow his money on nothing but trash and not a penny must be left anymore ... i think he never printed anything when he saw he coudn't pull it off he bailed out ... like i said before from that money you can easilly print 1100 softcovers done by someone else the fuck didn't even need to do anything at the point ...
To long ago i have been here DMP had a survey up about the Crater since but seeing the Wonder 3 did not even make it (perhaps because of the bad timing halloween ... and they really wanted in hardcover ... but since they haven't done any Tezuka KS since storm fairy was the last on the made it in the summer ... only stupid yuri/porn manga kickstarters right now ...
@HanZ I think DMP has shown interest in publishing the book at some point here in the west. However who knows when. You should be more concerned that someone ran off with our money probably paid off student loans or had a bender. Who knows....
Too long ago claim a chargeback on my card according to my bank.
Thanks to anyone still here .....
It was a very beautiful idea for one of most amazing Osamu Tezuka's title, but there is no hope to see it go live by Kansai anymore.
Is it possible Crater will be on plan by another publisher for near future? I really love this serie and dream to see it in English with hardcover.
Thanks Fred. As always you are going above and beyond to get some accountability out of Andrew for being a flake and a scammer. However the funny thing is that if you click the Facebook link for Andrew it does not go to any page results... Looks like he's trying a disappearing act.
Sorry for being so silent on this. The holidays and personal drama have consumed a LOT of my time for the past month or so.
I'm going to make one last attempt to get the Florida AG involved in this mess. If they won't bite, I'm not quite sure what else to do. I think this time I'll send them a genuine, hardcopy letter with backing evidence, particularly in regards to the Washington State case. I'll also cite Larry Davis' article along with my all-too-brief local news appearance as well as Kickscammed.
This will, unfortunately, be my Hail Mary pass. Cross your fingers!
I know right. 3 years and still no responsibility taken by Andrew.
Thanks to any one still here , and happy new year . So how many years has it been since this all started ?
Thank you again to those still investigating options. Have a happy new year!
Just wanted to say thanks to you guys who are pursuing our legal options, and who are keeping me (and the others who check back in periodically) updated. Even if nothing comes of it, I really appreciate the effort.
Not a chance at this point...
I want my money back. Can we get our money back?
Sorry for being pretty silent for awhile. Other life stuff is getting in the way of pursuing this with the Florida AG. However, I do intend to follow-up with them in the next few days, but remember that I can't promise anything.
In the meantime, Larry Davis of DestroyAllChildren published a LENGTHY article about this whole debacle. It can be accessed here:
I'll let everyone know what the AG has to say.
Heard back from Rightstuf what an interesting email:
So I got word back about this. Apparently the creator did reach out to us about this project, but when we replied with a estimate he never responded. So as it stands, we have zero involvement with this Kickstarter.
I'm sorry to hear you guys are going through this unfortunate situation. I wish you the best of luck in getting it resolved.
~Anime-Zing Customer Happiness Guru
Digital Manga Press, who are behind a campaign to publish the sum of Tezuka's remaining works in English via Kickstarter, have posted a survey asking about backers of The Crater: https://twitter.com/digitalmanga/status/667160804513353728
I have no idea what will come of this but please respond as this would be a good way to show that we are still interested in the title!
Andrew did write in one of the updates:
We ended up being about three weeks behind schedule and will be sending our finalized digital copy of The Crater to Tezuka Productions for approval on Monday, September 2nd. The digital copy is currently complete and in the very capable hands of our experienced Copy Editor.
As mentioned previously, we are not quite sure how long it will take Tezuka Productions to approve our copy of The Crater. As soon as we get the okay, we will need about 5 weeks for all copies of the book to be printed, shipped to our distributor (Rightstuf), and sent out to everyone.
So was Rightstuf actually involved? They are a massive Manga, Anime sales site. If he did really set things up with Tezuka Productions then maybe one of us needs to contact them to see what's up. I found an email but it's only site related. To get any real information you have to call them but I can't find the number anywhere. If we called them I bet we could get more concrete information.
@Dani well the thing with that is ANN did confirm it with TezukaProductions that's probably the only real action that as taken along with have 2 tezuka experts writing an artice or what not .. we never saw any physical evidence of something being made or that weird story about all those animation cels ... What i do find weird is that TezukaPro didn't seek him out certainly they wouldn't take this ...
This little video pretty much describes Kickstarter in a nutshell
I doubt that would ever come out toe be anything. There's too many people from different countries it wouldn't really work. But I'd love to see someone give Andrew what he deserves.
Fortunately I did not lose much money at all, but this was most definitely a scam. Either that or the person in charge had drama in his/her life... but it almost certainly was a scam. If anyone has any info on the person responsible, please share. Maybe all 1105 backers can file a class action lawsuit against these scammers!
And really @Fred at this point the only expectation is to find out the truth. What went wrong? Why he would do this? What was his true intentions?
The true way anyone will get money is if the AG gets on on this or someone force's legal action in small claims court in Florida. Thank you for doing all this Fred. Glad to see there are people who won't give up.
Hey, tsundere1ftw, where's the lurve! ;)
I have a suspicion that this might actually put some pressure on the Florida AG to do something other than chucking the case into a unused broom closet. I intend to follow-up with them and WILL mention the WFTV segment.
Understand that the TV piece was probably not going to uncover anything new given KCP's black hole-like disappearance. It's the media attention that I was after. I also hope against hope that this raises the hackles of Kickstarter itself so that they'll better respond to backer complaints and institute some protectionist-oriented reforms.
Another thing about which I was happy was the exposure that Kickscammed got. I think that, beyond anything else, Kickscammed along with further legal action from various law enforcement entities will spur Kickstarter to some manner of reform so that they'll finally acknowledge that pledge theft is a real and festering plague that needs obliteration.
Anyway, while I still have serious doubts anyone will see a refund from all this, I see a glimmer of hope that, at the very least, we'll discover just what happened and to where Andrew Nevo fled.
Better than nothing tho, right??
Unfortunately that wasn't the conclusion we all hoped for :-( Very short segment and nothing new really
You'll never guess who I talked to today. It seems the local TV station who interviewed me on this campaign and Kickstarter in general is going to run! The story will air during the Action 9 segment sometime during the 5:30 EST news tomorrow. See www.wftv.com for details on how to access the segment.
I really, REALLY hope this brings us closer to getting some concrete answers as to what happened to this project and KCP. Fingers (and toes) crossed!
And that's the problem @Fred AccountAbility Kickstarter is so hands off it's sad.
The only projects I will even remotely considering backing anymore are from "known" entities, like Flesk Publications or the guys behind the Tome books. Unfortunately, these one hit losers have completely turned me off from supporting the very people for which KIckstarter was originally intended - the moms & pops that couldn't otherwise get traditional funding. In essence, they've ruined it for future, honest project creators.
I STILL don't understand Kickstarter's hands-off approach to everything. You'd think they'd want to do everything in their power to ensure that backers aren't taken advantage of, but they seem to revel in the casino-like environment their business model encourages. To me, it seems like insanity.