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@ Emily Gaston
Unfortunately so, yes. He has taken the money and disappeared. We don't know if the book even exists.
I just realized that I never received this book. I was going to double check the address I gave them but it looks like no one has received the book. Is this correct?!?
This is the project I've been stung the most on so far - $80. Never back a first-time creator on KS ever again! Nice to see Kickstarter don't care since they got their cut.
I've simply given up on seeing the money I put towards this Kickstarter ever again. Quite a shame. Caveat emptor, I guess. At least no one went for the $2,500 tier.
This guy needs to burn in some fashion.
Ya, I've come to figure out Kickstarter gives Zero F's after they get their % off the goal $$$
I think it rather telling that, when I asked Kickstarter for KCP's address for possible legal action, they completely ignored my request. Kickstarter really doesn't care if project creators follow-through with their stated "rewards", only that campaigns succeed so they can get their cut. It beggars belief how short-sighted such an attitude is in a long-term business context, but there it is.
I can't comment on international backers, but for US-based people, I would file a complaint with both your home state's AG and the Florida AG, no matter how small your individual loss might be.
@Kathy I am international too. Our hands are tied. I've contacted many ppl to try to get help in Canada. Really there's nothing we can do. I just wish Kickstarter would do something like Send a notice of non-fulfillment than ban him from kickstarter. This is the ONLY kickstarter I've ever had issues with. He was out to scam and he got what he wanted money.
My patience is gone. There should be some recourse we can take..
Re calling the telephone number, the phone number has been called in the past, perhaps with some results at first. It seems to be for a landline phone at his parents' house. Please keep in mind that his parents are not responsible for their adult son taking a phone call or returning a phone call, much less publishing a book, and one of them might be the one to hear a message or take a call. Below are a few links to comments re phone calls.
Thanks, Stephen, for the contact number and link. I've forwarded it to an "interested party". I still can't go into detail yet, but hope to disclose what's happening in the next two or three weeks. While it's pretty doubtful anyone will receive any refunds, wheels are turning to expose KCP for the crooks they seem to be.
So, any news about this? I see that apparently the Kansai Club will not deliver...I am international backer, can I do something to help? I want my book or my money back.
The number, (954) 385-5727, is listed on the BBB page for Kansai Club - http://www.bbb.org/south-east-florida/business-reviews/publishing-consultants/kansai-club-publishing-in-weston-fl-90095557
I haven't called it yet, as I'd rather do so from a phone where I don't care if he gets the number or not. I would call from work, but I work nights and if the number is inaccurate I don't want to wake up some poor old lady or something. I will on Saturday during the day, if nobody else has confirmed it works by then.
Keep fighting the good fight Fred!!! And keep up with the updates!
@Fred Thank you for all you're doing! I'm eager to hear more...
Stephan, can you email me the contact number you have? My address is Eff Ell Eee Gee Gee Eee Tee Tee AT gate.Enn Eee Tee Thanks.
I checked in on this again today and also noticed the Kansai Club website is gone. I think I'll be giving his number a call tomorrow to see if I can get anybody to give me some answers. If not, I fully support any sort of litigation that might be brewing.
Thank you for everything your doing Fred. I noticed he did as well Dustin. Yup the site is down. Trying to distance himself...
Something interesting is happening. I can't go into details (yet), but this issue is far from over.
Hey, look at that, folks! Andrew logged in yesterday, and look at that! Kansai Club is no longer a website. Enjoy the 50K, scumbag.
Still haven't heard anything. If no one contacts me in the next few days, I'll go ahead and file a report with the Florida AG. I'll also see if another affiliate is interested.
Man, I hope this gets cleared up. It's a real shame we won't get our book and with a refund, that'd just have been that. But because he took the money and ran, and kickstarter appear not to care, it's gonna give them a bad name and make some people think twice about backing they really wanted in case this happens again...
This is ridiculous.
@ Fred Leggett
Let us know how it goes with the AG. I would do something myself by not being anywhere near Florida means any effort would be worth more than what I lost. I saw an article about how the Washing State AG filed a lawsuit against a kickstarter that mage about half as much, so that seems like the best avenue.
Hey man it does not mean many others had the same issue in Florida. I just can't believe out of the 1000+ backers only a few of us are really trying to do something about Andrew's evil deed.
So far, no bites. I'll give it another week before moving on. If no one decides to run with this, then I'll probably file a report with the AG. They might laugh it off since I can only report a $52 loss, but it's worth a try.
@Ricardo Javier Peña
We only have Andrew's empty promises that the book actually exists. Despite constant requests over the past year and a half, there isn't a single piece of photographic evidence this book was even translated.
I hadn't checked this project, I'm not one of those people that check kickstarter a lot.. Anyway I received an e-mail from the Captain ken kickstarter page and decided to check the progress of other kickstarters I had contributed on... Then I saw this, heck, I didn't even remember I had contributed to this!
Anyway, by reading posts and stuff it looks like we lost our money?
I can't believe Andrew doesn't answer, doesn't change his facebook, or deletes his site..
I do believe he had the intention to do this, judging by his last update the books were already made, but he lacked the money to send them? I really wouldn't mind giving an extra $5 so he can finally send the book...
Or did I misread? Did he ever show us the book in question?
Thanks for what you're doing, Fred. Hopefully something can come from this.
AstroBBoy, that's true, but I didn't want to make the local news affiliate think this was an "international incident", as that might scare them off versus if it was more of a localized bit of criminality. If/when I make contact with whoever runs with this, I'll make sure to report that this actually went beyond U.S. borders.
@Fred - its 1,105 backers across the world (not just the U.S.) that were defrauded
I also just filed a report with Kickstarter requesting that they release any contact info they have on KCP and/or Andrew Nevo for the purpose of pursuing legal action. It will be interesting to see their response (if any).
Many thanks Fred. You're a good man. I hope we can shame Andrew out of his hole and get some form of closure. Such a shame we're not getting this book; I was really looking forward to it.
Wicked Fred. Thank you so much. Sounds perfect!
Ya Dustin. He really needs to man up. Better to tell it how it went down or what's up then be a worm hiding in the dirt.
I've filed an Action 9 report with our local ABC affiliate (WFTV). Here is what I wrote in the comments section:
Mr. Nevo solicited a Japanese translated book via Kickstarter. The Kickstarter campaign was a success, raising $52,861, but Mr. Nevo has, by all appearances, absconded with all funds without producing the book.
1,105 backers across the U.S. were defrauded. The campaign page with a lengthy discussion of what occurred (and what didn't) can be found here (minus quotes): "https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kansaiclub/limited-edition-translation-of-osamu-tezukas-the-c".
A filing with the Florida AG is seriously being considered.
I would welcome any contact with WFTV staff to discuss this in detail. Thank you for reading.
I'm going to wait a week or two before moving on to another affiliate. If WFTV doesn't bite, there are two or three other news outlets that might be interested.
Andrew, own up you child. You can't just piss away $52,000 and expect everyone to just say "oops." Do something about it. Stop hiding. Your information is everywhere and we're not going anywhere.
No, it's because Andrew did see it! That little worm! He logged in on January the 22nd. What a piece of shit.
It was deleted by kickstarter. They said it was "abusive content", and i wasn't in compliance with community guidelines. Whatever! I wouldn't read into it -- I highly doubt Nevo saw it and got upset. Maybe one of the backers thought I crossed a line. Maybe I did! Don't really get it. Anyone who googles "Kansai Club" and "Better Business Bureau" will see the BBB page with the phone number. Anyone who calls it (and gets an answer) will be able to tell it's family on the other end. Oh well.
Looks like Jeff's message was deleted. Was that the one with the phone number in it? So does that mean somebody who owes us a product is still keeping tabs on this?
@Fred so it up man. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Okay, I'll see if anyone wants to run with this. The local news are always on the hunt for the latest and greatest scandal and this certainly qualifies. I'll let everyone know what they say.
@ Fred a local news piece would be amazing! Someone needs to confront Andrew about this and a local piece would do wonders.
I just got an update on a kickstater project that's been two years in development. Still getting updates saying got sick, work, etc. That's an honest person. Not like this Andrew dude.
@Laudanum - all projects do have a disclosure above the rewards stating they can't guarantee fulfillment.
Ultimately, if too many projects don't pan out, people will stop contributing. Kickstarter has always been caveat emptor. Personally, I now make sure to listen to my gut. Had I done that for this project, I wouldn't be here right now :/
@Fred Leggett do it !!! anything that could help would be great at this point if his name get´s known he might be seen as a scumbag to everyone at the very least and we might even get a good result out of it.
Y'know, I could try to see if our local TV news affiliate would like to run a piece on this. Crowdfunding is getting more and more mainstream and this looks like something an enterprising young journalist wanting to impress his boss might run with. What does everyone think?
Hmmm I guess I've been scammed out of my money :(
I don't know if I can do anything since I'm in Australia. Guess I'll have to thoroughly research the creator of the kickstarter from now on!
As much as it pains me to say, this project is dead and we're not getting our money back. Andrew is a dishonest coward and I don't believe this project even left the drawing board.
Kickstarter HAS to start making people more aware about the risks of backing projects. Whether it is a disclosure on the home page, or a warning everytime you pledge. It HAS to happen or Kickstarter will become a thieves den.
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Well, I could go ahead and file a complaint with the Florida AG. I never got any feedback from my request in here, so I'd be going it alone for a whopping $52. I'm not sure our AG would take such a filing seriously.
Kickstarter really is the perfect vehicle to scam people out of serious money, but the crime is so nationalized and no one person is out a large amount of money that it makes it exceedingly difficult to pursue deadbeat PCs via legal channels. It reminds me of movies where the crooks steal pennies from hundreds of thousands of bank accounts and make a killing, but the crime itself is largely overlooked.
It's a shame that Andrew has tanked KCP's reputation and has sullied the chances of anyone else bringing manga over from Japan who isn't already an established name, like Viz or DMP. Campaigns like this kill interest in the whole crowdfunding model and makes it extremely difficult for anyone coming after to achieve their funding goals. It's a disgrace.
Any update regarding plans from anyone ? ... if i where in the U.S i would already have done everything i could but doing anything here wouldn't do much ...