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@Des - yeah finally after 4 years, more money and another company picking up and doing right by us we finally got the book. Four months late, but still it's here, and other than the hardback, included pretty much everything that he promised, even the commentary which was nice.
Glad this ordeal is done and dusted now.
Finally got my copy of The Crater. Now I can put this terrible experience to rest.
@Dustin Rauch i second that but then i hope you have 2 copies of it xd one to KILL Nevo with and another to keep yourself xd.
A Crater finally took Nevo would be a fitting end or he could be kicked into a crater never be able to climb up with his 52 grand that will be useless in hell but he undoubtedly already spend it like i saw in his facebook video's ...
Hope he already chocked in his alcohol he bought from the mopney !!!
Can't wait to get my DigitalManga copy of the crater to shove down Andrew's throat.
Yes Colton you beat me to it ... but a forward by Frederik l schodt and essay Ada Palmer in DMP's The Crater makes it at lest a little more like what the Kansai edition would have been !!! still wondering if it's the same material that was already made all the way back in 2013 cause it kind would seem so.
Actually if you really think about it what more would the Kansai edition had to offer now other then the fact that it would have been hardcover ?
I know some for some reason some bibliophiles where attracted to this book cause they made it look like this amazing thing but i'm staring to wonder about that ... would could you possibly have done to make it stand out that much anyway ? ...
Digitalmanga seems to be fulfilling additions this book was going to do in their own book:
"We have also included in The Crater, a forward by Frederik Schodt and an essay by Ada Palmer also!"
Can't wait for my copy to arrive.
I have not forgotten but see no point in posting . Life is getting in the way right now for me.
It seems people have finally given up on even commenting here ... in a way i would kida miss it xd but it makes sense the situation still kind of got an happy ending well for the ones that where smart enough to pledge for DMP's project anyway ...
There was nothing anyone really could have done Fred was the only one that ever came close and even he had to give up ...
Andrew Nevo is my fuck boi ...
greatest kickstarter project of all time
Still surprises me how many pepole that backed this did not back the DMP kickstarter i mean after 3+ years of this nonsene you would think just pay a little more and finally get the damn thing already !!!
This thing is more then dead ... Tezuka productions is in more way affiliated with this anymore probably when they heard of DMP's offer they gave up on tracking this mafioso Anrew Nevo down.
It even be kinda funny now if we even get some complaint from some backer here that didn't back the DMP project but then again woudn't surprise me if we would since this one got so many backers and some of them might not even know about DMP's kickstarters.
But i have no idea how Andrew without a track record got so many backers ... if this whole thing was fake from the start he must have laughed his ass off especially when he raised the shipping he might have hoped that nobody walked away from it and all 1350 backers at the time where just gonna pay up ...
Still it's unforgivable that Kickstarter and Amazon just took the money and didn't give a damn ...
My regards go out to Fred Leggett who almost came to some resolution but the court simply didn't care enough or didn't even really get it ...
And apparently Fred only backed this cause he was a Bibliophilia (that kinda new about manga from long ago) and was only interested how limited the book was and the look off it to kinda shown it off ... So i''m sure he didn't fund the DMP project kinda sad that he will never get it now ...
Welp, glad to see at least through Digital Manga that I'll finally be getting The Crater (and all the other Tezuka books Kickstarted in said Kickstarter). They've never once failed me before.
Not sure if many are reading this here, since this project is now well and truly dead, but the Crater and others WILL see print as part of DMP's Kickstarter. We're only about $7,500 away from making sure Under the Air, The Crater, Iron Melody AND Glass Castle get into our hot little hands. So if you've been on the fence, this is your chance to jump in with both feet. Only Melody of Iron is still a stretch goal, the other three are already assured. But it's a no-risk stretch... if it doesn't make it, you get refunded for that portion. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalmanga/re-launch-of-tezukas-under-the-air-classic-manga/description
Hope all of you are well! I was curious about said discount on the Crater that DMP offered and asked, it's factored into the price
This is indirectly the most I've spent on a Tezuka book but fuck, I am glad to finally be getting my hands on this and some others in the process
Additionally, you should all go check out Dash Shaw's Cosplayers, there are so many wonderful Tezuka references that I imagine most of y'all would get a kick out of
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalmanga/re-launch-of-tezukas-under-the-air-classic-manga/description here is the new link go get The Crater and more.
I sent Andrew a Direct Message on facebook stating someone else is kickstarting The Creater and reminded him he is scum. You should all do the same. Remind him of what he did to us.
There was a technical issue, so they had to relaunch the campaign. It'll be back tomorrow at 11AM Pacific.
Jup Colton already beat me to it but here is the link you can copy : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalmanga/publishing-osamu-tezukas-under-the-air-classic-man/comments
go make it happen i don't even wanna hear any complaints about this project after this cause this is the way to make it happen like it or not !!! this thing is never gonna go anywhere it's now or never !!! DMP is a real legit company so i hope everyone here is willing to pay those $22 for it or be silenced forever.
Well, for those who still want The Crater, it's an add on in Digital Manga's Under the Air Kickstarter for $22 for a print copy. Unlike Kansai Club, Digital Manga's always delivered on their Kickstarters when I supported them the four prior times.
I'm just glad I can finally get a copy of the book.
I'm still bitter about this project but glad to hear we'll get a copy of The Crater in the end.
Jup that announcement that will close off this case forever !!! DMP is gonna release a kickstarter to pubilsh Under the Air along with THE CRATER (in a few days) !!! With Tezuka productions they have made a deal to offer some kind of compensation for this mess if you have backed this project that's to say you still gonna have to show the support for the project. to get it.
Hey guys, some good news? Possibly!
Thanks for the link I want my book. How many years has it been since this all started ?
It is nice to know that they are still backing projects on KS. Seems that the AGENT: The World's Smartest Watch project was backed just this year. So that cool.
What is this guy's name, email, any pics or something like that? If we have any such pieces of info, I think all backers should go to facebook etc. to post about this guy, so that he's branded as a thief.
Messaged him on Facebook. He "saw" it. Scum.
Sadly to say it's true. One day Karma will get Andrew and he will forever regret doing this to all of us.
I have to agree with you james . I have a greater chance of wining the lottery then finally getting this book.
I can't care about this book anymore. I'd love to say I can't wait for DMP to do it. However the BS Andrew pulled on the campaign has made me bitter about the book. It's a lost cause and another story of a kickscammer that will go unnoticed by most except us 1,100 backers.
@Mary Danielson that doesn't have anything to do with it as a matter a fact DMP already spoiled to me that there next Tezuka kickstarter is gonna be the Crater but the last one from them that actually made it is now almost a full year ago ... not that next means soon they seem to be doing great with other KS that i don't care about so perhaps in a few months at best ...
Also in the West is a weird term considering especially France that has way more Tezuka you can't even read illegally in english on the internet ... a lot Americans think that the anime/manga industry revolves around America and Japan only which is pretty stupid but yeha i get you're point .... but long story short The Crater is gonna come out by DMP though a kickstarter but the weird thing is what are they gonna do with this 1100+ backers my guess is nothing ... since they need to make a profit on it ... and described it as license rescue and when i said the Crater they said don't tell anyone yet, but it has been weeks since and still nothing up... So i just came here to confirm you this news.
I am giving up on this project it has been how many years now ? sorry but this is likely to be my last post .
If you click the "Kansai Club Publishing link on this page, where it has the Facebook logo, it goes to Andrew's Facebook. So I guess he reactivated it! ...Not that that helps with much.
Well I was looking at my 'On This Day' on Facebook and saw I had linked to this Kickstarter shortly after it launched and got a little disappointed but figured I'd check in on you guys again. It's really too bad things turned out the way they did. I remained optimistic for a long time (longer than most of you - a year or so) but Andrew deleting his Facebook is just the disrespectful cherry on top.
The most unfortunate thing is that Tezuka Pro probably won't license this in the West ever again.
Andrew deleted his Facebook. He's officially off the grid. This is my last post on here. He got his money scammed us all and got away with it. Karma will get him one day.
@Xminus1 nope this can be considered a lost case ... Andrew has probably fergotten about it completly at this point ... What an amazing time to be an Tezuka fan these days (sarcasm) DMP manga cringe come on already ... On the manga side nothing is happen anywhere in the West !!! ... (Only postive thing is that Dororo anime and Belladona movie are coming out next month)
But i have already started to import many Japanese Tezuka manga (collectors editons) some of them have illigal scanlations on the internet, so thhat means i can follow what's going on ... Also a book called the Osamu Tezuka story is coming out in English late this year other than that it seems nothing ...
So any one still here and any new leads ?
@Blake H sadly not ... and getting it back through banks/card companies is way overdue ...
I was actually in a really serious argument with kickstarter some time ago i tried to be really casual and stuff but after some 5 messanges going back and forward they knew there was no way back !!!
I put them in a corner with a gun at point blank range and they just did not respond after that anymore ...
Is there any manner of legal action that can be taken at this point? Know Kickstarter isn't to be held responsible but it seems like they should be able to offer some manner of aid.
I sigh every time I think about this project... it was the 1st time I had backed something. Wish the book was here and glad it didn't stop me from backing other peoples dreams. What I learned from this rip off was to do more research before comminting money (no matter how small the amount.
It really is sad that it ended up this way. I'm not surprised he was throwing our money around. He clearly had no class or integrity.
No the piece of vermin fuck scum had parties with it and drank alot of Alcohol with it ... i saw it in a few of his video's when i was still friends with him on facebook ... he could have bought a car from it or paid part of his house off with it ... but i think a choose to take it easy for a while and blow his money on nothing but trash and not a penny must be left anymore ... i think he never printed anything when he saw he coudn't pull it off he bailed out ... like i said before from that money you can easilly print 1100 softcovers done by someone else the fuck didn't even need to do anything at the point ...
To long ago i have been here DMP had a survey up about the Crater since but seeing the Wonder 3 did not even make it (perhaps because of the bad timing halloween ... and they really wanted in hardcover ... but since they haven't done any Tezuka KS since storm fairy was the last on the made it in the summer ... only stupid yuri/porn manga kickstarters right now ...
@HanZ I think DMP has shown interest in publishing the book at some point here in the west. However who knows when. You should be more concerned that someone ran off with our money probably paid off student loans or had a bender. Who knows....
Too long ago claim a chargeback on my card according to my bank.
Thanks to anyone still here .....
It was a very beautiful idea for one of most amazing Osamu Tezuka's title, but there is no hope to see it go live by Kansai anymore.
Is it possible Crater will be on plan by another publisher for near future? I really love this serie and dream to see it in English with hardcover.
Thanks Fred. As always you are going above and beyond to get some accountability out of Andrew for being a flake and a scammer. However the funny thing is that if you click the Facebook link for Andrew it does not go to any page results... Looks like he's trying a disappearing act.
Sorry for being so silent on this. The holidays and personal drama have consumed a LOT of my time for the past month or so.
I'm going to make one last attempt to get the Florida AG involved in this mess. If they won't bite, I'm not quite sure what else to do. I think this time I'll send them a genuine, hardcopy letter with backing evidence, particularly in regards to the Washington State case. I'll also cite Larry Davis' article along with my all-too-brief local news appearance as well as Kickscammed.
This will, unfortunately, be my Hail Mary pass. Cross your fingers!
I know right. 3 years and still no responsibility taken by Andrew.
Thanks to any one still here , and happy new year . So how many years has it been since this all started ?