About this project
When we began to work on the new Thylacine™ line, we considered every element that defines a great sleeping bag – silky soft lightweight fabrics, advanced insulation technologies, body-mapped patterning, 3D construction, durable hardware, snag free zippers, and beautifully functional form. We pushed through boundaries set by the “status quo” and kept challenging ourselves to create the best, most innovative sleeping bag possible. After years of iterations, the result was something revolutionary - a redefinition of what a sleeping bag should be.
The predominate theme for designing the Thylacine™ is extremely simple: Give Power to the People! Our goal is to give you the most functionality & versatility in one sleeping bag system. Period. You get to choose the best customized sleeping bag set up for every adventure. Our mission is to design products for your life-changing adventures, and we know your adventures are always changing!
The Thylacine™ adapts to your specific needs, and delivers endless options to unleash your creativity as you interact with the natural world. The Thylacine can become any bag you need it to be due to its patent-pending Variable Warmth Technology™ (interchangeable baffle system) and Customfit™ size adjustments.
Variable Warmth Technology™ delivers complete customization through a system of changeable insulated baffles. The baffles can be filled with synthetic, down, or a hybrid of both types of insulation. Although baffles are common in most sleeping bags, the ability to remove and change the baffles is an entirely new concept specifically designed to meet the needs of every adventure.
The Thylacine uses a patent-pending locking feature that keeps the baffles properly positioned inside the baffle chamber to prevent cold spots. The baffles are created using an ultralight downproof fabric that is quilted in order to minimize the migration of insulation. By simply removing or adding baffles to the baffle chambers, you can create the customized temperature rating you need for whatever adventure awaits you.
"Our first night in Patagonia was spent in the valley of El Chalten where the temperature reached a low of around 40°F. One layer of synthetic baffles created a 40°F bag and kept us warm. However, a 25°F bag would have been uncomfortably hot! The second night we made camp near the glacier where the cold wind came down off glacier. The lowest temperature that night was around 20°F - and it was sleeting/windy. By simply adding a second layer of baffles in each chamber, we created a 25°F bag. Another layer of synthetic baffles would bring the rating to 0°F. In owning the Thylacine bag with three layers of baffles, you actually have 4 complete sleeping bags in one!" - Greg McEvilly
PrimaLoft® Gold Synthetic is the highest performing insulation on the market for warmth, water resistance, softness and compressibility. PrimaLoft® Gold is an ultra-fine microfiber insulation that is as soft, lightweight, and warmer, wet or dry, than all other insulations. Ultra-fine fibers form tiny air pockets to trap body heat and keep the cold out. The result is immediate warmth without the bulk. PrimaLoft® Gold microfibers are engineered for permanent water resistance and create tight surface tension that resists moisture penetration, resulting in an insulation that dries faster than goose down. Ultra-fine fibers mimic the compressibility of goose down and are breathable, allowing moisture to be transported through the fibers and away from the skin.
PrimaLoft® Down Blend is the ultimate combination of PrimaLoft® ultra-fine fibers and water repellent goose down, offering high-performance warmth and comfort in variable conditions while adhering to the PrimaLoft® promise of an environmentally safe technology free of fluorocarbons.
PrimaLoft® Down Blend Gold is a unique blend of premium quality environmentally friendly water resistant 750 fill power grey goose down with PrimaLoft® ultra-fine denier fibers. Our hybrid insulated baffles feature a homogeneous blend of 30% PrimaLoft® ultra-fine fibers, and 70% of 750 fill power water resistant goose down. This combines the benefits of both worlds - offering the absolute best of Down & Synthetic in one fill type.
These width adjustments allows the you to modify the size of the bag as needed. The footbed adjustment allows the bag length to be resized 3" - 5" inches so that your feet are all the way down in the bag. Five body width adjustments allow you to customize the width of the bag at several critical points: chest, hips, thighs, knees and ankles. This allows for less dead space and increases thermal efficiency and comfort for the user.
Atmos™ is a 10D nylon ripstop made from high tenacity yarns offering unprecedented durability with thermal reflective properties.
One of the biggest challenges in creating an adaptable sleeping bag is managing the overall weight of the bag due to the necessary use of additional fabrics for encasing interchangeable baffles. To achieve a lightweight design, we had to look at making a new ultralight fabric with integrated thermal retention technology.
This problem forced us to think differently about fabric – the Thylacine “shell” and “liner” fabric needed to be multifunctional and offer greater thermal retention value than traditional ultralight fabrics. Increasing the thermal retention value of the fabric allows the use of less insulating “fill” in the interchangeable baffles – driving down total weight in a radical way.
Atmos™ is incredibly soft against the skin, and is used as the “liner” fabric for the Thylacine Ultralight™ and Thylacine Expedition™ bags. Atmos+™ DWR is treated with a Durable Water Repellent finish, and is used as the Ultralight bag shell fabric.
The newest textile development in Kammok’s amphibious class is DART™ – which stands for Dry Advanced Respiration Technology. DART™ fabric is used for the Expedition bag shell & offers some of the most waterproof & breathable advancements on the market. DART™ is powered by eVent® - a patented waterproof membrane that allows vapor to vent from inside the bag while keeping wind and water out.
eVent® fabrics get their unique properties from a proprietary and patented waterproof membrane. Its unique composition allows millions of tiny pores to breathe at their full potential. Most common waterproof/breathable membranes do not literally “breathe.” Instead, they move sweat in two slow steps by a process of diffusion through a Polyurethane (PU) layer. Because a PU absorbs and retains sweat, the inside of the fabric becomes wet. Body heat begins to push the dampness through to the outside of the fabric where it can finally evaporate–a very inefficient process. eVent is the most advanced breathable & waterproof membrane available today!
The Thylacine Ultralight™ and Expedition™ shells are uninsulated (when baffles are removed) sleeping bags, similar to a liner, but with all the features of a sleeping bag. With the baffles removed, the Ultralight can be a summer degree bag, and the Expedition “X” shell can be an uninsulated waterproof bivy - both can be reconfigured as needed.
Super Ultralight sleeping bag shell that compresses into a softball sized stuff sack (uninsulated). The Thylacine UL™ sleeping bag shell features Kammok’s proprietary Atmos+™ fabric with heat reflective technology and a DWR finish. The UL liner is made of Atmos™ - giving a silky soft feel. The Thylacine UL also features a waterproof footbox.
The Thylacine X™ is a waterproof bivy/sleeping bag featuring Kammok’s DART™ Technology. DART™ (Dry Advanced Respiration Technology) is an eVent based fabric is that is Waterproof, Windproof, and highly Breathable. The Thylacine X will be fully seam sealed for ultimate waterproofness and also features Atmos™ fabric for the liner.
Unlike traditional sleeping bags, the Thylacine Sleeping Bag System also allows you to easily wash and maintain your bag. Typically, when a sleeping bag needs to be washed, it is because the shell and liner are dirty, not the inner insulation. Thanks to Thylacine’s removable baffles, the sleeping bag shell and the baffles can be washed and treated separately. This allows you to properly clean dirt and body oils from the shell and liner without compromising the insulating properties of the baffles.
The Thylacine line will undergo multiple certified lab tests which will evaluate the thermal performance of the sleeping bag according to EN 13537 requirements for Sleeping Bags (CEN, 2012). Specifically, the Thylacine will be tested to determine the measured insulation values and the temperature limits that will determine the temperature comfort range.
We will work diligently to achieve these temperature ratings, and share the testing results in Project Status Updates.
The Thylacine Sleeping Bag System allows for future customizations including internal head pillows, internal sleeping pads, and many other advancements in future insulation - further example of how and why this is the only sleeping bag system you will ever need to own!
The best trail rated quilt ever produced, the Firebelly™ fuses luxurious comfort & technical back country functionality. Designed specifically for hammock users and the ultra-minimalist backpacker, the Firebelly™ places all insulation on the sides & top of you and omits the bottom insulation (bottom insulation is often unusable when compressed in a hammock or when a sleeping pad is used). The Firebelly™ will be rated at ± 30°F, keeping you incredibly warm at a 'feather-light' weight.
The Firebelly™ can be used as a traditional bed quilt when unbuttoned, or you can choose to secure the 5 button snaps and draw cord at the foot area to create a cosy warm foot box. When not in use on the trail, the Firebelly may be replacing Granny’s old quilt on your couch!
The Firebelly™ is now available on the right for $125 (WILL RETAIL FOR $250.00 = $125 IN PRE-MARKET SAVINGS!)
Risks and challenges
All of the video/pictures you see of the Thylacine™ are of a working prototype. We need the Kickstarter community help to bring this product to completion. We will be using all of the funds raised for things like: tooling cost, covering minimum order quantities of all our custom parts/fabric (which is everything...no off the rack components go into the Thylacine), etc. If we achieve additional funding, we have some exciting stretch goals to share!
Similar to our past project, we have put a lot of work, time, and thought into each aspect of what it will take to successfully complete this project. Our biggest challenge will be meeting our shipping delivery dates if the project is extremely over funded. Taking a product from a prototype into mass production will always surface new challenges that have to be addressed.
We intend to under-promise and over-deliver. We have set June as our “ship date”. We have worked hard to minimize foreseeable risks, as we have set the foundation for this product over the past two years. Since this will be the first production run, we may have to change some things and will let everyone know about any changes via project updates. We have experience with large-scale manufacturing and have established solid relationships with our manufacturing partners to minimize our risks and to help deliver the best rewards possible for backers.
Everything is in place, and with the necessary funding we will be able to deliver.Learn about accountability on Kickstarter
We have all the information you need in one place including images, our Press Release and video embed codes here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2aobpsfvfpdxyvc/_sHVz22m6G If you would like to request and interview please email email@example.com
Here is the direct link to our Press Release:
We have been getting requests to order multiple rewards. Kickstarter only allows project creators to create pledge packages that don’t have multiple sets, ie we can’t do a two-pack, five-pack etc. If you want to order more than one pack, here is how to do it:
We recommend that you choose one reward, and then if you want two (2) of the same reward double the pledge amount (if you want three (3) then triple the amount of the pledge, etc). We will not be able to deduct shipping from ordering multiples (sorry...we just won’t, but you are still getting a killer deal by ordering multiples).
After the campaign you will be able to login to our “post campaign” and use your “credits” to get a second or third reward. If you ‘over pledge’, you will also have credits to use toward ordering additional baffle sets or other perks offered later.
Well, the beauty of the Thylacine, you can’t really go wrong. The most value would be in the 2 & 3 layer bags, because you are actually getting 3 - 4 full bags in ONE SYSTEM. But if you get a one layer option, get the type you need most based on what you plan on doing first. Camping in warm temperatures, get the 30 degree down or 40 degree synthetic. Colder, start with a 15 or 0 degree bag. You can always change it later by ordering more baffles post campaign.
The Expedition bag is waterproof and would be good for mountaineering or sleeping uncovered from the elements. The Expedition is also a waterproof bivy and other sleeping bags can be used with it, or you can add the removable baffles to make it a bivy/sleeping bag hybrid.
The Ultralight version will be slightly lighter and more compressible. The Ultralight is traditionally a more popular option due to normal sleeping bag use and a lower price.
The good thing is, you can always order just the "shell" later and use all the same baffles for each bag!
The Kammok "Collective" is a group of people we love and have been key storytellers for our tribe: The MOB. We are grateful for the way they inspire us and we hope their stories inspire you! Check out their websites/links/profiles to learn more and to build community:
Josh Abbott- http://www.joshabbottband.com
Evan Baehr: http://www.evanbaehr.com
Dave Blanchard http://praxislabs.org
Chris Bourke: http://bourkeproductions.com
The Combs http:// http://www.thewhistlerandthewell.com
Jacob Combs- http://instagram.com/jctimothy
Tiffiny Costello: http://www.tiffinyepiphany.com
Daniel Davis- http://danieldavisphoto.com
Sean Ellis http://instagram.com/seancellis
Lori Fox http://instagram.com/foxlor
Alex Garcia http://instagram.com/aleclimberhttp
Josh Garza: http://instagram.com/joshrgarza
David Gunther: www.The-Apex-Group.com
Jon Hart http://about.me/jonathan_hart
Esther Havens- http://www.estherhaven.com
Grant Hickman http://instagram.com/jghickman
Aaron Ivey- http://aaronivey.com
Jordan Bellamy http://www.jor.by
Josh Kwan: http://praxislabs.org
Krochet Kids http://www.krochetkids.org
The Loerke’s http://www.todaysletters.com
Evan Loomis: http://praxislabs.org
Austin Mann: https://www.austinmann.com
Sean Mathis- http://www.factorfoto.com
Randy McBrayer www.linkedin.com/pub/randy-mcbrayer/a/aa4/b91
Carson Nyquist: www.MotifWeddings.com
Will O’Neil https://www.cobs.org
Brad Otts: http://instagram.com/bradotts
Bryan Pape http://www.miir.com
Portsmith Co. http://portsmithco.com
Kate Renz: http://www.katerentz.com
Steve Rokks: www.steverokks.com
Kris Rutherford http://www.krisfilm.com
Mitch Smith http://instagram.com/pxls2prnt
James Stice: http://www.kaluyala.com
Lamar Stockton http://www.lamarstockton.com
Megan Suszynski - www.ethnotekbags.com
Zane Wilemon- http://www.ctcinternational.org
Scott Wade http://www.scottwade.com
Absolutely! You can even buy down baffles, and create a hybrid bag.
People are not exactly the same length. So, traditionally you might only have 3 choices in sizes; short, regular and long. The problem is what happens if you are 5’ 9” in a 6’ bag? Your head has to go in one spot and you feet set 3 or 4 inches from the end of the bag. That void creates dead space, which in cooler temperatures, means colder feet. By adjusting the length of the bag, your feet sit at the end of the bag reducing dead space, and warming up those feet.
Different people are shaped differently. The Thylacine allows you to make minor adjustment to the width of the bag. Some people might have wider waist, or, might like a snugger fit along the legs. Plus, the tighter the bag around you, the less dead air you have to heat up, thus keeping you warmer.
The baffles can be compressed and stored in a smaller compression sack (comes with rewards). Actual pack size and volume will be given in project updates.
YES - its just how we do business
Yes, it still gives you about a 60 degrees temperature rating, with all the features of the Thylacine still intact. It’s the perfect summertime bag ( winter, spring and fall too) because you can stuff it again and use it when it gets cooler.
We want to thank Lunatik, Osprey Packs, Klymit, and Krochet Kids for their friendship and for sponsoring our #Patagiveback vision trip. Check out our adventures here: http://www.mylanderpages.com/kammok/patagonia
Kickstarter does not allow for "multiple pledges" - BUT, you can Overpledge for additional rewards. If you "over pledge" then you will be able to select additional rewards after the Kickstarter campaign is over.
If you want to order the Firebelly™ and a Thylacine (UL > Synthetic Fill > 40°F rating) sleeping bag, then the total would be $325.00 for both. You can select either reward on Kickstarter, and "over pledge" for the full $325.00 amount. After Kickstarter you will be able to select other rewards for the amount you over pledge. This is also where you will select other options like color, size, etc.
The Firebelly™ is a technical "Trail Quilt" offering all the comforts of a home down comforter - at an incredible light weight.
Color: It is offered in our Dark Gray & Roo Red color
How do I add it?:
If you already pledged for a Thylacine, then you can adjust your pledge and "over pledge" for the Firebelly™. You would just need to add $125.00 to your pledge.
We haven't finalized retail pricing, but we anticipate that the Firebelly™ will be sold for $250.00 when it hits the market.
The best trail rated quilt ever produced, the Firebelly line fuses luxurious comfort & technical back country functionality. Designed specifically for hammock users and the ultra-minimalist backpacker, the Firebelly™ places all insulation on the sides & top of you and omits the bottom insulation (bottom insulation is often unusable when compressed in a hammock or a sleeping bad is used).
The Firebelly can be used as a traditional bed quilt when unbuttoned, or you can choose to secure the 5 button snaps and draw cord at the foot area to create a cosy warm foot box. When not in use on the trail, the Firebelly may be replacing granny’s old quilt on the couch!
Firebelly™ TQ specifications:
Weight: ≈ 20oz
Warmth Rating: ± 30°F
Dimensions: 80” x 55”
Atmos+™ DWR - 10D DWR Nylon ripstop with heat reflection properties
PrimaLoft® 750 Water Resistant Goose Down Blend
Dual center draw cord cinch (head & feet areas)
5 button snaps on footbox and 2 at shoulders/collar
Sleeping pad attachments
Comfort Draft Bumper (around perimeter - can be tucked in for additional draft protection)
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