Use this space to cheer the creator along, ask questions, and talk to your fellow backers. Please remember to be respectful and considerate. Thanks!
@Michael, you shouldn't encourage bad behavior. Jon has done nothing but lie and ignore his supporters for over a year. read back to mine and other comments. Go to the game forum conifergames.com. No concerns or criticisms ever get directly and appropriately answered. It's always an excuse for almost 4 years now.
very nice of you to offer a refund - however I pledged to this to support you in getting the game made - not as a glorified pre-order :) - so keep the money and stay healthy too btw - we'll get the game in the end and im sure it'll be awesome
I'm not interested in a refund. $30 means nothing to me. I'm interested in you actually doing what you say.
You promised a moderator 2 months ago . Did it take 2 months to come up with another phony excuse? What Exactly have you done to further the game? I'm fascinated to know
Thanks Jonathan. I do truly understand how much patience and faith it's taken to stick with this project. As such, anyone who wants a refund will still retain their access (via both Steam and Humble) to the game, as I'm truly confident AtG will in fact be a great once finished.
Thanks again, everyone.
Admittedly, this game has far exceeded reasonable release expectations. But that's the nature of Kickstarter, and I'm fine with waiting longer, assuming the result is a polished, complete, and high quality game. Hopefully the funding arrangement works out and we're able to see results sooner than later. Until then, I'll keep my fingers crossed and sincerely wish you the best of luck in seeing this through to release.
Oh, and if you are interested in a refund you can do so by sending me either a PM here on Kickstarter or via email at email@example.com.
Just wanted to update you on the latest goings-ons. AtG has obviously taken a fair bit longer than expected but we're still dedicated to finishing the game. The reason for the recent radio silence is that I've been in discussions with a partner to provide financial assistance to finally bite the bullet and hire full-time staff (in addition to just myself) to help get it out the door once. Once the deal is done and I'm contractually allowed to talk about it we'll fill you in on the details.
For anyone who's no longer interested in waiting I have no problem offering a refund of your contribution via PayPal. (As an aside, if I were a charlatan then I'm obviously not a very good one, having cashed out my retirement to pay for development!)
Jon, i think you're more cut out for politics than game development. You do 3 things really well.
1. Solicit money under false promises
2. Get nothing done
3. Lie to and then ignore your supporters
dev ... stupid Kickstarter lacking an edit function.
Aaah shit... looks like my expectations were correct.... a dav selling everything he owns is preparing for bankruptcy and not for the release of a product.
Ah well ... software kickstarters mostly fail, right?
Here we are again, spinning our wheels on this. I am only out $30 for this, but "Civilization 6" release date is already scheduled for October 21, 2016. Time to write this off as a bad debt and move on as while this was ambitious in its initial plan, C-VI is a certainty even though it is not as multifaceted as ATG promised to be, it will be delivered.
AKA that's not an errant comment
wrong game, sorry :) had to many tabs open
It would be nice to hear from you guys again on the state of the game.
If he would release the alpha to the backers, so we had "something" for our pledges I think people would be way more sympathic to the cause.
At the current state of the game, it´s not as if any backer would buy into the alpha anyway.
and we're back on the 6 month vague update routine.....
totally understand, i think if i hadn't bought early access at the beginning i wouldn't do so now for the same reasons...
just find it hard to believe that jon would 'abandon' us voluntarily. i am worried he's seriously ill (he mentioned he had some health issues).. i rather want to believe that once he's better he'll reach out to us again..
AtG was the very first project i supported on KS and now, 30 projects later, i still believe his project was closest to the true spirit of KS. most others had a ready item and (only) wanted exposure, an outlet, marketing, boosting ordering number or what not - and that's all fair too; but jon really needed us to even start and pursue his dream. really hope the pressure did not break him and he'll be able to finish what he dared to start :)
@nik zahn ... I am surely not buying an Alphabuild for a game that I dont see leaving Alpha any time at all. I already put down money in good faith and currently consider this pledge wasted. I would be way more sympathic to the Jon Shafers cause if he did not abandon the community funding his project completely.
@nik just curious, why would anyone want to put out more money to a dev who clearly does not care enough about his backers to, at the very minimum, converse with them on a regular basis? at least you have received value in the alpha build. I have received nothing from this
@Aerouge depending on your pledge level you can already play the Alpha. I've been playing for about a year now.. if you desperately want the early access (and help Jon some more along the way) there is always the option to 'buy' the key on his webpage:
i really hope he'll recover from whatever he's hit with and finishes the game. even though there is still a lot missing in the game it's quite addictive :)
It´s just such a pitty. There seems to be a playable Alpha available. If they would just release this to us it would not have been a complete waste.
well as in real life a picture is worth 1000 words (or in his case 10,000 words). I guess i'll just write this one off as giving money to the homeless.. i.e. Voltaire.
since the conifergames forums are all but abandoned, I would hasten to say that the car is currently upside down in a ditch somewhere with the roadmap nowhere to be found.
So, according to the latest roadmap, the game should be around Alpha status by now. Any news on whether that is actually the case?
oh just dug out this post on the forums:
"Creator Jon Shafer on May 13
Hey all, apologies for the lengthy radio silence. I've been dealing with some health issues the past few months and had to take some time off. I'm back in the saddle as of today though, so no need to worry about whether the game will be finished or not - you should start seeing updates to the game again next week!
Well since he already posted that he sold everything he owns in the last updated I expected this project to fall radiosilent and the creator to file for bankruptcy. Would be sad if my guts were right back then.
Still the last Forum Update for the beta testers was around February ...
Maybe we should try to contact Kickstarter and politely ask for refunds? If there still is some cash left that is ... it worked for Star Citizen ;-)
Let's face it, this game isn't seeing the light of day. >:(
In April and May we got promised a update within some week but now its July and the last update is still Sep. last year. :(
I think that since the game is 2 years past the anticipated completion date and $100k isn't that much money for 2 years of development, we deserve a more open and honest explanation of what's going on. If you're crippled and not able to work, then you should post that you need a year off to get right. if you're out of money, then you should consider a cash call to get what you need to finish the job. simple being MIA for 6 months at a time is unprofessional and shows no respect for the backers
judging from the long silence it must be rather serious - hope you can beat whatever you are fighting and get well soon!
Hope you're feeling well Jon, be careful not to burn out! Take your time with the game, your health is more important!
'Hope you are well \o/
Looking forward for the next update!
Well? How many are a couple?
Apologies for the late response - the next big update should be posted here in a couple weeks.
Yeah any updates for 2016?
Looking forward for some update about the game. Since I have to wait the game release at least your videos and insights on game design can help with the wait!
Any updates? Some Screen shots? :) I always love getting updates on this game
I really enjoyed the previous updates and gameplay videos. Any news? How's the Milestone Schedule progressing?
As a game-dev, I appreciate your dedication to shipping when it's done instead of shooting for a ship date. Really looking forward to seeing the final product Jon!
Ok, prompt delivery. Thank you. And I'm amazed at your level of dedication.
Thanks for updating us here. (Maybe you should still post a real update every couple of months though, not everyone checks the comments.)
So, what about that schedule?
nevermind my question, u answered below had to scroll down :)
thx for the updates, any reason u use the comments in stead of the real updates we get via mail?
November 4 Update …
We've been busy getting a complete, finalized project schedule nailed down over the past couple weeks, and should have it ready to go to the presses soon. As such, the next big project update which will detail exactly that should be posted next week, so stay tuned!
October 27 Update …
Finished writing a script which automates the process of building and deployment of new game versions - what used to be 19 tedious and error-prone steps now only requires a single click!
I was recently a featured guest for the Game Designer's Vault (http://www.gamedesignersvault.com/), a site dedicated to the discipline and game development generally. My bio page there (http://www.gamedesignersvault.com/jon-shafer/) includes a brief career recap along with recommendations for design-related blogs and podcasts I've found informative. If you're a current/aspiring game designer or simply interested in the craft I definitely recommend stopping by the site and checking out all the other great content it has to offer.