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Lead a barbarian kingdom to glory during the final days of the Roman Empire. An empire builder by Jon Shafer, designer of Civ 5.
Lead a barbarian kingdom to glory during the final days of the Roman Empire. An empire builder by Jon Shafer, designer of Civ 5.
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      clayffo 3 days ago

      @JadeL what universe did you just drop in from? There is no finished game nor is there any plan to have it done this decade.

    2. JadeL 4 days ago

      Almost the end of the Q1 2017 goal set by the November 2015 timeline... It's coming down to the wire.

      I hadn't read through the really big update explaining the situation until now. Holy crap... I don't have words to describe the idea of selling everything you own, to complete a project you set out to do. I can understand working while trying not to be concerned about finances, but... I guess the candidness of his personal situation explains a lot. He didn't need to go into that much detail, but after reading it, I wouldn't press him.

      From Jon Shafer's Civilization V (it says Sid Meier's in the title, but it's really far moreso Jon's work) to this... Hopefully he feels like it was worth it in the end, to create something entirely the way he wanted, even if only once. (Hopefully it will be only once, though, seeing how taxing it is...)

    3. Chris ORegan
      on February 25

      Well this didn't turn out as I had hoped. I do so hate backing vapourware, but this is where we apparently are. Terrible shame really and refunds are not possible in situations like this I believe :(

    4. Pieter-Jan Busschaert on February 16

      Actually I am glad to have found this comment thread. I thought there had been complete silence since the last update in august 2016, but I see an update from October 2016 here, so good news.

      Anyway, I think at this point, Jon, you shouldn't be concerned at all about spamming people with updates. It seems almost everyone would appreciate any updates. Even if it was just an update to tell us that we should look in the comments for more regular/small updates :-)

      I'm still following this game and will play it once it's released, but please try to be realistic about the choice between continuing and abandoning the game. I'd love to see it completely finished, but it seems you're hurting yourself financially (and probably also your health) by continuing. From the updates, it seems you are the one who wants to finish this more than any of us.

      Please keep in mind that stopping the development, announcing this openly and putting up the latest alpha as the "final" release, is a real option. The only / main reason to continue at this point seems to be if you are convinced you can recuperate all the money you still spend on this by sales of the finished product. The problem is, nobody is good at predicting how much money you will still spend and how much you would gain in sales.

    5. Jonathan Walters
      on February 14

      I have to admit, I'm extremely disappointed at the lack of updates and/or information to give backers some kind of indication of forward progress, especially given how long this project has dragged on in alpha. I've pretty much written AtG off at this point and if we do get a finished game in the end, I'll seriously be surprised. And that's unfortunate because the alpha feedback seems to generally be quite positive.

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      clayffo on February 3

      He should get to you within 6 months

    7. axisandallies on February 3

      I have submitted the requests but am being ignored. Big surprise.

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      clayffo on January 31

      Read back to jons October 28th post below for a refund .

    9. axisandallies on January 30

      How do we get refunds for this? I backed at the 80 dollar level, and have lost all confidence.

    10. Christian Weisskopf on January 26

      Happy 2017. Do we have to wait until August to get the next update?

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      clayffo on December 14

      It appears he's out of money and likely working another job to pay the bills.

      I can't see how a real investor would be interested as he's mismanaged our funds and his own. He's also missed the target release by almost 4 years now . A complete lack of transparency is also a red flag

    12. Nekator
      on December 12

      So this is dead or not?

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      clayffo on December 10


      When are your parents,I mean investors, going to give you the money?

      Bye you've still failed to appoint a community manager.

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      clayffo on November 16

      @Michael, you shouldn't encourage bad behavior. Jon has done nothing but lie and ignore his supporters for over a year. read back to mine and other comments. Go to the game forum No concerns or criticisms ever get directly and appropriately answered. It's always an excuse for almost 4 years now.

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      Michael Johnsen
      on November 15

      very nice of you to offer a refund - however I pledged to this to support you in getting the game made - not as a glorified pre-order :) - so keep the money and stay healthy too btw - we'll get the game in the end and im sure it'll be awesome

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      clayffo on November 7


      I'm not interested in a refund. $30 means nothing to me. I'm interested in you actually doing what you say.

      You promised a moderator 2 months ago . Did it take 2 months to come up with another phony excuse? What Exactly have you done to further the game? I'm fascinated to know

    17. Jon Shafer Creator on October 28

      Thanks Jonathan. I do truly understand how much patience and faith it's taken to stick with this project. As such, anyone who wants a refund will still retain their access (via both Steam and Humble) to the game, as I'm truly confident AtG will in fact be a great once finished.

      Thanks again, everyone.

      - Jon

    18. Jonathan Walters
      on October 28

      Admittedly, this game has far exceeded reasonable release expectations. But that's the nature of Kickstarter, and I'm fine with waiting longer, assuming the result is a polished, complete, and high quality game. Hopefully the funding arrangement works out and we're able to see results sooner than later. Until then, I'll keep my fingers crossed and sincerely wish you the best of luck in seeing this through to release.

    19. Jon Shafer Creator on October 27

      Oh, and if you are interested in a refund you can do so by sending me either a PM here on Kickstarter or via email at

      - Jon

    20. Jon Shafer Creator on October 27

      Hey all,

      Just wanted to update you on the latest goings-ons. AtG has obviously taken a fair bit longer than expected but we're still dedicated to finishing the game. The reason for the recent radio silence is that I've been in discussions with a partner to provide financial assistance to finally bite the bullet and hire full-time staff (in addition to just myself) to help get it out the door once. Once the deal is done and I'm contractually allowed to talk about it we'll fill you in on the details.

      For anyone who's no longer interested in waiting I have no problem offering a refund of your contribution via PayPal. (As an aside, if I were a charlatan then I'm obviously not a very good one, having cashed out my retirement to pay for development!)

      - Jon

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      clayffo on October 27

      Jon, i think you're more cut out for politics than game development. You do 3 things really well.
      1. Solicit money under false promises
      2. Get nothing done
      3. Lie to and then ignore your supporters

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      clayffo on October 27

      Jon, i think you're more cut out for politics than game development. You do 3 things really well.
      1. Solicit money under false promises
      2. Get nothing done
      3. Lie to and then ignore your supporters

    23. Aerouge
      on October 13

      dev ... stupid Kickstarter lacking an edit function.

    24. Aerouge
      on October 13

      Aaah shit... looks like my expectations were correct.... a dav selling everything he owns is preparing for bankruptcy and not for the release of a product.

      Ah well ... software kickstarters mostly fail, right?

    25. pharmac on September 18, 2016

      Here we are again, spinning our wheels on this. I am only out $30 for this, but "Civilization 6" release date is already scheduled for October 21, 2016. Time to write this off as a bad debt and move on as while this was ambitious in its initial plan, C-VI is a certainty even though it is not as multifaceted as ATG promised to be, it will be delivered.

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      clayffo on September 7, 2016

      AKA that's not an errant comment

    27. AKASlaphappy
      on September 6, 2016

      wrong game, sorry :) had to many tabs open

    28. AKASlaphappy
      on September 6, 2016

      It would be nice to hear from you guys again on the state of the game.

    29. Aerouge
      on August 30, 2016

      @nik zahn
      If he would release the alpha to the backers, so we had "something" for our pledges I think people would be way more sympathic to the cause.
      At the current state of the game, it´s not as if any backer would buy into the alpha anyway.

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      clayffo on August 25, 2016

      and we're back on the 6 month vague update routine.....

    31. nik zahn on August 24, 2016

      totally understand, i think if i hadn't bought early access at the beginning i wouldn't do so now for the same reasons...
      just find it hard to believe that jon would 'abandon' us voluntarily. i am worried he's seriously ill (he mentioned he had some health issues).. i rather want to believe that once he's better he'll reach out to us again..
      AtG was the very first project i supported on KS and now, 30 projects later, i still believe his project was closest to the true spirit of KS. most others had a ready item and (only) wanted exposure, an outlet, marketing, boosting ordering number or what not - and that's all fair too; but jon really needed us to even start and pursue his dream. really hope the pressure did not break him and he'll be able to finish what he dared to start :)

    32. Aerouge
      on August 22, 2016

      @nik zahn ... I am surely not buying an Alphabuild for a game that I dont see leaving Alpha any time at all. I already put down money in good faith and currently consider this pledge wasted. I would be way more sympathic to the Jon Shafers cause if he did not abandon the community funding his project completely.

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      clayffo on August 16, 2016

      @nik just curious, why would anyone want to put out more money to a dev who clearly does not care enough about his backers to, at the very minimum, converse with them on a regular basis? at least you have received value in the alpha build. I have received nothing from this

    34. nik zahn on August 13, 2016

      @Aerouge depending on your pledge level you can already play the Alpha. I've been playing for about a year now.. if you desperately want the early access (and help Jon some more along the way) there is always the option to 'buy' the key on his webpage:

      i really hope he'll recover from whatever he's hit with and finishes the game. even though there is still a lot missing in the game it's quite addictive :)

    35. Aerouge
      on July 28, 2016

      It´s just such a pitty. There seems to be a playable Alpha available. If they would just release this to us it would not have been a complete waste.

    36. JLLongshore on July 27, 2016

      well as in real life a picture is worth 1000 words (or in his case 10,000 words). I guess i'll just write this one off as giving money to the homeless.. i.e. Voltaire.

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      clayffo on July 26, 2016

      since the conifergames forums are all but abandoned, I would hasten to say that the car is currently upside down in a ditch somewhere with the roadmap nowhere to be found.

    38. Niels on July 26, 2016

      So, according to the latest roadmap, the game should be around Alpha status by now. Any news on whether that is actually the case?

    39. Aerouge
      on July 21, 2016

      oh just dug out this post on the forums:…

      "Creator Jon Shafer on May 13

      Hey all, apologies for the lengthy radio silence. I've been dealing with some health issues the past few months and had to take some time off. I'm back in the saddle as of today though, so no need to worry about whether the game will be finished or not - you should start seeing updates to the game again next week!

      - Jon"

    40. Aerouge
      on July 21, 2016

      Well since he already posted that he sold everything he owns in the last updated I expected this project to fall radiosilent and the creator to file for bankruptcy. Would be sad if my guts were right back then.

      Still the last Forum Update for the beta testers was around February ...

      Maybe we should try to contact Kickstarter and politely ask for refunds? If there still is some cash left that is ... it worked for Star Citizen ;-)

    41. Josh Wolf on July 15, 2016

      Let's face it, this game isn't seeing the light of day. >:(

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      Adauli, Red Wizard of the Obisdian Order on July 6, 2016

      In April and May we got promised a update within some week but now its July and the last update is still Sep. last year. :(

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      clayffo on June 30, 2016

      I think that since the game is 2 years past the anticipated completion date and $100k isn't that much money for 2 years of development, we deserve a more open and honest explanation of what's going on. If you're crippled and not able to work, then you should post that you need a year off to get right. if you're out of money, then you should consider a cash call to get what you need to finish the job. simple being MIA for 6 months at a time is unprofessional and shows no respect for the backers

    44. nik zahn on June 24, 2016

      judging from the long silence it must be rather serious - hope you can beat whatever you are fighting and get well soon!

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      Radnom on May 31, 2016

      Hope you're feeling well Jon, be careful not to burn out! Take your time with the game, your health is more important!

    46. Hipparchia on May 23, 2016

      'Hope you are well \o/
      Looking forward for the next update!

    47. Jon Shafer Creator on May 13, 2016

      Hey all, apologies for the lengthy radio silence. I've been dealing with some health issues the past few months and had to take some time off. I'm back in the saddle as of today though, so no need to worry about whether the game will be finished or not - you should start seeing updates to the game again next week!

      - Jon

    48. Aerouge
      on May 3, 2016

      Well? How many are a couple?

    49. Jon Shafer Creator on April 11, 2016

      Apologies for the late response - the next big update should be posted here in a couple weeks.

      - Jon

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