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Wasteland 2 has been released to great acclaim, earning Game of the Year from PCWorld, and reaching #1 on the Steam sales charts! Thanks to all our backers for helping us make this game a reality!
61,290 backers pledged $2,933,252 to help bring this project to life.

New Reward Tier Announced

As our Kickstarter continues to build momentum, we will keep focusing on how we can best deliver what our fans want.  We've seen quite a few messages from our international fans expressing concern with the cost of shipping and physical goods relating to VAT and customs costs.  For that reason, we opened up a purely digital pledge level at $55 that contains no physical items.  You will get the digital copy of the game, digital soundtrack, digital novellas 1 and 2, digital concept art book and early beta access.

We've had an amazing amount of support from our fans, and we couldn't be happier with how many people are showing up to help make this game special.  Please continue getting the word out in the remaining days of the campaign to help us finish strong.  A countdown timer on our Wasteland 2 website is now ticking away the days, minutes and seconds to the finish.  You can help spread the word by adding the counter to your own blog or website—just use the handy “Add to your site” button next to the counter.  Thanks!  

Brian Fargo

Comments

    1. Creator Josh Robinson on April 16, 2012

      Woops wrong comments lol

    2. Creator Josh Robinson on April 16, 2012

      "Can I get my digital copy on Steam, if I want?

      Absolutely. The digital copies will be made available through Steam and other DRM free digital distribution methods."

      Speaking as a Mac desktop user and a windows laptop user I dont think it is unreasonable for people to want Steamplay enabled since we already know it will be available on Steam.

    3. Creator Richard Bergman on April 14, 2012

      yay an potential encounter with a rabid dog turned out to be a spiked mut! still regarding to the monies, and the 25% custom and 27,5$ fee i have to pay, what will the approxamately total cost of the of the items in the box be?

    4. Creator Taalen on April 13, 2012

      Thanks Jamie - I had indeed missed that. And it's excellent news, certainly everything I was hoping for :)

    5. Creator Continuity on April 13, 2012

      This is a recent update in the FAQ that you guys may not have seen:

      We'll value the package we send to you at the cost of the items in the box, not how much money you donated to the Kickstarter campaign. This should help keep customs fees low for our non-US backers.

    6. Creator Jack Gumoes on April 13, 2012

      couldn't you argue that 1. it IS of an occasional nature and 2. it wasn't bought, it was a gift for helping out a company (the context would be the same as lending a neighbour some money, and they bring over a bottle of wine as a thank-you)

    7. Creator Taalen on April 13, 2012

      Well, the problem here is, really, that there is no "real amount" to be written on the box. Writing the commercial price makes no sense as the backers have not purchased the product as such, so a price that includes commercial profit margins would simply be wrong. Something like 30€ would still be on the high side considering the production costs per box cannot be that expensive. I'm still campaigning for writing the value down as the cost to produce a box, perhaps a little higher if the number would be suspiciously low. 15-20€ perhaps.

    8. Creator Kevin Behrendt (Raging Herald) on April 11, 2012

      Easiest would be just to declare the package around 30 Euro, so it may be above the maximum at which point you have to pay tax but will get through OR you just have to spend a few coins. Of course, writing the real amount on the box/invoice would be ridiculous expensive.

    9. Creator Jim Chaney on April 11, 2012

      From UK HM Revenue and Customs website:

      2.4 Gifts
      Goods sent as a gift that are over £40 in value are liable to import VAT. Customs duty also becomes payable if the value of the goods is over £135 but is waived if the amount of duty calculated is less than £9.

      To qualify as a gift:
      the customs declaration must be completed correctly
      the gift must be sent from a private person outside the EU to a private person(s) in this country
      there is no commercial or trade element and the gift has not been paid for either directly or indirectly by anyone in the UK
      the gift is of an occasional nature only, for example, for a birthday or anniversary

      Backing this game fails at least 2 of those conditions (probably three). Long and short of it, you are importing, you owe taxes.

    10. Creator twincast: Eternally Tormented Mangy WoOS on April 11, 2012

      I'm currently at 65$ since I would really love to have a boxed version and am strongly considering raising it to 115$, but either way customs can be rather stupid, especially as no full price PC/console/handheld game falls under the ridiculously low free amount of value per shipping... I get my occasional US Blu-rays from Amazon.com without any hassle, though. I'm pretty sure writing "gift" on an official looking package won't help half of us and might even get inXile in trouble, so I'm all for declaring a low but reasonable value on the boxes, thus maybe 20$ for the 50$ & 75$ tiers, 25$ for the 100$ tier, 30$ for the 150$ tier, 35$ for the 250$ tier and then go from there with reasonable increases for whatever's in the survival kit and then the EBS figurine?

    11. Creator Richard Bergman on April 11, 2012

      hi inxile. i'm from denmark, and i've pledged 115$, but if marking the package as a "gift" won't solve VAT and custom cost (and here we pay 25% plus 27,32$ in custom fee), and you choose not to use an external EU company solution in order to produce the physical EU games – or any other oldchool EU compatible solution - i'll choose the 15$ or 30$ pledge instead. The reason: why is the all digital international friendly pledge 5$ more expensive than the physical 50$ pledge - thought the justification of that pledge was the production costs!? you're basically paying 25$ more than the 30$ only for two digital novellas and a steam beta with without the extra game and no oldschool physical goods - especially considering i want the DRM free solution instead of the steam and therefore the steam beta won't be an option anyway. Me and my friends are actually really disappointed about this, so i hope that you'll find a solution or clarify the matter before the campaign is over. Otherwise it'll be 70 - 85$ less from our part, and probably many other EU citizens as well. Please find a solution because then i would without hesitation keep the 115$ pledge and savour the moment when i receive my oldschool package and all of its content! (hopefully) thanks!

    12. Creator Continuity on April 9, 2012

      From a UK perspective I think we're likely to be liable for 20% VAT on the amount pledged, I don't think there would be any import duty (computer games are listed as 0% import duty) but don't quote me. So a pledge of $115 for the $100 reward and shipping would incur about £14.50 VAT on top at the current exchange rates, and $65 for the $50 reward tier would incur £8.20 in VAT.

    13. Creator Paul on April 7, 2012

      Marking packages as gifts isn't really a magic bullet, from my experiences with customs they'll just ignore it if they think the package comes from a commercial entity rather than a private individual. Also, it may not exempt the package from VAT completely, just slightly increase value of VAT exemption cap.

    14. Creator Stefan Rotenberg on April 7, 2012

      I remain of strong opinion that these rewards should be marked as gifts, simply because they haven't been bought, but, rather, sort of "earned" or "given" (thus 'gifts'). Bureaucracy, though, may not fully understand that. In the event that marking the itens as 'Gifts' is not possible or desireable, I think they should be marked with as low a value as legally possible - not, I repeat, because they don't hold value, but because their value is not market or commerce related (I'm a backer, not a buyer!).

    15. Creator Tom Neale on April 7, 2012

      Lot's of people have good suggestions here but the truth of the matter is (I do a fair amount of international shipping for conferences): It all comes down to the snap decision the guys and girls in customs make. one day a box can cost nothing another day a reasonable amount based on the item value you've listed and sometimes six times that value and your choice is to lose the shipment and give up/send again/get on a plane yourself with it all in the hold or pony up
      Still being that this is all digital I'd love it if the price was a little lower - but I am a cheap b*stard

    16. Creator Mark Rice on April 7, 2012

      just send it as a gift, it is a gift. we are not paying for the finished product, we are simply investing in the company with the promise of certain gifts when its done.

    17. Creator Kris Davidson on April 7, 2012

      Just put a low value on the physical item and that should avoid a lot of the import stuff.

    18. Creator Frank Schmidt-Radefeldt on April 7, 2012

      concerning shipping: good idea. writing "gift" onto the shipment would be best - but i also see this too unbelievable for customs.
      Afaik there are certain limits, below which custom does not look into parcels. i think its around 40$... so maybe create an invoice for around 20$, even if that would be taxed, it would be a minimal amout?

    19. Creator Taalen on April 7, 2012

      Even if you the boxes couldn't be shipped as gifts - which certainly would be an appropriate and rightful way to do but sadly on a collision course with bureaucracy. However, the value marked on the box certainly shouldn't be the 50$ of the pledge - that money's supposed to go primarily to game development expenses, not producing the physical goodies in a physical box. My suggestion would be to ship the boxes out with the cost it takes to produce a boxed copy marked as the price - If total production cost for a box I would be, say, 10$, that's the value of contents that should be written on the label. There's no reason to use values including commercial profit margins in case of backers.

    20. Creator Andrew C on April 7, 2012

      Unfortunately I'm pretty sure that any customs officer will argue that copies of Wasteland 2 do not qualify as gifts under the relevant customs codes.

    21. Creator George Gasparakis on April 7, 2012

      Quoting Stefan Rotenberg:
      "I'm clearly not alone on this: please ship any goods as Gifts. And give some thought to Teemu Pääkkönen's idea: to handle internatinal versions, well, internationally. "
      +1
      yes please. Do not punish us because we are in another continent. Think of those ideas.

    22. Creator David Khono Hackland on April 7, 2012

      @Ignacio Gaston Viana Courtial: You could probably get a collector's edition after the game is released, however, you may not be able to get the figurine. If you know anyone in the US, you could maybe get it all sent to them and have them forward it to you somehow. Shipping is ridiculous these days :(

    23. Creator Stefan Rotenberg on April 7, 2012

      I'm clearly not alone on this: please ship any goods as Gifts. And give some thought to Teemu Pääkkönen's idea: to handle internatinal versions, well, internationally. (Though, personally, I would rather have the same (read: english) version as every other backer).

    24. Creator Gaston Courtial on April 7, 2012

      Help me! I'm terribly conflicted!! .
      Initially i pledge for the collectors edition ($115). Since the standard edition was 65$, I would rather pay a little extra for the collectors ed and get more stuff. However, now, with the $55 I can get most of the extra stuff with out the hassle of international shipping. This would be the ideal option, right? well, no, I still want the miniature (I'm a sucker for those...) and a hard copy of the game...

      What should I do? pledged $115 and get the collectors or play it safe, go with $55 and get less stuff but without any trouble or hidden bills from my local custom department??

    25. Creator Daryl Kurtz on April 6, 2012

      Besides, the 55 tier gets the beta too. They just didn't capitalize it.

    26. Creator Bartek Baran on April 6, 2012

      Isn't the point of a beta to be quite limited? It's not the full version, why should you spoil your fun then? I would've been elligible for it if it weren't for the shipping but I still wouldn't try it just to wait for the final outcome.

    27. Creator Ashley Penney on April 6, 2012

      I think adding beta to the $50 tier would suck a lot more people in. I jumped to $75 to get the beta but .. a lot won't.

    28. Creator Vecha on April 6, 2012

      You think you could add the Beta to the 50$ tier? :)

      I am in the US, and want my boxed copy...but I'd like the beta too...

    29. Creator Martijn on April 6, 2012

      Holy Sh*t, looks like you're pulling a Double Fine here! We're really rapidly approaching the 2.1M$ which proves the DF adventure is NOT a freak event. Anyone remember who were the guys that brought us other classics like Packman, Tetris and Arkanoid?

    30. Creator Atik on April 6, 2012

      Early Beta? That what i like to hear! I just hope it's really early not how EA makes beta (one month before game ships!)

    31. Creator Mark Doherty on April 6, 2012

      One of the videos Tim Schafer did during his sell of the Double Fine Adventure was an interview with Ron Gilbert on adventure games. Since we're past the 2.1 million threshold (I'm including paypal, but the kickstarter will be there by itself soon) a similar video with Chris Avellone would probably help raise interest if you could get it out in a soon~ish update.

    32. Creator Brian Holme on April 6, 2012

      cool i might also go to the digital only package even though im in the us looks like a good deal

    33. Creator Paul Eipper on April 6, 2012

      I would like to echo Stefan Rotenberg, I pledged $115 to help with the funding, please send all mail goods as personal GIFTS of no value, otherwise I will get screwed big time by taxes here in Brazil.

      And as Teemu Pääkkönen mentions, maybe you can get the local publisher branches to actually do the shipping for each country, this would help everyone.

    34. Creator Belazure on April 6, 2012

      Smart move, that's exactly the kind of reward I want. Upped my pledge from 30 to 55. Hope that helps too.

    35. Creator Mark Wilkinson on April 6, 2012

      Also looks like the $55 tier gets the beta on steam, while the $50 tier does not. Basically the $55 tier is a digital-only version of the $75 tier. Save $20 bucks if you don't want the boxed game, with the printed manual and cloth map.

    36. Creator Galaad on April 6, 2012

      David Thomas, I think you missed the Early Beta Access, also 50$ only gets novella part 1. I think those are the main difference on top of not costing any shipping for all of us outside US.

    37. Creator David Thomas on April 6, 2012

      Just wondering why the $55 reward tier has the same contents as the $50 reward tier.. but the $55 tier is all virtual goods (no printing) and the $50 is all physical with shipping (in the US). Am I missing something?

    38. Creator Alfonso Nishikawa on April 6, 2012

      Perfect option for anyone that does not want physical things (like me). Thanks a lot :)

    39. Creator ncrav on April 6, 2012

      @Stargazer: Thank you for the answer.

      Could someone from inxile perhaps release an info update on how do they plan to send the rewads and what will be the declared value? (VAT and customs are, at least in my country, dependant on the declared value of the package).

      That would save the backers a lot of possible problems and money.

    40. Creator Pedro Antonio Sanz Jiménez on April 6, 2012

      @drakrochma: The 55$ all digital package has the same things that the 50$ one (except the box) and all the digital goods of the 75$ option.

      In my opinion is a fair price and a great idea, thanks.

    41. Creator Victor on April 6, 2012

      Great idea, thank you =)

    42. Creator Daniel Lucas on April 6, 2012

      In the UK it depends on the value of the actual items sent, as Tax/customs will depends on how much the item is labelled as being worth, and I know the goods I'm receiving shouldn't be worth $150, most of that should be funding ;)

    43. Creator Erich L. on April 6, 2012

      With the next update, perhaps elaborate on the contents of the survival bag? Only reason I am holding back is because I am not certain that the items included will be allowed into the country by customs. Sometimes the ban list gets mighty strange.

    44. Creator Paul Tötterman on April 6, 2012

      Thank you!

    45. Creator Paul "TBBle" Hampson on April 6, 2012

      @drakrochma: The new $55 tier is the $35-cheaper digital-only version of the $75 tier.

      I'm undecided on raising my pledge. I won't read the novella until after the game, since it contains hints... Same with beta access, I don't want to burn out on the game before it's done.

    46. Creator lester2dev on April 6, 2012

      BTW, 2,1 mln reached (including paypal). Go go go, Chris!

    47. Creator Fabian Winkler on April 6, 2012

      I do not mean the money from kickstarter but from the profit of final sold game. The kickstarter money is only for the devs.

    48. Creator Matthias Rolf on April 6, 2012

      @Fabian Winkler:
      That would encourage people to pledge a minimal amount in the hope of actually making money instead of giving it to the devs... which would kinda ruin the point of the whole thing.

    49. Creator Fabian Winkler on April 6, 2012

      just had an idea inspired by the kicking it forward idea. Why not give 5% of the profit made back to the backers? Depending on how much you can get some money back. Something like a crowd version of ROI (return of investment).

    50. Creator Arteziya on April 6, 2012

      Changed my pledge from 30$ to 55$, thanks to new digital distribution offer. Postal service in our country is very unreliable, and customs are expensive, so previous 50$ offer wouldn't have worked for me.