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Cancellation with a look to the future.

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Hello, fans and friends of the Multiverse.

We have learned a lot from Kickstarter over the years. During the Kickstarter for the Shattered Timelines expansion for Sentinels of the Multiverse, we said we would not run any more Kickstarters for Sentinels of the Multiverse products - that game is well established enough to support its own expansions. Since then, we have decided to go a step further and not run Kickstarter campaigns for expansions for any existing products. If a product is strong enough to warrant an expansion, it shouldn't need a Kickstarter campaign to make that expansion happen. 

When we run Kickstarter campaigns, the purpose is two-fold: procure funding for a product we are interested in making and gauge interest in said product. As a result - even though we are cancelling the Kickstarter for Sentinel Conflict and the Cosmic Contest comic book - we consider this Kickstarter campaign to have successfully done its job. It let us know whether we should make these products or not.

We had hoped there would be interest in a Sentinel Comics version of Story War, as we had played and enjoyed Story War. However, the response here, on our website and others, and on social media has been clear: Story War is not a direction people are interested in seeing the Multiverse go. Good to know! We are glad to have learned that now and not after printing several thousand copies of the game.

We were more surprised by a general lack of interest in the comic book. "When are you going to start making actual comic books?" is a question we get with great regularity, and so we were excited to answer "NOW!" with this campaign. And when we were asked for a digital version, we figured out what we needed to do to make PDFs of the comic available as pledge levels. However, here we are, most of the way through the campaign, with barely over a hundred backers of the comic book levels. This Kickstarter has also informed us that, though people may be interested in reading comic books from Sentinel Comics, few are interested in purchasing them. And that is good to know. We are still interested in making comic books, and Adam and I will continue to work on them, but they will remain side projects at most, as we have to continue to make actually salable products to continue to survive as a company.

The other feedback that we have gotten from this campaign is just how much people want us to continue making content for the Sentinels of the Multiverse card game and for the Sentinel Tactics tabletop game. That is great! Those of you interested in Sentinels of the Multiverse should check out our recently released Challenges and Achievements! Also, you will be excited to learn that the Wrath of the Cosmos expansion has begun shipping, so if you preordered it, you'll get it soon! And if not, it'll be available for sale soon! Sentinel Tactics fans can look forward to more official Sentinel Tactics Tournaments! And gaming events are happening all over the place this month as part of Multiverse Month! Get your local gaming store involved!

Additionally, keep an eye on our website, as we will have even more exciting news about the world of Sentinel Comics in the next few weeks. The cancellation of this Kickstarter is a somber event, but what we have learned from it is invaluable, and we look forward to giving you more of the game content you want!

Thank you for being a part of our Multiverse. We couldn't do this without you. Keep on saving the Multiverse

-Christopher Badell
Game Design Director
Greater Than Games, LLC

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    1. Brandon 'Link' Copp-Millward on February 16, 2015

      I was interested in both a comic and the story war game (which I never heard of before.) I'm very interested in learning more about the vibrant world of Sentinels that is only glimpsed through character bios and flavor texts.

    2. David Kiker
      Superbacker
      on January 7, 2015

      I backed for the comic. I have no concrete evidence but I think a comic only kickstarter (in the comics section) might succeed. Especially if postage costs could be kept under control (maybe by shipping physical copies using USPS "media mail rate". I think the combined game/comic kickstarter was really viewed as a game plus a comic promo.

    3. Nigel Phillips
      Superbacker
      on January 6, 2015

      I too backed at $10 comic PDF, due to postage. I already ordered the latest SoTM expansion, and ideally would only buy physical copies of a story game or comics as part of a larger order, to reduce the postage per item cost.
      Combining these two just seems to have confused things, rather than gathering clear management info. Go for comics plus a SoTM promo, and I believe you would have a high demand.

    4. Perry Grosshans on January 6, 2015

      I'm sad to see the project cancelled but totally understand. I for one was actually looking forward to getting the collectible cards from the game! As for the comic book - YES! I really wanted that. Hopefully interest in the comics rises again, and we can see some motion on that front. Until then: keep up the good work!

    5. Timothy McFadden
      Superbacker
      on January 6, 2015

      I personally would love to see the comic and even threw $105 at just the comic (plenty of copies of myself and nephews and nieces). I wasn't really interested in Story Wars, but if you ever need some help producing a comic please let me know because I would love to chip in for that. One a complete side note an pen & paper / table top RPG still would be of great interest to me!

    6. HikariStarshine on January 5, 2015

      I, for one, would much rather have a whole series of comics as a stand-alone kickstarter than have a game with a comic add-on.

      I was in for the game, but I don't think it would've gotten played much, to be honest. I still have a hard time getting anything that isn't SotM itself to the table, even as much as I absolutely love playing Tactics (and GSF is slowly growing on me).

    7. Estelindis (Siobhán Mooney) on January 5, 2015

      I'm really disappointed that you cancelled this. I love the characters of Sentinels of the Multiverse and I was looking forward to reading the comic. I do think that, as William Umstattd said, several factors worked against this Kickstarter, to the point that it's not as useful as it could be as a way of gauging interest. I don't think that its failure to reach its funding goal with a few days still to go necessarily shows that the comic wouldn't be worth making from a business perspective. (For the record, I am not totally uninterested in the Story Conflict game, but I live in Europe and have already paid $40 shipping several times for various products from GtG over the past year, to the point that I couldn't justify it again in terms of my overall finances. The .pdf only level was perfect for me.) Anyway, please give the comic, at least, another chance, at a time and in a way that lets it realise its potential. It's understandable if you want to leave it for a bit - you are probably more disappointed by how this turned out than any of us - but please do reevaluate the situation at a later point.

    8. William Lewis Taylor II on January 5, 2015

      I think William Umstattd makes really great points all around. Seriously, listen to this guy. I found the concept of the game interesting, but it seemed odd. I had no problem backing for the comic.

    9. Stone Table Games on January 5, 2015

      @GreaterThanGames I'm not sure if the game added or took away backers (because of how confusing it was) from the campaign. I know it blurred the numbers of who wanted what. Also I think not having a video or posting a link to the current comic hurt you more then your taking into account. I don't feel like the comic got a fair shot. If you relaunch the comic on it's own and put some effort into making the project look nice I think it would fund no problem. If not you haven't lost too much and you will know for sure. I just don't want the comic to die because of an unfair test and I feel this project was an unfair test. I go into more detail about why in this blog post http://www.williamumstattd.com/2015/01/7-reasons-gtg-latest-kickstarter-failed-and-why-they-should-restart-with-only-the-comic-book/

    10. GreaterThanGames 12-time creator on January 5, 2015

      Paul made a statement a post on our forums that offered a little more insight into the business aspect of things.
      https://greaterthangames.com/comment/92881#comment-92881

    11. Dwayne Stewart
      Superbacker
      on January 5, 2015

      Retry with comic book only and much lower funding threshold. There is no reason the comic could not fund on its own.

    12. Stone Table Games on January 5, 2015

      I think you may be wrong about the comics not having a market. There are a few other factors you didn't take into account.

      1. December and January are the 2 slowest months on Kickstarter. The other project I'm following this month is also struggling despite having a huge following.

      2. No videos and lack of response in the comments (8 out of 92 comments was yours by my count) showed lack of interest. I have been following your last few campaigns and this one was the only one where I felt you didn't have your heart in it. I understand you were spread too thin with all of the other stuff you're working on like the App, steam version SoMV, shipping WoC, prepping for PAX South and Christmas. I just think you picked a bad time for both you and us.

      3. One good project pulled down by one bad project. By running these campaigns together you had to have a higher goal and thus only funded 70%. Also it was a little confusing if this was a game, comic or both. Personally my brothers and I don't like storytelling games but love the idea of a comic. If you look at your numbers most wanted just the comic (107 backers), just wanted the game (63 backers) or backed both (507 backers) you can see that one was waned more than the others. I also think that many of the 507 who backed for both really just wanted the comic but also wanted it to fund so they backed at the higher level. If you run just the comic with a video and showing more interest at a better time of the year it will fund.

      4. Lack of Sentinels of the Multiverse Promos. If you add more promos people will back you even more.

      5. Lack of high dollar levels. You had enough backs to fund this if they were giving you more than $10 for the comic. High level pledges can bring in the extra funds needed to get people excited about this project getting

      6. Shipping killed you. Because the levels were so low and the shipping was so high people didn’t think it was worth it. Also US backers (for better or worse) expect free shipping (or included shipping) in Kickstarter projects. Because they saw how high shipping was they had to think twice before backing.

      7. You ended the project before the 48 hour magic could happen. Most projects (especially if they reach 70% like yours did) will get most of their funding in the last few days. Lots of people were waiting to get one more paycheck after Christmas before spending money on a Kickstarter.

      I really like the idea of a comic with my favorite Sentinels characters in it. I love the Sentinels universe and I feel like others do to. It's not that people didn't want to pay for a comic you just picked a time of the year when on one has extra money to back Kickstarter Projects. If you relaunch in May with a Good video and link to the existing comic (with no other projects jumbled in with it) I think you will succeed. A lower goal will give backers more confidence this comic will happen. Don't give up now because of bad data.

    13. TaffyGuy
      Superbacker
      on January 5, 2015

      I really wanted the comic book and the game looked like fun. I am looking forward to more content in this universe no matter what format it is in.

      Please try the comic again, this time on its own.

    14. Anestis Kozakis
      Superbacker
      on January 5, 2015

      I think people just want the comic books, not the comic books as add-ons to another product.

      If you did a Kickstarter for the comic books only it might be a different story.

      But hey, I was one of the people who wanted both this game AND the comic books, so there you go.

    15. William Ekhardt
      Superbacker
      on January 5, 2015

      As an avid comic reader, I'm heartsick that Cosmic Contest didn't make print. I kickstarted the game and book, and was hoping to use the game to bring more casual gamers into the Sentinels Of the Multiverse Multiverse...I'm sorry this didn't work out.

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      Geoffrey Benedict on January 5, 2015

      I do hope that Cosmic contest makes it eventually.

      I understand that the time required to complete a comic is a serious financial investment, but I hope to at least see the comic make a comeback in some form, I am really interested in the storyline surrounding these events.

      I am less upset about Story Wars not working out. I think the game would be great, but I would probably have had trouble getting it played outside of forum games.

    17. Sonvar on January 5, 2015

      I don't think the issue was the comic or the game. If these had been separate entities I think the funding would have succeeded. Also, I don't think the word on the kickstarter was spread that much which after initial SotM or Story War folks heard about this very few backers were coming afterwards.

      Personally, I was hoping for a physical comic book and would still be happy to pay for one.

    18. Brutilus on January 5, 2015

      I'm a little disappointed that this fell through, but would like you to know that there are plenty of us that would gladly pay for the comics. I would suggest that they could easily be packaged with expansions or promos to increase the value to fans.

    19. Patrick Aquilone (The Packy Company) on January 5, 2015

      I am sorry to see this one be canceled. I bought and love Story War and was looking forward to this. But I do know it doesn't appeal to everyone. Any chance for a PNP for people who were willing to back it?

    20. MagiusAlpha
      Superbacker
      on January 5, 2015

      This may be a case of putting too many eggs in one basket. Those interested in the Story Wars expansion would have been driven off by the comic book, and those interested in the Comic Book would have been driven off by the game. Assuming that the cost was to do both (which really do require two very different sequencesof events to come in), and pledges were about equal for each side, we would be looking at ~14 out of 20k for both projects - which is close enough that both could have potentially gotten the pledges to succeed rather than being pulled at this point.

    21. Joshua Rine on January 5, 2015

      I think you might be misunderstanding the interest level of the comic book. Most of the people I know that keep asking for comic books want comics about the characters we have been playing games with, a closer look at who they are and what they do. This one comic book that was on this kickstarter was just a free-for-all fight that we can do with the game.

      Personally I backed the project to get both because I like what the Multiverse has to offer. If it isn't going to be printed, I am ok with that.

    22. Christopher D on January 5, 2015

      I would like to point out that the highest level also contains the comic. So over 600 folks have pledged to acquire the comic book.

    23. robby hayes on January 5, 2015

      I wonder if the kickstarter had just been for the comic if it would have done better. Having played story wars, and not being a big fan, I was uninterested in that part of the project, but I am still hoping the Cosmic Contest comic gets made. Not sure if this kickstarter was any kind of indicator about the comic, since a lot of people probably never got far enough into the kickstarter to see that it existed.

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      Daniel Galandiuk on January 5, 2015

      Sorry it didn't work. Would love to see the Comic be released for sale, but good luck in whatever direction you choose to go.