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@Wavy So great chatting with you. One of my convention highlights was getting to talk face-to-face with cool people like you who I might not otherwise get to meet :-)
@aysp Got it! It does seem like the forces converged to make shipping tricky. Well, I'll try to keep the pledge manager unlocked as long as I can. Hope you're able to find some kind soul to ship the package to who can pass it off to you, or a mail forwarding option, or some other solution.
@John thanks. I need to move out end of September and I would not know the address until probably mid September. Then there is the possibility of the package arriving early (I am actually grateful if the delivery is late, but I don't want to curse the campaign). I am also in the process of switching jobs, so can't put my work address either. This is kind of a stupid situation I accidentally created.
@John (Creator): Glad we got to stop by your booth Sunday at Gen Con and have a quick chat. Nice meeting you, and thanks for showing us the beauty that is the Subatomic Collector's Edition! It definitely looks GREAT! Can't wait to get it in hand and on the table! Thanks again!
@aysp I'll keep the Subatomic pledge manager open as long as possible for address changes - the exact lock down date is somewhat dependent on our freight forwarded. You'll be able to make any addresses changes through August at least. I'll let you all know a more definitive pledge manager lock-down date as soon as I can!
@Creator when is the last day we can change address?
@Will That's awesome - congratulations on your successful Donors Choose! Mind if I shoot you a few questions about it to pick your brain about your experience?
@JKenn Good clarification @Mohammed Thanks Mohammed! Yes, so MPC stands for Mass Production Copy, which is a copy of the game that is put together AFTER all the final game components are printed and manufactured, but BEFORE all the final components have been assembled in each game box. It's critical (and exciting :-) ) to get these MPCs so we could see and review every last detail of a physical copy of Subatomic before all the rest of the copies of Subatomic are assembled in the game boxes.
MPC stands for Mass Production Copy
What on earth does MPC stand for?
FYI: DonorsChoose.org is a great way to get a lot of products into the hands of students. Here is one of my old projects (fully funded) that features some of your products. The DonorsChoose project was called "Recess: A Time to Relax, to Play, and to Learn."
@Stewart Production is progressing smoothly! Sorry for the longer than intended gap between updates, but I'll get the next update posted soon with a bunch of pictures and quick video. REALLY excited to share those with you all.
Been awhile since your last update. Is everything still running on schedule?
I work with nuclear physicists and engineers every day, and so I’m super excited to use this game to help explain my workplace to my son...And also super anxious to get the game home to play with him.
@Meghan Shoot an email to us at email@example.com and we'll see what we can do!!
Is it too late to upgrade my pledge to the Collector’s Edition??
@Jonathan Appreciate you being pro-active about your shipping address! You can check your shipping info by using the pledge manager link below and entering in your Kickstarter email address -
(There's also more info in Backer Updates 9 and 10!)
Where do we go to make sure subatomic has our correct mailing address?
@Lobst5r We are still aiming to begin shipping in Sept! I can't guarantee an exact delivery date, but here's hoping that we can get Subatomic to you in time for your son's birthday! :-)
@Mike, there is an already one called Viral (Dice Tower essential line) it is with virus not microbes.
Hi, John! I wanted to check in to see if the game is still on track for a September shipment. I’m hoping it will arrive end of Sept/first Oct for my son’s birthday, but if not that’s okay. I’ve been backing projects for a few years and I know things might happen so I’m not going to blow up the comments if it doesn’t show up when I want it to, lol
Excited to see what GG does next, we’re slowly building the whole collection. Have a great weekend!
@Mike Thanks, man!! We did have a blast at Origins. AND... area control with microbiome would be so awesome....
I really enjoyed visiting your booth at Origins. Can't wait for your next venture. (Area control w/ microbiome would be a cool idea)
@Sabrina Thanks for being so pro-active with your new address!! Appreciate that. The pledge manager is still unlocked, so you can update your address there. (You can find the pledge manager link in Backer Update #9 OR I also messaged you the link!)
Hello! I wanted to tell you guys that I have moved. How do I change the address for delivery?
@Mike B We will have a copy of Subatomic with us at Origins!
@James V. Kohl Just checked! I did send that Kickstarter message to you on May 11. (If the message still isn't showing up for you - for the mobile app, click on the envelope symbol in the upper left corner to check messages, OR on a desktop, click your profile pic then click the messages line on the left. Hope that helps!)
John Coveyou wrote: @James V. Kohl Sent you a Kickstarter message!
Thanks, but either I do not know how to retrieve it, or it isn't there.
@John Excited to see you again at Origins this year. Will you have any demos of Subatomic available?
@Stella That's awesome! Thanks for sharing! And, I heartily agree with your partner in the video... that is right, science is FUN :-)
Hi @Alan, Thanks. @John, thanks for the tips, the new game board file in PDF works!
I have printed them. We also have made instructional video for Subatomic, as we couldn't really find one with full rules out there, my partner especially is enthusiastic about it, as he is a chemical engineer, he even included a short science lesson to make the game more make sense :)
Please find the link to our YouTube video below. Hope this is helpful, we are going to get our friends to watch before playing it with us!
@Iain In the end, Crowd Ox gave in... many thanks for filling out your survey :-)
@James V. Kohl Sent you a Kickstarter message!
@Lisa V Wohoo! Thanks!!
Yesterday was payday, so now my survey is completed at last. Upgraded to deluxe and added Peptide 😊 Woop!
Same problem as Iain who wrote: "go and shout at crowdox and try to get them to unjam my registered address (and good luck if you opt for that route). "
Hi, backer #3367 here. For reasons best known to them, crowdox hates my email address and refuses to send me surveys or anything else. Please could you either send the survey to firstname.lastname@example.org (not the address registered with KS) or go and shout at crowdox and try to get them to unjam my registered address (and good luck if you opt for that route).
@Chris Thanks :-)
@Christopher Great to hear your initial thoughts!! Here's some answers to your questions...
1. Discarding 1 of 3 identical cards in your hand is optional
2. You may use a card (say the 2 Neutrons/ or 2 Energy) to gain energy tokens for future rounds
3. You can use energy you gain on the same turn that you gain it
4. The Energy Tokens are limited. If people want to house-rule this one and say they are unlimited, I'm totally fine with that :-)
5. You can do the four Main Actions in any order and as many times as you are able
6. The only limit to the number of times you may spend energy to swipe a row or draw an extra card is the amount of energy you have available!
I finished printing out the game and played with my kids. My daughter is 11 and my son will be 9 next month. We read through the rules and started playing. We made a few mistakes and reread the rules for clarification, but we all had a great time and my daughter came away with a very convincing win! However, during play, we came up with a few questions:
1. When you have 3 of the same card in your hand, is discarding 1 optional or mandatory?
2. When you play a card where you get 2 Neutrons OR 2 Energy, is that energy only used to buy new cards, elements & scientists or can you play it and gain 2 energy for future rounds?
3. If you gain energy by any means other than playing a card face down, can you use it during the same turn or is it unavailable until your next turn?
4. Are the Energy Tokens limited? If there aren't any available, are you just out of luck?
5. With the 4 Main Actions, can you do them in any order and as many times as you are able?
6. When you spend 1 Energy to wipe a row or 2 Energy to draw and extra card, is there a limit to the number of times you can do them or is it based on the amount of energy you have available?
I am looking forward to getting the official game!
@John thanks for the info. You are doing great job, so no worries, I can wait :) cheers!
@Michael We will be at Origins this year! We've got a 20x20 (booth #447), so they'll be plenty of space to sit and play. Love to meet you if you care to swing by the booth!
@Chris M I got a bit swamped in emails over the weekend, but I'll respond to your email as soon as I can! Thanks for your patience!!
@Alan @Stella Sorry for the difficulties with printing the PnP! I talked to our graphic designer and she tried a few things with the PnP files and re-uploaded them to the PnP Dropbox folder. If the PnP PDF still won't print for you, she also included JPEGs!
@Stella. Try opening and printing them with microsoft edge instead of adobe.. it worked for me. Thanks Elgaetano for giving me the idea to try printing them in different ways
@ Elgaetano. Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately when I print to pdf the new pdf is totally blank just like the actual prints!
Any chance Genius Games will be at Origins?
Hi @John, I've sent you an email 3 days ago, regarding, availability of science books for kids through the survey.
Looking forward to your answer.
@John. I'm puzzle (and still undecided) with the pricing of the game's bundles. They seem to be full retail price as in Europe you can still find Cytosis for $50 with free postage. Same for the others and Virulence is even a bit cheaper.
So the question is: do I need to order all of them at the same time with subatomic or should I wait when I'll want them. I think they are great games for kids to enjoy and understand the basic of science they start to learn when they are 11-12.
So why not a better deal here cheaper than retail?
@Alan and Stella. Very common problem when people make pdf files from InDesign or AI. It is down to a few possible issues in the original file (which I can't tell since I don't have them).
The best you can already try is to click Print, then "print as Pdf", make a new pdf. Open in Acrobat reader or Acrobat pro and clean up the file of transparencies, links and other hidden stuff. Then print again.
The pdf sent as PnP should have been professionnaly cleaned up of any artefacts.
Hi, I'm having the same problem as Stella. The cards, punchboard, and rules print ok, but the A3 size game board wont print (gives an error message), and the player mats and A4 version of the game board just come out blank???
Hi John, got the PnP files, thank you. I have printed everything but the common board, I have troubles printing it, it seems that it is just printing blank pages. I have tried 2 computers and 2 printers. Any tips how to print correctly please? Can't wait to play your game :)
We are also thinking of doing how to play video for our channel on YouTube. I can send you a private message once it's done.
Stella (Meeple University)
@Stephen We do have teachers across the US using our games in classrooms... AND we're actually working on a curriculum for each of our games right now!
We definitely try to help teachers out when we can - we're sometimes able to give teachers who are using the games in their classroom and paying out of their own pocket a price break. (I know how classroom supplies add up.... craziness.)
I sent you a Kickstarter message about all this - I'd love to chat more and get your feedback if you're interested.
@James Yes! Wanted to make adding our other titles an option in Pledge Manager to give you all a pricing break. You backers take such good care of me and I like to say thanks however I can :-)
@Najve We'll definitely sort it out! Email works well - thanks for sending an email our way!
@All If you have pledge manager questions, email us at email@example.com!
@Najve Maybe there was a miscommunication. In the Cytosis Kickstarter I believe John always said there would never be any more as they were uniquely numbered. And the campaign for this Kickstarter was clear in the description that only the standard Cytosis edition would be in the pledge manager. John has always been great at customer service so I'm sure he'll sort it out, but it's likely you won't be able to get a Collector's edition of Cytosis.
i have sell you an email.... about this problem!
excuse me... but... i tell you that i would buy subatomic collector and cytosis collector. You tell me that i had to pledge subatomic collector + 69$... but in pledge manager: nothing about collector of cytosis! how is it possible??????
@creator I have been trying to come up with a good way to incorporate your games into my wife’s and my classrooms (high school biology and chemistry teachers). Do you know of anyone who has implemented your games into the classroom and how it was done without having to break the bank to get enough sets for the whole class? Thanks for your amazing work and keep the science games coming!