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This is getting ridiculous.
I pop in here every once in a while to see if there are any news (read excuses) to why my console hasn't been shipped.
It's been almost _FOUR YEARS_ since the estimated delivery date
Every time there's something new that's hindering you from sending the last units you supposedly have. If you had the units they would have been shipped already. Please don't treat us (your backers) like we're idiots.
You did an update October 4 2014, posting an image as proof of units you were going to ship and judging by the comment section, some actually got their units. Why can't you post an update now with an image of the " last 20 units" you have to send? How long can that take you?
5-10 minutes tops and just get it out of the way. It would be a lot easier and quicker for you than coming in here trying to defend yourself.
The reason why you're not doing this is because you don't have any units to send.
I was a little hopeful in April when you sent a message to verify my address and then later in August updated with "We are still working on getting the last few units shipped expect update in the next couple of weeks and your tracking number."
Since then I haven't heard anything from you. No updates, messages or tracking number.
So enjoy my $155 pledge. I've given up on this and accepted that I'm not going to get my console.
When do you plan on finishing shipping units? Why don't you just admit that you don't have any units to send?
@Justin Baze I don't have issue if you want to scour the web aka stalk me that is your choice just don't bring things that aren't directly involved with this project here in the comments section. If it doesn't revolve around this project such as the arcade it doesn't belong here unless it is directly linked to this project.
As for Shapeway buttons it has been explained numerous times they are not linked directly to GCW they were designed by a forum member and yes he does like us and support us with his unique designs which provides for better play-ability and enjoyment of the GCW Zero. It is posted on forums and I believe the GCW Zero website where to purchase them if someone wants to buy them.
Finally I explained yesterday even though you don't care about the situation that is going on right now with my family and the fact I have a missing family member. As always I'm committed to finishing this project and shipping the final remaining units to backers and will continue to do so until the last one is shipped.
Something else I'd like to point out to you Justin Barwick is that I promised you that I wouldn't be going anywhere until all Kickstarter units have been sent. You have to admit that I'm one of the few that haven't gone back on my word and left. You first had Pardue come aboard as PR which obviously didn't last. Then you had PR Craig Strother. Craig said that he would be the person of contact for this Kickstarter campaign and I quote, "Thanks to all for bearing with me, I won't stray from this forum, your interests or your concerns." But he did stray.....
I won't be going anywhere and I will scour the web to get any information I possibly can to share with your backers since you feel like you don't have to.
Shame on you Justin Barwick.
Did you ever think that maybe the reason I scour the web for information is because you aren't being honest and open with your backers?
For example, Shapeways is now producing new start and select buttons, along with new analog caps. You should be proud that someone is doing something with the GCW Zero. There should be an official update to share this information but you know if you did post an update you'd have 20+ backers harping on you for not sending their units yet, AS THEY SHOULD.
You'll share information about your missing nephew and then claim that this is the reason why you have been quiet. Well why were you quiet between June 19th and August 2nd? or how about August 28th and October 8th? October 10th and November 10th?
I'm sure you have plenty of excuses, as always! But the fact is that there are 20+ backers still waiting for their GCW Zeros and you aren't shipping them and you refuse to tell anyone why you aren't shipping them.
I hope your nephew is found safe.
You just wrote a long reply back and it didn't have any information regarding the status of you finishing the Kickstarter shipments. Why do you choose to waste your time replying directly back to me when you have backers that are asking questions?
Conspiracy theories? So are you just holding onto the remaining Kickstarter GCW Zeros for fun or am I correct that you don't have any units to send? Why not just be honest with your backers? I know it's not your strong suit but every day is a new day and if you wanted to clear the air, you could tell everyone what is going on. Instead you hide and pop up once in a while to accuse me of making up conspiracy theories.
Why do you choose to treat your backers with such disrespect?
@Justin Baze as much as you try to theorize or come up with conspiracy theories the fact remains your not an active part of GCW nor do you know the inner workings or what is going on. You daily spy on me trying to come up with theories scouring the web for any details you can twist or drum up a conspiracy theory.
Most retailers only buy twenty to forty units at a time at a price that has not changed from the beginning for retailers other then before we had a set price for early adopters that was only time price fluctuated and the last retailer that ever bought 10's of thousands of dollars worth was ThinkGeek before their policies changed when bought by Gamestop and they could no longer carry the GCW Zero.
As for why have I been quite even you should know this as often as you scour the web for information almost stalking my personal life and other businesses. My nephew is missing and other things happened just before that before Thanksgiving with him so I have focused my time trying to find him and praying he is OK and alive.
There must be some big issues at GCW headquarters with this huge lack of communication. I started thinking about something.... I'm assuming I am correct when I say that there are no GCW Zeros to send to backers and that Justin Barwick is waiting for a new batch of retail units because he has already sold the Kickstarter units to retailers. I would assume Barwick is strapped for money because he hasn't been able to purchase a new batch of units from his manufacturer. In the past we know that Barwick has asked retailers to prepay for their units and then he takes their money and they have to wait for their units, sometimes many months longer than expected. Barwick's situation must be more dire than I originally thought. First off, retailers know they can not trust him because he has proven himself a bad businessman after taking THOUSANDS of dollars from other retailers (actually, 10s of thousands.....) and then lying about shipping dates and then demanding a higher price than originally quoted, etc..... He must be having a really hard time trying to get retailers on board for this reason but the other reason might be that the GCW Zero is just not in demand anymore. If the GCW Zero was in demand, why wouldn't Justin Barwick sell them through is own web site and make a much bigger profit? The GCW Zero site still says that we will be able to purchase new units from the site but it has never been offered. If Justin Barwick isn't willing to pony up his own money to sell units on his own site, why would a retailer want to jump on board?
@ Justin Barwick - Any clarification or communication would be appreciated, as always.
@ Justin Barwick - Why do you feel like you don't need to answer your backer's questions?
Everyone is wondering when they will receive their GCW Zero and you refuse to answer. Amazingly, Surkow has been actually doing something with the GCW web site and Facebook. He's still too lazy to remove the dead links to "buy" a GCW Zero on the main site for some reason..... What's another 9 months with broken links eh?
But he did say there would be new units stocked in the UK and US sometime in the future. I have no doubt that you are waiting for those units to be able to finish shipping to backers that are still waiting. I just don't understand why you have to show such disrespect by cowardly withholding information.
There are 19 people but 20 units to be sent as Niklas Freybier is expecting 2. I've counted every person that has said they are still waiting for their unit since April 13, 2016.
On April 13, 2016 Justin Barwick said he had "to date only 22 remain to be shipped with 5 more still floating around the globe in limbo that I know of currently."
If he had units to send, he would send them. I've said it before and I'll say it again.... He has sold all Kickstarter units to retailers and hasn't been able to purchase more. There's not enough interest from retailers for him to purchase his minimum amount required by his manufacturer.
He has a big arcade cabinet collection he could start selling to pay for a new batch? or how about refunds?
We are still waiting here in Germany for our 2 devices :\
Think there might be more than 10-20 left, hmm?
@Christophe - On a lighter note, I appreciated your monthly updates!
Aaand that's six months + since last address confirmation and as I dreaded, another disappointment to add to the long list already
Exactly, "But for few units it must be much more expensive or not allowed"
He's been trying to get vendors on board to stock the GCW Zero. I know for a fact that he had the "game in stock" store signed on and they were waiting for their units for quite some time. They had a link on their page and everything that said it would be stocked soon. Then one day the link was taken down and I emailed to ask if they would be stocking the GCW Zero and they said that they are no longer going to be carrying the GCW Zero because of issues with the manufacturer not delivering.
I am willing to bet that Justin Barwick was trying to find other stores to stock the GCW Zero so that he could get the minimum number of units required to order but wasn't able to. He was probably relying on this new batch to fulfill the final backers that are still waiting. If he had the units in his hands, he would ship them out to the final 10-20 Kickstarter backers.
This scenario makes a lot of sense for multiple reasons. He's always had an issue shipping large numbers of units out in a short period of time. It would make sense that shipments have been delayed because he is always waiting on the next batch. He sells some units to retailers and then sends a few Kickstarter units out. When retailers are ready to restock, he would order more units and repeat.
That's the sad part about all of this. If he was just open and honest, the backers would be way more understanding. It's better to be given bad news than to be given complete silence.
This is just my opinion about the situation. It may not be true but I don't see any other scenario and Justin Barwick doesn't have enough respect to tell us why he hasn't been able to finish this Kickstarter.
>I believe that he has sold all of the remaining units to retailers and can not afford to purchase >minimum amount of units that his manufacturer is requiring.
That's an interesting situation actually. So if it was a thousand or few hundred units it would be ok in massive order. But for few units it must be much more expensive or not allowed? What could one do in that situation?
There are still backers waiting to receive their units. I am still "arguing" with Justin Barwick to be honest about why hasn't been able to finish shipping, as I have all along.
I believe the reason that Justin Barwick hasn't been able to finish shipping is because he doesn't have any more units to ship. I believe that he has sold all of the remaining units to retailers and can not afford to purchase the minimum amount of units that his manufacturer is requiring. I've asked for an explanation multiple times and he has dodged this question time and time again. What other reason could he possibly have for not shipping the few units left?
I've been "arguing" with Justin Barwick for over 3.5 years now. I did receive my unit but I am dissatisfied with how Justin Barwick continues to disrespect his backers. We were all told, "This level of support or above guarantees you one of our first round of consoles shipped" This couldn't have been further from the truth for most of us and to top it off, Justin Barwick refuses to communicate.
I've had multiple people thank me for asking the hard questions and trying to get answers. Talafas just thanked me on November 8th. That person is still waiting and we don't really know how many units are left to ship because Justin Barwick has never been honest when answering. As an example, back in June 21st, 2014 we were told there were only 29 units left to ship.
Please do not worry about me. If you want to worry about someone, worry about your fellow backers that are still waiting for their units. When all units have been shipped, I will stop "arguing".
I am a little confused here. From time to time, I am wondering what's going on with that old project, are people still waiting for the units? Is this case put to rest?
And I enter the comments and it's still some Justin Baze guy arguing about this for two years and the creator not being able to send the last 50 units? If over 1000 units were send what stops them sending the last?
And that guy Justin Baze, how do you find the energy to fight in these threads for two years? Did you got your unit btw?
I don't know, this is surreal, no offense to anyone, but I am wondering why the same song is played for so long and when it would just take to ship 1% of the units and get over with your lives?
I wish this was over so that more energy is spent on the community and releases/drivers.
p.s. I bet I will come here at 2017 or 2018 and the same thing will be happening. I am especially worrying about mr Baze who is just fighting this for two years. That's just crazy dude :)
p.p.s. In other newsflash, maybe NMS and Sean Murray's dissapearence will go on for 2020 :P
Funny that you'll waste your time asking Kickstarter to remove my comments instead of answering questions from your backers.
The GCW Retro-Cade shares the GCW brand with the GCW-Zero. The GCW Retro-Cade opened up right after the Kickstarter campaign. To say they are not related is another lie that Justin Barwick has shared with us all. Like I said, you should sell some arcade cabinets and refund the backers still waiting. Kickstarter can not prove that the arcade was not funded by this Kickstarter and is standing behind Justin Barwick. That's pretty pathetic Kickstarter! Kickstarter does not care that there are still backers waiting almost 4 years later. Nor do they care that Justin Barwick has not been open and honest through this Kickstarter campaign. Justin Barwick is the kind of creator that has given Kickstarter a bad name. Justin Barwick is a liar and a SCAM ARTIST.
"To constitute a scam...." Keep telling your self that Barwick. Here's how to define a scam, :a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit;
Just because you EVENTUALLY ship out units does not mean it is not a scam. There's plenty of evidence of you scamming the retailers where you took their money and then promised shipping dates which you didn't fulfill until MONTHS and MONTHS later. You made a quick profit and then did your thing.
As for the Kickstarter backers, instead of sending them units, you sold them to retailers and now you have nothing to ship. That is a scam. You promised, "This level of support or above guarantees you one of our first round of consoles shipped". This ABSOLUTELY constitutes a scam because this is not true. You scammed these backers by asking them to give you money to get a "first round" of units but instead you made a quick profit and sold their units to retailers. It's been 3 years and almost 8 months. The GCW Zero is dying. There is very little support left as the community has died. Look at the pathetic GCW Zero web site. Do you know how many people go to your web site to "buy" a new unit and see all of the broken links? These links have been broken forever. There are people asking where new units will be available for purchase and when. You don't give any answers.
You are scamming these Kickstarter backers that are still waiting. They deserve answers.
There are backers asking questions and you are refusing to answer them. Can you please give your backers an update on what is going on? You claim to continue shipping units but when was the last time you actually shipped anything?
Respect your backers and give an update as to when they can expect their units! If you can't continue shipping, sell some arcade cabinets and refund these poor people. You've dragged this thing out with very little explanation as to why you can't just ship the remaining units. People are getting fed up and want(DESERVE) answers. We're coming up on 4 years Barwick!
@Justin Baze The Arcade was never funded or had anything to do with this Kickstarter yiu have brought this up before way in the past the Arcade was started with my very own collection of retro games I owned well before this project was even thought of and also 8 months after the Kickstarter Campaign was completed. So please quit bringing up things that have nothing to do with this project.
As for a scam to consitute a scam I would have never shipped one console to anyone or walked away from the project and not continued shipping consoles which I have and will continue to do so.
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When will I receive my console?
This is the first time I write here, as there was no update since april.
I am a very patient person, but please Sir, fulfill your obligations.
I never did recieve my console or even a shipping confirmation. I have confirmed my address multiple times.
Reading the comments and all the disrespect shown to the inital backers just makes me sad getting involved with this project. This has really poisoned the well for honest Kickstarter campaigns...
Justin Blaze I respect you for not giving up asking questions that have to be asked!
Any updates would be appreciated Justin Barwick. You have people asking on Dingoonity about updates to new retail units.
Have you been able to ship any Kickstarter units?
Justin Barwick - You owe your backers an update.
As I've been saying for many months now, if Justin Barwick had units to ship, he would ship them. He's been waiting on a new batch of units for new retailers and for the remaining backers. One of the confirmed retailers was gameinstock.com. They've since removed the GCW Zero link from their web site and when I emailed them to ask why, they told me that they are no longer going to be carrying the GCW Zero because of issues with the manufacturer.
Has anyone had any contact from Justin Barwick?
Has anyone tried sending Justin Barwick a PM? I just sent one asking him for an update after seeing how many recent posts have been made.
me too receive anything :(
I also didn't receive anything but address confirm mails. Still waiting, kind of.
Here's more one without console, I received e-mails to confirm my address, but nothing about the shipping ...
Me too, I never received my console--not even any communication about shipping or whatsoever...
If Justin Barwick had units to ship, he would have shipped them by now. He announced retail units should be coming out soon last month and I believe he is waiting for those units to be able to ship the remaining Kickstarter backer units. The American retailer he mentioned is gameinstock.com. I emailed them to ask the status and this is what they said, "We have some stock on the way. We are currently experiencing an issue with the manufacturer and hope they can clear the matter as soon as possible."
I am willing to bet that when the retail units show up, he will continue shipping the remaining Kickstarter units. I've asked multiple times why he hasn't been able to ship the remaining Kickstarter units and he dodges the question every time. It would be in his best interest to just be honest about what's going on but he'd rather be shady than honest.
Here's another one without console. I never received my console--not even any communication about shipping or whatsoever...
Any plans for providing spare parts to a retailer? There are multiple people asking on Dingoonity
@Natural20 I will look into yours and ship it soon if it has not been shipped.
@Andrew Moeren Your console was shipped and I have sent you verifiable proof if for some reason customs rejected the console on your end I have never received it back.
Same here, never had any communication about my console. I'm really disappointed to be honest.
Well I've still not received mine and it's almost 2017.
Vendors should NOT have been able to buy stock until after all the backers have been supplied. I'm close to pursuing this through my credit card company.
Happy October 2016 where there are still Kickstarter backers that have been waiting for over 3 and a half years. Any updates to share? You've decided to share more information with Dingoonity. Are you still expecting to stock retailers soon? Is that American retailer Games In Stock.com? Are you waiting until you get that shipment to ship the remaining Kickstarter units?
How about you be honest and tell your backers why it takes SO LONG to ship SO FEW units?
Barwick just announced that there will be 40 units for sale through an American vendor soon and another 40 through a UK vendor after on Dingoonity.
Why haven't you been able to ship the remaining Kickstarter units or even post an official update to inform your backers of any issues you might be having?
Justin, I just read your comment from earlier this year:
"Taran Montaperto has had a console shipped twice both times it was lost by postal service and one is in limbo on it's return"
You know this is incorrect. It was shipped once, and Australia Post stated it was returned.
You have so far failed to provide me with an update or a new shipping number.
You had multiple backers ask for an update because you still haven't finished shipping KS units. Instead of answering them, you'll respond to comments I made. I didn't ask you any questions. My comments are solid and there's proof backing them off whether you like it or not. How about you ship KS units instead of wasting your time replying to my facts? I'm sure you would ship the rest of the units if you had them to ship. I'm sorry but by now, there is NO OTHER LOGICAL REASON why you haven't been able to finish shipping a "few" more units.
The exact quote was as follows:
Anonymous: Have you guys just officially given up on video out?
August 23 at 10:50pm
GCW Zero: GCW Zero As development depends on volunteers who use their spare time for development, it might only happen after the current firmware re-architecture is finished. You can follow development at https://github.com/gcwnow .
You have brought up on numerous occasions nothing is being done when in fact commits are being done all the time https://github.com/gcwnow/linux/branches
We could make a driver for HDMI that might work on 1 of of every ten tv's capable of HDMI but without a KMS driver it will never work for all tv's so yes it will require special work and dedication as do the other areas being worked on currently.
Here is from your second quote please follow the link for the whole statement: http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/why-gcw-zero-does-not-yet-function-hdmi-out-and-usb-otg/msg149574/#msg149574
As I have stated in the past it is no secret you have a distaste for GCW and have tried to stir the pot on numerous occasions. For something to be dead no work or demand for the product would have to exist PCSX just came out and an update for FCEUX etc. http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-releases/
Regarding video-out, here is the latest statement from the GCW Zero Facebook, "As development depends on volunteers who use their spare time for development, it might only happen after the current firmware re-architecture is finished."
Here is the latest statement from Dingoonity, "If you want people to work on HDMI and tv-out you'll have to find a developer with enough spare time to write a KMS driver."
We have Barwick telling us that video out will happen yet the developers are saying they are not working on it, "it might happen" and that we'll have to find our own developer to write a new driver.
In the meantime, there are no retailers selling new units, the GCW Zero "Buy" page is still full of broken links, we've passed the 2 year anniversary for the last firmware update and there are still Kickstarter units that need to be sent from over 3.5 years ago.... The GCW Zero is on a downward spiral.
Here is a great quote from a volunteer to put us "backers" in our place, "Many volunteer developers feel alienated due to the expectation they are obligated to deliver. In reality, they don't have any obligation whatsoever to any of the people buying the devices (you pay for the hardware, you don't pay for development)."
If there are any new retailers, I would hope that they include the above quote and that they aren't advertising video out or USB because it is false advertising.
still waiting for progress...
So what's going on here?
@Justin Barwick, you wanted to double check my address back in April. Since then I haven't heard anything.
@Justin Barwick - As per usual, you missed another promised shipping date without explanation or apologies. Nice that you can finally show up 20 days past that date to say something or ANYTHING.
As for my "outlandish" remarks, I'm sticking with everything I've said. You are a liar and you've proven it multiple times. It doesn't matter what you say, I don't believe you and neither do most of these backers.
The PSX emulator was released after November 20016? Damn dude, that's pretty far in the future. Oh wait, did you mean 2016? Still in the future. You can't even proof your pathetic responses and you expect anyone to believe anything you have to say?
The GCW Zero won't be around much longer. It's a 4 year old device and you've royally screwed it up by lying to backers and retailers. You say something is going to happen and then it doesn't happen, time after time. The quality of the GCW Zero has gone down over time and that includes the crappy button situation but it starts at the top with you not being able to follow through with what you say or being able to supply retailers with new units or even spare parts. You've failed your own community which dwindles more and more every day because of your actions.
@Justin Baze As per usual you make outlandish remarks with no concrete evidence to back them conspiracies without facts are just that theories with no merit. The last consoles sold were in late April by retailers and the GCW Zero is not dying there are still very much in demand.
As I have stated about Willgoo on Dingoonity no deal was ever arrived at so them taking pre-orders is a moot point. We have a new reseller in America and it will be announced soon.
A few units had dust under the screen which can occur as it is not a completely sealed unit no used unit has ever been supplied to a retailer nor will there ever be one.
Please stop spreading these conspiracies with no facts or proof. Spare parts have been supplied to retailers for resale and more will be and end users at request such as the membrane and batteries at cost of parts and shipping and some cases as warranty sent to a person if they don't want to ship it in and do it themselves.
All actual firmware updates being committed on are in a private section of the github such as the PSX Emulator also which was released after November 20016.
As for answer to your first question yes a few remain to be shipped and I'm working to get those shipped very shortly.
Justin Barwick refuses to even answer any questions about why he hasn't been able to ship the remaining Kickstarter units. He set a goal of July 15th which he did log in that day but didn't bother to explain anything. I doubt he will respond to any questions about anything.
As for firmware, we are close to 2 years without an update to the Firmware. We've been told to look at the GCW Zero GitHub page to show progress. There has only been 1 update to the GitHub page in the last year, it was from November. The only thing in my eyes left to work on is the video out and the USB support but the current developers do not have the time or skill to work on them. The GCW Zero is losing it's appeal every day since the device is 4 years old. GCW has been unable to supply vendors with units for MANY MANY months. Dingoonity is very very slow through the GCW Zero section. The last major news item was the release of the Playstation emulator. We were promised that we would be able to buy replacement parts but that dried up pretty quick. We can still purchase after market buttons to MOD units ourselves but we can't buy parts if something breaks.
I can't give any definitive answers to if or when the next firmware update will happen, but I don't see why someone would waste time working on the firmware when so few people will enjoy it especially if there are no more retail units for anyone to buy. The GCW Zero has been on "presale" through sites like Amazon and Willgoo for many many months. Some retailers won't work with GCW anymore for reasons like dirty units pawned off as brand new clean units and lying about when to expect shipments. The GCW Zero is almost dead and there isn't much proof to show otherwise.
I would also like news on a firmware update.
I was really excited about the project. The hardware is really good, with some of the best SNES emulation ever. I still use my GCW-Zero, which was one of the earlier-shipped US units, once in a while.
If anyone is still looking at this comment section, are there any firmware updates beyond what's mentioned on the (official?) website at gcw-zero.com? It seems like there have been no updates for years. I hope I'm just not looking in the right places. Please share if there's somewhere else to go.