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Production / Budget-Friendly Stand / Labelling / IP Rating - IP65 / Bluetooth Specs / What’s Next

Posted by Frankenspiel Ltd. (Creator)
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Coming soon to a warehouse near you, hundreds of FS-X speakers!

We’re getting very excited to send you your FS-Xs. You may remember that we plan to bulk ship from China to warehouses in Hong Kong, Holland, UK and the US. From there the FS-Xs will be delivered to your individual destinations. As we speak, our team is preparing the warehouses from where your orders will be fulfilled.

Production

Sadly we’ve got another slight delay, this time with our production partner. They are very busy in the run-up to Christmas, working with many other products of other manufacturers and have had to put our production back a few days. Slotting us in isn’t as simple as it was in the summer, so we are now planned for the first week of October. This is another consequence of the technical problem that delayed our production date, we have to put our hand up on this, we can’t blame our production partner.

However, in brighter news, we have no more tech problems. Hooray! 

Budget-Friendly Stand

We know some of you in past comments have mentioned making a stand with a thread, clamp, or something similar. We’ve been using a low budget stand which works with suction-pads. Its very simple, works very well with the FS-X’s very smooth surface, and because of the second suction-pad at the bottom you can attach it to any smooth surface. It will be available in black (plastic) only. Please let us know in the comments section if you think this is interesting.

Labelling

We understand that some of you are anxious about the labelling on the box which will be used to deliver to you.

We will be taking care of import duty during the bulk import phase. The exception is Hong Kong, from where we will ship to backers in Asia and Australasia. We have no choice but to ship directly from the Hong Kong warehouse to these backers’ address.

All we can say is that we have individually noted everyone’s concerns and we will do all we can to ensure no problems occur.

IP Rating - IP65

One non-acoustic feature we can confirm is the IP rating.

The IP Code, International Protection Marking, classifies and rates the degree of protection provided against the intrusion of dust and water. The standard aims to provide users more detailed information. The digits (characteristic numerals) indicate conformity with certain conditions.

We have previously confirmed that the FS-X (subject to final tests carried out on the production models) would be rated at either IP64 or IP65.

In all the upheavals (because of the delay and other issues) we put it to one side, and kind of left it there, and it was just a few days ago we realized we still needed to publish the number. We can now proudly confirm that the FS-X is rated at IP65!

This means that it is totally protected against dust and protected against low pressure jets of water from all directions. (Usual warning though - this does not mean you can immerse your FS-X in water, or play it under the shower.)

Bluetooth Specs

We still want to keep the final acoustic specs under wraps (all will be revealed), but here are your final Bluetooth specs:

Bluetooth 4.0

Bluetooth 3.0 With EDR Enhanced Data Rate specifically for higher audio bandwidth.

Low-latency audio – Stereo mode < 1 millisecond (synchronised stereo)

Low-power consumption

What’s Next

  • We will be issuing the full, final acoustic specs in the next update.
  • We will post a video showing stereo operation and pairing.
  • We will be providing you with delivery dates for your country.
  • We will give you a final chance to change your address in consideration to the final delivery dates.

So don’t forget, there’s still time to change your address if you need to! Please refer to Update #43 for instructions on how to do this.

All the best,

The Frankenspiel Team

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    1. Lee Gibson on

      I have some camera mounts I can use which will allow me to use a camera tripod. Much more along the lines of what I want the speaker pair for and much less liable to go for a walk with an audience.

    2. Alvin Wong Kee Choong on

      The stands look a bit flimsy even with suction caps, as its standing on thin strips of plastic. Could you show any videos of the stands played in high volume if they will shake? I believe stability is one of the main features required of stands, who knows it might wobble and break given a stress test in loud volume over a period of time. Is the material of the stand also heat sensitive? Think some questions if it can be used in the car, i have had experience with car gps stands which I thought are pretty solid crack from prolonged sunshine, i live in a sunny climate all year round, food for thought!

    3. Marsha Tyszler
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      on

      @Frankenspiel, great news on all fronts!

      A matter of a few more days in the delivery timetable isn't a huge deal in the scheme of everything. But like one poster said below, make certain that the deliveries to Japan and Australia will be tracked from start to finish. I've seen the problem he mentioned with other campaigns. I suspect that those campaigns did it to save money, didn't know that extra steps needed to be taken to track shipments for certain countries, or didn't carry out those steps correctly, but then there's no proof of delivery (which means anyone from those countries can claim their shipment didn't arrive, and you won't know who's telling the truth or trying to take advantage) and leaves those backers who can't track their expensive items nervous and angry. I suggest you speak with the Chinese mail carrier, as well as Japan and Australia's carriers, in order to make certain that everything is done correctly.

      The stand looks like it could work, and it certainly looks nice when the speaker is attached! With suction cups, I would think these stands would hold firmly in any spot without moisture -- the bathroom or moist outdoor climates may pose an issue, but it should do quite nicely for most general uses. Do you think this stand could be mounted on a car's dashboard and/or windshield? Maybe you can give both a try and let us know. If it'll stick firmly in a moving car, that'd be an added awesome use AND boost backers confidence in its ability to hold the FS-X in place in most cases. By the way, for the doubters, let's not forget that there are many smooth surfaces around us, even outdoors like picnic tables, windows, coolers, beach/lawn chairs, etc. I know some people might want to use this as a monitor, and even then, you can find where to stick it using items in your practice/performance space like a tall bar stool or tall cocktail table, positioning your hard-shelled guitar case vertically, and other creative possibilities. I know many backers hoped for a thread, but as I think about it more, the smooth surface is less limiting. You can even buy those non-damaging 3M Command strips/products (http://m.command.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/CommandMobileNA/Home/Products/) that'll allow you to attach the FS-X in a secure manner (FYI, they apparently make special adhesive tabs for the shower and outdoors). I used to want the thread at the start of the campaign, but seeing Frankenspiel's solution has allowed me to consider that having a thread would actually limit the mounting possibilities considerably; if there were a hole in the FS-X's casing, the aforementioned and many other mounting options that require a flat surface would not be possible.

      @ttan all of the listed Bluetooth technology will be integrated! Frankenspiel should correct me if I'm explaining it wrong, but I'll try to give you an example. Let's say you brought your FS-X to the park and are streaming music via your smartphone's cellular Internet connection. When the FS-X recognizes that your phone is streaming lower bandwidth with decreased audio quality, then Bluetooth LE/4.0 will automatically engage to help save your cell's battery (and perhaps even the FS-X's battery, but that's just my guess). However, when you get back home to your high speed wifi connection, there's a lot more bandwidth. So when you begin streaming a much higher quality music stream at home, the FS-X will automatically recognize this and will switch to using BT 3.0, which is able to deliver even better sound. Many music developers are starting to integrate both Bluetooth technologies so as to reap both's benefits. There's a lot of info on the net that explains the benefits of and differences between both. I really watered down my example, but there's a ton more to it -- it's interesting to read about!

    4. Callum Pinches on

      A really neat little stand that should do the job brilliantly !!

    5. Oon CK on

      Positive update as the speaker has passed all the test ! For shipping, great that creator is listening to our feedback. For shipping from HK warehouse, I hope it is trackable as a lot of backers for another kickstarter project (PowerUp 3.0) was very disappointed with the shipping from HK as it was not trackable beyond a certain point and some of the backers still have not gotten their reward and the actual product is already out in the market. I hope this is not the case for Frankenspiel. I almost gave up but it did arrived at my door step after about 45 days from the day I got a shipping notice !

    6. JB on

      Thanks for the update! Stands look great. Please include one for every unit we've pledged for :)

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      ttan on

      Am a little confused with the bluetooth specs.
      Does FS-X have both BT4.0 and BT3.0 in one unit?
      Thanks.

    8. Jay on

      @Creator the stands look awesome. Do they change the acoustics of the speakers? I'm thinking of those speakers you can buy that use the surface they're placed on to amplify the sound. My (uneducated & uninformed) guess would be that having the speakers placed directly on a desk would (slightly?) increase the bass response, but this is pure speculation, hence the question =)

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      Colin Ainley on

      Yes, stands look interesting. May be interested in purchasing a pair. Good luck with the revised plan.

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      Barry Bourne on

      Shame about the delay but looking forward to hearing the speakers in the flesh. How do I get my hands on them there stands?

    11. Gerhard P.W. on

      Another Delay, hope to get them at Xmas! ;) I don't need such a Stand with this Constitution. Bye Gerhard

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      Craig Trickett on

      Care to share the idea @Lee Gibson? In truth the key reason for me wanting a stand was for outdoor use in the garden to save it getting damaged.

      These look cool though so for indoor I'm interested

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      Craig Trickett on

      So a steamy bathroom should be fine... Just make sure it's not directly under any water. That's good enough for any use I can think of.

      God knows what these would sound like underwater lol

    14. Lee Gibson on

      I understand why they are using suckers but if I wanted a stand I'd definitely prefer a camera mount connected to it. I'll devise my own as I think I know just the right mount.

    15. bazpoint on

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code

      ...the way I look at this is "it should survive a sudden rain shower or a spilt drink just fine, but if you see that it's getting wet, don't jut sit there and let the situation continue. And don't drop it in the bath!"

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      Craig Trickett on

      Thanks for the update @creator. The stands look great to me. I would imagine some sort of screw fix would inspire more confidence but if.you say it holds it firmly using suction then I'm a believer.

      One question though, regarding the ip65 rating you say it can withstand jets of water from all angles, but cannot be used under a shower... I don't plan to use it under the water but would like clarification before I break it by being an idiot

      Thanks again.

    17. Peter J on

      ...is it adjustable in anyway? Tilt/Pan?

    18. Peter J on

      +1 for the stands - I backed a pair of the FS-X so need a pair of stands.

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      Roland on

      I currently have a pasce minirig battery operated subwoofer and was wondering if I pass the audio signal through it and connect to one fs-x that's paired with another unit in stereo Bluetooth mode won't the timing of the bass frequency's be out if sync? FYI the pasce minirig sub has a low/high pass thru input/output 3.5 mm jacks. What kind of input/output will your new mini sub have so that it will work with the fs-x's??

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      Sanjay Pandit on

      How do you order the stands?

    21. Michael Schaefer on

      how to get them stands? they look fine!

    22. bazpoint on

      Stands look sweet... could definitely be tempted by a pair if they're not too pricey

    23. Michael Carr on

      I like the speaker stands. How can we get them ?