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Bsl100- I’ll power up my set and retest them. Last time I used them the issue of dropped connection happened more when the charge was low...definitely still prototype stability but so much to like otherwise.
Meanwhile, get this! I showed off the prototypes to a friend of mine who directly ordered a set himself even though I warned him that there could still be project failure and definitely more delay. He didn’t purchase through crowdsourcing but directly. Since nothing was delivered, he has filed a grievance with American Express. I’ve asked him now to send me the various emails he’s been getting from the creator begging him to not proceed with a credit reversal. Allegedly, these messages state that he hopes to provide a refund directly on his own and somehow to make everyone whole. It’s laughable. But when I get ahold of those emails oh I’ll post them here to enjoy with some popcorn since that’s all we’re ever going to get out of vaporspiel.
I've not backed another Kickstarter project, they have no control and are just brokers taking a cut. Pretty sure their income must be massively down.
Was just thinking about this project and decided to check in. Looks like nothing's changed :(
Has this project finally died a death?
I Like @James have commenced legal action against David Archer personally, I will keep you all updated.
I can agree with bsl, though I've never heard them. The idea of a custom high-range speaker like this which works in bridged stereo is great.
But, it was probably finally killed off by the endless proliferation of me-too speakers and, now, smart speakers which support Alexa and the like. When they realized they couldn't sell it to much of anyone outside of the campaign, that probably put the nail in the coffin after the weird dalliance to, probably, make it work with some online system.
Still, in some wacky way we'll always have the campaign and the wild rollercoaster ride.
The most frustrating part was that I held off getting a speaker with the hope that someday this would ship. Finally, a few weeks ago, I backed the Aviox 20. It might not be quite as nice, but I'm pretty sure they'll ship in March.
This KS, though, is one of a couple that made me back a lot fewer projects in the past year. I was surprised to look back. Just some Dwarven Forge tiles, a few games, and some books (such as the excellent Draw Like A Boss). It's taught me not to go after pipe dreams as much and to research the companies more.
One of these days one of the bigger scam companies on here will get caught and we'll be able to say we were part of that, watching it unfold. Sure, they got a hundred bucks, but we got tickets to a bizarre freak show. Like Frakenspeil.
To this day, if he'd just ship -something- I think all would be forgiven. But likely he couldn't even afford the shipping even if he had 1,000 of these lying around his garage. And might be scared of someone tracking him down. That must be a hard thing to live with if you really cared about it and stuck your own neck out.
Just an update. Kickstarter made a shit ton of money from this and other projects that failed. They are both scam artists and deserve a swift kick up the arse. Disgraceful and dishonest. Sort your shit out.
Hello John H and fellow backers. I got an email regarding Mikel Larrea’s post amd was reminded about this painful campaign all over again.
I pulled out the review samples out of the attic and charged them. If you recall, I had reviewed the FS-X pair and had noted how smooth they had sounded. As I had mentioned, one of my samples cannot play at max normal volumes as it keeps cutting off. So, I reduced the volume about 3-4 notches on my cell phone and played some music on the pair.
In dual mode, the FS-C really shine and I keep wondering ‘what if’ ? These would have been ideal to take on your travels or for small gatherings in your backyard for background music. Their sound quality are like mini studio monitors.
Speaker tech has really progressed in the past few years. Almost all speakers now have true wireless stereo. The FS-X would have been one of first and would have had a real ‘KICKSTART’ compared to the rest. Really sad that David ran out funds and trustworthy suppliers. Maybe David did not have a technical team in place and just depended on suppliers from China. Really sad.
How are your updated FS-X pair faring John H ?
I still want those speakers....please some kind of update! Are you still working on it?
maybe this serves as a precedent
Typical reply from Kickstarter. They wrote "we expect and encourage creators to be honest with their backers about project delays when they arise."
Really? that's their expectation, is it? And who cares if such expectations are not backed by any real consequences? No one, of course.
Here's the reply from Kickstarter:
Jan 19, 2:59 PM EST
Thanks for following up, and sorry to hear that backing this project has turned into a frustrating experience for you. Kickstarter’s mission is to help support creative freedom and independence. Our site operates on a system of trust – we expect and encourage creators to be honest with their backers about project delays when they arise. While we provide a platform for creators to fund their projects, we don’t step into the actual creative process itself or manage the fulfillment and shipment of rewards.
We hope that helps to answer your question. Please let us know if we can help with anything else in the meantime.
In other words "not our problem"
I have not received my reward. Please refund.
"Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
I demand a full refund for my pledge amount.
Totally crazy. What happened here?! I’d also like to know if any of my fellow Bringrr backers (https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/backings/19223199) are here too. If you guys think this project has been a crazy ride, have a looksie at my comments in the Bringrr page to get a sense of what the heck happened ( . . . or rather, has NOT happened, lol) to that project. It was about to begin production, the CEO ran away and another staff member took over as CEO (we had no information about him and likely was not qualified to lead a company), he claimed the old CEO stole our funds, he totally redesigned the product without our permission (or I should say supposedly redesigned — we never saw any proof of his work beyond a few CAD files), he claimed to raise some money from an external source, we occasionally heard a load of bull from him when I spoke up along with some others, and then poof, nothing! That’s the short of it. That campaign was also launched in 2014. I’d like to know where Kickstarter is and why they haven’t come to support backers from two campaigns that clearly broke the KS TOS on many levels. Kickstarter should hold these campaigns liable and give us refunds!
I sent this to Kickstarter as a last attempt to get some closure:
Hi, I backed Frankenspiel FS-X Speaker 4 years ago.
We have had various promises and outright lies from the creator but now have had no response from the creator for over a year.
Please can you declare this project officially cancelled?
You've said you will reach out to the creator several times and this project has been reported by many Backers over the years, with no results.
How long can this continue?
It's time to officially put us out of our misery so we can all move on.
Kickstarter owes us that much at the very least.
Please do not fob me off with the usual stock email; I've already got three of them!
I'll post their reply, if they bother.
Feel that this project is died & they ran away as I saw the last update was January 2017 & no update to the backer... Really wish the project owner 'brave up' and tell the backer what actually has happened...
Is it too late to ask for a refund?!
Hi everyone, Just wanted to wish you all a Merry Christmas.
I'll check back in again for Christmas 2018 as I'm sure we will still be waiting then :-)
Am thinking this project is truly dead in the water by now. Never ever going to see my money back.
What a greedy little bugger of a Creator here, too. All along.
It’s obvious he long ago ran out of cash...
But there were several of us who probably would have invested in this 2-3 years ago. I guess I’m grateful none of us did that: we’d have lost even more $. But part of me thinks with sone additional backer $ and know-how, this could have been salvaged. David Archer: the old refrain is “better to be a part of something than to have a whole lot of nothing.”
So many Backers here are just plumb brilliant at what they do. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all: you are hands down some of the funniest/wittiest Backers in the Kickstarter community and we all deserved MUCH better treatment from the Creator and especially Kickstarter.
Fuck this Frankenspiel
Frankenspiel FS-X: the Bluetooth speaker that can't!
Yeah this is dead... Mark this as yet another reason I don't back on kickstarter or any crowd source anymore.
Dear KS Creator,
Due to the missed deadline of this project I supported, my address in your system is no longer valid.
Please update and ship reward to the address I sent you in Messages some time ago with no confirmation yet. I look forward to a response.
Any news ?
I'm genuinely wondering if the guy is still alive!
That's not his real company address, that's what I would term as a front.
We should go back to the old Celtic traditions, where the people you have wronged stand outside and don't eat, the trick being that under the old Celtic law neither can he!
You always can call uncle David:
'David Edward Archer is a director at Frankenspiel Limited. Born in October 1941 this British national has worked as the "company director" at Frankenspiel Limited since 2014-01-20 when Archer was appointed for the position. 14 filings can be located referencing Archer, including the 3 pages long document of the annual return category filed on 2016-05-16 and the 2 pages long file of the officers "change" category filed on 2016-05-13. The abovementioned officer filled 2 positions so far. David Edward is currently managing Frankenspiel Limited, company number 08852875, a company based in England, which can be found at Temperance House Langdon Lane, Radway, CV35 0UQ, Warwick.'
Worst thing is Kickstarter doesn't care. They do nothing, they say nothing. They're just happy to be a platform for scammers and take their part of the cake for doing so.
"1,083 backers pledged £84,768 to help bring this project to life."
No, 1,083 backers pledged £84,768 to help kickstarter and David Archer earn money scamming people.
Creator last logged in on 24 May 2017, so I would assume this is now well and truly dead.
Is this thing truly dead?
Hi All - think about it... the last update from Frankensteal back in January ended with the following, "We know we have damaged our reputation and we need to make amends. But this project will not run into a 3rd year."
Of course, he meant "will not run into a 4th year" (ah David Archer... my how slowly you must age). That 3rd year of delay ended in May 2017: so here we are in that 4th year of delay... David states that the project will not run into a 3rd (ahem 4th) year: and by letting us all F off as he has, he clearly is finally honoring his own BS. Namely that this project WILL NOT RUN into yet another year of delay because he has killed off this project.
So - How do we proceed with legal actions?
Thanks Marcus - I did NOT back Gigaboom. Too expensive, as well.
I would love it if someone found David Archer and did a "Man on the Street" interview of him.
@John H. Halpern
The Gigaboom speaker is at least to some parts bullshit. They seem to be claiming to defy fundamental laws of physics, but it's hard to tell, because the text is just incorrect (like wrong/missing units). Expect the delivered product to be vastly inferior to the promised one, if they ever deliver.
If someone runs down what to put, I'm guessing Kickstarter backers cannot claim?
I believe anyone can report a fraud against a UK company through action fraud and I recommend you do.
Maybe for Christmas David will issue his 2nd update of the year. Where are the Backers who defended him now?
I don't understand why kickstart don't do any thing against that fraud funding. we don't have any choice about that? is it right?
Is actionfraud are only for UK based pledger, or anyone around the word can join on this?
I would love to see David fulfill his promises of returning our money back, however small the chance might be.
I feel sorry for whoever pledged £1000 for the VIP pack.
@John. This campaign has taught me that I didn't properly understand the risks of electronic consumer good crowd funding campaigns so I steer clear of them now.
I'll join the reporting. What is the recommended plan here? Let's show David how to be organised...
@John: Crikey. That is definitely a speaker! Not sure about the "portable" aspect, though... "transportable", maybe! ;o)
@James @Adrian - There seems to be a few ways to report the issue on that site. What path did you choose? Fraud and Cyber Crime / Online scams or viruses? Probably better if everyone went the same way.
@John, To expensive for me but it might come in useful to have a speaker that you could use to beat a medium sized hippo to death.
what do people feel about the following new portable speaker project on KS:
By SOS PowerBank
Gigaboom & Macro.II - Hi-Def Speakers Built for the Wild
I have also reported a complaint on actionfraud, I urge people to do the same. We have video evidence of the suspect as well as previous addresses etc. We will get justice
@Gareth Evans and @Rob Vonk it very much is fraud, David continued to trade while insolvent for one. He also took pre-orders of speakers well after knowing he would never deliver them. Frankenspiel also took monies for cables and other add on when again he knew he was not shipping. I mentioned Actionfraud nearly two years ago when this was dead in the water, but i don't think backers wanted to believe it was actually over. he has definatly been fraudulent and we should all report it, but we should get a collective together first. If i am being honest, I like many others would have been happy with just a "i am sorry the project failed" but he didn't.