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I sent this to Kickstarter as a last attempt to get some closure:
Hi, I backed Frankenspiel FS-X Speaker 4 years ago.
We have had various promises and outright lies from the creator but now have had no response from the creator for over a year.
Please can you declare this project officially cancelled?
You've said you will reach out to the creator several times and this project has been reported by many Backers over the years, with no results.
How long can this continue?
It's time to officially put us out of our misery so we can all move on.
Kickstarter owes us that much at the very least.
Please do not fob me off with the usual stock email; I've already got three of them!
I'll post their reply, if they bother.
Feel that this project is died & they ran away as I saw the last update was January 2017 & no update to the backer... Really wish the project owner 'brave up' and tell the backer what actually has happened...
Is it too late to ask for a refund?!
Hi everyone, Just wanted to wish you all a Merry Christmas.
I'll check back in again for Christmas 2018 as I'm sure we will still be waiting then :-)
Am thinking this project is truly dead in the water by now. Never ever going to see my money back.
What a greedy little bugger of a Creator here, too. All along.
It’s obvious he long ago ran out of cash...
But there were several of us who probably would have invested in this 2-3 years ago. I guess I’m grateful none of us did that: we’d have lost even more $. But part of me thinks with sone additional backer $ and know-how, this could have been salvaged. David Archer: the old refrain is “better to be a part of something than to have a whole lot of nothing.”
So many Backers here are just plumb brilliant at what they do. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all: you are hands down some of the funniest/wittiest Backers in the Kickstarter community and we all deserved MUCH better treatment from the Creator and especially Kickstarter.
Fuck this Frankenspiel
Frankenspiel FS-X: the Bluetooth speaker that can't!
Yeah this is dead... Mark this as yet another reason I don't back on kickstarter or any crowd source anymore.
Dear KS Creator,
Due to the missed deadline of this project I supported, my address in your system is no longer valid.
Please update and ship reward to the address I sent you in Messages some time ago with no confirmation yet. I look forward to a response.
Any news ?
I'm genuinely wondering if the guy is still alive!
That's not his real company address, that's what I would term as a front.
We should go back to the old Celtic traditions, where the people you have wronged stand outside and don't eat, the trick being that under the old Celtic law neither can he!
You always can call uncle David:
'David Edward Archer is a director at Frankenspiel Limited. Born in October 1941 this British national has worked as the "company director" at Frankenspiel Limited since 2014-01-20 when Archer was appointed for the position. 14 filings can be located referencing Archer, including the 3 pages long document of the annual return category filed on 2016-05-16 and the 2 pages long file of the officers "change" category filed on 2016-05-13. The abovementioned officer filled 2 positions so far. David Edward is currently managing Frankenspiel Limited, company number 08852875, a company based in England, which can be found at Temperance House Langdon Lane, Radway, CV35 0UQ, Warwick.'
Worst thing is Kickstarter doesn't care. They do nothing, they say nothing. They're just happy to be a platform for scammers and take their part of the cake for doing so.
"1,083 backers pledged £84,768 to help bring this project to life."
No, 1,083 backers pledged £84,768 to help kickstarter and David Archer earn money scamming people.
Creator last logged in on 24 May 2017, so I would assume this is now well and truly dead.
Is this thing truly dead?
Hi All - think about it... the last update from Frankensteal back in January ended with the following, "We know we have damaged our reputation and we need to make amends. But this project will not run into a 3rd year."
Of course, he meant "will not run into a 4th year" (ah David Archer... my how slowly you must age). That 3rd year of delay ended in May 2017: so here we are in that 4th year of delay... David states that the project will not run into a 3rd (ahem 4th) year: and by letting us all F off as he has, he clearly is finally honoring his own BS. Namely that this project WILL NOT RUN into yet another year of delay because he has killed off this project.
So - How do we proceed with legal actions?
Thanks Marcus - I did NOT back Gigaboom. Too expensive, as well.
I would love it if someone found David Archer and did a "Man on the Street" interview of him.
@John H. Halpern
The Gigaboom speaker is at least to some parts bullshit. They seem to be claiming to defy fundamental laws of physics, but it's hard to tell, because the text is just incorrect (like wrong/missing units). Expect the delivered product to be vastly inferior to the promised one, if they ever deliver.
If someone runs down what to put, I'm guessing Kickstarter backers cannot claim?
I believe anyone can report a fraud against a UK company through action fraud and I recommend you do.
Maybe for Christmas David will issue his 2nd update of the year. Where are the Backers who defended him now?
I don't understand why kickstart don't do any thing against that fraud funding. we don't have any choice about that? is it right?
Is actionfraud are only for UK based pledger, or anyone around the word can join on this?
I would love to see David fulfill his promises of returning our money back, however small the chance might be.
I feel sorry for whoever pledged £1000 for the VIP pack.
@John. This campaign has taught me that I didn't properly understand the risks of electronic consumer good crowd funding campaigns so I steer clear of them now.
I'll join the reporting. What is the recommended plan here? Let's show David how to be organised...
@John: Crikey. That is definitely a speaker! Not sure about the "portable" aspect, though... "transportable", maybe! ;o)
@James @Adrian - There seems to be a few ways to report the issue on that site. What path did you choose? Fraud and Cyber Crime / Online scams or viruses? Probably better if everyone went the same way.
@John, To expensive for me but it might come in useful to have a speaker that you could use to beat a medium sized hippo to death.
what do people feel about the following new portable speaker project on KS:
By SOS PowerBank
Gigaboom & Macro.II - Hi-Def Speakers Built for the Wild
I have also reported a complaint on actionfraud, I urge people to do the same. We have video evidence of the suspect as well as previous addresses etc. We will get justice
@Gareth Evans and @Rob Vonk it very much is fraud, David continued to trade while insolvent for one. He also took pre-orders of speakers well after knowing he would never deliver them. Frankenspiel also took monies for cables and other add on when again he knew he was not shipping. I mentioned Actionfraud nearly two years ago when this was dead in the water, but i don't think backers wanted to believe it was actually over. he has definatly been fraudulent and we should all report it, but we should get a collective together first. If i am being honest, I like many others would have been happy with just a "i am sorry the project failed" but he didn't.
Not sure but the fraud was committed in the U.K. so I would presume so?
@Gareth that's a good idea. Is that also possible for the people outside the UK?
Seeing as it is now beyond doubt (if any was left) has anyone thought of perhaps reporting this via ActionFraud? Www.actionfraud.police.uk I'm certain there is likely some element of the fraud act that could be attributed to the actions of Frankespeil/Company directors in this matter. City of London police just jailed a guy for boiler room fraud after 9 complaints on action fraud. We could make hundreds?
If units of time were defined by David Archer's concept of "soon"...a thousand years would drift on by and still that would be soon! This ain't happening. Best group of Backers here to get ripped off by a creator.
still here, but not that hopefull
Hello? Anyone still here?
I don't expect I'll ever see my speakers (or get my money back), but I'd settle for a pair of drivers and any other of the components and accessories that they may have kicking around. At least then I'd have some kit to play with.
@creator, not that he ever reads these or replies, can't afford to send them out then would it be easier for some of the UK customers to visit London and collect theirs? Maybe the costs of promotional costs and parties were charged against Kickstarter donations leaving him short on capital? How much did Gordon Giltrap get paid?
I would just like to say that I backed this project in my first month of University. Since then I have graduated and started a career. Yet it appears he could not even contact a factory to make generic speakers to put his name on and send them out.
Lee, the video is in update 46. The exact quote is,
"We will repay your trust, or, if for whatever reason that proves to be impossible, we will repay your money."
I wouldn't get your hopes up though, David has told us so many other things that were clearly lacking in honesty that I'm filing this fun little video away in the same category. Even if he wanted to refund us there's nothing left in the kitty, all of our money has been spent on the development that was supposedly already done when the campaign launched.
Okay where is the video of David promising to refund the backers if he didn't send the speakers out. Also I noticed the video of Gordon Giltrap seems to have vanished, probably at the artists request when he realised there us no product.
From Jan 12 2017:
"We are currently completing the final version of the FS-X. We know we have damaged our reputation and we need to make amends. But this project will *not* run into a 3rd year."
Leaving aside the faulty maths since this project was due to deliver in July 2014 (2014!) so it was already in its 3rd year at that point, but we have just passed another important milestone. We are now in *August 2017*, and folks that now means we are into this campaign's *4th* year!
Since there have been no more updates in the 7 months since January, are we feeling this is now truly dead?
I am reposting below something I wrote and posted to the last update. just seemed possibly funny enough to post here too. By the way... every time we click on "communicate" with the Creator... it has to generate an email to David's account. I've been doing that a few times when I remember it: let's all do it and fill up his mailbox until he comes on here with an update and either somehow claim its still just around the corner or revealing its all dead. meanwhile for yucks:
I meant to take a photo of a guy who looked like David selling peanuts with a monkey on the street. He needs to earn enough this way so he can pay off a shipping fee for our speakers. He had to economize and so now the speakers will be housed in a special Mexican adobe recipe he learned while cleaning horse stables. I think the marketing angle is "we source our parts internally."
This and two other projects on kickstarter have made me stop backing projects... Thankfully this was a huge amount of money, since I only got one speaker, I was almost drawn in for a second speaker two years ago... but thankfully said no. This project, arist, agent smart watch and a few smaller projects have made me lose faith in kickstater. I have had 60+ successful projects, but the failures and stark robbery are troubling. At least Jide was upfront about the remix io and will offer refunds. This is a dead project and the creator cheated us.