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"1,083 backers pledged £84,768 to help bring this project to life."
No, 1,083 backers pledged £84,768 to help kickstarter and David Archer earn money scamming people.
Creator last logged in on 24 May 2017, so I would assume this is now well and truly dead.
Is this thing truly dead?
Hi All - think about it... the last update from Frankensteal back in January ended with the following, "We know we have damaged our reputation and we need to make amends. But this project will not run into a 3rd year."
Of course, he meant "will not run into a 4th year" (ah David Archer... my how slowly you must age). That 3rd year of delay ended in May 2017: so here we are in that 4th year of delay... David states that the project will not run into a 3rd (ahem 4th) year: and by letting us all F off as he has, he clearly is finally honoring his own BS. Namely that this project WILL NOT RUN into yet another year of delay because he has killed off this project.
So - How do we proceed with legal actions?
Thanks Marcus - I did NOT back Gigaboom. Too expensive, as well.
I would love it if someone found David Archer and did a "Man on the Street" interview of him.
@John H. Halpern
The Gigaboom speaker is at least to some parts bullshit. They seem to be claiming to defy fundamental laws of physics, but it's hard to tell, because the text is just incorrect (like wrong/missing units). Expect the delivered product to be vastly inferior to the promised one, if they ever deliver.
If someone runs down what to put, I'm guessing Kickstarter backers cannot claim?
I believe anyone can report a fraud against a UK company through action fraud and I recommend you do.
Maybe for Christmas David will issue his 2nd update of the year. Where are the Backers who defended him now?
I don't understand why kickstart don't do any thing against that fraud funding. we don't have any choice about that? is it right?
Is actionfraud are only for UK based pledger, or anyone around the word can join on this?
I would love to see David fulfill his promises of returning our money back, however small the chance might be.
I feel sorry for whoever pledged £1000 for the VIP pack.
@John. This campaign has taught me that I didn't properly understand the risks of electronic consumer good crowd funding campaigns so I steer clear of them now.
I'll join the reporting. What is the recommended plan here? Let's show David how to be organised...
@John: Crikey. That is definitely a speaker! Not sure about the "portable" aspect, though... "transportable", maybe! ;o)
@James @Adrian - There seems to be a few ways to report the issue on that site. What path did you choose? Fraud and Cyber Crime / Online scams or viruses? Probably better if everyone went the same way.
@John, To expensive for me but it might come in useful to have a speaker that you could use to beat a medium sized hippo to death.
what do people feel about the following new portable speaker project on KS:
By SOS PowerBank
Gigaboom & Macro.II - Hi-Def Speakers Built for the Wild
I have also reported a complaint on actionfraud, I urge people to do the same. We have video evidence of the suspect as well as previous addresses etc. We will get justice
@Gareth Evans and @Rob Vonk it very much is fraud, David continued to trade while insolvent for one. He also took pre-orders of speakers well after knowing he would never deliver them. Frankenspiel also took monies for cables and other add on when again he knew he was not shipping. I mentioned Actionfraud nearly two years ago when this was dead in the water, but i don't think backers wanted to believe it was actually over. he has definatly been fraudulent and we should all report it, but we should get a collective together first. If i am being honest, I like many others would have been happy with just a "i am sorry the project failed" but he didn't.
Not sure but the fraud was committed in the U.K. so I would presume so?
@Gareth that's a good idea. Is that also possible for the people outside the UK?
Seeing as it is now beyond doubt (if any was left) has anyone thought of perhaps reporting this via ActionFraud? Www.actionfraud.police.uk I'm certain there is likely some element of the fraud act that could be attributed to the actions of Frankespeil/Company directors in this matter. City of London police just jailed a guy for boiler room fraud after 9 complaints on action fraud. We could make hundreds?
If units of time were defined by David Archer's concept of "soon"...a thousand years would drift on by and still that would be soon! This ain't happening. Best group of Backers here to get ripped off by a creator.
still here, but not that hopefull
Hello? Anyone still here?
I don't expect I'll ever see my speakers (or get my money back), but I'd settle for a pair of drivers and any other of the components and accessories that they may have kicking around. At least then I'd have some kit to play with.
@creator, not that he ever reads these or replies, can't afford to send them out then would it be easier for some of the UK customers to visit London and collect theirs? Maybe the costs of promotional costs and parties were charged against Kickstarter donations leaving him short on capital? How much did Gordon Giltrap get paid?
I would just like to say that I backed this project in my first month of University. Since then I have graduated and started a career. Yet it appears he could not even contact a factory to make generic speakers to put his name on and send them out.
Lee, the video is in update 46. The exact quote is,
"We will repay your trust, or, if for whatever reason that proves to be impossible, we will repay your money."
I wouldn't get your hopes up though, David has told us so many other things that were clearly lacking in honesty that I'm filing this fun little video away in the same category. Even if he wanted to refund us there's nothing left in the kitty, all of our money has been spent on the development that was supposedly already done when the campaign launched.
Okay where is the video of David promising to refund the backers if he didn't send the speakers out. Also I noticed the video of Gordon Giltrap seems to have vanished, probably at the artists request when he realised there us no product.
From Jan 12 2017:
"We are currently completing the final version of the FS-X. We know we have damaged our reputation and we need to make amends. But this project will *not* run into a 3rd year."
Leaving aside the faulty maths since this project was due to deliver in July 2014 (2014!) so it was already in its 3rd year at that point, but we have just passed another important milestone. We are now in *August 2017*, and folks that now means we are into this campaign's *4th* year!
Since there have been no more updates in the 7 months since January, are we feeling this is now truly dead?
I am reposting below something I wrote and posted to the last update. just seemed possibly funny enough to post here too. By the way... every time we click on "communicate" with the Creator... it has to generate an email to David's account. I've been doing that a few times when I remember it: let's all do it and fill up his mailbox until he comes on here with an update and either somehow claim its still just around the corner or revealing its all dead. meanwhile for yucks:
I meant to take a photo of a guy who looked like David selling peanuts with a monkey on the street. He needs to earn enough this way so he can pay off a shipping fee for our speakers. He had to economize and so now the speakers will be housed in a special Mexican adobe recipe he learned while cleaning horse stables. I think the marketing angle is "we source our parts internally."
This and two other projects on kickstarter have made me stop backing projects... Thankfully this was a huge amount of money, since I only got one speaker, I was almost drawn in for a second speaker two years ago... but thankfully said no. This project, arist, agent smart watch and a few smaller projects have made me lose faith in kickstater. I have had 60+ successful projects, but the failures and stark robbery are troubling. At least Jide was upfront about the remix io and will offer refunds. This is a dead project and the creator cheated us.
As David spent all the money and has £6 left in the company, you have to ask, where did all the cash go, was it paid into his other company? Definitely not on the speakers they produced cheaply and refuse to send out.
I'm hoping to get mine in the next life. I am probably the unluckiest bastards around. I also backed another dud called the Momentum Smart Watch.
That's a total of $300 plus c-ash down the drain!
Thanks Kickstarter for nothing!
Those thieves already stole $300 MILLION from people, all the while completely ignoring the victims and (indirectly) assisting in those scams.
The main scammers can be found here: https://www.kickstarter.com/team
I'm sure with some light searching one can find their contact details, like facebook pages etc.
Raúl at Kickstarter is a lying scammer. A thief. I would be very happy to sue him and his lying scammer friends, and I wouldn't mind spending money on that. They are all scumbags, subhuman trash.
I hadn't reported it yet, I just reported it for not responding to backers.
Check the companies house webpage and look him up.
Yes you are right he won't be around for much longer.
Let me calculate that for you:
Successfully funded projects: 128.156
Total dollars pledged to Kickstarter projects:
Average per project:
128156 x 9% = 11534 x $24684 = $284.705.256
The fee for Kickstarter is 5% so that makes $284.705.256 x 5% = $14.235.262
They earnt more than 14 million dollars with providing a platform for scammers!
I sent an email to Support@Kickstarter.com and asked them to look into this project.
I asked them not to just send a stock reply and yeah you guessed it, got this stock reply.
It is clear to me that Kickstarter is 100% in this for the money and has no interest in anything the people giving them their money, have to say.
I have two overdue projects and once they have finally admitted they were ripping us off, I will never use Kickstarter again. I will be advising anyone I meet to keep well away from this platform.
Here's the stock reply is anyone wants a laugh (assuming this comment is not deleted):
Sorry to hear that the creator hasn’t responded to your concerns about this project. When creators go silent, we know that this can damage backers’ trust. We’ve reached out asking them to take time to respond to backers, as well as post an update on their progress so far. It’s important to remember, however, that each creator will approach their project differently, and issues may come up that delay the process.
We take feedback about project delays to heart. We commissioned an independent study and found that, while many Kickstarter projects do end up delayed, only 9% of projects on Kickstarter fail. Creators run projects on Kickstarter for ideas that they care deeply about. In cases where they run into roadblocks or are busy working on their projects, they might not be aware of the best ways to keep in touch with their community.
We do our best to try and help creators when they run into these situations. We set up a resource page of services to help with project completion, and try and communicate backer sentiment when we hear it from our community. Ultimately, creators are responsible for their own behavior — from communication and engagement to fulfillment. A big part of Kickstarter’s mission is to support creative freedom and independence; we don’t step into the actual creative process itself.
I’d encourage you to keep reaching out to the creator to ask for an update, and stress that even a short note that they’re still working on it would be preferable to silence. If you’ve already tried that and haven’t received a response through Kickstarter messaging, you might want to consider reaching out through other channels such as a creator’s own website, where available.
Thanks for being a thoughtful backer and part of the Kickstarter community. I hope you hear more from this creator soon.
Fraud + lies + irresponsibility = Frankenspiel FS-X: the Bluetooth speaker that can!
Something that to say on the part of the FRANKENSPIEL LIMITED PM?
I love my B&O Beoplay S3's stereo Bluetooth speakers! When the FS-X were announced, there wasn't anyone else doing stereo Bluetooth. Now many are, along with top-notch audiophile companies like B&O. I am no longer interested in the FS-X for home--I doubt they would be of quality that I would want for a home system. But I would like to get my money's worth and at least use them at my work desk or at home in my son's bedroom. We can only hope...
Also assuming there's nothing to be found out by visiting the adress given for David Archer, looks like a business park. Would be interesting if someone went to ask him what's going on. Considering the age might not be around for long either.
A nice pension increase scam?
Signed. Also sent a support request asking why they don't take a stand when this project clearly violates their two first rules. I don't expect them to reply in any way.
Signed - https://www.change.org/p/yvette-clarke-hold-kickstarter-accountable-for-project-creator-fraud-promoting-unvetted-projects…