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@All iOS users,
As much as we would like to add iOS7 support, it is simply not something that is in our control. We have tried very hard to make it clear "This is NOT an iOS 7 Controller, however it does connect and play using iCade." that is the facts. Also if you review the project we DID NOT include any iOS devices, also that is our ONLY FAQ. We are sorry for those who feel mislead that was never our intention.
Like @Migizi said we have the ability with switch modes, and we are the most versatile controller out there, however anyone who knows Apple knows that they love control over the products that they work with, and Open Source has NEVER been their game. Additionally, and frankly the larger issue, is that Apple has very rigid design guidelines that the current layout does not meet.
Evolution Controllers would love to adapt our design to be iOS7 (MFI) however at the present time it is a financial issue, while receiving an amazing response to our current project, all of these funds are strictly allocated to the steps required to fill the orders. To our iOS followers if you can rally the support we would gladly step up to the plate.
@Dragonbait Apple just released the iOS controller with iOS7. Believing that every game is going to have support for that out of gate is just letting yourself down. Drone is a controller that works with bluetooth, and has different modes. With any game it's up to the developer to code in support for controllers, whether it be gamepads or something specific like the iOS7 controller.
Saying that the Evo team is being disingenuous is you not understanding how device support works when making a game. At no point in time did they say that this controller was going to work with every game on every device. What they created is a controller that works with more games than any other controller because of its ability to change modes.
They also stated earlier that Apple won't allow them to put in the support for iOS7 controller because this is an open source product. Blame Apple at that point for shutting people out.
I am so pumped I found this. I have been needing a good controller for my android games as well as some of the new kickstarter games I have been pledging for for the PC. Cannot wait until Dec.
Unfortunately the complete lack of iOS support means I'm out.
I think it's rather disingenuous of you talking about iCade, most people will read that as supporting some games, where the reality is that iCade works on roughy 1 in every 2000 games on the store, almost all of which are retro arcade game titles.
If you release a version that will work with Apple devices I will back you in an instant!
whow, i woke up and less then 1K to go. Great advertising on the video add to the main page. luxury elegant packaging and sleek design of the controller.
@Alex I remember some talk about making an iOS7 controller but it would have to be a different model. Apply won't allow the changes required, to work as an iOS7 controller, in an open source product. So, if this does happen, it couldn't be added to the current controller. iCade is still an option at this point.
Could a stretch goal be compatibility to IOS7, or are you guys not planning on supporting IOS7?
A cool story that was done a few days ago:
@Nathan, there are videos out there of first generation Drone in action.
http://www.youtube.com/user/EvoControllers -- Their YouTube channel
I don't know if any of them specifically show keyboard/mouse mode on an Android tablet.
And looks like the Evo team beat me to the bunch heh.
@Nathan this is not exactly what you are looking for, you can visit our YouTube channel to view some videos. http://www.youtube.com/user/EvoControllers
We will work on getting some additional game play posted there soon.
Anyway we could get a demo of this working. I would like to see mouse mode on android. It would also be really great to see if being used to play a game. Thanks guys.
We are almost there!! My long wait for the right controller will be rewarded.
@Ryan James Curtis, Wow still waiting for your Impulse Controller. I got my Twin Metals and two other regular Black controllers at the same time about two months ago.... Twin Metal were from Kickstarter and the regular Black ones I pre-ordered them on their website after the Kickstarter campaign finished, they must be struggling to fill orders if they are that way behind schedule..... Good choice in getting one of these Drone Controllers!
so.... it looks great! Between my Galaxy S3, my Surface, and my home laptop, I can't wait to get my grippy little fingers on one! Can we pledge for multiples <4?
@Migizi Thanks for this info. For me quality goes above speed. So if they need some more time, take it. I'm now aiming for 200% funding for this project :)
@Peter I've already asked the Evo team if they feel their delivery dates will be impacted if they continue to trend into the $100k+ area. The ones with a delivery date of December should be solid. They know they create that many controllers by that time. The rest, I've been told, will be delivered as fast as they can get them made. So there is a chance that there will be a delay if they have a large order to place. I'm not too worried about it since they've already gone through this process with the previous generation controller. I'm assuming any issues they run into will be unforeseeable.
@Peter Yeah man their schedule was been awful to be honest ! But I shall still wait, but the Drone has got me more excited now to be honest !
@Ryan Still waiting for your impulse controller? Whow, you get your Drone probably earlier than your other controller. They are far off schedule. Lets hope Drone stays on schedule, especially for you.
Just backed ! Very excited ! Am still waiting for my Impulse Controller however that and the Drone are very different! This will be perfect for my phone and PC ! Keep it up Evolution !
@Jacob @Kho @David
Migizi is on track, the Gamepad mode is best bet for your Note II that is the mode that will allow the more advanced titles Gameloft, Vector Unit....(Not all titles, but they are expanding fast)
iPhone/ iPad will work with iCade games, however this IS NOT "controller support" announced in the iOS7 release. This controller will NOT be MFI, Apple would not allow an "Open Source" controller. We have discussed the idea of making a MFI version of the DRONE but for today we are focused on the current project. We are sorry to see you go @Jacob, but please share our project with your friends.
Will this controller be compatible with iOS 7 soon? I don't want to pull back my backing cause of this. :(
@David This controller uses bluetooth and should work with any device that accepts it. It also can start up in different modes. So you could tell it to use gamepad mode for your Galaxy Note II and iCade for you iPad. Not sure if it works with Apple TV, but in theory it should.
@Kho I don't think they could test every game on the market right now, but if those game support the iCade controls the controller should work fine.
I posted this below but if you go to http://www.evolutioncontrollers.com/startup-guide/ you'll see the different modes the controller has. So if the game allows remapping of keys, it will work, otherwise you'll have to see if the game supports one of the modes offered by the controller.
I've seen the games supported for iOS on your website. What about more mainstream games like FIFA and need for speed? Just wondering. Please correct me if it has been answered! Thank you.
I'm not a geek like you guys! Will this work with my galaxy note II , ipad2 and apple tv?
@Luis thanks for the answer! Very professional. Yes indeed start and select buttons have to reply on on-screen click;)
@Xiao Mu, as for the big differences with the Drone and Impulse controllers, you will be able to play certain emulators/games a lot more comfortably with the Drone. The Drone has the directional pad, 4 front facing buttons with the four shoulder buttons, and two joysticks total of 10 buttons and joysticks you can keymap. The Impulse only has the directional pad, four front facing buttons with two shoulder/back facing buttons for a total of 6 buttons you can keymap. So for example, the Impulse controller when keymapping the SNES controller you will have to leave out two buttons, so in my experience it sucks when I want to press "Start" to pause or press "Select" for menus in games and I have to use the on-screen buttons to do so. With the Drone it's not an issue as it has all the buttons and joysticks needed for SNES, N64, PSX, Mame, etc. The Drone also fits in your hands very nicely and looks like a regular game controller but more portable. The Impulse is small and is good for gaming on the go, but can be difficult to use if you have big hands.
@Kicker- Hopefully It Will Start, some of the best emulators I have used and recommend are Robert Broglia's ".emu" emulators for NES, SNES, Genesis, Sega CD, Neo Geo, Turbografix 16/PC Engine, Gameboy, Gameboy Advanced, MSX, Neo Geo Pocket Color, Atari 2600. Other emulators I recommend are aLynx for Atari Lynx, DosBox Turbo for DOS games, Drastic for NDS, ePSXe and FPse are tops for PSX emulation, Mamedroid for MAME, Mupen64 Plus AE or N64oid for N64, PPSSPP Gold for PSP, and can't forget the multi emulators like the open source Retroarch or SmartGear. there are more but these are some of the main ones I use.
@Blessed I've had no issues getting a hold of someone when I have questions. The controller is open source so I've taken it apart a few times to fix issues it had. The one I have had a sticky joystick so I pulled it apart and fixed the issue. Much easier than sending it in and waiting a few weeks for something. They have guides on their site about the internals. So unless your PCB fails, fixing anything yourself is probably the quickest and easiest.
After tinkering with it the construction seems pretty solid so I'm not worry about anything failing on me. I'm sure they could also sell parts through their store if there is enough demand for it.
@Kicker If you want an awesome Super NES emulator on Android we love SuperGNES. The stand at 33 seconds was a previous Kickstarter project and can be found here http://www.padpivot.com/.
What about after sales customer service? You will likely have backers living outside the States, what recourse do such backers have when it comes to repairs, warranty issues (does the product come with warranty?), replacements, etc.?
I was planning to buy a logitech wireless controller until I found this :D Instantly pledged!
Also can you display pictures of all the colour choices of the drones in full? I want to see them in front and back before i pick the colour(yeah aussie spelling for color, habits!).
Got one! Now I can game much easily on my phone!
Does anyone know any good NES emulator on android? (which allows key mapping)
Also, does anyone know what phone stand is used in the intro video (@33 sec time)?
I just received my impulse controller two days ago. I ordered it from their online store rather than KS.
I wonder the differences between drone and impulse controller. You can search it on KS. Their project has ended for one year. But your answer will help me to sort out all things I want to know. (I just figure out what that thing can do, but for drone still feel confused a little bit)
Thanks for the kind words, and continued support.
The new DRONE will have the ability to boot into "gamepad" mode that uses Xinput....so YES you can have a Xbox like profile on your new DRONE. wink, wink, :)
I was one of the original backers to the original Drone Controller, even though it wasn't funded, I pre-ordered one through their website as soon as they announced the pre-order. I then received my controller and had some issues with one of the joysticks and not charging issues. Their customer service was awesome and getting it fixed was quick and easy. I then got a working controller back and it has been one of the best Bluetooth gaming controllers I currently own. I mainly use it for my Android phones and PC and it works perfect. I already pledged for two and I highly recommend this controller to anyone, it one of the best! Keep up the good work Drone team! Oh, would it be possible to have like an Xbox 360 bluetooth profile for PC's? Wink, wink, hahahaha, that would be so awesome!
This looks like a great product, and am pleased that you have received such quick funding. Also, thank you so much for supporting Ouya!
no stickers +1
@Jeffrey If you look at the startup guide, here http://www.evolutioncontrollers.com/startup-guide/, you'll see that they list the startup modes. If they offer a sticker with it, that's fine. I'm not a fan of putting the sticker on the controller.
1. The controller modes can be redone if you modify the firmware. It's open source so others can create firmware images for you to use.
2. Stickers will eventually wear off as you use the controller and then just leave a residue to deal with.
3. There is nothing that stops the Evo team from updating their firmware and changing/improving the modes. This would make the sticker moot if you update your controller.
Those are my opinions.
I have the original and never remember the game boot modes. What about an optional sticker to place on the underside that summarizes the boot load instructions?
I have the original and if they found ways to improve it, then this will be the best controller I've used. I bought this to play games on my Android tablet and my Linux laptop. Works great and I highly recommend it.
An OG adopter when it was called Smart Controller, really glad to see you having taken this time for continued RnD and that your back in the game (groan, sorry) again. How come the original adopters will get thiers after evryobe else
Blessed & Giovanni,
If Keyboard / Mouse mode doesn't meet your needs, boot into "gamepad" mode and DRONE will use Xinput.
I also have the same concern as Blessed, my biggest fear is the compatability of the Drone.
Hmm what about if a game supports controllers? Will the Drone work 100%? My big reason for getting the Drone is there are games out there that plays better on a controller compared to with a mouse & keyboard. I would have to get a controller, then check if it actually is compatible with that game, etc. Can turn out to be a waste of time and money. Will the Drone skip over that? If a game supports a controller, no matter which model, the Drone can replace it 100%?
Needless to say we have not tested on EVERY game out there, however the DRONE can boot into a "keyboard / Mouse" mode that acts and responds EXACTLY like a keyboard and mouse.
A good rule of thumb is if the game allows button mapping then it will work.
Hopefully this gets funded, I honestly think it would be a true shame if it didn't. There are too many good products that just don't make it in this day and age, reeally hope this one does.
This is an universal controller? Like the game Spleunky, according to some gamers it is picky about the controller it uses. I assume the Drone is 100% compatible with all PC games in the past, now and in the near future?
OSX is a little different, you can boot into Keyboard/Mouse mode on the DRONE and you're good to play.
D-pad will output W,A,S,D joystick will be a mouse, just like a Keyboard/Mouse ;)
Thought so. Just had to confirm! I assume the same goes with Mac OSX?
Fred (and everyone)
The DRONE will connect and play games via the iCade protocols, however IT IS NOT AN iOS7 Controller.
First of all congratulations on relaunch. I have a question that may be quite obvious. Is this controller compatible with iPhones/IOS/Mac OS? Basically a dumb Apple fan boy checking in here =p