About this project
The 3rd Person View camera mount will be available here after the campaign ends.
Mayor Update: New DSLR compatibility!
Wow in just 2 weeks our project is funded; THANK YOU ALL!
We have been featured in blogs all over the world and have even been on the radio to talk about this project.
There has just been one question that keeps getting asked: "Can this system work with a DSLR camera?"
Well now it can!
check out the video to see the new features...
We have made 2 adapters that will enable you to mount any camera (up to ±1,5 kg) at any angle:
THE MINI BALL HEAD: this ball head can be mounted on the 2nd pole section of the camera mount and can connect to any compact camera with a 3/4 screw. This setup will enable you to mount your compact or action cam at any angle you like. (If you want to add the mini ball head to your pledge please add 25 pounds, when the KS project is finished we will do a questionnaire to make sure you get everything just as you want it)
THE LARGE BALL HEAD ADAPTOR is for heavier DSLR camera's (up to 1,5 kg). With this adapter you can connect any ball head on the market. We have been working with the Joby SLR-zoom and the Manfrotto 492 and 494) The adaptor has a 1/4 inch and 3/8 screw to connect to the ball head and can be clamped rigidly to the 2nd pole section. (ball head not included).
This setup is not recommended for action sports but will enable you to make interview shots over the shoulder (while on the move) or film yourself from the front while walking around (Snorricam). (If you want to add the large ball head adapter to your pledge please add 20 pounds, when the KS project is finished we will do a questionnaire to make sure you get everything just as you want it)
In film you can also see the new and improved heavy duty connector (this has been developed after feedback from our testers) to improve strength and stability.
And finally the system now has a quick release cord that can be operated even with gloves to make disconnecting the pole even easier.
Hi, and thanks for checking out this project.
I’m Thijs, film producer and sports innovator from the Netherlands. After having worked on film commercials for the past 25 years it was time for a change; so 2 years ago I started SailVideoSystem.
SailVideoSystem is all about action sports and how to best experience and share them. As an enthusiastic kitesurfer I have always been looking for ways to film and share the feeling you get out on the water. To do this I used all sorts of camera mounts, but they mostly showed what I was seeing not what I was doing.
Till I made the first prototype of the ‘3rd Person View’ camera mount, a camera mount that puts you in the picture.
My goal was to create the world’s first body-worn camera mount that is so versatile that you can get any shot in any sport and still be compact, lightweight and stable. Meet the ‘3rd Person View’ camera mount.
The ‘3rd Person View’ camera mount consists of 3 elements:
- The curved carbon sandwich backplate that is worn with a waterproof adjustable sports belt.
- Fully adjustable camera pole.
- The unique locking/release mechanism.
To create a lightweight and stable camera mount we used only high-grade materials such as a special sandwich carbon (that we developed with Catamaranparts.nl, a well known specialist in composite materials), ultra thin alloy tubing and stainless steel nuts and bolts. The whole system weighs under 950 grams and can be taken apart in a couple op seconds with no element longer than 50 cm so that it will easily fit in your backpack when you are done filming.
What shots can you make with this camera mount?
The system can be set up to create any shot you want: from the back, over the shoulder, from the side and even from the front. And all of this in just a few seconds. And you can even use it as a handheld polecam. Check out the video of one of out Beta-testers: Abe Kislevitz.
Small Update: Even testers from the Netherlands have given the system a run for the money: check out what our youngest tester Josse Wester shot last week in Austria in this video.
We have tested the camera mount with the GoPro HERO2 and 3, and the cool thing is that with the WiFi app you can see and adjust the framing of the shot. But this system will work with any actioncam that can be fitted to a 25 mm pole.
What is the right camera mount for you?
There are 2 versions of the ‘3rd Person View' camera mount’: the kite/windsurf version and the ski/skate version. The ski/skate version is described above and based on the curved carbon backplate with the adjustable sports belt.
This version is not just for skiing or skating but can be used in all sports; we even gave it a test run in the swimming pool and on a motorcycle.
The kite/windsurf version uses the same principle but has a flat carbon baseplate that can be mounted to most kite/windsurf harnesses.
After spending the last 5 months on prototyping and testing we are now ready to go into production, and this is where you come in.
With your support we can set up a production line that will enable us to manufacture the camera mount in larger quantities with precision CNC cutting and a bombproof quality finish. The backplates are laminated from a carbon composite over an large alloy mold and then baked for several hours. This mold is expensive (as it needs to be long and precisely manufactured). Also to anodize all the alloy parts we need a large quantity to make this cost-effective. However the result will be spectacular.
What camera can I use?
You can use any action camera that you like, we have been using the GoPro Hero 2 and 3 that we attached with the GoPro seat-post clamp. Because there are so many action camera's on the market that each have their own way of mounting to poles, we decided to deliver the '3rd Person View' camera mount WITHOUT these clamps, so you can use the clamp that works best for your camera.
For our first backers we will have a small batch of handcrafted camera mounts that will be shipped on the day the Kickstarter project is successfully funded. Check out the rewards and help us realize this project.
I can’t wait to see you in action in your next video!
Thanks for watching.
More info on pricing
Why are the prices in the EU higher than in the rest of the world? Well every country has its own rules on taxes. In the Netherlands we need to add 21% VAT on every product sold to a consumer (and if you ship within the EU we need to include this VAT in the price). However if you live outside the EU (e.g. the USA) we don’t need to add these taxes (you might be liable for local taxes and import duties, but that depends on local customs). Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about this…
Risks and challenges
Creating a new product that consists of many high-tech elements is not to be taken lightly. We have tested many prototypes and a lot of different materials to get this far.
However there is always a chance that in the extensive testing we are doing right now small flaws, or elements that need to be improved will arise.
This has happened to us while one of our testers, Abe Kislevitz (mechanical engineer and Sr production artist @ GoPro) was testing the camera mount with the UCS (University of Southern California) ski-team in Whistler.
He was supplied with a camera mount with 2 styles of poles for testing,
After several days of testing we got this message:”…(we broke both of them, unfortunately) - don't think it's a flaw with the system, they broke when Matt did a 900 off a 20 foot cliff and landed on his back. Same with Chris but a 360 and flipped forward on the landing snapping it. They both snapped in the same place - the narrowest part on the whole thing…”
Obviously at some point things will brake! But we used this feedback to improve and strengthen the part that broke, the version now on Kickstarter is equipped with the new system.
But producing 10 prototypes or manufacturing 500 is a different thing,
That is why we have been talking to leading suppliers and manufacturers in their specific field of expertise, to make sure they have the capability and recourses to guaranty the quality we are looking for (within our timeframe).
Right now we feel confident with our suppliers (and the backup companies that we have selected) that we can do a successful Kickstarter campaign and deliver a high quality product that meets up to the expectation.
The only thing that has me worried is that the whole campaign will be too successful: If more than 2000 pledge, it will be hard for us to meet our deadlines with the current setup we have in mind. This will mean that we need to upscale our production, which might result in some delay on delivery as scheduled now. But even if it might take a bit longer, we have the resources and knowhow to set this up and deliver the best camera mount out there!Learn about accountability on Kickstarter
Well that all depends of what you where doing before you fell!
This camera mount is developed to enable you to shoot film and pictures of you in action,
but obviously when you are doing dangerous stuff, this will not protect you, but it wont make stuff more dangerous.
We have learned from our testers that at some point things will break (and rather a piece of the construction (that can be replaced) than your back) and the god thing is that the belt and carbon baseplate will protect you against the broken part.
One of our testers (Abe Kislevitz gave us this feedback from one of the test runs: " ...(we broke both of them, unfortunately) - don't think it's a flaw with the system, they broke when Matt did a 900 off a 20 foot cliff and landed on his back. Same with chris but a 360 and flipped forward on the landing snapping it.")
So how did we handle this? Well we strengthend the system to take these small setbacks, and have made sure that we have spare parts to replace the once that broke under extreme duress.
In the end when things go wrong, something will break, and rather something replaceable than your body.
No obviously the principle of a third person view has been around since the first action games.
And Yes there have been solutions to realize this sort of shot; such as: the Backy Mount http://www.camforpro.com/Backy-Mount-white_detail_567_240.html
But will this system work when you are not windsurfing, and don't have a spare harness to bolt it on?
The '3rd Person View' camera mount takes this to a completely new level:
* You can detach the pole when you are done filming
* You can place the camera pole in any angle that will get the shot you want
* You can take the pole of when you are going into a ski lift ( and keep the belt in place for your next run)
* You can easily disconnect the pole to shoot yourself polecam style
* You can pack the complete system in your backpack when you are done filming, and go on as if nothing happened ;-)
Well, are looking into this right now.
In the updates section there are a few pics of the first tests. For this test we used a Panasonic GH2 with a 14-140mm lens, total weight 950 grams) and that seamed pretty stable.
But in a week I will know if we will be doing a DSLR adaption to the camera mount...
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