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      Creator Luke Martinez on March 30

      Good for her. I'm glad she's speaking out on an important subject. I'm bummed that she used this project to build a resume to get her onto stages, though. I wonder if her dedication to ethics will ever be extended to people who gave her money for this game.

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      Creator Savage Robby on January 31

      I don't think the Sampats set out to scam anyone. I think Michael is right, and it was a simple case of mismanagement.

      I think what they have done since, though, has pushed them from mismanagement to fraud. There have been repeated communications that "things are shipping" when in reality they haven't. They refuse to update the status of this project. There is no accountability. In my estimation, this is why class them as crooks. They took money, promised something in return, and haven't delivered.

      So, while the intentions may have been good, the execution has been awful. Repeatedly. Consistently. Heck - they logged into Kicstarter yesterday. WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY? You realize they only time they've posted recently is a) right before Elizabeth was supposed to speak at a con, and b) when she got work with Cortex+. Funny, isn't it?

      Character is defined by what you do when adversity strikes. They've shown none.

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      Creator Luke Martinez on January 31

      I think it is hard to same "they aren't trying to scam anyone" when they repeatedly say they are shipping and don't. That sounds like the definition of a scam.

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      Creator Michael Ostrokol on January 28

      Here's the thing: even after all this time, I don't think the Sampats actively set out to scam anyone. Instead, I'm operating on the assumption that this project was a victim of its own success and of poor project management. If i had to guess, I'd say that international shipping (which they only charged a $3 premium for, remember) and the "durable" stretch goals ate through their operating capital raised by this KS.

      And like a lot of people, once things started going wrong, it became more and more difficult to own up to their mistakes - hence the long stretches of radio silence, the stonewalling, etc. This doesn't make them thieves or conmen; just human. However, with three months since their last update and reports of people still missing books, Shreyas and/or Elizabeth need to stand up and give us a fair accounting of what they've accomplished, goals still left to reach, and a hard and fast plan to bring this project home.

      At the very least, I think we're owed a fair accounting of how many books were actually shipped (and when), as well as an honest explanation for the delays. If they ran out of money or whatever, that's fine. We just need to know about it so we can set our expectations accordingly.

      Shreyas, Elizabeth - if you're reading this, please just work with us. We want to see this KS closed out as badly as you guys do.

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      Creator Savage Robby on January 23

      Checking in on the failures (just checked on Anvils and Axes, too) ....

      Yup, still a failure.

      Yup, the Sampats are still crooks.

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      Creator João Mariano on January 20

      I still haven't got mine. Damn, have two years gone by already? :(

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      Creator Brett Easterbrook on December 23

      still waiting..

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      Creator Michael Ostrokol on December 22

      Shreyas - It's been a couple of months since your last update. How's the fulfillment process coming along?

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      Creator Mathieu Perreault-Dorion on December 18

      I still want to know what's happening with the hardcover copies of the books. Worse comes to worse, I would be willing to accept a "normal" copy of the game, but alas, all my messages have gone unanswered so far...

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      Creator Andrew Robertson on December 11

      Two years.

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      Creator Michael Ostrokol on December 11

      FYI, the Walking Eye podcast recently reviewed They Became Flesh after playing through a short campaign.

      http://www.thewalkingeye.com/…

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      Creator Savage Robby on November 17

      Yup, that's what I thought.

      Fraud.

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      Creator Savage Robby on November 14

      Three weeks ago Shreyas claimed he had a shipment ready to go out. Allegedly. Again.

      Anyone actually seen anything from that yet?

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      Creator Savage Robby on October 5, 2013

      Is she running on a panel on "How to lie to and steal from your customers without any consequences?" Maybe co-panel it with Mike Nystul?

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      Creator Eric Franklin on September 23, 2013

      Elizabeth will be a Special Industry Guest at Metatopia in New Jersey from 10/31-11/3.

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      Creator Luke Martinez on September 5, 2013

      We received an update. At this point, that is good progress and I hope it represents an honest attempt to wrap this whole thing up.

      In other news, Elizabeth posted an impressive defense in regards to an ongoing internet controversy and is getting a lot of (unfair) shit over it, and I appreciate this update in the midst of that drama. Best of luck, and I hope this project gets finished to everyone's satisfaction.

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      Creator João Mariano on September 4, 2013

      I still haven't received my copy of the book and set of dice here in Portugal. What about you guys?

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      Creator Savage Robby on August 31, 2013

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      Creator Torolf - Alchemist of the Obsidian Order on August 31, 2013

      Well, if her tweet about 'poison' was aimed at backers from this project, then I have this to say.

      I once worked night shift on a hospital floor that (like most) were short-staffed and used agency nurses to cover shifts. One particular agency nurse consistently signed up for the Friday into Saturday overnight shift and called in last moment every time. This went on for months (why, I don't know). Eventually the other nurses started asking if she was going to show up for the overnight shift, because they were tired of being stuck doing an unscheduled double shift or at least wanted to be able to plan for it. The agency nurse took offense at this and eventually stopped working on the unit, claiming a "hostile work environment."

      Was there a hostile work environment? Maybe, if so, she created and she had the power to reverse it.

      And I still have received no physical product or answer to my queries. (Backed at the Virtue level, with extra for extra dice and stuff.)

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      Creator Brian Peters on August 20, 2013

      Oh, of course she didn't have her own booth. I never imagined she did, but just attending the con probably costs a couple hundred dollars, easily, right? I'm just saying if she's got that money, maybe it should be going toward the cost of another print run, or for refunds for those that have requested such.

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      Creator Andrew Munn on August 20, 2013

      I own a game store and had backed at the $75 level and even talked to her at the begining to say i might stock their product - but haven't received anything - and at the moment wont be stocking anything they are involved in!!!

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      Creator Michael Ostrokol on August 20, 2013

      I can't speak for everyone, but I appreciate you giving it a try, at least. Even if you weren't able to speak with Elizabeth, at least she hopefully knows that there's still interest.

      And for the record, I don't really bear the Sampats any ill will. I don't think they set out to deceive anyone. This project just likely got away from them, and - well - it's human nature to avoid painful situations, especially in our hobbies. At this point, I think it's more idle curiosity on my part. I've gone on to grab a retail copy from a FLGS, so I have TBF on my shelf, even if I never see it in the format I backed. I'd just like to know exactly what happened -- where things went off the rails, if you will.

      Even if that comes in the form of a final post-mortem post, it's better than nothing.

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      Creator Luke Martinez on August 20, 2013

      I went by the booth probably twice each day, and she wasn't there when I was. So I didn't get to ask anything. As Matt says, it was a shared booth - one she wasn't even manning full time. TBF was on sale at two different booths I saw, but I did not see it at her booth, for what it's worth.

      I agree that it'd be nice to see where they stand now, but it might be hard because many have just given it up and moved on. This, though, is the reason Elizabeth should give the backers the minor courtesy of an explanation/update. Even if it was "No more stuff, we're done, deal with it" that is preferable to leaving so many twisting in the wind.

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      Creator Matthew McFarland on August 18, 2013

      They didn't have their own booth. They shared booth space with some other folks, and I have no idea about the particulars of the arrangement.

      On the subject of them owing rewards to "so many backers," are there any numbers on that? I only ask because I know that at least *some* people have gotten their rewards, and it would be informative, I think, to know how close or how far from completion this really is.

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      Creator Brian Peters on August 16, 2013

      Attending (and having a booth at) Gen Con is *not cheap* though. I really wonder how they justify doing so when that money ought to be going toward fulfilling rewards owed to so many backers.

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      Creator João Flávio G. Falaschi on August 15, 2013

      Just making fun guys... relax.

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      Creator Michael Ostrokol on August 14, 2013

      Yeah, no. I'm frustrated as well, but threats (no matter how they're veiled) is Not Cool. Let's keep things civil, okay? Nothing productive will come from asking someone if they feel safe at a convention.

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      Creator Luke Martinez on August 14, 2013

      Yeah, not asking those, sorry. Especially not 8, which is a little scary sounding.

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      Creator João Flávio G. Falaschi on August 14, 2013

      5. Did you turn all the money into chocolate bars and ate them?
      6. Why do you keep backing other projects when you didn't even delivered yours?
      7. Do you feel safe here in Indianapolis when you know some of your backers are here?

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      Creator Luke Martinez on August 13, 2013

      For anyone else going to GenCon, Elizabeth will be at booth 1956.

      I will be approaching her there to have a civil discussion and bring answers back to you all; my questions will be as follows:

      1. Where are the remaining unfulfilled rewards?
      2. Will shirts/extras be made or delivered?
      3. What is the status of refunds?
      4. Are you planning on making any substantive announcement or posting any answers on the kickstarter?

      I'm not personally interested in getting into anything beyond that. I'm not really interested into getting into any kind of recriminations or arguments about intent or all that other stuff. I figure it is best to focus on concrete things that can be brought back to the rest of the backers. Feel free to post any other questions you might want me to ask, but keep this stuff in mind.

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      Creator Mathieu Perreault-Dorion on August 13, 2013

      Any update on the Dominion level?

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      Creator Luke Martinez on August 7, 2013

      Alternatively, if she posts an update here before GenCon explaining the situation and apologizing and whatnot, I would gladly forgo engaging her at GenCon. Any answer will do, but people deserve it.

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      Creator Luke Martinez on August 7, 2013

      I only said video so I would have something to show everyone else. But yes, I don't want to make a scene or anything - I just want to hear the answers so I can share them back to anyone else here.

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      Creator Matthew McFarland on August 7, 2013

      Emphasis on calm and rational, please. I personally would advise against the video camera; this isn't Hard Copy, yeah?

      But talking to her at GenCon? I think that's perfectly fair. Folks deserve some answers. Let's just try and remember to be human beings about it.

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      Creator Luke Martinez on August 7, 2013

      Also, so everyone knows, we are all unfair and mean jerks to her and are mistreating her. She tweeted this a while back:

      "I turn down helping friends on projects I care about because I don't want the poison I get to be spread around. This is the way things go."

      I intend to speak to her in a calm, rational manner about this whole matter. I just want some straight answers, so she understands why there is so much "poison" going around about her.

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      Creator Luke Martinez on August 7, 2013

      I've been away a bit, but since I am going to GenCon, I am going to ask her about this. And I encourage everyone else there who backed this project to do the same. I may even see if I can try to get it on video, so she has to answer questions about it.

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      Creator Andrew Robertson on August 5, 2013

      I don't want to order another copy. I've paid for a copy. I've paid for *two* copies. I want to know if they exist, and why they aren't in my possession.

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      Creator Michael Ostrokol on August 5, 2013

      For what it's worth, I finally just ordered a copy from Noble Knight Games. It's not the deluxe, hand-illuminated leatherbound hardcover I backed for, but it's better than nothing.

      It's just a shame I had to order the book via a retailer in order to get it in print.

      I don't know if the Sampats are going to be attending GenCon in a couple of weeks, but if they are, perhaps someone could -- politely -- ask them where things went wrong with this project. I'd love to see a postmortem in Elizabeth or Shreyas' own words.

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      Creator Andrew Robertson on August 3, 2013

      We're now past 600 days since funding completed. I want to know the answers to just a handful of questions. Were all the books printed? Were the dice ever created? Have all the books been shipped? Why the delay? Is the game going to be sold at Gencon 2013? Why aren't the creators talking to the backers?

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      Creator João Flávio G. Falaschi on August 2, 2013

      The funny thing is that Mrs Sampat keeps backing other projects... with your money!!! I won't say that's with my money because I got the books... but it's the money that was suppose to pay for hoodies and dice and harcover books. Shame on you Sampats!!!

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      Creator Wendy on July 31, 2013

      It's been a while since I looked back here. As a principality backer I waited for a long time to get my perks. I ended up contacting both founders of this campaign on Facebook, Twitter and Google+, as well as here and kept asking questions. I guess that payed off for me, as I did receive my books last year. I now see I might have been one of the few of my backing level however.

      I'm sorry to see that so many of you are still waiting for your perks. Even the people that backed at Seraphim level o.O - I hope you eventually get what you backed for. I for one will never again back one of Elizabeth's or Shreyas' campaigns.

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      Creator Rocha on July 7, 2013

      No physical goods here and no anwser at all... :(

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      Creator Kelly Cline on June 25, 2013

      I hate to ask, but I have never received the set of 15 dice or the hoodie. Is there any update on these items?

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      Creator Aletha on June 23, 2013

      The F icon must surely mean Fail. This has been the biggest Kickstarter Failure I've unfortunately been a part of. :(

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      Creator Torolf - Alchemist of the Obsidian Order on June 18, 2013

      Here we have an example of Elizabeth asking another project creator about stuff that's only 8 months overdue, yet listed for sale on the website on June 13th.

      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/733004636/alphanatomy/comments…

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      Creator Michael Ostrokol on June 16, 2013

      I know I'm jumping the gun a bit, but I'd just like to mark the occasion. We're now *three* months since the last update about the hardcover books, or really any update of substance. I see that the Sampats have logged into their account within the last few weeks... Shame they didn't have anything to share with us.

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      Creator Torolf - Alchemist of the Obsidian Order on June 15, 2013

      No, Quantum RPG at least communicates with its backers; doesn't give them the cold shoulder. Speaking of:

      It's now been five months and a day since I was told 'refund incoming,' and have not received any physical product, refund, or communication from the project creators.

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      Creator João Flávio G. Falaschi on June 13, 2013

      Worst KS ever!!! Maybe Quantum RPG is tied with this one.... I come here sometimes just to check whether anything was delivered... Sadly it's always the same.

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